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hey white fox, i have a question for you.
can you describe in depth what your initial worsening stage on probiotics was like? What were your exact symptoms, how severe were they, and how did they progress over the course of weeks? I am convinced of the science behind gut flora + acne, but am losing faith because my skin is starting to look much worse. i am currently taking tiny amounts of VSL 3 (ramping up dosage) and water kefir.
I've read before that probiotics and fermented food is not recommended when you have leaky gut.
Where did you read that? That's the worst advice ever, and "every" reliable source recommend probiotics from various sources when trying to heal leaky gut. Gut Flora has an essential role in the development and maintenance of a healthy intestinal lining.
hey white fox, i have a question for you.
can you describe in depth what your initial worsening stage on probiotics was like? What were your exact symptoms, how severe were they, and how did they progress over the course of weeks? I am convinced of the science behind gut flora + acne, but am losing faith because my skin is starting to look much worse. i am currently taking tiny amounts of VSL 3 (ramping up dosage) and water kefir.
I got a lot worse during the first months of treatment. However, I had severe acne and also several food intolerances etc. so my condition was very "bad". Most people with mild-moderate acne and little-no gastrointestinal problems will see faster improvements if they follow the gut diet precisely.
I always had an initial reaction to fermented foods, but rarely to probiotic supplements. I think fermented foods are usually more effective.
Important
Like I have mentioned a couple of times. There is no point in starting this plan if you are not going to give it 3+ months. During the first weeks and months there will be ups and downs. People with candida overgrowth who's using antimicrobials in the beginning will have to give it more time.
Most people will begin to see great improvement 2 weeks-2 months after they have:
- Followed the diet for a couple of months
- Adjusted to several sources of probiotics and prebiotics (e.g. raw sauerkraut, kefir, probiotic supplements, prebiotic supplement)
- Achieved great digestion. Regular nice BMs
- No food intolerances
When you can put a green check beside all of these lines you have achieved a healthier gut flora and intestinal lining. Inflammation goes down and acne improves:)
You really think food intolerances will go away? Even for people like me with very severe gluten reactions?
I can honestly say that I will probably never know because there is no way I would ever test out eating gluten again. The reactions have been so bad I was pretty sure I was going to lose my life a couple of times.
It would be so great if I could lose my other allergies, though. Just so I could eat on other people's plates/pots/pans and stuff again. It's SO difficult when I travel. I have to buy a full cooking/dining set everywhere I go because I can't use anything anyone has ever had gluten on.
I don't mind the diet, but stuff like that just kills me sometimes. 
I've been using store bought kefir, made with pastured low temp pasteurized goat milk (not 100% grass fed though), and I've not had any significant negative reactions. I got real kefir grains in the mail yesterday, so I took some of the store goat kefir, along with the same brands whole goat milk, plus grass finished pastured etc. whole cream from cows, added the kefir grains, and am letting it work its magic for 48 hours. I eat kimchi, sauerkraut, and pickles daily as well.
I'm relatively clear (never more than a few small pimples here and there, and maybe up to 5 if other acne factors go bad like sleep stress certain foods etc). My doctor recently said that I have psoriasis ( I went in for what I thought was ringworm from my cat), and considering that I have a family history of IBS, GERD, cystic acne on both sides of the family (as well as regular acne), I've decided to be much more diligent about the foods I do/do not eat.
Seeing as I was raised on SAD + generous courses of antibiotics + NSAID use, as well as the family history of health problems, it's a serious possibility that I actually do have psoriasis, which might not seem bad all in itself, but there's an even greater chance of developing other autoimmune disorders in the future. That's pretty scary, considering all the different kinds that are out there.
I'm going to keep tabs on my general health as I begin to experiment with the potentially more offending forms of dairy (for the past 3 months or so I've only really used ghee), so I may skip the cow cream in the future, and just sticking with goat dairy.
It's a risky thing to guess what leads to the psoriasis (if that's what it is) breakouts, but they did seem to pop up when I ate things like pizza and burgers, which I only allowed once every few months. Cystic acne (just a few) would pop up in the regular spots sometimes as well. It seems best that I stick to a sort of autoimmune protocol for now, with the goat kefir being the exception - since it could be potentially helpful.
You really think food intolerances will go away? Even for people like me with very severe gluten reactions?
