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19 hours ago, eblackjohny said:Ok
What salt did u use? How are u now?
now 2 weeks clear
no more break out
I am using Hamalya salt
no dairy
I ate rice with meat 3 times now
still sweetie blocking
some times I take probaiotic
still fine no break out
12 hours ago, elkhalde said:now 2 weeks clear
no more break out
I am using Hamalya salt
no dairy
I ate rice with meat 3 times now
still sweetie blocking
some times I take probaiotic
still fine no break out
What's your complete regimen. Can u please elaborate. I'm a bit confused.
3 hours ago, Thisisused said:Do you guys get acne elsewhere too? I also get acne on my scalp, shouldersand back. Not as aggressive or noticeable as my face but it's still there.
Yes do get THIS TYPE of acne on my scalp and at times b/w my eyebrows and obviously around the mouth.
On 2/16/2020 at 9:46 AM, Thisisused said:Do you guys get acne elsewhere too? I also get acne on my scalp, shouldersand back. Not as aggressive or noticeable as my face but it's still there.
I also get these pustules on my scalp. I haven't applied BP on my scalp because it can get messy pretty quickly. While my mouth, chin and nose area has been cleared, I've been developing deep pustules on my cheeks because I sleep on my side a lot; I'm assuming that my pillow is filled with staph bacteria that is infecting my cheeks. Once I start sleeping on my back again, I don't develop any more of them. However, I still have the dark marks and scars from fighting this battle. I may have to start using BP on my scalp now. This is getting ridiculous.
On 2/21/2020 at 7:30 AM, StaphAcne said:I also get these pustules on my scalp. I haven't applied BP on my scalp because it can get messy pretty quickly. While my mouth, chin and nose area has been cleared, I've been developing deep pustules on my cheeks because I sleep on my side a lot; I'm assuming that my pillow is filled with staph bacteria that is infecting my cheeks. Once I start sleeping on my back again, I don't develop any more of them. However, I still have the dark marks and scars from fighting this battle. I may have to start using BP on my scalp now. This is getting ridiculous.
I generally don't worry about the pustles on my head. If they can't be seen I'm fine with them.
On 2/15/2020 at 6:56 AM, rebelheart said:What's your complete regimen. Can u please elaborate. I'm a bit confused.
sugar free dairy free
carbs free
Keto regimen
Because of 5 years before I am in salt free meals and water free salt
I destroyed my Gut and stomach by salt free meals
effect was
zeroHydrochloric
Its means All bacteriawill live in my stomach
so I had
candida andHelicobacter pylori
now H.pylori free
but still fighting with candida
On 2/28/2020 at 12:21 PM, elkhalde said:sugar free dairy free
carbs free
Keto regimen
Because of 5 years before I am in salt free meals and water free salt
I destroyed my Gut and stomach by salt free meals
effect was
zeroHydrochloric
Its means All bacteriawill live in my stomach
so I had
candida andHelicobacter pylori
now H.pylori free
but still fighting with candida
Oh, So you are completely clear without applying any cream or shampoo? Like the change has come from within the body?
On 2/28/2020 at 2:19 PM, Thisisused said:I started taking probiotics and using BP again and my skin is agony at the moment... maybe the worst breakout I've ever had! Any suggestions guys? Should I stop the probiotic and BP? I'm also moisturising and exfoliating... help
Going to get stricter with my diet.
If I'm dairy free am I still able to have lactose free products? I'm also going to cut gluten, although I read that glueten has no connection with acne.
I go to the gym regularly and I'm trying to build muscle making all these dietary restrictions very difficult when trying to consume more calories. And no, I don't take steroids.
Going to eliminate my Whey protien and switch to a pea or a beef protien.
On 3/5/2020 at 11:01 AM, elkhalde said:I am totally free
without cream or shampoo
it is Gut issue
Yes, I thought so. Cause ever since this condition has got hold of me, my digestive system has gone completely off track. Excessive bloating, gas, uneven stool texture and what not. And on the days when my stomach isnormal, my skin gets better too. Tomy bad, no Dr. has been able to diagonse the exact condition. Still tryin to find the main culprit behind all this.
45 minutes ago, rebelheart said:Yes, I thought so. Cause ever since this condition has got hold of me, my digestive system has gone completely off track. Excessive bloating, gas, uneven stool texture and what not. And on the days when my stomach isnormal, my skin gets better too. Tomy bad, no Dr. has been able to diagonse the exact condition. Still tryin to find the main culprit behind all this.
