On 5/26/2020 at 8:53 AM, Scrubdaddy said:

@ElaineAThank you very much for this information, I am keen to try this solution.

@SoftvoiceI agreewith others thatif you've not tried Bactroban,it's relatively easy and targets the nose area.

I was looking at mite solutions for the sensitive eye area. Istumbled across hypochlorous acid(HOCl), which is a mild natural substance used in eye washes and also baby care. I have a cheap baby sanitising spray called "Vital Baby Aquaint" (500ml) which I'm using. Others have mentioned using it for rosacea google "hypochlorous acid + rosacea" if you're curious.

Another cream I'm trying is crotamiton 10% (brand name Eurax). It comes in big 100g tubes so good for larger areas. Here's a Crotamiton & Demodex study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2958185/

I have been using thehypochlorous acid(HOCl) spray on eyelids and face for about 2.5 years now. It is soothing and very helpful. I still use it nightly as a maintenance treatment. Tea tree oil topicalshelp as well. I still use a tea tree oil face wash nightly also as a preventative maintenance treatment. Cliradex wipes using a tea tree oil extract are also helpful. Crotamiton is another excellent topical - I never tried it but those who have report good results. For me it took the 2 drug oral treatment to clear the mites out of the glands, especially the eyes - my occular rosacea (blepharitis demodex) was severe. Still clear at 26 months.

Other options include making a mask of 1/2 tsp boricacid powder mixed with a few drops of glycerin to make a thin paste. Put it in the affected areas and leave for about 30 minutes, then rinse.

If the mites have made your skin and scalp itchy, soaking in a warm bath for 30 minutes with 1 cup borax powder (20 Muleteam Borax) + 1 cup moisturizing epsom salts (Dr. Teal's Moisturizing Epsom salts). Note the borax powder is not boric acid powder, not the same thing. Both contain the element boron in different chemical forms.

DIY Borax shampoo for itchy scalp: ! Tablespoon of 20 Muleteam Borax Powder per cup of hot water. Let cool and put in shampoo bottle. Use in place of shampoo. Since it is a bit alkaline, follow with a very dilute vinegar rinse to rebalance the pH of your hair. Follow that with a good hair conditioner.

@ElaineAthank you very much for sharing.

I have been using Soolantra for 7 weeksnow (only on face).Ibroke out againat the start ofweek #6.This second time aroundwas worsethat the first time during week #3 and it was taking longer to clear up so I started considering oral ivermectin. Soolantra has helped my skin big time,yetmy skin wasstill not100% perfectso I wonderedwhy my face was still breaking out and I came up with the following speculations:

• ivermectincream is not 100% effective against Demodex mites as some seem to manage to survive
• newDemodex mites are getting to my face from other infested parts of my body (head/scalp, chest, back ...)
• the pimples are actually not caused byDemodex mites but something else that is positively reacting toivermectin (I was actually never tested)

Because one or a combinationof these maybetrue, I decided to take oral ivermectin (Stromectol).I took 12mg (I'm ~60kg) last Sunday (24May 2020) in the morning on an empty stomach. On Mon and Tue I have had a headache all day long, and it got quitepainful onMon evening but I still slept okthat night. Googling for ivermectin andheadache,it seems to be a common side effect due to the immune system dealing with the dead parasites.

Since Sunday my facekeeps clearing upand is getting close to perfectionbut it might be too early to screamvictory. I also need to see if my chest and back are going toclearupnow (my scalp has been pimple free for a while now, I could feel a bump at the back of my head yesterday though). SoI will keep you updated.

Ihave been applying Soolantra both in the morning and the evening for a week now.I do not applyanything else (i ran out of sulfur and decided not to order more, and I'm basically usingSoolantra as a moisturiser now so I stopped applying hyaluronic+tto thenceravepm in the am). Here's my current routine:

• am: gently wash face with Vanicream facial cleanser and jump inshower to rinse off and wash body. Shave any second day, rinse off with cold water, pat face dry with tissues. ApplySoolantra cream with cotton tip
• pm: gently wash face with Vanicream,rinse off+pat dry. Apply Soolantra cream with cotton tip

Since Sunday, I change my bed sheets every day, in case some mites escaped oral ivermectin and then make their way back to my body once oral ivermectin is no longer in my system. I also use a different towel every time.

Iplanon taking the second and last dose of Stromectol this coming Sunday. Then I will let dust settle downand monitor progress (I will keep applying Soolantra cream though).

20 hours ago, seb7 said:

@ElaineAthank you very much for sharing.

• >> ivermectincream is not 100% effective against Demodex mites as some seem to manage to survive
  • POSSIBLE: Soolantra/Rosiver cream is only 1%. Some people use Ivermectin Horse Paste which1.87%. The Horse paste is about $5 USD on Amazon for a small tube.
• >> newDemodex mites are getting to my face from other infested parts of my body (head/scalp, chest, back ...)
  • Also possible. One drawback to using the cream is that its primarily used on the face. At $500-650 USD full retail price, Soolantra isgenerally not used anywhere but on the face. The mites can cause the same issues with the scalp, chest, back, etc. Oral Ivermection works all over the body - definitely can help general body issues with the parasites.
• >> the pimples are actually not caused byDemodex mites but something else that is positively reacting toivermectin (I was actually never tested)
  • Possible, but doubtful if the Ivermectin cream shows improvement. Ivermectin is anti-parasitic and wouldn't likely have any effect on a bacterial or fungal infection. Sometimes people do get mites and they track around bacteria and fungus at night when they come out to mate. Get rid of the mites and any remaining issues should be easier to treat if needed.