I can honestly say that I will probably never know because there is no way I would ever test out eating gluten again. The reactions have been so bad I was pretty sure I was going to lose my life a couple of times.
It would be so great if I could lose my other allergies, though. Just so I could eat on other people's plates/pots/pans and stuff again. It's SO difficult when I travel. I have to buy a full cooking/dining set everywhere I go because I can't use anything anyone has ever had gluten on.
I don't mind the diet, but stuff like that just kills me sometimes.
Food intolerances are caused by dysfunctional gut flora:
http://coolinginflam...ntolerance.html
http://coolinginflam...fiber-food.html
There's actually specific bacteria that are involved in the digestion of gluten
However, avoiding grains for the most part is a good long-term strategy:)
One of the most common misunderstandings regarding Gut Flora
Probiotic supplements and yoghurt are the two most common sources of "probiotics" in the western diet, but they only provide a handful of different bacterial species, mostly lactobacillus and bifidobacteria. Healthy gut flora include 100+ species of microorganisms, and most of the bacteria in yoghurt and supplements aren't actually able to colonize the GI tract. They can however transfer their genes to the bacteria on the gut biofilms.
While probiotic supplements and yoghurt can be included they won't provide the necessary microbes for a healthy gut flora. Soil contains thousands of microbial species, and "organic" vegetables, spices/herbs, mushrooms etc. are great sources of bacteria (Gardening is also great:)). Contact (e.g. kissing, breathing) with healthy humans and animals will also provide new microbes. Avoiding excessive hygiene and handwashing is also great. And fermented foods offcource.
This is the evolutionary approach!!
A full list of "probiotic" sources can be found in my quote from Dr. Art Ayers
Summarized: Contrary to conventional wisdom, probiotic supplements and yoghurt only contain a couple of species of bacteria that only offer marginal benefits. These products should be combined with other sources of bacteria!!
Healthy gut flora usually means properly functioning intestinal lining (no leaky gut) IF foods known to aggrevate leaky gut (e.g. grains) are consumed in moderation or avoided completely.
This thread is really interesting and has inspired me to try a dietary approach to curing acne.
I'm fairly sure I'm low on 'good bacteria' and could possibly have candida, I exhibit many of the symptoms i.e. stomach pains, drowsiness, headaches, prone to infection, sugar cravings and obviously acne. I also did the saliva test and which was positive, although I doubt that's a sure sign of yeast overload. Even if I don't have candida, the diet that goes with curing it seems incredibly healthy anyway so it's worth a shot.
Had acne since I was 13 (now 22, male), tried everything apart from accutane, which I feel is a bit too much of a risk. Actually managed to get it under control for 4 or 5 months and had clear skin (apart from scars) using BP, dead sea soap, sudocrem and e45 cream, but about a month ago it came back, I think because of the sun cream I was using ... mostly cysts which are so annoying. Anyway the breakout is subsiding now and I may even be clear again for several months but I don't think I'm really getting to the cause of the acne and it will always come back eventually.
I think that once you get past puberty and your acne remains, there must be something else going on. For me the heavy use of antibiotics probably made things worse in the long run, if it has in fact caused an imbalance in my gut. If I had not had the antibiotics the acne may have gone on it's own once I reached maturity, but now it remains because the antibiotics that were supposed to help me actually destroyed the main defence against waste passing through the skin.
Anyway, not much I can do about that now. I'm going to try a diet of mostly veggies, meat, natural yoghurt, eggs and wholemeal pasta/rice. What I'm most worried about is that my diet now consists of fruit, carbs, grains and nuts, all of which are not recommended so I need to change completely and I really don't want to loose weight. Already really skinny, in fact if I start loosing significant amounts of weight i'll have to stop as it just won't be healthy (anyone know any calorie dense foods that are allowed, let me know!).
Been taking zinc supplements for ages, recently started taking cod liver oil, will probably add a probiotic supplement to that list and maybe that candex stuff eventually.
Sorry for the long post, I just thought I'd get everything out of my head and written down. Feel free to give any tips 
Wish me luck!
This thread is really interesting and has inspired me to try a dietary approach to curing acne.
I'm fairly sure I'm low on 'good bacteria' and could possibly have candida, I exhibit many of the symptoms i.e. stomach pains, drowsiness, headaches, prone to infection, sugar cravings and obviously acne. I also did the saliva test and which was positive, although I doubt that's a sure sign of yeast overload. Even if I don't have candida, the diet that goes with curing it seems incredibly healthy anyway so it's worth a shot.