I had exactly the same issues with digestion. Plus heartburns quite often when eating pastry. Ichecked pretty much all hormone levels you can think of, then all of the minerals(calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium...), found nodeficiencies, everything within the range.
Then I read somewhere that it could be a thyroid problem, I remembered that's the only thing that I didn't test for, so I went for it. That's when I found that I do have a thyroid problem, so if you have identical symptoms please do a blood test for the following things:
TSH - hormone
Anti TG At - antibodies
Anti TPO At - antibodies
When you have those outside of normal range, the condition is calledhashimoto's thyroiditis, and that's probably a time to visitendocrinologist. It's interesting, but the studies show that in order for hashimoto to develop, typically a prerequisite is a leaky gut among other things, and the people that have this condition also have a variety of gut problems(low stomach acid as well, that's whatelkhalde described inposts).
It's interesting, but I have managed to cure pretty much all of digestion issues with probiotics. No more gases, no more heartburns which is really really appreciated. However, the skin issues still persist, very dry and dehydratedsensitive skin with very oily t-zone, along with those white zits.
Anyway, I had a hunch recently that it is possible that all myissues are somehow connected to the mold. Hear me out: when I was younger, I lived in a very unhealthy conditions, was sick quite often and developed asthma. We were poor and didn't renovate the house for years, so the mold came up on the ceiling directly above my bed, and it was present for years. So, I started having symptoms of a cold almost every day(nose, coughing). After that it came asthma, I had asthma attacks every few hours. Later, I learned that, I didn't have a cold when I wentout of town for a few days, and would immediately get it when come back. The asthma thing didn't go away. Anyway, I left the house to go to study in another city, and after 2-3 months, the asthma was completely gone.
Recently I learned, what I described right here, is a text book example of mold toxicity, and that prolonged exposure to mold toxins can fuck you up in so many ways, destroying the gut as well. Perhaps there's no hope for me to recover from all the damage, but starting today I'll be following an anti-mold diet and taking mold detox medicine to try to get it out of my system.
On 3/6/2020 at 3:48 PM, UnkemptGround said:I had exactly the same issues with digestion. Plus heartburns quite often when eating pastry. Ichecked pretty much all hormone levels you can think of, then all of the minerals(calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium...), found nodeficiencies, everything within the range.
Then I read somewhere that it could be a thyroid problem, I remembered that's the only thing that I didn't test for, so I went for it. That's when I found that I do have a thyroid problem, so if you have identical symptoms please do a blood test for the following things:
TSH - hormone
Anti TG At - antibodies
Anti TPO At - antibodiesWhen you have those outside of normal range, the condition is calledhashimoto's thyroiditis, and that's probably a time to visitendocrinologist. It's interesting, but the studies show that in order for hashimoto to develop, typically a prerequisite is a leaky gut among other things, and the people that have this condition also have a variety of gut problems(low stomach acid as well, that's whatelkhalde described inposts).
It's interesting, but I have managed to cure pretty much all of digestion issues with probiotics. No more gases, no more heartburns which is really really appreciated. However, the skin issues still persist, very dry and dehydratedsensitive skin with very oily t-zone, along with those white zits.
Anyway, I had a hunch recently that it is possible that all myissues are somehow connected to the mold. Hear me out: when I was younger, I lived in a very unhealthy conditions, was sick quite often and developed asthma. We were poor and didn't renovate the house for years, so the mold came up on the ceiling directly above my bed, and it was present for years. So, I started having symptoms of a cold almost every day(nose, coughing). After that it came asthma, I had asthma attacks every few hours. Later, I learned that, I didn't have a cold when I wentout of town for a few days, and would immediately get it when come back. The asthma thing didn't go away. Anyway, I left the house to go to study in another city, and after 2-3 months, the asthma was completely gone.
Recently I learned, what I described right here, is a text book example of mold toxicity, and that prolonged exposure to mold toxins can fuck you up in so many ways, destroying the gut as well. Perhaps there's no hope for me to recover from all the damage, but starting today I'll be following an anti-mold diet and taking mold detox medicine to try to get it out of my system.
I don't think it's because of the mold. Gut dysbiosis seems to be the only cause. We must have lost certain species of bacteria which has caused all this.
5 hours ago, rebelheart said:I don't think it's because of the mold. Gut dysbiosis seems to be the only cause. We must have lost certain species of bacteria which has caused all this.
