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(@repola)

Posted : 12/24/2013 10:50 pm

Good news of course, to be sure it is better wait for the official announcement.

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(@sirius-lee)

Posted : 12/25/2013 1:07 am

It would take forever to read this thread in its entirety. Is there a CliffsNote for this thread, explaining only the nuts and bolts? :)

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(@cycloverid)

Posted : 12/25/2013 10:54 pm

DARN! You got my hopes up. -__-

Oh well, the official news should be soon, hopefully.

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(@frasier)

Posted : 12/26/2013 7:57 am

What kind of Hydrogel is this?

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 12/26/2013 3:28 pm

CollegeKidd, the website was not talking about your new link. With regards to the date, the site may or may not have new information, however, it could also just be using the information cited from earlier this year that stated within 18 to 24 months...

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Posted : 12/26/2013 5:28 pm

CollegeKidd, the website was not talking about your new link. With regards to the date, the site may or may not have new information, however, it could also just be using the information cited from earlier this year that stated within 18 to 24 months...

I hope you're right, but even it's stating the 18-24 months timeframe then it's still wrong because that's not when the product will be available but when clinical trials will begin.

Either way, I'm just waiting to hear an update from John Hopkins.

 

What kind of Hydrogel is this?

I'm assuming some cream? Which obviously isn't going to completely get rid of scars.

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(@binga)

Posted : 12/26/2013 11:48 pm

Some surgeons use this company to do stem cell fat grafting. http://www.intellicellbiosciences.com/ . Could be a good option for now.

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 12/29/2013 7:24 pm

The 18 to 24 month time frame can subtract about 12 now though, maybe...

 

CollegeKidd, the website was not talking about your new link. With regards to the date, the site may or may not have new information, however, it could also just be using the information cited from earlier this year that stated within 18 to 24 months...

I hope you're right, but even it's stating the 18-24 months timeframe then it's still wrong because that's not when the product will be available but when clinical trials will begin.

Either way, I'm just waiting to hear an update from John Hopkins.

>What kind of Hydrogel is this?

I'm assuming some cream? Which obviously isn't going to completely get rid of scars.

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(@frasier)

Posted : 01/01/2014 2:17 pm

When can we expect some actual news about Hydrogel? And I don't mean news like..."will make skin heal without scar" bla bla. I want news where it tells us if it will work on humans or not. And when we can expect such treatments.

I'm trying to be positive, but sometimes it can be so frustrating to not hear anything.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 01/02/2014 2:42 am

When can we expect some actual news about Hydrogel? And I don't mean news like..."will make skin heal without scar" bla bla. I want news where it tells us if it will work on humans or not. And when we can expect such treatments.

 

I'm trying to be positive, but sometimes it can be so frustrating to not hear anything.

From the Facebook page they posted on November 18th that the trials on pigs would be completed. On the lower end of that they would already be done and on the upper end of that the trials would be ending right around now.

As far as knowing whether or not it will work on humans, I think we're a little far away from that unless it doesn't work on pigs. If it does though then going off Gerecht's lab stated timeline then we're probably looked at another 12-18 months before trials begin on humans that would allow for a definitive answer. I wish it was sooner but hopefully the news is good from the pig trials and who knows, maybe their timeline will be accelerated.

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(@frasier)

Posted : 01/02/2014 4:57 am

Thanks for the information, Golfpanther. :)

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(@softly_softly)

Posted : 01/02/2014 2:47 pm

Holy crap. Every few months I remember this place and come back to see what's up and find myself clicking on this thread neutral.gif

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(@sirius-lee)

Posted : 01/02/2014 4:56 pm

How will this work on existing scars?

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(@acnescarsarehell)

Posted : 01/03/2014 1:20 am

hey all. I am not sure the science behind a dermabrasion in terms of where the scars lie exactly and how the skin regenerates. However, I do know that dermabrasions will help rebuild collagen due to the ablation of the skin. In addition, I have done a dermabrasion and got more results than any laser or filler I have done. The results were the most impressive for a single treatment by far. The logic behind a dermabrasion is to just sand down the uneven layers of the skin. This makes the scars less noticeable when light hits. I have gotten about a 30% improvement with one dermabrasion (for rolling and boxcar scars). I think the dermabrasion brings the uneven holes down to a certain degree since you cannot go too deep or you will scar. When the skin grows back, it grows back smoother. That is why some people do more than one dermabrasion because you will progressively get better as the scars are shallower and shallower.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 01/03/2014 9:46 am

Seriously? :P

How will this work on existing scars?