Had acne since I was 13 (now 22, male), tried everything apart from accutane, which I feel is a bit too much of a risk. Actually managed to get it under control for 4 or 5 months and had clear skin (apart from scars) using BP, dead sea soap, sudocrem and e45 cream, but about a month ago it came back, I think because of the sun cream I was using ... mostly cysts which are so annoying. Anyway the breakout is subsiding now and I may even be clear again for several months but I don't think I'm really getting to the cause of the acne and it will always come back eventually.
I think that once you get past puberty and your acne remains, there must be something else going on. For me the heavy use of antibiotics probably made things worse in the long run, if it has in fact caused an imbalance in my gut. If I had not had the antibiotics the acne may have gone on it's own once I reached maturity, but now it remains because the antibiotics that were supposed to help me actually destroyed the main defence against waste passing through the skin.
Anyway, not much I can do about that now. I'm going to try a diet of mostly veggies, meat, natural yoghurt, eggs and wholemeal pasta/rice. What I'm most worried about is that my diet now consists of fruit, carbs, grains and nuts, all of which are not recommended so I need to change completely and I really don't want to loose weight. Already really skinny, in fact if I start loosing significant amounts of weight i'll have to stop as it just won't be healthy (anyone know any calorie dense foods that are allowed, let me know!).
Been taking zinc supplements for ages, recently started taking cod liver oil, will probably add a probiotic supplement to that list and maybe that candex stuff eventually.
Sorry for the long post, I just thought I'd get everything out of my head and written down. Feel free to give any tips
Wish me luck!
Just wanted to mention to you that taking cod liver oil for me produced large cysts and I wasn't even prone to cysts. Not saying that it is your cause of the recent breakout but I wanted to let you know my experience in case it is. From my research on the org. some people take it and it is fine, for others they react with cysts.
This thread is really interesting and has inspired me to try a dietary approach to curing acne.
I'm fairly sure I'm low on 'good bacteria' and could possibly have candida, I exhibit many of the symptoms i.e. stomach pains, drowsiness, headaches, prone to infection, sugar cravings and obviously acne. I also did the saliva test and which was positive, although I doubt that's a sure sign of yeast overload. Even if I don't have candida, the diet that goes with curing it seems incredibly healthy anyway so it's worth a shot.
Had acne since I was 13 (now 22, male), tried everything apart from accutane, which I feel is a bit too much of a risk. Actually managed to get it under control for 4 or 5 months and had clear skin (apart from scars) using BP, dead sea soap, sudocrem and e45 cream, but about a month ago it came back, I think because of the sun cream I was using ... mostly cysts which are so annoying. Anyway the breakout is subsiding now and I may even be clear again for several months but I don't think I'm really getting to the cause of the acne and it will always come back eventually.
I think that once you get past puberty and your acne remains, there must be something else going on. For me the heavy use of antibiotics probably made things worse in the long run, if it has in fact caused an imbalance in my gut. If I had not had the antibiotics the acne may have gone on it's own once I reached maturity, but now it remains because the antibiotics that were supposed to help me actually destroyed the main defence against waste passing through the skin.
Anyway, not much I can do about that now. I'm going to try a diet of mostly veggies, meat, natural yoghurt, eggs and wholemeal pasta/rice. What I'm most worried about is that my diet now consists of fruit, carbs, grains and nuts, all of which are not recommended so I need to change completely and I really don't want to loose weight. Already really skinny, in fact if I start loosing significant amounts of weight i'll have to stop as it just won't be healthy (anyone know any calorie dense foods that are allowed, let me know!).
Been taking zinc supplements for ages, recently started taking cod liver oil, will probably add a probiotic supplement to that list and maybe that candex stuff eventually.
Sorry for the long post, I just thought I'd get everything out of my head and written down. Feel free to give any tips
It's great that you're starting with the diet, but without several sources of "probiotics" and prebiotics you won't be able to restore healthy gut flora and improve leaky gut.
Wholemeal pasta is crap, just stick with Paleo+full fat, grass-fed fermented dairy
Good luck:)
This thread is really interesting and has inspired me to try a dietary approach to curing acne.