Yes, butthere must be a reason for gut dysbiosis, it won't happen all of sudden in a healthy person. There can be a variety of reasons, such as antibiotics and mold exposure. Read this:
QuoteLevels of mold toxins that can negatively affect the gut microflora (microbiome) are likely 100s or even thousands of times lower than mycotoxin levels required to directly cause mold related illnesses by toxic impact on human organs/cells. Therefore gut related problems from mold toxin exposure can be particularly common.The principal route of exposure from breathing mold toxins is via the gut and not the lungs. Subsequently, a common result of elevated mycotoxin exposure is damage to gut microflora.
Only until recently I thought that antibiotics caused my gut issues, and then I remembered that I didn't take a lot actually, but I was constantly exposed to mold for a few years and had a bunch of mold related issues(allergy, asthma).
I have this pustules/papulesaround nose and mouth from almost 3-4 years it s hard to find root cause.
I tried creams, shampons and diet. No bread, no dairy, no vegetables, no fruits and sugar, no meat. one at time of course.
The best one i think it s no meds no creama no derm shampo. Only meat diet and alot of sport.
Sorry for bad eng.
Guys you should try to change you pillow case every two days and if you have very old pillows, change it also. I woke up with morning with dried pustules after i changed my pillow to a new one and new pillow case. I'm also using Kati Alis Bar Soap (Contains Sulfur, Zinc and Salicylic acid) I Leave it for 2 mins. I only use it in the morning and Night. No active pustules today. Btw used that bar soap in the past but no effect. Only when i changed my pillows and cases. I'm also taking Conzace and Vitamin D3 supplements. Also drinking water with chia seeds these past few days.
Hi everyone I hope someone can help me and answer me because I have the same condition and I can't get out of it...
Does anyone finally have the answer to this problem?
Is it related to the intestines and a compromised immune system or is it a staphylococcus aureus infection in the nose that gives acne?
Please someone who has solved this problem effectively can enlighten me on this condition...?
Hey guys,
I'm glad to have come across this thread because for the longest time I thought I was the only person afflicted with this particular condition. I've spent the last 4 years trying to get to the bottom of it and underwent all kinds of treatment (everything from antibiotics to diet restrictions) and unfortunately nothing has cured it. I have learned a little bit about what exactly it is and how to minimize the breakouts so I will be sharing my story.
I always had acne growing up. My skin is naturally oily so that coupled with hormonal developments in adolescence caused lead to manybreakouts throughout my teenage years. That pretty much went away by the time I started college with a few rare pimples here and there, it was something I could live with. However, it wasn't until my third year in university did it start appearing more frequently on my chin. It was evenly spread out on the tip of my chin and the pustules would arise very often, almost every other day. It had a strange feeling unlike the kind of acne I was used to growing up. It had a slight itch to it, and tugged at my skin like it was begging to be touched or scratched. It was unusual but I never paid much attention to it because I thought it was hormonal and that it would eventually go away. It persisted throughout the rest of my time in college. It wasn't until the 4th year of universitydid I notice a new area of breakouts on the right side of my cheek. It, too, started experiencing frequent pustules and pimples in the same areas of particular part that samecheek. It became apparent to me that this wasn't the normal kind of acne so I decided to see a dermatologist. To my dismay, she said it was probably hormonal and prescribed topical tretinoin and BP. Like you all know, these treatments only dried the pustule up and reduced the redness but never cured the issue. So I stopped using them because I was positive the issue wasn't hormonal.
I decided to start writing in a journal everything I did and everything I ate for a year and noted whenever there was a new pustule and in what area. After much trial and error, and the most restrictive/healthy diet you can imagine I realized that the pustules/pimples correlated with the amount of physical activity I did that particular day. I tested this again by going few weeks without much exercise/physical activity and the pustules died down dramatically. I even remember staying home for a few months longer just to test it out and it was completely gone. But whenever I venture outside of my house, even if it's just to go get groceries, it would come back again.I was originally exercising every other day doing cardio and weightlifting. The exercise was never extreme so this shocked me. This made me think there was something wrong internally (overworked organ or distressed digestive system?). So I didall kinds of physical tests (hormonal included) and everything turned out normal. Everything was well within healthy range for my age. I even went to see a stomach doctor to test for H Pylori and have my upper and lower GI tracts tested out. Everything was fine. Did a SIBO test and still nothing.