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Posted : 01/05/2014 5:49 pm

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how wide the skin removal can be? I know the report said 8mm but does that mean 8mm deep or was the length of the skin that was removed 8mm? It would be a hassle to have to remove a bunch of small sections of skin instead of just removing a large portion of the skin.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 01/06/2014 12:32 pm

Eight mm? Talk about having a thick skin! I'm pretty sure it was the width.

As far as the other questions are concerned... I think if the hydrogel comes through i.e. it gets used in the clinic then it will improve what's out there now and what's out there now is for instance something that's used for large areas in order to have them heal faster or heal in the first place. Now, the hydrogel will lessen scar formation not stop it completely. That's what I'd put my money on. But it won't have any restrictions as far as wound size is concerned. I think. Just my two cents.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how wide the skin removal can be? I know the report said 8mm but does that mean 8mm deep or was the length of the skin that was removed 8mm? It would be a hassle to have to remove a bunch of small sections of skin instead of just removing a large portion of the skin.

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 01/07/2014 6:05 am

Lapis by sticking to the scientific papers, and sticking to the logic in the papers and logic from cited papers in the paper, with regards to speed of re-epithelization, also sticking to the fact it beat a control with known behaviour etc.. Then this, if it digests rapidly enough to be re-epithelized, should regenerate completely.

 

Eight mm? Talk about having a thick skin! I'm pretty sure it was the width.

As far as the other questions are concerned... I think if the hydrogel comes through i.e. it gets used in the clinic then it will improve what's out there now and what's out there now is for instance something that's used for large areas in order to have them heal faster or heal in the first place. Now, the hydrogel will lessen scar formation not stop it completely. That's what I'd put my money on. But it won't have any restrictions as far as wound size is concerned. I think. Just my two cents.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how wide the skin removal can be? I know the report said 8mm but does that mean 8mm deep or was the length of the skin that was removed 8mm? It would be a hassle to have to remove a bunch of small sections of skin instead of just removing a large portion of the skin.

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(@hiddy-cheeks)

Posted : 01/14/2014 12:51 am

Latest update from FB re hydrogel. Who is this and how do they know what's going on with the trials, they've already been wrong on the completion date.

"Have just been informed that animal trials are still underway and one being done just now seems to be going very well."

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(@binga)

Posted : 01/14/2014 1:09 am

This company also have a product for scarless healing. Looks promising. http://www.histogen.com/aboutus/news_events.htm#46

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 01/14/2014 5:58 am

Back when I still kept track of scarless healing more closely I read an e-mail response I think of Histogen where they said that they weren't yet developing any treatment for scarless healing and that wasn't too long ago. Their approach doesn't seem to me to be as effective potentially as other ones either, I think. But that's just judging by the way they speak of it.

This company also have a product for scarless healing. Looks promising. http://www.histogen.com/aboutus/news_events.htm#46

They're people who keep in touch with the doctors from Johns Hopkins through e-mail. They used to post here but got sick of it as they were accused of being frauds/liars.

Latest update from FB re hydrogel. Who is this and how do they know what's going on with the trials, they've already been wrong on the completion date.

"Have just been informed that animal trials are still underway and one being done just now seems to be going very well."

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 01/14/2014 8:45 am

She has not or been wrong at all; all she has done is pass on a message from a source.

Latest update from FB re hydrogel. Who is this and how do they know what's going on with the trials, they've already been wrong on the completion date.

"Have just been informed that animal trials are still underway and one being done just now seems to be going very well."

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(@pattymo)

Posted : 01/16/2014 11:53 am

Just found this, published 2 days ago.... http://engineering.jhu.edu/fastforward/2014/01/14/betting-on-healing-hydrogels/

looks like they're hoping to have a veterinary product by the end of this year...

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 01/16/2014 7:48 pm

Fast forward is also the initiative highlighted on this thread, last year.

Just found this, published 2 days ago.... http://engineering.jhu.edu/fastforward/2014/01/14/betting-on-healing-hydrogels/

looks like they're hoping to have a veterinary product by the end of this year...

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 01/17/2014 8:45 am

Thank you.

Just found this, published 2 days ago.... http://engineering.jhu.edu/fastforward/2014/01/14/betting-on-healing-hydrogels/

looks like they're hoping to have a veterinary product by the end of this year...

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