>> On Mon and Tue I have had a headache all day long, and it got quitepainful onMon evening but I still slept okthat night. Googling for ivermectin andheadache,it seems to be a common side effect due to the immune system dealing with the dead parasites.

- I was fortunate to have no bad side effects. The first dose of Ivermectin made me sleepy but no headache.

>> Since Sunday, I change my bed sheets every day, in case some mites escaped oral ivermectin and then make their way back to my body once oral ivermectin is no longer in my system. I also use a different towel every time.

- GOOD! The mitescan live on a damp towel for up to 54 hours. Can't hurt to wash the sheets daily too until youare clear of the mites.

>> Iplanon taking the second and last dose of Stromectol this coming Sunday. Then I will let dust settle downand monitor progress (I will keep applying Soolantra cream though).

- Sounds like a good plan! Make sure you get that second dose of Ivermectin. Its important to kill off the new hatchlings. The Ivermectin kills the adults but not the eggs. The topical Soolantra should help reduce any resistantsurface breeders as well.

GOOD LUCK!!! I hope this works well for you. The results of the first round of treatment sound promising.

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On 3/2/2015 at 12:53 PM, bleh445 said:

hey rocketboysf, Im pretty sure what you're going through is gram negative folliculitis, its basically a leaky gut manifestation on the skin due to all the antibiotics taken prior..you can search for gram negative folliculitis and look through the images and see similar condition as yours..(pustules around mouth).

I am some what having this but much milder mine just happen to dry off/disappear after a shower and are very superficial pustules without inflammation due to a somewhat strict diet..

mine anyhow appeared after a course of accutane or may be i was too oblivious that i didnt notice it being there with my normal acne (cause i had taken several courses of antibiotics before accutane)..its been 1 and a half years after accutane and i get no acne except these white fellows.. doesnt bother me alot since i told you it sort of happens to disappear after a shower..

 

I compiled some links which might be helpful for you and others..(leading to other forums also)

 

[Edited link out] (the comments section)

 

(scroll down to recreants comment..he talks about foliculitis ..l-glutamine..)

 

http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1849665&s=1#i1

 

http://healingchronicskindisorders.blogspot.com/2010/10/about-my-own-folliculitis.html

 

hope these links are helpful..its all about healing the gut and restoring the gut flora..

 

stay strong bro i know its messed up to be having these after you have long gone the acne phase..

Did you notice any side effects from taking accutane?

I have the exact same issue as a lot of you, white pustules on my beard, chin and nose area. I've been to 3 dermatologists who all put me on antibiotics and antibacterial cleansers & shampoos. I've looked through this entire forum post, and tried almost everything. The only thing that works for me is benzoyl peroxide. However, my scalp is also affected by this issue and it itches like crazy. I've lost a lot of my confidence and self esteem during my early college days, and I've gotten to a point where I now have to take antidepressants for both depression and anxiety. I had troubles socializing with people because of how my face looked, and even after I cleared up with BP on my face, I still have agoraphobia to this day. My life has been destroyed, and I still can't entirely get rid of this condition. It wakes me up at night due to the intense itch on my scalp, and I cant apply BP on my scalp unless I decided to go bald. I'm feeling really hopeless, and at one point I wanted to end my life because of this condition and the mental illnesses that it caused me. Right now, especially with whats going on around the world, I'm beginning to get the same feeling as I did then. I don't know what else I can possibly do to get rid of this fcking skin condition.

9 hours ago, whyacnee said:

I have the exact same issue as a lot of you, white pustules on my beard, chin and nose area. I've been to 3 dermatologists who all put me on antibiotics and antibacterial cleansers & shampoos. I've looked through this entire forum post, and tried almost everything. The only thing that works for me is benzoyl peroxide. However, my scalp is also affected by this issue and it itches like crazy. I've lost a lot of my confidence and self esteem during my early college days, and I've gotten to a point where I now have to take antidepressants for both depression and anxiety. I had troubles socializing with people because of how my face looked, and even after I cleared up with BP on my face, I still have agoraphobia to this day. My life has been destroyed, and I still can't entirely get rid of this condition. It wakes me up at night due to the intense itch on my scalp, and I cant apply BP on my scalp unless I decided to go bald. I'm feeling really hopeless, and at one point I wanted to end my life because of this condition and the mental illnesses that it caused me. Right now, especially with whats going on around the world, I'm beginning to get the same feeling as I did then. I don't know what else I can possibly do to get rid of this fcking skin condition.

How did u get this condition?

