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I'm doing a series of 5 photofacials and 5 microdermabrasions at a private laser clinic. The cost for the whole series is $1500.
I can't say yet whether it's going to work or not. As of today, redness is definitely reduced, I can see that effect already. One new PF bump did come up on my right cheekbone .... that's been the most stubborn PF patch for me for the past 6 weeks or so -- but it went down very quickly once I put mandelic on it. I don't see any other new bumps as yet, and the old ones have all healed up except for this patch on my cheek, which is still visible (though not nearly so red as before). I'm using the ketozonacole cream there now, layering it on top of the mandelic.
I'm doing a series of 5 photofacials and 5 microdermabrasions at a private laser clinic. The cost for the whole series is $1500.
I can't say yet whether it's going to work or not. As of today, redness is definitely reduced, I can see that effect already. One new PF bump did come up on my right cheekbone .... that's been the most stubborn PF patch for me for the past 6 weeks or so -- but it went down very quickly once I put mandelic on it. I don't see any other new bumps as yet, and the old ones have all healed up except for this patch on my cheek, which is still visible (though not nearly so red as before). I'm using the ketozonacole cream there now, layering it on top of the mandelic.
Is the ketoconazole OTC or RX? The mandelic is starting to become less effective, so it would be nice to have something else to try.
O.K, I originally posted this is a new thread, but am re-posting it here for everyone with pr.fol to see.
Well, went for some blood tests other day, and results came back that I have unusually high levels of 2 enzymes in my liver, and my doc seems to think it could be liver failure. Going to hospital for more tests tommorow, hopefully it will be nothing.
She seems pretty sure its because of the 200mg a day ketoconazole I've been taking that I bought online to treat pr. folliculitis. So looks like I've traded bad skin for potentially fatal liver failure... Just letting people out here know that resorting to things like ketoconazole isn't as good an idea as it seems at the time, and I should have listened to the advice some people were telling me and stopped taking them. With any luck everything will sort itself out, if not I'm on the market for a new liver
If anyone wants to know anything I'm more than happy to tell you everything. Oh and btw, I'm using ZNP now to control the pr. fol, with pretty good success, and gonna try mandelic acid aswell as I hear that works too.
On a different note, it seems that the ketoconazole has become ineffective anway, not seeming to do anything anymore, so after using the cream for over a year and a few courses of the tablets they may become basically useless.
Thanks
How long were you taking the ketoconazole for that it affected your liver?
I'm doing a series of 5 photofacials and 5 microdermabrasions at a private laser clinic. The cost for the whole series is $1500.
I can't say yet whether it's going to work or not. As of today, redness is definitely reduced, I can see that effect already. One new PF bump did come up on my right cheekbone .... that's been the most stubborn PF patch for me for the past 6 weeks or so -- but it went down very quickly once I put mandelic on it. I don't see any other new bumps as yet, and the old ones have all healed up except for this patch on my cheek, which is still visible (though not nearly so red as before). I'm using the ketozonacole cream there now, layering it on top of the mandelic.
Further update: The first photofacial hasn't stopped new bumps from emerging ... two new ones have come up along my jaw -- but it has dramatically reduced redness. The old problem areas look a lot better, and the new bumps are colorless. The mandelic/ketoconazole combination dries them up pretty quickly .... unfortunately, the rest of my face is also starting to get very dry.
sometimes I feel like I just can't win.
I'm doing a series of 5 photofacials and 5 microdermabrasions at a private laser clinic. The cost for the whole series is $1500.
I can't say yet whether it's going to work or not. As of today, redness is definitely reduced, I can see that effect already. One new PF bump did come up on my right cheekbone .... that's been the most stubborn PF patch for me for the past 6 weeks or so -- but it went down very quickly once I put mandelic on it. I don't see any other new bumps as yet, and the old ones have all healed up except for this patch on my cheek, which is still visible (though not nearly so red as before). I'm using the ketozonacole cream there now, layering it on top of the mandelic.
Further update: The first photofacial hasn't stopped new bumps from emerging ... two new ones have come up along my jaw -- but it has dramatically reduced redness. The old problem areas look a lot better, and the new bumps are colorless. The mandelic/ketoconazole combination dries them up pretty quickly .... unfortunately, the rest of my face is also starting to get very dry.
sometimes I feel like I just can't win.
