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Hello, im new to this threads but im no just a trespassing stranger here. I have been following this thread for some time now.Seabs, or anyone, could i ask about something to all of you,
If i recall correctly, scar forms when the wounds did not reephetilized under 21 days. My question is if i have a wound that would normally heal under 21 days, yet it didnt because i consume certain drug like accutane which slows healing
If accutane left my system already and i "rewound" my skin which has a scar because of accutane, will that scar become normal tissue due to it reephetilized under 21 days?
Hi scarsgone, if you are asking about a scar revision, and you want a scar revision right now, I'd advise see a Dr. for a scar revision. A scar does take months to form; and it has been highlighted clinically that if a burn re-epithelizes under 21 days there is less scar. With regards to your theory, again I'm assuming you mean some scar revision? If so, then Imo, you would scar if you remove a scar, and let it heal as normal. There is plenty of evidence of re-scarring after scar revision healing. Using the evidence of scar revisions, your procedure wouldn't work imo.
@seabs, thx for your reply.
What mean is im pretty sure that on the scar spot, if i hadnt consumed accutane earlier, it wont scar, yet due to accutane it scars because of slow healing effects.
if my scar is excised yet creating a new wound, but this time it reephitelized sooner than 21 days because of no accutane, the new wound on the same spot would leave no trace of old scar would it?
Btw seabs, your posts have been motivating me very much. I like all about your facts. Do you believe we still have hope to achieve complete skin regeneration in 7 years? Thx man
lapis i really do hate to be a downer
Here's the Twitter page of people who are working on the gel:
I'm starting to get a bit tired of this whole Hydrogel thing. Why no updates? When is the last time we had some proper info about this?
lapis i do hate to be a downer but if this was to be a reality that women would have got a product out by know
True.... in the grand scheme, acne scars are nothing compared to what burn survivors go through. I can only imagine how incredibly hard it must be to endure. There's nothing wrong with wanting to improve your acne scarring, but we also need to keep a healthy perspective on things.
loved watching that video ...we are such shallow people to think we are scarred when burn victims go through thing we could never imagine! god bless them!
In all honesty, no I don't think it's likely to see scarless healing come to fruition before 2024. There's simply too many questions yet unanswered.
I can see treatments coming out that are greatly improved over current ones though.
Guys do u think we have a chance to regain our flawless skin before 2024?
Lapis, there is only one question that needs answered: does something completely regenerate a full thickness wound? And that is the only question that needs answered - scientifically. Not messageboard-tifically.
Scientifically: complete regeneration has been achieved against a control, a control used on thousands of mammals. The material used degraded in under 14 days and re-epithilized in under 14 days, after 21 days there was appendage growth, this happened in 2011.
This appeared in a scientific paper that was reviewed.
Your assumptions, are not a scientific paper. Btw using your free for all logic, I could actually state, flight has not been achieved, there are just to many questions.
I dunno, if you hear Dr. Fiona Wood talk about it you hear her say things like...
"Animals don't scar anywhere near the amount we do"
"We don't know what determines the retention of our shape as humans"
and
"We need to study how the nervous systems affects possible regeneration and we've only just started with that recently"
so that doesn't sound too good, Seabs. 
Lapis this is not scientific. That is a historic statement from 2009/10, by authority, which is unreliable when you use it in a scientific context. You can frame statements from historical documentation and media, and usually I would not answer it, as that would give it an equal credibility to a reviewed scientific document imo.
This is also like talking about apples and oranges.
Regarding animals and scarring, animals scar more or less than humans, not just less. But that has absolutely nothing to do with a material getting digested and eaten in the tissue of a body.
Btw, scarring is affected by stress, bigger animal scars over time have more stress, Elephants scar much more than humans, mice scar less but if you add stress to a mouse scar it would scar more.
The retention of our shape, statement, is very vague. But I guess this has something to do with stress and scarring. But this also has nothing to do with a material that dissolves in tissue.
That doesn't sound to good to your framing, but I suppose if I associated and framed bad oranges with apples, then apples would not sound to good.
