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On Nov. 1st, I started new regimen. I like to think of it as a purging. I'm ridding my skin of all the garbage I've been putting on it these past years. And I'm not taking anything from it (natural essential oils). That means no soap.
I've read somewhere online that the epidermis regenerates itself every 28 days (a complete moon cycle). So I'm going to let it heal itself. I've been taking one 10-15 minute hot shower every day. The heat in the shower is like a sauna. I sweat out all the garbage without stripping my skin with soap. The shower also loosens up my dead skin, making it easier to GENTLY exfoliate with a wash rag. I have a buzz, so I use the rag over my entire head, face, and neck. During the first week of November I was sloughing off handfulls of dead skin.
35 days later, and I've had a lot of improvement. I can't say I am where I want to be, but my skin was damaged. It may need more than 28 days to heal. I'll stick with it, and keep everyone posted. I'm very optimistic.
I should not that I am otherwise healthy. I eat a balanced diet. Quite a bit of junk, but plenty of produce and tons of variety. I am also fairly active.
From the British Journal of Dermatology,
Seborrhoeic dermatitis is not caused by an altered immune response to Malassezia yeast
You can view the abstract here:
http://onlinelibrary...hly+maintenance
what does that mean?
Seborrhoeic dermatitis and Seborrhea .. Are they the same thing? I was diagnosed with Seborrhea a year ago, although whatever the heck it is, I have been struggling with for a couple years now! Since, like, 15 or 16.. I'm 19 now. I just want it all gone!
Honestly, I'm confused on my conditions. I don't know what to do for it =/ I used an antifungal cream once before. It didn't do anything, though I only used it a very short period. I also used a steroid cream but I didn't trust putting on steroid creams so that was also short lived. Once before when I was on accutane over a year ago I was using a certain moisturizer for rosacea prone red skin and I was wearing a ton of sunblock with zinc and it seemed to help. Maybe it was the zinc? Or probably a coincidence. Idk. But either way It's still here. My skin is just horribleeee 
Red, Irritated, acne, yellow flaky things on my cheeks, itchy skin, and now I believe I'm developing an eczema rash on the side of my face. =/
@ Moonset777 I read that you have had success controlling your SD by lifestyle changes? Do u use any type of face wash? Can the dryness from my accutane course be acting up my inflamed skin?
hopeful are you currently on accutane? Im on 20mg once a week and my SD has never been this bad plus I have clogged pores everywhere. Ive been on the accutane for 11 weeks and no improvment with the clogs at all. In fact they are worse...Im at my wits end over this...i pick them constantly
@ Moonset777 I read that you have had success controlling your SD by lifestyle changes? Do u use any type of face wash? Can the dryness from my accutane course be acting up my inflamed skin?
Hi,
I don't use any type of facewashes whatsoever just good old water to wash my face. Steroid creams are no use if you are looking to clear this
condition and long term use of them especially on the face will damage your skin. Seb Derm easily builds up a resistance to them anyway.
If you wish to improve your condition you must address the situation internally and look at changing your diet in addition to taking
supplements that can be benficial in treating SD. Sorry but I can't give you any advice on the accutane thing as I have never used it and know
very little about it.
P.s If you are looking for a quick reply from me in future it may speed things up if you actually PM me as I rarely visit this Forum
now and only stumbeld across your question by chance today. I hope i can be of some help to you so if there is anything you'd like to
know please get in touch.
I was listening to the news on TV and heard about the following:
http://www.medicalne...cles/238227.php
I believe that it's very interesting.
It is very interesting indeed. Something like this has been long overdue. Hope they are onto something
here for the sake of all people who suffer from those afflictions. Thanks for posting!!!!
This is amazing news! I'm not trying to get my hopes up but can this please be true!! I NEED this and willing to pay whatever, just saying. If anyone has more links like this please update.
On 12/21/2011 at 8:09 AM, wicky said:hopeful are you currently on accutane? Im on 20mg once a week and my SD has never been this bad plus I have clogged pores everywhere. Ive been on the accutane for 11 weeks and no improvment with the clogs at all. In fact they are worse...Im at my wits end over this...i pick them constantly
I was on Accutane for a month but my insurance got cut off & I can't afford it with no help so I discontinued my course on the 14th of this month. It had made things worse for me due to the drying. It's caused me a ton of eczema rashes. On the sides of my face, Under my chin and on my arms. It's sooo dry it feels like sandpaper. I just don't know what to do nomore [Edited image out]I was on 80 mgs for 1 month and I guess it's hit my skin with a double whammy of dryness. It's been a week since I've been off accutane and my skin still hasn't gotten back to normal. It's definitely breaking out but it's super dry. [Edited image out]
wow hopeful thats kind of the way i feel right now. My SD was never this bad until I went on accutane. Im on 20mg once a week, I cant even imagine what 80mg a day is like. Your skin must have been sahara dry!! My derm wants me to go on 30mg a week to see if it will help the oil production in my chin...I would rather the SD than this chin shit...The clogs are disgusting and by the end of the day, I dont leave the house because they look terrible.