11 hours ago, whyacnee said:

I have the exact same issue as a lot of you, white pustules on my beard, chin and nose area. I've been to 3 dermatologists who all put me on antibiotics and antibacterial cleansers & shampoos. I've looked through this entire forum post, and tried almost everything. The only thing that works for me is benzoyl peroxide. However, my scalp is also affected by this issue and it itches like crazy. I've lost a lot of my confidence and self esteem during my early college days, and I've gotten to a point where I now have to take antidepressants for both depression and anxiety. I had troubles socializing with people because of how my face looked, and even after I cleared up with BP on my face, I still have agoraphobia to this day. My life has been destroyed, and I still can't entirely get rid of this condition. It wakes me up at night due to the intense itch on my scalp, and I cant apply BP on my scalp unless I decided to go bald. I'm feeling really hopeless, and at one point I wanted to end my life because of this condition and the mental illnesses that it caused me. Right now, especially with whats going on around the world, I'm beginning to get the same feeling as I did then. I don't know what else I can possibly do to get rid of this fcking skin condition.

Itchy skin/scalp is a major sign of microscopic demodex skin mites. Demodex can also cause the skin issues. If the mites get overpopulated they can plug up the pores and cause pustules and papules. The condition is called either demodicosis or Rosacea Subtype 2. A lot of dermatologists miss this because it doesn't always make the skin red like true rosacea. It looks like acne.The fact that the antibiotics didn't work indicates that the problem could be either fungal or demodex.

Make the DIY Borax shampoo. Borax is antimicrobial and is effective against demodex and fungus. For immediate relief for the scalp itching you should be able to get the20 Muleteam Borax powder and apple cider vinegar from a local grocery store today. This really works to soothe the scalp itch. I've used it.

1. Get a box of 20 Muleteam Borax (Powder) - available in most US grocery stores on the laundry aisle. Cost about $5.59 (Kroger, Publix, Walmart, Target, etc. carry it). Recommend also getting a bottle of apple cider vinegar, preferrably organic but regular will do.

2. Mix is 1 tablespoon of 20 Muleteam Borax powder to one cup of hot water. It dissolves better in hot water.

3. Let cool. Pour into a clean bottle like an old shampoo bottle.

4. Use a liberal amount on the scalp like a regular shampoo. The DIY borax shampoo does not produce soap suds. Massage it in the scalp thoroughly like regular shampoo. Leave on while showering. Rinse.

5. Optional but highly recommended to rebalance the hair's ph otherwise it might look a bit limp: Follow the borax shampoo with a very dilute apple cider vinegar rinse. Organic apple cider vinegar rinse is 1/4 cup. vinegar to 3/4 cup water. Make sure you close your eyes, this stuff stings. If you get it in your eyes, rinse the eyes quickly with cold water.

A different option is to get a pre-mixed tea tree oil shampoo and conditioner. Tea tree oil kills the mites.

There is also a 2 week oral drug treatment that will kill demodex skin mites all over the body. This is an anti-parasitic treatment that works only for demodex - but it is cheap and highly effective. The treatment was published in the May 2013 issue of the International Journal of Infectious Disease. The combined 2 drug treatment using Oral Ivermectin and Oral Metronidazole was highly effective at reducing demodex skin mites. The treatment consists of2 once a weekdoses of Oral Ivermectin - dosage based on body weight at 200 micrograms Ivermectin per kilogram of body weight. During the same 2 week period, Oral Metronidazole is taken 3 times daily 250 mg per dose with food. The drugs only kill the adults not the eggs which hatch after about 3 days. First dose of Ivermectin kills the current adult population, the second dose kills the eggs that hatched after the first dose. Oral Metronidazole is also highly effective at killing them. Topical Metronidazole is not effective. Cost of this treatment using generic drugs was just $13.03 with insurance co-pay. Retail price without insurance is about $52. It really works. I used this after many years of being misdiagnosed with bacterial acne. Link to medical study paper is here (Cut and paste link into browser if directly clicking on it doesn't work Or google the title: "Evaluation of the efficacy of oral ivermectin in comparison with ivermectinmetronidazole combined therapy in the treatment of ocular and skin lesions ofDemodex folliculorum": Sometimes clicking on the direct link doesn't work.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S120197121201315X

Some people buy the 1.87% Ivermectin Horse Paste off Amazon instead of the extremely expensive prescription ivermectin cream Soolantra. You can massage this on your face and hair. Soolantra is just 1% ivermectin in a cream base and costs $500 or so per tube. An equivalent amount of horse paste is less than $20.

On 6/21/2020 at 11:39 AM, whyacnee said:

I have the exact same issue as a lot of you, white pustules on my beard, chin and nose area. I've been to 3 dermatologists who all put me on antibiotics and antibacterial cleansers & shampoos. I've looked through this entire forum post, and tried almost everything. The only thing that works for me is benzoyl peroxide. However, my scalp is also affected by this issue and it itches like crazy. I've lost a lot of my confidence and self esteem during my early college days, and I've gotten to a point where I now have to take antidepressants for both depression and anxiety. I had troubles socializing with people because of how my face looked, and even after I cleared up with BP on my face, I still have agoraphobia to this day. My life has been destroyed, and I still can't entirely get rid of this condition. It wakes me up at night due to the intense itch on my scalp, and I cant apply BP on my scalp unless I decided to go bald. I'm feeling really hopeless, and at one point I wanted to end my life because of this condition and the mental illnesses that it caused me. Right now, especially with whats going on around the world, I'm beginning to get the same feeling as I did then. I don't know what else I can possibly do to get rid of this fcking skin condition.

Omgggg me too ! I get pustules on my scalp too but pretty much lessen. I think cold weather and avoiding too much sweating really helped my situation. I also have it on my back and chest area

Have you guys tried taking niacinamide oral supplement for your pustules ?

