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Class action lawsuits are commencing against Polarity.
thosr who dream about sunogel...seabs told me that sunogel still not tested on humans....
if it would have tested and worked on humans than its worth waiting for that
but till now its still not tested on human(that finger cut shown was a too small deep to prove sunogel efficiancy of regenration maybe that wound have healed that way normally)
5 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Class action lawsuits are commencing against Polarity.
If it sounds too good to be true then it most likely is! That saying never loses it's value.
12 hours ago, Anish004 said:thosr who dream about sunogel...seabs told me that sunogel still not tested on humans....
if it would have tested and worked on humans than its worth waiting for that
but till now its still not tested on human(that finger cut shown was a too small deep to prove sunogel efficiancy of regenration maybe that wound have healed that way normally)
Tell me more about pirfenidone. Apparently it's good on scars. I wasn't able to find before and after photos.
5 hours ago, ScarRight said:11 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:Class action lawsuits are commencing against Polarity.
If it sounds too good to be true then it most likely is! That saying never loses it's value.
The thing is SkinTE didn't even sound good.
I have no idea how some believed such crappy procedure and product was useful for aesthetic improvement and let obvious mental trolls keep telling them what they see and hear arent true, and even magical unknown derivatives that noones seen anything about willsoon roll out!
It was clearly bogus hope as soon as the first picture came out and I got the unanimously negative clues from their actual doctors, in stark contrast with Polaritys promises and totally bullshittingmarketing.
And if they could get away with showing the slightest improvement on appearance of scars, they would have done at least one trial case on common scars beside just cases in acute need of skin graft. Why not use it on a patient with fresh gaping wound that doesn't need skin filler yet can see a better looking resultthan natural scar?Still people wanted to believe that their disastrous results would look fine after a year?
Now Sunogel and theFS2 drug are somethings that sound too good to be true, but there isn't much marketing hype about them either. How do we get updates about the FS2 phase 2 clinical trials?
51 minutes ago, surgical scar said:The thing is SkinTE didn't even sound good.
I have no idea how some believed such crappy procedure and product was useful for aesthetic improvement and let obvious mental trolls keep telling them what they see and hear arent true, and even magical unknown derivatives that noones seen anything about willsoon roll out!It was clearly bogus hope as soon as the first picture came out and I got the unanimously negative clues from their actual doctors, in stark contrast with Polaritys promises and totally bullshittingmarketing.
And if they could get away with showing the slightest improvement on appearance of scars, they would have done at least one trial case on common scars beside just cases in acute need of skin graft. Why not use it on a patient with fresh gaping wound that doesn't need skin filler yet can see a better looking resultthan natural scar?Still people wanted to believe that their disastrous results would look fine after a year?
Now Sunogel and theFS2 drug are somethings that sound too good to be true, but there isn't much marketing hype about them either. How do we get updates about the FS2 phase 2 clinical trials?
FS2 seems legit but is not scarless. The makers of the drug don't claim scarless healing. Phase 1 trials were conducted however we don't know the outcome of the study. The study was conducted. See link below.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02340325
They are in phase 2 now. Phase 1 was started in 2015. We are in 2018 and phase 2 has only begun.
FS2 breaks down scar tissue. It does not completely eliminate it. My guess is the product will be good for hypertrophic or keloid scarring. They do say it prevents scarring in fresh wounds. My guess is that if this works, it is the same principle as Sunogel.
With all their allegations of fraud, it seems PolarityTE isn't doing too well and also many
and me have pointed out, their pictures have mixed results. Some healed well, most didn't but the
injuries treated were very severe.
Sunogel also claims scarless healing in porcine models and it says it can be used to treat
existing scars. I think that is our next best hope for now.
Presentation:
36 minutes ago, MyBeautifulScars said:FS2 seems legit but is not scarless. The makers of the drug don't claim scarless healing. Phase 1 trials were conducted however we don't know the outcome of the study. The study was conducted. See link below.https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02340325
They are in phase 2 now. Phase 1 was started in 2015. We are in 2018 and phase 2 has only begun.
FS2 breaks down scar tissue. It does not completely eliminate it. My guess is the product will be good for hypertrophic or keloid scarring. They do say it prevents scarring in fresh wounds. My guess is that if this works, it is the same principle as Sunogel.
Thanks. I would try anything as long as it offers any improvement without the risk of more harm unlike SkinTE that would make things look worse and create an additional scar.