Lapis, as far as I know she is associated with the company Avita Medical from Australia which has developed ReCell, because of that she would like to retain a monopoly on the market for treatment of burns and scars over the next 50 years - naturally, she doesn't like competition ... or maybe she believes that burns on large areas of skin will not be curable over the next 50 years? If she thinks that, then maybe it is possible that she is right (to cure large 3rd degree burns you need Star Trek-level technology: very advanced 3D bioprinting, molecular nanotechnology or something similar, although I personally believe that the human skin will be routinely 'manufactured' in laboratories in less than 30 years from now), but small and narrow burns and scars are more easy to treat and will surely be curable in 5 to 20 years from now.
I've just turned 15, will this kind of treatment be available when I'm in my early 20's? Looks very promising.
I heard one doctor say that people your age will perhaps have access to scarless healing when they are in their fourties. It might be sooner than that but in seven or eight years time doesn't seem likely to me.
Lapis, please do not scare small kids! Willdono, do not listen to Lapis, you should know that we now have regenerative medicine and tissue engineering as one of the 'hottest' areas of science, stem cell research, artificial organs, iPS cells (awarded with the Nobel Prize in 2012), 3D bioprinting, and so called 'soft' molecular nanotechnology, although none of that is commercially available, it is not used in hospitals by dermatologists, and it is true that all that is still imperfect, and will be improved and researched for a long time to come, but all that are emerging technologies that will sooner or later lead to a cure for scars and will be available to everyone.
"Scar tissue will no longer be any issue. My research of healing without scar tissue proves that this is possible." said Ahmad Farid. This quote is very moving for every burn and acne scar victims. A man whose life was ruined by scars are therefore consider this a blessing by Divine. "My research will continue to grow and i will become the first researcher ever to cure this life-ruining abomination"
How about those guys? Can we belueve him?
Hi guys 
. I was just a silent reader before at acne.org but now im breaking my silence because I want now to heal. Would it be the same in our nose? I heard nose heals differently and does not do well with massaging. I really want this to heal. It irritates me and blocks me from doing social stuffs with people. Do you know someone who had success treatig their nose scar? Im glad you are healing poppyw.
"Scar tissue will no longer be any issue. My research of healing without scar tissue proves that this is possible." said Ahmad Farid. This quote is very moving for every burn and acne scar victims. A man whose life was ruined by scars are therefore consider this a blessing by Divine. "My research will continue to grow and i will become the first researcher ever to cure this life-ruining abomination"
How about those guys? Can we belueve him?
Hi guys . I was just a silent reader before at acne.org but now im breaking my silence because I want now to heal. Would it be the same in our nose? I heard nose heals differently and does not do well with massaging. I really want this to heal. It irritates me and blocks me from doing social stuffs with people. Do you know someone who had success treatig their nose scar? I would be very grateful if someone would help.
"Scar tissue will no longer be any issue. My research of healing without scar tissue proves that this is possible." said Ahmad Farid. This quote is very moving for every burn and acne scar victims. A man whose life was ruined by scars are therefore consider this a blessing by Divine. "My research will continue to grow and i will become the first researcher ever to cure this life-ruining abomination"
How about those guys? Can we belueve him?
Hi guys . I was just a silent reader before at acne.org but now im breaking my silence because I want now to heal. Would it be the same in our nose? I heard nose heals differently and does not do well with massaging. I really want this to heal. It irritates me and blocks me from doing social stuffs with people. Do you know someone who had success treatig their nose scar? Im glad you are healing poppyw.
Have you been to a plastic surgeon yet? If so what did they say?
Hi guys
. I was just a silent reader before at acne.org but now im breaking my silence because I want now to heal. Would it be the same in our nose? I heard nose heals differently and does not do well with massaging. I really want this to heal. It irritates me and blocks me from doing social stuffs with people. Do you know someone who had success treatig their nose scar? Im glad you are healing poppyw.
Have you been to a plastic surgeon yet? If so what did they say?
Lapis, Not yet actually. I am more on natural treatments and healing. I am from Phlippines and i dont have enough money. I heard massaging w/ rose hip oil would help. Would it work on nose?