For scalp acne and itchy scalp: try the Borax Shampoo + Diluted Apple Cider Vinegar Rinse. You can also use the DIY Borax Shampoo to wash your face. It really works.

For Body Acne and Itchy skin, use the warm bath soak with Borax powder and epsom salts. It really works.

DIY Borax Shampoo: 1 Tablespoon 20 Muleteam Borax Powder per cup of hot water (to dissolve). Let cool put in a cleanshampoo bottle or other container. It doesn't produce suds but use it generously just like regular shampooand massage scalp and hair thoroughly. Let stay on hair while showering then rinse. Follow with the Apple Cider Vinegar rinse to re-balance the pHof your hair.

DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Rinse: 1/4 cup apple cider vinegar + 3/4 cup water. Mix. Put in acleanshampoo bottle or other container. Close your eyes while using this - it stings the eyes. If you get it in your eyes, rinse them quickly with cold water.

Borax Epsom Bath Soak: For Body Acne and Itchy skin: Soak 30 minutes in a pleasantly warm bath with 1 cup 20 Muleteam Borax Powder and 1 cup Dr. Teals Moisturizing Epsom Salts (I'm told the Equate Epsom salts work as well). Swish the water to mix the powders. The one cup each is the right amount for a standard 5 foot bathtub.

Borax is a well known anti-microbial substance. It kills demodex skin mites and many types of fungus. OB/GYN Doctors have recommended the Borax soak to patients with yeast infections for over 30 years. It works.

20 Muleteam Borax Powder is available in most grocery stores in the laundry products aisle. Its about $5.59 per box. The Apple Cider Vinegar is available with vinegar in most grocery stores. Organic is best, but any type of ACV will work.

Microscopic Demodex skin mites are extremely common. They can get overpopulated when your immune system is low. The mitescan cause numerous acne like skin issues all over the body. The mitescan also make your skin and scalp itch really badly. The borax shampoo and bath soak can really help reduce the population and stopthe intense itching.

For everyone here that suffer from white pustules on nose/chin/beard, I wrote a couple of times here that this is possibly staph bacteria and the solution is just to apply bactroban inside nostrilsand ears to decolonize the bacteria from your bodyfor about 10-14 days, it's that easy!

I haven't done that personally although I suffer from the same problem,because:

1) I didn't want to use antibiotics

2) spend money on dermatologist in order to get the prescription

3) I know there is natural way to fix the issue

So, I found a couple of studies that claim how tee tree oil is very effective against staph, perhaps even more than bactroban, so I decided to try it out. Of course, the trick is not to apply the oil directly on your active infections because they last just for a couple of days and won't solve anything, but inside nostrils and ears if you want to get rid of it for good. I ordered diluted tee tree and started applying it 3 times a day everywhere inside nostrils and gentlydeep inside ears with cotton swabs (Never ever use pure tee tree oil as it is very strong and you would probably start bleeding - just diluted in some other oil, I personally usedEdens Garden Tea Tree Essential Oil Roll On 10ml ,which is diluted in coconut oil, keep in mind that one 10mlbottle would just last for around 5-6 days ).

So 10 days later and my skin looks so much better, there are 0 active infections in the last 5 days, my dry skin does not flakeany more, or at least significantly less that I can't even notice.Can't wait 10 more days to pass to see if it's going to improve more. This is really promising guys.

50 minutes ago, UnkemptGround said:

For everyone here that suffer from white pustules on nose/chin/beard, I wrote a couple of times here that this is possibly staph bacteria and the solution is just to apply bactroban inside nostrils and ears to decolonize the bacteria from your body for about 10-14 days, it's that easy!

I haven't done that personally although I suffer from the same problem, because:

1) I didn't want to use antibiotics 

2) spend money on dermatologist in order to get the prescription

3) I know there is natural way to fix the issue

 

So, I found a couple of studies that claim how tee tree oil is very effective against staph, perhaps even more than bactroban, so I decided to try it out. Of course, the trick is not to apply the oil directly on your active infections because they last just for a couple of days and won't solve anything, but inside nostrils and ears if you want to get rid of it for good. I ordered diluted tee tree and started applying it 3 times a day everywhere inside nostrils and gently deep inside ears with cotton swabs (Never ever use pure tee tree oil as it is very strong and you would probably start bleeding - just diluted in some other oil, I personally used Edens Garden Tea Tree Essential Oil Roll On 10ml , which is diluted in coconut oil, keep in mind that one 10ml bottle would just last for around 5-6 days ).

 

So 10 days later and my skin looks so much better, there are 0 active infections in the last 5 days, my dry skin does not flake any more, or at least significantly less that I can't even notice. Can't wait 10 more days to pass to see if it's going to improve more. This is really promising guys.

I've tried the bactroban for two week spreaded it around my nose and ears but i still get pustules around my mouth. I'll try the tea tree oil. I think mine is stress or hormonal related since i get alot of pustules when stressed out

25 minutes ago, bachoy97 said:

I've tried the bactroban for two week spreaded it around my nose and ears but i still get pustules around my mouth. I'll try the tea tree oil. I think mine is stress or hormonal related since i get alot of pustules when stressed out

I hope you meant inside your nose

 Give tee tree oil around 10 days to see if there's any difference, in the first 5 I didn't see much difference. Sorry for repeating, but please be careful and not under any circumstances use pure tee tree, as I don't want to be responsible for someone destroying the skin. There are many diluted options on the amazon, or you can dilute it yourself if you find a good tutorial but I think that already diluted is much safer option.