I have the same kind of ongoing battle with the spots on my chest and back. Something works great for awhile, but then stops working and in order to keep it marginally in check I have to dry and irritate the crap out of my skin. This PF crap is sure a pain in the ass! I did get a recommendation from Shilpa (one of the estheticians at Face Reality). She said her brother gets PF and uses an antifungal tea that helps. I have read up on it a bit and it may be something worth looking into. The active ingredient in the tea also comes in a topical form and also in a tincture that you can mix with water. If you are interested, I can put up a link or two about the stuff. I am also thinking of going back to the private practice derm who did my extraction - maybe he'll have some better suggetions than my Kaiser derm.
Sure, I'd like to see the info.
I keep reminding myself that PF is not as bad as acne. But it maddens me just the same.
Do you notice it moving around? My first outbreaks were all on my forehead, brows and temples, but I hardly get anything there anymore. Now my cheekbones and jaw seem most susceptible. I don't understand it at all .... those are far from being the oiliest spots on my face.
O.k, over the past week, I've practically got rid of my pf. In the night, I use ZNP, let it sit for around 10 minutes, then wash off. Then mandelic acid 15% serum, and apply Olay non-comdogenic moisturizer straight on top of that.
The ZNP and mandelic acid still work wonders, but without the irritation. It's at the point now where I only really need to use it as an on the spot treatment - going to keep applying to whole area thought to prevent it coming back in full force 
Great timing since I now have my face under control aswell
O.K, I originally posted this is a new thread, but am re-posting it here for everyone with pr.fol to see.
Well, went for some blood tests other day, and results came back that I have unusually high levels of 2 enzymes in my liver, and my doc seems to think it could be liver failure. Going to hospital for more tests tommorow, hopefully it will be nothing.
She seems pretty sure its because of the 200mg a day ketoconazole I've been taking that I bought online to treat pr. folliculitis. So looks like I've traded bad skin for potentially fatal liver failure... Just letting people out here know that resorting to things like ketoconazole isn't as good an idea as it seems at the time, and I should have listened to the advice some people were telling me and stopped taking them. With any luck everything will sort itself out, if not I'm on the market for a new liver
If anyone wants to know anything I'm more than happy to tell you everything. Oh and btw, I'm using ZNP now to control the pr. fol, with pretty good success, and gonna try mandelic acid aswell as I hear that works too.
On a different note, it seems that the ketoconazole has become ineffective anway, not seeming to do anything anymore, so after using the cream for over a year and a few courses of the tablets they may become basically useless.
Thanks
How long were you taking the ketoconazole for that it affected your liver?
About 1 and a half months of 400mg daily
Anyone know if accutane can cure folliculitis aswell? I'm starting tane in about a month to get rid of my acne for good, would be nice if it got rid of folliculitis aswell
I was on accutane 3 times. Each time, my skin was absolutely beautiful. Once I went off the drug, it returned within 1 month. So I would say it doesn't work. Although, if you get permanent skin drying from accutane, I would think it could work. My skin just returned to normal right after discontinuing.
Thanks to anyone who mentioned the ZNP bar... it is FANTASTIC!
Hey everyone,
Ive just been browsing through this topic and noticed all the varied products people are trying, to kill the P.F.
I'd just like to encourage everyone to TRY Propylene Glycol. It's extremely safe (approved by the F.D.A) and worked wonders for myself, i know a few others are trying it at the moment.
If u'd like to try it, buy some propylene glycol from the drug store and mix it 1:1 with water. I used a spray bottle for easy application. Have a shower and gently rub down the affected areas with a cloth, after the shower, dry off and apply the Prop. Gly. to affected areas.
It took about two weeks for my to visually disappear, i used it for a further 2 to be certain it was gone. It's ot harsh in any way despite its typical chemical name.
Goodluck,
Steve
Hey everyone,
Ive just been browsing through this topic and noticed all the varied products people are trying, to kill the P.F.
I'd just like to encourage everyone to TRY Propylene Glycol. It's extremely safe (approved by the F.D.A) and worked wonders for myself, i know a few others are trying it at the moment.
If u'd like to try it, buy some propylene glycol from the drug store and mix it 1:1 with water. I used a spray bottle for easy application. Have a shower and gently rub down the affected areas with a cloth, after the shower, dry off and apply the Prop. Gly. to affected areas.
It took about two weeks for my to visually disappear, i used it for a further 2 to be certain it was gone. It's ot harsh in any way despite its typical chemical name.
