Has anyone here been damaged by retinoids and gotten their skin back to normal?
I am desperate for hope.
I don't mean normal irritation.
I'm talking orange peel skin, enlarged/suddenly visible pores,plasticky coating look, discoloration, thinning of skin, crepeiness, wrinkles, random indentations and lines, weak/fragile/lax skin etc etc
Im so done with what's happened with my own situation with a retinoid, it's going to be 5 months since I used it come the end of January and I can't take it anymore. My skin should be healed by now. I only used the stuff twice!! I'm going crazy here. I've spoken to countless others dealing with the same thing...it's just so ridiculous...this seems like something dermatologists should be aware of and able to assist with. I would thinkit would be easily resolved since it happened just as easily.
Im sick of sobbing and I'm tired. The retinoid is the only harsh or questionable thing I've ever done to my skin...there's no prior damage or reason it shouldn't be bouncing back and I still don't understand the orange peel look...I get such vastly different opinions on what and why it occurs even on previously "poreless" or near perfect looking skin...but I don't know what the truth is. And without knowing for sure, I can't choose the right solution. I can't risk experimentation.
Just please, if anyone has solid answers or experience with this, please please help if you can.
thank you
I'm talking orange peel skin, enlarged/suddenly visible pores,plasticky coating look, discoloration, thinning of skin, crepeiness, wrinkles, random indentations and lines, weak/fragile/lax skin etc etc
Most of them will heal up with time typically 6 months to 2 years according to burn surgeons. You might have to go on oral antibiotic and steroid cream ( very very short term). And no exfoliation. If there any flaking or heavy damaged skin buildup going on try Vanicream Zbar once the redness goes down. From my experience, my orange peel/ enlarged pores healed up about 90% after 1 year, could've been sooner if I had knew this beforehand.
35 minutes ago, moomoocow said:I'm talking orange peel skin, enlarged/suddenly visible pores,plasticky coating look, discoloration, thinning of skin, crepeiness, wrinkles, random indentations and lines, weak/fragile/lax skin etc etcMost of them will heal up with time typically 6 months to 2 years according to burn surgeons. You might have to go on oral antibiotic and steroid cream ( very very short term). And no exfoliation. If there any flaking or heavy damaged skin buildup going on try Vanicream Zbar once the redness goes down. From my experience, my orange peel/ enlarged pores healed up about 90% after 1 year, could've been sooner if I had knew this beforehand.
That's interesting, because I actually went to a burn center and they told me there was nothing they could do for me.
yes I used the steroid cream for 7 days 3 weeks after this happened initially. Low percentage. All it did was break me out.
Then I got doxycycline, now I'm on cephalexin (Keflex). My issues is that I would think it would have showed SOME signs of improvement by now..4.5 months later of basically leaving it alone.
I will check out the zbar.
one derm gave me a moisturizer called hylatopic plus for healingbut I don't know whether it's good to clog my face with moisturizer right now...Its difficult to get off becaue my face is "sticky" and waxy and just weak even though it looks rough....I never know what the right thing to do is because my skin isn't responding to tell me one way or the other...it's not acting or looking like SKIN at all.
Thank you for replying,....any other advice??
What do you think about using honey?
i tried raw honey for few months but it left me somewhat irritated and red after washing it off.
As for moisturizers, you need to realize that during the healing process there will be a thick buildup of burnt/damaged skin cells. I would carefully apply them thinly or nothing at all. You don't want to risk getting bazillion clogged pores like myself.
On 1/13/2017 at 2:01 PM, moomoocow said:i tried raw honey for few months but it left me somewhat irritated and red after washing it off.
As for moisturizers, you need to realize that during the healing process there will be a thick buildup of burnt/damaged skin cells. I would carefully apply them thinly or nothing at all. You don't want to risk getting bazillion clogged pores like myself.
Yea I'm going to probably nix the honey . Thank you..I'm wondering if you had what seems like thin and fragile skin..almost plasticky/gel like also?? sometimes if I pull up the skin, (it moves across my face with the lightest touch D:) it looks more normal and when I let it go, it crepes and ripples back up and makes the pores and everything look 10x worse. Makes my temples look like they have comb lines (included pic). It's so fragile like the thinnest plastic wrap ever or something.
I wonder if this now thinned skin is actually why it looks reddish/mottled and why the pores are so noticeable ....like its so thin that it's falling into the pores and I can see the irritation through it, (yet it's not peeling) and also perhaps thats why my eyelids/forehead/nose and inner cheeks feel numb and "foreign" sometimes, like I can feel the skin sag...it's just bizarre, I've never seen my skin like this, it affects the whole way my face looks.