It could be very well be the stress in your case. Typically stress and food sensitivities(dairy, gluten, eggs, nuts, soy) in people with weakened immune system trigger inflammatory immune response and we end up with this zits. Just eliminating this bacteria from our bodies is not the solution because it could come back. I have for sure weakened immune system so I'm trying to address it at the same time, but it could take months or years...

Basically, if you want to have clear skin in a month, just eat meat and nothing else - that way you'll avoid immune response, but just small number of people can thrive on such diet. 
If you are considering doing a blood test, make sure to check for TSH hormone level, which will tell you if your thyroid works fine. In my case it was very high, it might be a connection there...

5 hours ago, UnkemptGround said:

I hope you meant inside your nose

 Give tee tree oil around 10 days to see if there's any difference, in the first 5 I didn't see much difference. Sorry for repeating, but please be careful and not under any circumstances use pure tee tree, as I don't want to be responsible for someone destroying the skin. There are many diluted options on the amazon, or you can dilute it yourself if you find a good tutorial but I think that already diluted is much safer option.

It could be very well be the stress in your case. Typically stress and food sensitivities(dairy, gluten, eggs, nuts, soy) in people with weakened immune system trigger inflammatory immune response and we end up with this zits. Just eliminating this bacteria from our bodies is not the solution because it could come back. I have for sure weakened immune system so I'm trying to address it at the same time, but it could take months or years...

Basically, if you want to have clear skin in a month, just eat meat and nothing else - that way you'll avoid immune response, but just small number of people can thrive on such diet. 
If you are considering doing a blood test, make sure to check for TSH hormone level, which will tell you if your thyroid works fine. In my case it was very high, it might be a connection there...

I meant inside my nose. English is not my first language. Sorry for confusing you with my words. I had a thyroid test last year and it came back normal. I feel like it's also stress related because i was diagnosed with depression and OCD and took medications. I think my immune system is weak because of stress...

To get rid of this initially You need to cut out all sugar (including fruit),caffeine, dairy and alcohol.

you will see results in 1 week.

this is an internal problem nothing you put on topically will get rid of it. I can get into specifics as to why later.

if you want proof go get a lipid panel done. All of you with this condition will have an abnormal lipid profile, elevated cholesterol and triglycerides.

meat & fiber meals. Brown rice, pulse/bean pasta, beans, vegetables, psyllium,Nuts (not peanuts).

cardio 15-30 min a day to where you are sweating to clean out pores and move the lymphatic fluid (which is what those pustules are, along with cholesterol).

eventually you will need to complete a fruit (apple fast) 3-7 day cycles thengo back to eating normally as above in between cycles. These fastsflush toxic bile,lymph and pathogens from the system.

So it looks like that Tee Tree Oil is not a cure for me after all, after stopped using it these white boils came back very quickly.

15 hours ago, TidyMisogyny said:

To get rid of this initially You need to cut out all sugar (including fruit), caffeine, dairy and alcohol.

you will see results in 1 week.

this is an internal problem nothing you put on topically will get rid of it. I can get into specifics as to why later.

 

if you want proof go get a lipid panel done. All of you with this condition will have an abnormal lipid profile, elevated cholesterol and triglycerides.

meat & fiber meals. Brown rice, pulse/bean pasta, beans, vegetables, psyllium, Nuts (not peanuts). 
 

cardio 15-30 min a day to where you are sweating to clean out pores and move the lymphatic fluid (which is what those pustules are, along with cholesterol).

 

eventually you will need to complete a fruit (apple fast) 3-7 day cycles then go back to eating normally as above in between cycles. These fasts flush toxic bile, lymph and pathogens from the system. 

Oh man, why didn't you write that a week ago?  I started a meat only diet a week ago again, and if I knew about this theory I would certainly do a blood test to compare the lipid profile with a one I'll have on a meat diet after a month or two. Your theory makes sense: meat only diet keeps my skin completely clear which I tested a bunch of times.

Have you been able to eradicate this issue completely so you don't have any breakouts when eating forbidden food ?

edit: So I found my old lipid status results from 5 years ago when I went first to investigate whats wrong with me, it is actually perfect, nothing is elevated, and I also had these boils at that time.

On 7/10/2020 at 4:51 PM, UnkemptGround said:

So it looks like that Tee Tree Oil is not a cure for me after all, after stopped using it these white boils came back very quickly.

 

Oh man, why didn't you write that a week ago?  I started a meat only diet a week ago again, and if I knew about this theory I would certainly do a blood test to compare the lipid profile with a one I'll have on a meat diet after a month or two. Your theory makes sense: meat only diet keeps my skin completely clear which I tested a bunch of times.

Have you been able to eradicate this issue completely so you don't have any breakouts when eating forbidden food ?

 

edit: So I found my old lipid status results from 5 years ago when I went first to investigate whats wrong with me, it is actually perfect, nothing is elevated, and I also had these boils at that time.

At my worst my cholesterol was 6.1 and crp very high. Also just because you are in range for a lab doesn™t mean you have perfect lipids. What were your results specifically?