i just a treatment for my hair for my dandruff/flakes of ACV left on for a few minutes then I washed with some coconut shampoo mixed with tea tree oil and some jojoba for moisture and my hair looks horrible...I still have a ton of flakes despite this!!! WTF...i thought all of these were good options after reading this entire thread. What does one do when your hair is now dry and has flakes...rewash but with what?
i just a treatment for my hair for my dandruff/flakes of ACV left on for a few minutes then I washed with some coconut shampoo mixed with tea tree oil and some jojoba for moisture and my hair looks horrible...I still have a ton of flakes despite this!!! WTF...i thought all of these were good options after reading this entire thread. What does one do when your hair is now dry and has flakes...rewash but with what?
Give it a chance. You can't expect to totally clear dandruff after one application of anything.
These things may take several weeks or so before you see a marked improvement.
how does everyone wash their faces when they have SD? Im curious as to what people use as well. I have experiemented with so many in the last year and STILL have not found something that doesnt irritate my rosacea
but removes dead skin, flakes and a bit of light makeup. Its like no such cleanser exists. I been using Garden of Wisdom products and while they seem very good I have not been able to find a cleanser. Ive tried CeraVe, Cetaphil, and harshes ones like Serious Skin Cares AHA cleanser too. Lately Ive been using Mild and Castille Cleaser by GOW and gentlye taking a cotton washcloth and removing all the dead skin that accumulates during the day. Its not makeup because I dont wear any in that area but an accumulation of dead skin cells. Its gross. Then I pat my face dry and when I look back there are hundreds of hard pieces of solidified sebum sticking out of my chin pores. I have to then go around my entire chin area from crease to the tip of my chin with my tweezer and prick them out. They sit right on the top of the pore and can be seen and dont take anything more than a flick of the tweezer to come out. I just dont understand if my skin is oil or dry? What should I put in this area to stop this? This has always been my big question. I know too much exfoliation is bad but how can I start to apply moisturizers and other crap on top when my skin has all this gunk still laying on it? Anyone else have this problem? Also, my flakies are the kind that I can take my tweezer and lift dry sheets of skin off. They are not yellow or oily but more white and dry. They are basically everywhere. Ive done more research on SD and remedies and nothing has panned out in almost a year. ACV is way to harsh, even diluted for my face area. Its ok for the forehead but I then never know what to apply for moisture. Protopic helps the sides of my face where there are basically no pores so it wont clog me or break me out. Ive tried Dermadoctors Born to be mild cleanser and thats too harsh for my skin and I dont know if it removes makeup. Ive changed my diet drastically but will cheat once a day with a low glycemic gluten free cookie. Ive done the anti fungal thing like drinking ACV and taking Oil of Oregano. Ive even resorted to using oral Nystatin perscription from my derm but that did nothing either. My last resort was low dose accutane that I started on October 1. I truely thought it would make the yeast better by lowering oil production and therefore would have nothing to feed off of. I think I was wrong and its only made it worse. Ive only been taking 20mg once a week and cannot believe that low of a dose would do that...sorry for the ton of info i've spurted out by I cant take this one more minute. Ive lost my entire life because of this...I even hid out on christmas eve from my family and kids. I was feeling like i had the flu and was actually glad to be by myself on christmas eve. How sad is that....
Hi guys,
I've not read this thread but as i've had SD and completely resolved it, i'll say this:
-Wash with warm water to get rid of all oil. Don't use soaps, especially not shampoo even if it has zinc or ketoconazole in.
-Apply ketoconazole cream liberally (nizoral 2%)
-Avoid gluten and foods which encourage excessive amount of unwanted bacteria in the small intestine (SIBO).
The reason I believe the latter point is because when I went on antibiotics, my SD resolved entirely. (altho antibiotics themselves are not a sustainable solution)
I had severe SD btw.
Avoid soaps and shampoo on your face. Make sure you properly nuke your scalp with nizoral shampoo though. Change pillow case frequently.