I've seen that picture of your scar and to me it doesn't look bad. A lot of women like "battle scars" like that. 
It adds character. But if it really bothers you you shouldn't waste your time with rose hip oil as I think it's not something which will help. What could help is to let it heal with a healing accelerator which is what is around nowadays where you have substances that dermatologists can use to speed up healing. It is a fact that the faster wounds heal the less scarring there is. So that's in my opinion your best bet. To go to a surgeon once you've got the money and talk to them about that. But like I said it doesn't look bad to me. Maybe over time you'll feel differently about your scar and lose the desire to have it changed.
See that guys, its the result of hydrogel i think
Hydrogel is the bandage of the near future. Even without stemcells it's scaffold is a benifictial enviroment for wound healing.
They achieved scar free healing in mice, although it is known that mice heal better from injury. First there are trials on pigs, very curious for the results of this test.
Hydrogel for vetenery purpose by the end of 2014.
Human trial and FDA approval, (if not seen as a divice) then investment and company purpose. "18 - 24 months"
2014
http://engineering.jhu.edu/fastforward/healing-hydrogels/
One great advantage of Gerechts hydrogel is that it is purely synthetic and contains no pharmaceuticals or animal-derived ingredients, so the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) will likely consider it a Class II medical device. (Class II medical devices are considered medium risk, and include hearing aids and syringes.) Class II devices take less time to go from laboratory to clinic than do Class III devices, such as heart valves and pacemakers, which are considered high risk, according to Ian Tolfree, MS 05, PhD 09, a business analyst with Homewood Intellectual Property, which manages IP and technology commercialization for the Homewood campus. In fact, Tolfree posits that if the upcoming pig studies turn out to be as promising as Gerecht expects, the hydrogel could be on the market for veterinary/animal use within six to 18 months. He expects that the gel will be valuable in hard-to-treat canine and feline wounds and skin conditions, as well as in slow-to-heal equine hoof and lower leg wounds, among other things.To get a human product on the market will take a bit longer, though not much, says Tolfree, who notes that the university has filed patents to protect the invention and signed a licensing agreement with one local angel investor. The main chemical ingredient here is a form of sugar currently used in bread, and which has been used clinically since the 1940s with a long safety record. I anticipate seeing hydrogel being used clinically in pre-approved trials on humans within 18 to 24 months.Gerecht and her team are also working on forms of hydrogel that are infused with various forms of human stem cells in an effort to trigger the bodys power to regenerate blood vessels. (Stem cells are undifferentiated or blank cells that have the potential to grow into almost any kind of tissue within the human body.)The idea is to harness what we know the body can already do, and enhance that ability with our biomaterials, she says. We know the biologies that are important for vasculature and are engineering them into our systems. There is still much work that must be done before we can make it work the way we want it to. But I think we are on the right track.Gerechts work is funded in part by the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation. - See more at: http://eng.jhu.edu/wse/magazine-summer-13/item/healing-wonders-of-hydrogel/#sthash.6cwtv5a9.dpuf
Few days ago:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140606184921.htm
quote:
"The polymers used by Benoit and her teams are called hydrogels because they hold water which is necessary to keep the stem cells alive.
The hydrogels, which mimic the natural tissues of the body, are specially designed to have an additional feature that's vital to the repair process.
They degrade and disappear before the body interprets them as foreign bodies and begins a defence response that could compromise the healing process."
Hydrogel and stemcell seems the way to go. Somehow I believe that Co2 laser Recell and hydrogel will work together, not scientific, it's just something that seems likely. I think hydrogel might work because of the water based -moisturizing- quality and the covarage of oxegyn-light? to the cells. Tricking the cells that they are underneath a scab. I wonder if a wound will scab as much underneath hydrogel.
Keeping an eye on the pig testing. Pig skin is very simulair to human skin. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11350644
If this works, I am convinced that all the pieces of the puzzle are there.
(imagine improving scars 90%+, so far ernesto REcell is the best result I have ever seen)
I hope you are right scarsgone2017.