I want to exercise too to get some blood flow up to my face but I don't know if that will make things worse, I've pretty much stopped moving around after this happened.
i just never know what the right thing to do is...I feel like there IS a perfect combination of things I can do to get my skin back but if I do one thing wrong im screwed forever
i included a pic of my skin before too of the same area
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18 hours ago, BrokenPorEcelain said:22 hours ago, cloudydreamer said:Were you on Accutane before?
Yes 4 years ago
I'm sorry you're still going through this. I'm pretty sure we talked a few months ago and you were very upset. I've also still been struggling with my skin, but I've found that Minocycline is helping for now until I figured out what triggered the initial breakout...but I'm 100% sure it's hormonal and made worse by birth control unfortunately. So I feel you, it's very upsetting when the traditional treatments fail, when the doctors keep making you worse with more symptoms you didn't even have to begin with. That's been my nightmare since November.
Anyway, I've been reading a lot about Accutane and some users say that post-course, their skin is permanently more sensitive, dry, etc. I would recommend as a result not doing any more weird treatments to your face since it seems like Accutane can make your skin thinner and more prone to scarring. Maybe that is why Tazorac was way too strong for you and caused this reaction to begin with. Hyaluronic acid is good for restoring collagen and repairing scarring without irritating the skin. A gentle vitamin C serum could also help. VaniCream is a good cleanser without any irritants for rosacea and sensitive skin and doesn't contain SLES/SLS.
Also, as simplistic as this sounds...I think not obsessing over your skin will also make you heal faster. Being constantly anxious, crying and upset over your face will affect your entire being, and could even trigger breakouts or delay the healing process by causing inflammation. I'm a believer in the mind-body connection. Even eating a lot of omega 3s and collagen building foods could potentially help you. But not stressing is #1. It's really depressing, I get you, but unfortunately it will not change your situation to obsess over it. Think of it this way...worse case scenario, your skin remains the way it is right now for several months to a few years until it heals, but in the mean time you can still enjoy life, appreciate the people you love, have amazing experiences, travel the world, and be a great person. Your skin doesn't define the quality of your life, who you are or what kinds of experiences you have. People get acne, wrinkles, pock marks, and sometimes even worse scarring yet still lead fulfilling, happy lives, get married, have children, manage companies, party, and have fun. We all notice our own flaws more than other people ever do, or even care about.
9 hours ago, cloudydreamer said:I'm sorry you're still going through this. I'm pretty sure we talked a few months ago and you were very upset. I've also still been struggling with my skin, but I've found that Minocycline is helping for now until I figured out what triggered the initial breakout...but I'm 100% sure it's hormonal and made worse by birth control unfortunately. So I feel you, it's very upsetting when the traditional treatments fail, when the doctors keep making you worse with more symptoms you didn't even have to begin with. That's been my nightmare since November.Anyway, I've been reading a lot about Accutane and some users say that post-course, their skin is permanently more sensitive, dry, etc. I would recommend as a result not doing any more weird treatments to your face since it seems like Accutane can make your skin thinner and more prone to scarring. Maybe that is why Tazorac was way too strong for you and caused this reaction to begin with. Hyaluronic acid is good for restoring collagen and repairing scarring without irritating the skin. A gentle vitamin C serum could also help. VaniCream is a good cleanser without any irritants for rosacea and sensitive skin and doesn't contain SLES/SLS.
Also, as simplistic as this sounds...I think not obsessing over your skin will also make you heal faster. Being constantly anxious, crying and upset over your face will affect your entire being, and could even trigger breakouts or delay the healing process by causing inflammation. I'm a believer in the mind-body connection. Even eating a lot of omega 3s and collagen building foods could potentially help you. But not stressing is #1. It's really depressing, I get you, but unfortunately it will not change your situation to obsess over it. Think of it this way...worse case scenario, your skin remains the way it is right now for several months to a few years until it heals, but in the mean time you can still enjoy life, appreciate the people you love, have amazing experiences, travel the world, and be a great person. Your skin doesn't define the quality of your life, who you are or what kinds of experiences you have. People get acne, wrinkles, pock marks, and sometimes even worse scarring yet still lead fulfilling, happy lives, get married, have children, manage companies, party, and have fun. We all notice our own flaws more than other people ever do, or even care about.
Yes we did. Are you the one who thought it may have been an allergic reaction?? I remember your name coming up a lot trying to help me.
I really hope your own issues resolve fully as well. This is honestly the worst, I don't wish a lick of it or anything like it on anyone.