I was pretty demoralized after all that investigation with zero insight into what might be causing this. So I decided to see another dermatologist with all this updated info. She took one look at the affected areas of my face and said it was folliculitis. She did a culture swab and a nasal test for staph areaus (bacterial folliculitis) and confirmed thats what was causing the pustules. She prescribed cefalexin, as well as anti-bacterial soap and topical medicine calledciproflaxin. I underwent the treatment as prescribed and much like most people on here, it worked well for the first few weeks. But once the prescription ended it came back. So I went back to see her and she said the reason was because it was a deep infection of the hair follicle. I asked what could be done about this and she suggested I continue using the anti-bacterial soap and a toner to keep the pores tight to prevent the pustules from arising again. She said that there wasn't a cure for deep infections like mine and that I had to stick to the regimen for long enough to change the culture of my skin. I don't believe that will work because even though I go 5-6 months sticking to the anti bacterial soap and toner, the pustules always come back whenever I go for a run or go out for an extended period of time.
(This is an aside but I also noticed at the end of the day when I wash my face before bed there's this white-ish oily hue to the hair on my chin/cheek areas. It's the type of bacterial/oil that's emitting from those infectedfollicles. So if you see this too chances are you have bacterial folliculitis)
Whenever there's a pustule it's almost always surrounding a hair follicle (the hair is poking right through it) and when it's not it's right next to one. After doing a bit of research into staph aureas it became apparent that one of the most popular places this bacteria lives in is the nasal passage, and that one of the signs that you have it is a really small, almost indiscernible bump on one of your nostrils. Which Ihave. I'm sure if you look up "papule on nostril" you'll see what I'm talking about. This is important to note because I specifically remember a time when I usedused my beard trimmer to trimthe hairs at the edge of my nostrils before re-using it on my face (stupid, I know). But I believe that's exactly how it spread there. About 10% of the population has staph aureaus (nasal passage, throat, or other parts of the body) and most of them don't notice because it's harmless. It only becomes an issue when you have a cut and it somehow penetrates it. Whenever you shave your face you're essentially making micro cuts on your skin. This is how the staph aureaus nestles itself into your hair follicle. It then grows by feedingoff sweat and yeast which is why it was at its worstwhenever I'd exercise or go out in the sun. This is also why my dermatologist recommends anti-bacterial soap with zinc or sulphur, as well as toner. They don't fight this infection, all they do is dry out the skin follicles and prevent them from producing oil that eventually lead to clogged pores which ultimately lead to the pustules. This is a surface level infection, meaning (if you have bacterial folliculitis) nothing you do with your diet or supplementation will have any affect. The reason some people are reporting success with diet restrictions or probiotics is due to circumstance in my opinion. It's possible they aren't as physically active as when they had less restrictive diets. This is further reinforced by the complete lack of redness I notice on my infected areas in the morning right when I wake up (after 12 hours of inactivity). I'm sure certain unhealthy foods make your face produce more oil so avoiding them will definitely help but it's not the cause. If, like me, you have bacterial folliculitis then this is 100% an infection in the facial hair follicle by either staph aureaus or some other bacteria. This is also why people that get the sides of their heads buzzed who already have staph aureaus bacteria living on their skin eventually end up with folliculitis on their scalps. Cutting the hair that short can lead to the possibility of damaging the hair follicles which opens them up to be infected.I highly suggest you see your dermatologist to confirm this by doing culture tests for staph aureaus and whatever else they suggest. Bacterial folliculitis is just one type of folliculitis, so you might have a completely different kind of folliculitis. But for me, the prevention of sebum production through routine maintenance (anti bacterial soap, toner), as well as reduction in the amount of physical activity I do has helped to reduce the breakouts.
Obviously remaining physicallyinactive JUST to stop your pores from opening up/sweating/producing sebum isn't sustainable. I really miss exercising as frequently as I did back in college. Butthis is behavioral change is what's causing the most noticeable reduction in the amount of pustules I produce. That and washing my face 2-3 times a day to prevent the possibility of clogging of pores. I still remain on a healthy diet because it's beneficial mentally and spiritually but I highly doubt it's the main cause (again, oily foods can act as a catalyst for your skin to produce more sebum/yeast which can easily get clogged so avoiding them will help limit the amount of pustules you produce but they aren't the cause imo).
I really wish this was a diet/gut flora imbalance because then it would be easier to fix. There's a few posts in here by people with dermatitis and other issues that aren't bacterial folliculitis but look identical to it. For them, the probiotics and restoration of gut flora probably does work (I don't know much about those conditions) but I can confidently say it doesn't cure bacterial folliculitis. I spent the last year and a half on a healthy diet with zero cheat days to no avail. Does anyone have any experience with facial hair removal through laser? If this is a hair follicle problem then I would think that completely removing the hairs through laser will have some positive affect on the problem right? I did a quick search for "laser hair removal folliculitis" and found some posts that report that it works. But they're usually women using it for areas with hair that's less coarse/thick than a male's beard. I'm at the point where I wouldn't mind giving up my beard all together just to get rid of this thing.