And yeah I can eat whatever I want but only do it once a week. 
 

Ive seen posts many times here about fiber, diet etc. when I had this issue and lurking. I tried it out and it™s the only thing that actually worked for me.

Antibiotics also worked but it was always temporary and the pustules would come back 2-3x worse. I also tried oral antifungals and they had no effect.  

For me Meat only diet is torture. It works for clearing these pustules but it doesn™t fix the underlying problem. You need low sugar complex carbs and fiber. I know it sounds hippie I thought diet/lifestyle had nothing to do with it but after I tried this for myself it has 100% to do with it.

Hi Folks,

im being treated for SIBO atm. I can say that the low FODMAP diet in conjunction with the use of herbal anti microbials clears me 99% while being on this.

i dont know what happens once this is discontinued and moving on to a regular diet again, but will keep youupdated.

SIBO is known to have links to skin diseases, so theres a chance its also causing our pustular outbreaks.

If youll have a look at the YouTuber Vegetable Conspiracies he appears to be also suffering from the same condition while also being apparently diagnosed with gut disorders.
Sibo and this might only be a correlation but still worth looking into it.

best

On 7/15/2020 at 8:59 PM, TidyMisogyny said:

At myworst my cholesterol was 6.1 and crp very high. Also just because you are in range for a lab doesnt mean you have perfect lipids. What were your results specifically?

Cholesterol on my blood test was 3.64 ( It says that up to 5.2 is in withinrange)

Triglycerides are 0.54 (It says that up to 1.7 is within range)

As I said, these are from 5 years ago when I had the exact same issues as I have today.

CRP also normal.

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And yeah I can eat whatever I want but only do it once a week.

Ive seen posts many times here about fiber, diet etc. when I had this issue and lurking. I tried it out and its the only thing that actually worked for me.

Antibiotics also worked but it was always temporary and the pustules would come back 2-3x worse. I also tried oral antifungals and they had no effect.

 

Same here, antibiotics also cleared me out and than everything cameback.

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For me Meat only diet is torture. It works for clearing these pustules but it doesnt fix the underlying problem. You need low sugar complex carbs and fiber. I know it sounds hippie I thought diet/lifestyle had nothing to do with it but after I tried this for myself it has 100% to do with it.

Agree again - meat only is torture. I gave up shortly after I wrote my previousmessage here, I simply can't eat the same food over and over again. I mainly eat what I nowconsider safe besides meat - avocados, chia seeds, tomatoes, peppers, carrots, cucumbers, onion.So far, nothing has changed compared to meat only diet in my case, still no pustules.

So basically, you would go on a restricted diet for a week, and then eat just apples for 3 days straight and then go again on a restricted diet ? For how many cycles ?

On 7/17/2020 at 10:08 PM, UnkemptGround said:

Cholesterol on my blood test was 3.64 ( It says that up to 5.2 is in withinrange)

Triglycerides are 0.54 (It says that up to 1.7 is within range)

As I said, these are from 5 years ago when I had the exact same issues as I have today.

CRP also normal.

Same here, antibiotics also cleared me out and than everything cameback.

 

Agree again - meat only is torture. I gave up shortly after I wrote my previousmessage here, I simply can't eat the same food over and over again. I mainly eat what I nowconsider safe besides meat - avocados, chia seeds, tomatoes, peppers, carrots, cucumbers, onion.So far, nothing has changed compared to meat only diet in my case, still no pustules.

 

So basically, you would go on a restricted diet for a week, and then eat just apples for 3 days straight and then go again on a restricted diet ? For how many cycles ?

 

Idk how long it will take for you but for meIt took a week for everything to clear up.biggest thing to avoid is sugar. Even from fruit. Then all sources of caffeine including black tea green tea etc. Only temporary.. but its the most important ones.

you might still be able to see improvement keeping things like pasta, rice, potatoes, dairyetc if you enjoy eating them. Just test it for yourself. Watch the sugar. I cantstress this enough.

the less you can restrict yourself and get away with it the better so I would just start with sugar and caffeine.

I'm currently following the no sugar and dairy diet for almost 2 weeks and i'm seeing good results. My pustules are lessen. I'm currently taking zinc supplement (50mg) (zinc broke me out like a week). I only just drink water. I feel like mine is really hormonal related or stress related. I'm going to try DIM supplement soon. It was really depressing at first because i like to eat chips(cheese flavor) or anything with dairy with coke or sweet drinks. Btw my scalp is really itchy when i'm very stressed or the weather is very hot. (I saw someone posted about itchy scalp)

Are you guys stupid? Are you not able to go through post history and see that so many of us solved this problem by applying chlorhexidine solution in nose for 1 week and then benzoyl peroxide on pustules as maintenance.

Please go through post history and read the comments from 2 to 3 years ago. I resolved my chin pustules this way.