Goodluck,
Steve
I asked my doctor about using this and he has the pharmacy mixing it up for me - I'll probably start it on Monday or Tuesday after I pick it up. So, you used it for a month, stopped using it and stayed clear? How long have you been clear? Did you apply it once or twice a day?
Thanks for any input. I really hope this works for me too. I have managed to keep the PF mostly under control with mandelic acid and Nizoal shampoo, but still get periodic flareups. I just hope the propylene glycol isn't just a temporary fix like everything else I have tried so far.
Anyone know if accutane can cure folliculitis aswell? I'm starting tane in about a month to get rid of my acne for good, would be nice if it got rid of folliculitis aswell
It helps .... basically, by reducing sebum, it cuts off most of the food supply.
It hasn't completely cleared mine, but I'm on a very low dose regimen.
The Nizoral cream/mandelic combination is working really well for me right now and I hope that lasts. Otherwise I will be joining the propylene glycol brigade.
Willow,
Yeh, this was about two years ago i had the p.f. I applied the prop.glyc. twice a day quite liberally as it soaks into ur skin after about 5 mins or so, mind u i had it from neck to toe so was in the "nut".
After two weeks of using it i couldnt actually see the p.f. but that doesnt mean it has gone. Because prop gly is so subtle and not harsh in anyway i was happy to use it for longer. A year later i had a few spots of p.f. arond the crotch "ahem" but then again p.f. comes around due to different reasons, the 2nd time in my case its my hot and sweaty work environment.
Just to add, the initial reason for my p.f. was a course of antibiotics for acne. And my case of p.f. was i guess moderate but all over my body.
Gotta go, check backj with u guys later.
Hi...just wanted to comment on the propylene glycol use.
I've been using a 50% solution for about 10 days now. There has
been a significant reduction in the redness of the areas and the flareup of pimples.
In the past 10 days I've had only 2 small pimples form but otherwise what is left is some dull red marks. I must say I'm very pleased with how things are going and I'm going to give it a solid 3 weeks and then make a conclusion. If I have to go beyond 3 weeks I think I'll make a trip to the Derm and get a script for something for fungal. I think it just may be beneficial and best to attack this from external as well as internal. I do absolutely think this is PF/Fungal now, because the PG is the only thing that has really made a change beyond a handful of days.
I've had this probably going on for about 3 years and it has been localized strictly to my belly.
On thing I have noticed is that the PG does have some strength to it. Sorta how straight
ACV could have on your skin. Irritating, but tolerable and itchy. This may be because in the beginning I was using it about 3x daily. (probably 2 is enough). Everybody will certainly react different. Nothing that would cause me to stop at this point though.
Regards,
Chuck
Where can you get PG, I REALLY want to try this out?
You might be able to get a pharmacy to mix it up for you (or ask your doctor to call it in to the pharmacy - thats what I did). Someone else posted about getting a premixed solution from cigar makers - propylene glycol and water mixtures are used for cigar humidors.
willow569 said:You might be able to get a pharmacy to mix it up for you (or ask your doctor to call it in to the pharmacy - thats what I did). Someone else posted about getting a premixed solution from cigar makers - propylene glycol and water mixtures are used for cigar humidors.
O.K, thx, I was looking on Ebay and only found anti-freeze with PG, didn't really think using anti-freeze was such a good idea though.
EDIT: Just found this on ebay, would this be the right stuff to use?
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It looks like what you need although it doesn't say specifically what the exact ingredients are, i.e.
50% Propylene Glycol in 50% Distilled H2O. You could certainly ask the seller what the formulation is. Just be sure it's a 50% formulation and be sure there is nothing else besides Propylene Glycol and Distilled H20 in it.
I like the volume you get. The 8 ounces I bought at the below link is half gone after about 10 days now, so the 16 ounces will certainly last longer.
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Chuck
Thomascoote said:Wow thanks for showing me that site!!!Its definately what I'm after, and even thought the shipping will be $24 to U.K, it still works out cheaper than mandelic acid, I'll be giving this a try tommorrow.
Has anyone else got almost clear using this stuff?
You may want to consider even this...
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Buy the quart...then also go to the store and buy a gallon of distilled
water. Mix up equal portions for your 50% solution, put it in a spray
bottle and use it to apply.
The quart will last a loooong time, for sure, especially when it's diluted
50/50 with distilled H2O.
I think I might run out of the 8 ounces I got from the below
company before I've got rid of the PF (maybe).
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Chuck