SkinTE never sounded good, never looked good, never smelled good
https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/secret/dTTcCrt5We0Mek
This is a good read regarding SkinTE patent rejection.
Basically, it was a rip-off crap version of other cell re-distributing ideas, which fortunately couldn™t fool anyone into giving them patent for.
The SkinTE goo can™t even get applied on a wound or penetrate into it. It™s not liquid that you can inject into a closed wound or subcision. You need to create room and leave the wound open for the goo filler which turns into a messed-up bumpy jerky patch with obvious margins. Stupid. If it was a thin solution of just cells at least it could smoothly get sprayed onto the wound after it™s properly closed, then some of the cells might stick on the surface of the incision and penetrate inside.
If I were going to harvest cells why would I waste them in a messy goo? They claimed their crappy goo was going to prevent scarring by eliminating contraction and creating an environment for hair re-growth. Now the excuse is that the damage was too much?? They promised full regeneration of all layers with appendages! It doesn™t f**king matter! It results in an ugly mess as the doctor I consulted with told me.
Here we had the asinine jokes of possible 80% 60% 50% improvements! Even more with repeated procedure! LOL 
I would pay for 10% or even 5% detectable improvement. I have wasted money for lasers that made zero change. If SkinTE could offer 50% improvement I would have been sitting at their headquarters with $$$ until I got their potion 
You™re better off saving yourself the pointless extra incision, and just use your plasma to aid with healing. I met a surgeon that said he extracts cells from patients' blood plasma and in the end she sprays/injects the cells onto the stitched incision and it heals well. No patent or product marking needed. Just common sense.
Makes me wonder why they don™t just use the patient™s blood to harvest cells in these supposed scar treatments to aid healing instead of pretending they™re growing scarless skin matching properties of the surroundings? I think they could care less about minimizing damage to their guinea pigs and just want to make presentations for their products.
I believe what you speak of is PRP.
1 hour ago, surgical scar said:Basically, it was a rip-off crap version of other cell re-distributing ideas, which fortunately couldn™t fool anyone into giving them patent for.
The SkinTE goo can™t even get applied on a wound or penetrate into it. It™s not liquid that you can inject into a closed wound or subcision. You need to create room and leave the wound open for the goo filler which turns into a messed-up bumpy jerky patch with obvious margins. Stupid. If it was a thin solution of just cells at least it could smoothly get sprayed onto the wound after it™s properly closed, then some of the cells might stick on the surface of the incision and penetrate inside.
If I were going to harvest cells why would I waste them in a messy goo? They claimed their crappy goo was going to prevent scarring by eliminating contraction and creating an environment for hair re-growth. Now the excuse is that the damage was too much?? They promised full regeneration of all layers with appendages! It doesn™t f**king matter! It results in an ugly mess as the doctor I consulted with told me.Here we had the asinine jokes of possible 80% 60% 50% improvements! Even more with repeated procedure! LOL
You™re better off saving yourself the pointless extra incision, and just use your plasma to aid with healing. I met a surgeon that said he extracts cells from patients' blood plasma and in the end she sprays/injects the cells onto the stitched incision and it heals well. No patent or product marking needed. Just common sense.
Makes me wonder why they don™t just use the patient™s blood to harvest cells in these supposed scar treatments to aid healing instead of pretending they™re growing scarless skin matching properties of the surroundings? I think they could care less about minimizing damage to their guinea pigs and just want to make presentations for their products.
I believe what you speak of is PRP.
19 minutes ago, Anish004 said:rudy keep our hopes alive on sunogel....i think its hard..but dr sun said he want to release his product asap because the more the product keep unreleased the have to expend more money......
Dont you get it? If someone like Denver Lough who had shown his name in public would do something fraudulent like this...
then we dont know what kind of scientist will be truthful
35 minutes ago, rudy1986 said:Dont you get it? If someone like Denver Lough who had shown his name in public would do something fraudulent like this...
then we dont know what kind of scientist will be truthful
dont call Denver lough fraud some of skinTe pics are good.....lets see what happen
isnt this possible we could do something ourself ???
40 minutes ago, Anish004 said:dont call Denver lough fraud some of skinTe pics are good.....lets see what happen
None of them were good at all, and what might look kinda ok to you may be the resolution, low contrast, and the patient's inherent healing ability and luck making it less horrible. Babies have inherently superb healing abilities. Still terrible looking rough results from an aesthetic standpoint.