On 6/20/2020 at 11:39 PM, whyacnee said:

I have the exact same issue as a lot of you, white pustules on my beard, chin and nose area. I've been to 3 dermatologists who all put me on antibiotics and antibacterial cleansers & shampoos. I've looked through this entire forum post, and tried almost everything. The only thing that works for me is benzoyl peroxide. However, my scalp is also affected by this issue and it itches like crazy. I've lost a lot of my confidence and self esteem during my early college days, and I've gotten to a point where I now have to take antidepressants for both depression and anxiety. I had troubles socializing with people because of how my face looked, and even after I cleared up with BP on my face, I still have agoraphobia to this day. My life has been destroyed, and I still can't entirely get rid of this condition. It wakes me up at night due to the intense itch on my scalp, and I cant apply BP on my scalp unless I decided to go bald. I'm feeling really hopeless, and at one point I wanted to end my life because of this condition and the mental illnesses that it caused me. Right now, especially with whats going on around the world, I'm beginning to get the same feeling as I did then. I don't know what else I can possibly do to get rid of this fcking skin condition.

For your scalp, get clean and clears benzoyl peroxide wash and use that instead. Wet your hair before shower and leave it on for 5min. Then wash it off. Do this for 2 weeks till pustules are gone then do it twice a week as maintenance.

If that doesn't work, get some povidone iodine and add a couple of drops with your daily shampoo and apply it to your head for 2 weeks. Should solve the problem.

On 5/7/2020 at 1:50 PM, PhilanthropeImberbe said:

Hey, guys, I'm coming back with some promising information.I went to see my doctor and he confirmed what I saw on this post and on different internet sources.

Many of us suffer from a staphylococcus infection, this very resistant and inflammatory bacterium is lodged inside the nose but also in the ears. It is very contagious and develops on bedding and also on bath towels.

To get rid ofit it's necessary to use different topical products such as mupirocin or face washwith chlorexidine (Hibiclens).

I know what it's like, guys, waking up every day with white pimples that strangely always show up in the same places, it's really depressing...

I'll come back to this topic if I have any conclusive results...
good luck to all

 

This is exactly what it is and what a lot of us discovered on this forum 2 years ago. Unfortunately, it seems like people haven't bothered going through this posts history to see what worked for others.

On 5/12/2020 at 2:04 PM, PhilanthropeImberbe said:

The mupirocin-based treatment lasts a maximum of 15 days, which seems to be the period necessary to kill the bacteria lodged in the nose and ears for good.

In my opinion, staph infection finds its refuge in the nose and ears. It will then spread to the face and create bacterial folliculitis and will therefore infect the hairy areas around the mouth and nose.

The skin to defend itself against the bacteria will create this oil because it seems that the staphylococcus dries out the skin or acts on it in some way.

The BP wash is just a boost to get rid of the remaining bacteria on the face, and it is also a very good topical product if used with care (see BP contact therapy on google).

It all depends on your symptoms, but if your whiteheads turn into a honey crust then it's called impetigo, caused by staph.

If you simply have whiteheads around your mouth that don't turn into a crust but into a red scar, then it's bacterial folliculitis, again caused by staph.

I'm not a doctor, but after long hours of research and testing, I'm convinced of what I'm saying.

Another avenue to explore is fungal acne, which can be treated with topical products such as sulfur, zinc, or topical prescription treatments.

I've long thought I had fungal acne, and a corrupted immune system, so I've really been working on my diet with the idea of repairing my intestines.

It helps, but mupirocin is really the boost I've been waiting for.

Use chlorhexidine solution instead of mupirocin. Works better at killing staph and there are no resistance issues. However, it should only be applied for 10min max before being cleaned out with water.

Search for articles by @healthyalmondswho goes into details and was the first one on here to discover staph related pustules which almost all of us suffer from.

Once you kill all the staph inside your nose, you'll need BP to get rid of it on your face.

On 8/12/2018 at 1:32 AM, silverlight22 said:

Guys,

I really think you should try what has worked for me,@Canucklehead12and @UnusualClubwhich is Benzoyl Peroxide.

I know some of you have tried it in the past and it didn't work. However, the first step is to eliminate the source of this bacteria which are your nostrils. Gram negative and positive bacteria including staph grows in your nostrils.

Simply clean them with hibiclens for 30 secs using a Q tip for 3 to 5 days. Also apply hibiclens to your face for 2min. Hibiclens is a microbial and kills gram positive bacteria like staph.

Start using BP wash or lotion at the same time which will ensure the bacteria does not breed on your skin anymore. I used BP first as spot treatment and saw difference overnight. Then used it all over my chin mouth and nose and thats it. I only use it on my problem areas.

After using hibiclens on your face, i used povidone iodine for the next 5 days. Povidone Iodine is another antimicrobial which kills gram negative bacteria. This way you ensure youve removed gram neg using iodine and gram positive using hibiclens. Meanwhile by using BP everyday, you ensure bacteria doesn't return to cause these pustules.

Moisturize everyday. It will help. Try this routine and it'll help in 2 weeks or less. I used to think diet affects my acne. Tbh, it does, but only when these bacterias are active on your face, they feed on sugar fructose etc that you eat and multiply. Once you remove these bacterias, you can start eating anything again.

This is my comment from 2 years ago. This is what cured me. I had it from 2007 to 2018.

Remember. Leave chlorhexidine (hibiclens) in your nose for 5 to 7 minutes. Then flush it out with water. Same with povidone iodine.

For BP, I started off with benzagel 2.5% only on mouth and problemareas and would leave it on all day (never applied on cheeks as they're really sensitive to BP and can burn). Now I use acne.orgs BP2.5% and moisturize after 10minutes. However, when I first started, I was leaving it on all day as I wanted to cure myself asap and was worried it would come back even after I had healed. It took me 2 years to only leave it on for 10minutes.