Hello everyone. I've had this problem for around EIGHTor NINE years now. I'm 23 years old now. This problem occurred when I was going through puberty. I started getting really bad acne. I was a very active kid and still am but have always had the propensity to eat a lot of sugary foods, but I would I also eat good enough at night. Being proud and very judgmental about my own looks, I immediately put products on my face--some over the counter and from dermatologists--which COMPLETEY shattered my face. It was like leatherface. I was/still am a good looking guy (as you all are) but this just debilitated me. And it's literally haunted every waking moment of my life for the last eight years. I am not even the same brightful kid. I'm about to graduate college, however, it's been a struggle to go to classes on most days. My skin isn't as bad now, but there is still lingering redness and constant dryness around nose and cheeks. Nobody knows what it feels like to not even be able to touch your face without some sediment falling from brows, cheeks, hair, etc. It's progressively gotten better, but of course, there are good days and bad days, and as the days go on those bad days get more frustrating; and the good days ain't as good because you're waiting for the inevitable flare-up. NOW THE GOOD STUFF! Everyone on this board can get rid of your SB. It is all intestinal. My advice? Go to a doctor. Get a blood test and wait for every single result. I'm talking hormones (big-time contributor from immune system), parasites, allergies, etc. I'm talking everything-white blood cell count (WBC) and (RBC), organ functioning, etc. There is an inherent problem within all of our bodies. This may have been triggered by excessive stress combined with taking antibiotics WHICH KILLS THE GOOD FUNGI IN OUR BODIES. Your days of taking antibiotics and depending upon something other than your own system are over. I'm guessing everyone on the board went to the dermatologist with the high hopes of getting better. And I bet it did...for a few weeks. Then it came back. Why? A plant's leaf doesn't grow from the soil people, it grows from the roots of the plant. It's in our bodies--the face is the LAST stage for it to show. Change your diet!!! If you reallly want to get better, you need to eliminate sugar TOTALLY from your diet. Take Probiotics (The good fungus!) Please people I want to help you, I know how messed up the Big Pharma is, they want you to keep coming back. In other words, they don't want to cure you!! They want you to get better on the surface. It's tough work but you need to clean out your insides. Seb. D is a fungus that doesn't just grow on the skin, is the aftermath of the bad intestinal flora seeping it's way in the blood stream. Also, chew your food slower and more deliberately so your body has a chance to break down chunks of food--this is another usefull tidbit. I've been prescribed everything and anything (they say I have rosacea too, which is B.s) under the sun, and I recently took it upon myself to make lifestyle changes. The doctor goes "I see the cream has been working" and I go I haven't taken the cream or antibiotics since the last time I came in here. I only went to the dermatologist to prove what a wank he was. If you want help ask me for my OPINION. Been doing my own research on this stuff for a while now. Also, check glucose levels when you go to a REAL doctor--Diabetes=weak immune system=can't process sugar=too much fungi=SB!
From the British Journal of Dermatology,
Seborrhoeic dermatitis is not caused by an altered immune response to Malassezia yeast
You can view the abstract here:
http://onlinelibrary...hly+maintenance
Anyone care to explain exactly what this is saying? Does this mean all of the anti fungal experiments we've been trying won't really help?
From the British Journal of Dermatology,
Seborrhoeic dermatitis is not caused by an altered immune response to Malassezia yeast
You can view the abstract here:
http://onlinelibrary...hly+maintenance
Anyone care to explain exactly what this is saying? Does this mean all of the anti fungal experiments we've been trying won't really help?
I still think it's fungal/yeast related. Accordiing to that report it appears that they have discounted Malassezia yeast as being a main factor in the SD condition. I never thought it was anyway. The causes of SD imho are all internal, candida, diet, poor digestion, leaky gut, weak immune system.
so whats the best cure? Ive done the diet thing for over a year...no sugar, barley any grains..only good ones like brown rice or quoina and some buckwheat..i eat lots of veggies and protein. I take supplments..a good multi, zinc, vitimin a & d plus eveing primrose oil supplements. I also take vitamin c...WTF am I missing? I have a patch of red blotches that some days are light pink and others like today are blaring red..They form together to almost look rash like..Ive been applying 2% Ketonazole (sp) cream for the first time ever and after two days its worse...Ive tried protopic but it always comes back...I have dead skin and flakes everywhere over my face and cannot get this under control..I ve applied ACV and it burns like hell and makes it redder and drier...Ive tried a lavender serum and tons of other shit...I was using products from www.gardenofwisdom.com but nothing has helped sooth and get rid of it...The spots are never raised so its not rosacea as its on the lower side of my left face...Heres a pic...can someone pls HELP
Hi guys. I have suffer this since about 4 years caused by Diprosone Creme (cortico steroid) for my acne redspots.. Too late I have been informed that diprosone thicknesses the skin and .. hello seborrhea:( tried so much cosmetic products+specific diets and 1 week max with clean face.. after that it's back with full strenth. I want to share with you someting that is healing me now since 5 months!! The name of my miracle is Zinc Pyrithione. I don't know all producs that include that substance, mine is kinda spray. I can apply direct to my face or 1st to finger that massage areas...anyway, for those who are desperate defenetly try that!
Hope I'v helped.
I don't know if anyone has linked to this page, but this guy says to use raw honey and virgin coconut oil to treat it. I am trying it out and I've only been doing it for a few days, but it seems to help. In fact, I just created this account just to post this. Hopefully this will help at least some of you.
I don't know if anyone has linked to this page, but this guy says to use raw honey and virgin coconut oil to treat it. I am trying it out and I've only been doing it for a few days, but it seems to help. In fact, I just created this account just to post this. Hopefully this will help at least some of you.