I apologize for the wall of text. That's just been my journey fighting this thing for the last couple of years. I saw in a previous post someone started a group chat to discuss this further. I would love to be added to that GC for further communication. I think it's a great idea to stay in touch with people that are suffering from the same condition so that you don't feel alone.
Out of curiosity, what exactly have you been eating during your diet restriction, and for how long ? I agree when you say that everyone is different and it could be there are different triggers for different people. When it comes to me, my lifestyle has beenpretty sedentary for years, so I'm pretty sure that physical activity doesn't have much impact.
I've been eating home-cooked meals for the last year and a half now.I quit junk food, dairy, and most bread/grains. I have managed to avoid everything with processed sugar as well.
My diet has been pretty simple. For breakfast I'll either have boiled potatoes, oats, or a tuna salad. When I do go for the tuna it's with unleavened breads. There's no reason for this in particular, but I used to think the yeast in bread was contributing to the puss back when I thought food was the cause. I don't see any reason why you can't continue eating regular bread but I've stuck with flat bread withoutrising agents because it makes me feel less full/sluggish than regular bread.
For lunch I'll have a salad with steamed vegetables. There aren't really any restrictions in terms of what kinds of vegetables, whatever I am in the mood for is what I usually eat as long as it's steamed and not cooked/sauteed with oil. Again, I used to think oil was contributing to the pustules but ultimately found it had no correlation.I once tried reintroducing cooking with olive & coconut oilit to my diet to see if it would exacerbate the problems but it never did.
For dinner it's always steamed rice, steamed chicken or lamb, and steamed vegetables.
I rarely snack but when I have to it's carrots, cucumbers, some fruits, and dates (although I find the high sugar content of dates to give me the non-folliculitis type regular pimples when I eat too many of them).
I want to reiterate that I don't think there's ZERO correlation between diet and quality of skin. There's no doubt in my mind that the rest of my skin, not just the areas affected by folliculitis, have improved in quality dramatically with this type of diet. That being said, I don't think it's the cause of bacterial folliculitis, which is the condition that I have. I'm sure if I start eating junk food again my face will produce more sebum which will cause more clogged pores but I'm certain it's not the ultimate cause of bacterial folliculitis.It is very possible that, if you have something like periodontal dermatitis, food/gut imbalance may be the ultimate contributor. But I don't think it's the case with me. I'm sorry if I sound like a broken record here, but it's an important distinction to make and I hope I don't cause more confusion.I highly recommend taking a food sensitivity test just to see what foods you should be avoiding in general.
The only supplements I take are vitamin D, which i take once every other day, and vitamin C which I only take during flu season.
Your diet sounds pretty reasonable, except perhaps that you are eating gluten that comes from bread, but at least there's no dairy. You probably know that gluten is a major issue for many people, and many havegluten sensitivitywithout even knowing.
I've been advocating here for a very strict zero carbs diet, eating justmeat in order to minimizereaction to food, in order to figure out if that's problem, because I don't really believe those food sensitivity tests. I also have been trying to attack this with probiotics, but without success so far. For me, definitely it is food. I'm currently almost a month on this diet(I'm doing it for the 5th time), and it's the same story again as it was each time: after 2 weeks all white "pimples" stopped popping out, I'm completely clear, except for a few old ones that are fading away. So I know 100% it is reaction to food in my case, but have no clue how to get my immune system not to freak out when I eat something that's not meat.
Yes I am fortunate not to be sensitive to gluten but I rarely eat bread to begin with. It's mostly just the potatoes for breakfast.
Regarding the success that you seem to be having with your diet, perhaps what you're dealing with is not bacterial folliculitis. Either way, sticking to a healthy diet is good no matter what the result is. I would caution use of probiotics as there's too many variants out there will all kinds of combinations of "good" bacteria. People don't understand how much work needs to be done to figure out which "good" bacteria is good for them. I've also learned of many cases of people becoming extremely sensitive (gas/bloating) to foods they've been able to tolerate their whole lives after using probiotics for a long period of time. Apparently overuse of probiotics can lead to too much "good bacteria" in the wrong place leading to SIBO (small intestine bacteria overgrowth).
You say you've lived a pretty sedentary life for the last few years. Perhaps you can experiment and try to be more physically active for about a week just to test the waters. This is totally up to you, I just think it would be important to know whether or not it'll exacerbate the issue.