I read through other comments which say simpleskincarescience.com is not useful. To be honest, he has a lot of useful content but his page is aimed towards fungal acne. You can develop fungal acne by overusing benzoyl peroxide and then you'll end up need antifungal stuff to get rid of it. So be careful with BP. Use it all day till the problem is fully gone and then only for 10min and apply moisturizer right after which deactivates it or even just wash it off.

Also dont forget to check [Removed mention] content on understanding how to apply chlorhexidine into your nose.

Hi all,

It's been a long time since I came here.

I didn't have the courage to read all the pages that I missed. However, I have an advice for you : a few months ago, I came across an article promoting the La Roche-Posay (a L'Oreal brand) products against eczema. These products are the "Lipikar AP Baume" and the "Syndet AP cleanse gel". And these two products also seem VERY useful against folliculitis !

Why ? Because they contain a bacteria named "Vitreoscilla filiformis" which studies have shown to favorably modifying our skin flora, in particular by reducing the number of Staphilococcus aureus (cause of eczema but also often folliculitis). In a simple way : itnormalizes skin microbiota. Indeed, our skin problems come from a modification of our skin flora (it becomes too diverse). Vitreoscilla filiformis thus stimulates the production of good bacteria and also the "expression of antimicrobial peptides in the skin". Furthermore, these products are VERY hydrating.

You can read a study about this innovation here : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5238811/

Since I use it, my skin is far far better. Combined withbenzoyl peroxide and/or essential oil, you'll have big improvment, believe me. It's a french company so I hope youcan find it easely on your country...

That said, I continue to think that our problem come from a deeper probleme : our gut permeability and microflora. In France, we have a doctor named Dr. Donatini who developped a really promising approach. According to him, all our problems are linked to immune problems that find their cause in our intestinal flora. Thats why many of ushave intestinal problems (like SIBO or IBS)and skin at the same time (like @Benbenzersaid). A naturopath trained by this doctor prescribed me a useful protocol for two months : oregano essential oil pill, lactoferrin, diet without FODMAP etc.

I also continue to believe that Medical Medium is on a good way. Every day I read fabulous stories on instagram about people suffering from acne, eczema and other heavy desorder healed thanks to its protocl (notably celery juice wich helps your stomach by increasing the level of Hydrochloric acid). Also "spiritual" approach can be useful. Our spirit have a huge influence on our body...

Low glycemic diet is also a good way to limit the bumps. Also "lactofferinn" is a usefull supplement according to some studies concerning acne (it limits the amount ofsebum on your skin and killspathogenicbacterias by preventing them from dropping iron).

On 8/15/2020 at 1:23 PM, Dsophobe said:

Hi all,

It's been a long time since I came here.

I didn't have the courage to read all the pages that I missed. However, I have an advice for you : a few months ago, I came across an article promoting the La Roche-Posay (a L'Oreal brand) products against eczema. These products are the "Lipikar AP Baume" and the "Syndet AP cleanse gel". And these two products also seem VERY useful against folliculitis !

Why ? Because they contain a bacteria named "Vitreoscilla filiformis" which studies have shown to favorably modifying our skin flora, in particular by reducing the number of Staphilococcus aureus (cause of eczema but also often folliculitis). In a simple way : itnormalizes skin microbiota. Indeed, our skin problems come from a modification of our skin flora (it becomes too diverse). Vitreoscilla filiformis thus stimulates the production of good bacteria and also the "expression of antimicrobial peptides in the skin". Furthermore, these products are VERY hydrating.

You can read a study about this innovation here : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5238811/

Since I use it, my skin is far far better. Combined withbenzoyl peroxide and/or essential oil, you'll have big improvment, believe me. It's a french company so I hope youcan find it easely on your country...

 

That said, I continue to think that our problem come from a deeper probleme : our gut permeability and microflora. In France, we have a doctor named Dr. Donatini who developped a really promising approach. According to him, all our problems are linked to immune problems that find their cause in our intestinal flora. Thats why many of ushave intestinal problems (like SIBO or IBS)and skin at the same time (like @Benbenzersaid). A naturopath trained by this doctor prescribed me a useful protocol for two months : oregano essential oil pill, lactoferrin, diet without FODMAP etc.

I also continue to believe that Medical Medium is on a good way. Every day I read fabulous stories on instagram about people suffering from acne, eczema and other heavy desorder healed thanks to its protocl (notably celery juice wich helps your stomach by increasing the level of Hydrochloric acid). Also "spiritual" approach can be useful. Our spirit have a huge influence on our body...

Low glycemic diet is also a good way to limit the bumps. Also "lactofferinn" is a usefull supplement according to some studies concerning acne (it limits the amount ofsebum on your skin and killspathogenicbacterias by preventing them from dropping iron).

 

 

Posts like these are the reason why peoplekeep dealing with this problem. You literally didn't even read the treatment I used which worked for many of us 2 years ago and are back to level 1 with all the talk about glycemic index food, diet and all that stuff, which is where we started 4 years ago.

I like your vitreoscilla bacteria comment but first let's get to a point where people can get rid of pustules using the method I mentioned in my last comment and then you can focus on the rest.