That one small picture of the whitehand that you've been saying is the best, is just one low quality picture with low contrast on white skin. With better lighting and closer views you'll see that too looks like bumpy lumpy beef jerky...white beef jerky with abundant margins
That being said, there are other things to follow. The results of FS2 clinical trials are worth waiting for. And, Dr. Sun hasn't done anything yet to think he's a fraud. So far he's been overly cautious and not the marketing type.
Patent rejections happen and PolarityTE has responded to Citron's report.
Could they be a fraud? Sure, I've said that in the past. But they're still working on getting the patents accepted. They may well have to publish the "trade secret" they talked about with me on the phone in order to prove the novelty of their product.
Honestly, FS2 is just another in a long line of disappointing ideas that promise % improvements. Just like Renovo before it. Could it have value for some? Sure, if you have a raised scar, keloid, hypertrophic etc. then maybe it will do something for you. But for us on herea board about scarless healingI don't think we'd be happy.
Sunogel's aim is to get complete regeneration, SkinTE has stated the same. Hold them to their burden. If they fail, they fail. But getting behind products that offer vague, hard to define % improvements isn't what any of us should want.
It's curious when a certain somebody comes back to without a hint of evidence bring down the prospect of a non-invasive scar improving drug in order to elevate the disastrous PolarityTE. Aside from beating the dead horse of a finally rejected patent to save their asses, SkinTE in any case is a horribly failed idea for revising our scars and preventing unsightly outcomes.
I wonder what he has invested in a product completely useless to people on this thread to keep promoting SkinTE here and come to their legal defense... 
3 hours ago, surgical scar said:It's curious when a certain somebody comes back to without a hint of evidence bring down the prospect of a non-invasive scar improving drug in order to elevate the disastrous PolarityTE. Aside from beating the dead horse of a finally rejected patent to save their asses, SkinTE in any case is a horribly failed idea for revising our scars and preventing unsightly outcomes.
I wonder what he has invested in a product completely useless to people on this thread to keep promoting SkinTE here and come to their legal defense...
I get what you mean, but please people, dont bother telling us the improvement drugs or any other "improvement" method.. those are trashes worse than scarless healing method which is "potential" we dont need improvement, we need total abolishment of scar tissue.. dont tell us it is unhealthy or whatever, its none of your business.. this is scarless healing thread not improvement healing trashes thread
9 hours ago, rudy1986 said:13 hours ago, surgical scar said:It's curious when a certain somebody comes back to without a hint of evidence bring down the prospect of a non-invasive scar improving drug in order to elevate the disastrous PolarityTE. Aside from beating the dead horse of a finally rejected patent to save their asses, SkinTE in any case is a horribly failed idea for revising our scars and preventing unsightly outcomes.
I wonder what he has invested in a product completely useless to people on this thread to keep promoting SkinTE here and come to their legal defense...
I get what you mean, but please people, dont bother telling us the improvement drugs or any other "improvement" method.. those are trashes worse than scarless healing method which is "potential" we dont need improvement, we need total abolishment of scar tissue.. dont tell us it is unhealthy or whatever, its none of your business.. this is scarless healing thread not improvement healing trashes thread
What the crap are you talking about? Who cares if you want to keep crying that there is no magic regeneration for you. Feel free whatever you wanna do with yourself
I've said this before and I'll say it again, I think a combination of treatment should be utilized to help regenerate our skin to its best abilities.
Something like FS2 + dermarolling+ prp etc could bring us very good results. Better than what we can achieve right now which is 50 - 80%.
I'm actually really excited for FS2. Plus Sunogel, which hopefully will be out soon.
1 hour ago, agelessfrost said:I've said this before and I'll say it again, I think a combination of treatment should be utilized to help regenerate our skin to its best abilities.
Something like FS2 + dermarolling+ prp etc could bring us very good results. Better than what we can achieve right now which is 50 - 80%.
I'm actually really excited for FS2. Plus Sunogel, which hopefully will be out soon.
sunogel repeteadly said they are developing true regenrative therapy so if sunogel comes than its sure that you gonna get complete skin back rather than 50-80% improvement...
while FS2 will take years to come ..its a drug
PRP may improve the scars size thicknesd etc but those with surgeries scar and burn scars which have shiny and pure scar tissue texture..i dont think anything except complete regenration will get rid of them
for acne scars maybe PRP can give improvement