I'm fairly sure I'm low on 'good bacteria' and could possibly have candida, I exhibit many of the symptoms i.e. stomach pains, drowsiness, headaches, prone to infection, sugar cravings and obviously acne. I also did the saliva test and which was positive, although I doubt that's a sure sign of yeast overload. Even if I don't have candida, the diet that goes with curing it seems incredibly healthy anyway so it's worth a shot.
Had acne since I was 13 (now 22, male), tried everything apart from accutane, which I feel is a bit too much of a risk. Actually managed to get it under control for 4 or 5 months and had clear skin (apart from scars) using BP, dead sea soap, sudocrem and e45 cream, but about a month ago it came back, I think because of the sun cream I was using ... mostly cysts which are so annoying. Anyway the breakout is subsiding now and I may even be clear again for several months but I don't think I'm really getting to the cause of the acne and it will always come back eventually.
I think that once you get past puberty and your acne remains, there must be something else going on. For me the heavy use of antibiotics probably made things worse in the long run, if it has in fact caused an imbalance in my gut. If I had not had the antibiotics the acne may have gone on it's own once I reached maturity, but now it remains because the antibiotics that were supposed to help me actually destroyed the main defence against waste passing through the skin.
Anyway, not much I can do about that now. I'm going to try a diet of mostly veggies, meat, natural yoghurt, eggs and wholemeal pasta/rice. What I'm most worried about is that my diet now consists of fruit, carbs, grains and nuts, all of which are not recommended so I need to change completely and I really don't want to loose weight. Already really skinny, in fact if I start loosing significant amounts of weight i'll have to stop as it just won't be healthy (anyone know any calorie dense foods that are allowed, let me know!).
Been taking zinc supplements for ages, recently started taking cod liver oil, will probably add a probiotic supplement to that list and maybe that candex stuff eventually.
Sorry for the long post, I just thought I'd get everything out of my head and written down. Feel free to give any tips
Just wanted to mention to you that taking cod liver oil for me produced large cysts and I wasn't even prone to cysts. Not saying that it is your cause of the recent breakout but I wanted to let you know my experience in case it is. From my research on the org. some people take it and it is fine, for others they react with cysts.
This is interesting because I was kind of suspecting that I was getting breakouts from cod liver oil. It's really hard to say because at the time I was still breaking out from a variety of things. Now that I'm off the sweet potatoes I should try cod liver oil again and see what happens. I don't think I'm allergic to fish in general, because I've been eating salmon without any problems. What would it be in the cod liver oil that causes breakouts?
One of the most common misunderstandings regarding Gut Flora
Probiotic supplements and yoghurt are the two most common sources of "probiotics" in the western diet, but they only provide a handful of different bacterial species, mostly lactobacillus and bifidobacteria. Healthy gut flora include 100+ species of microorganisms, and most of the bacteria in yoghurt and supplements aren't actually able to colonize the GI tract. They can however transfer their genes to the bacteria on the gut biofilms.
While probiotic supplements and yoghurt can be included they won't provide the necessary microbes for a healthy gut flora. Soil contains thousands of microbial species, and "organic" vegetables, spices/herbs, mushrooms etc. are great sources of bacteria (Gardening is also great:)). Contact (e.g. kissing, breathing) with healthy humans and animals will also provide new microbes. Avoiding excessive hygiene and handwashing is also great. And fermented foods offcource.
This is the evolutionary approach!!
A full list of "probiotic" sources can be found in my quote from Dr. Art Ayers
Summarized: Contrary to conventional wisdom, probiotic supplements and yoghurt only contain a couple of species of bacteria that only offer marginal benefits. These products should be combined with other sources of bacteria!!
Healthy gut flora usually means properly functioning intestinal lining (no leaky gut) IF foods known to aggrevate leaky gut (e.g. grains) are consumed in moderation or avoided completely.
It should also be said that prebiotics are incredibly important in repopulating the good guys, because a lot of the probiotic cultures are killed by stomach acid before they reach your intestines. Prebiotics, on the other hand, are indigestible fiber that the good bacteria feeds on. You can't kill what's not alive. So even if, say one thousand out of one million good bacteria make it to the promised land, you can feed them with prebiotics and their numbers will multiply.*
*This is a simplification of the process. I know there are other things going on at the same time.
It's great that you're starting with the diet, but without several sources of "probiotics" and prebiotics you won't be able to restore healthy gut flora and improve leaky gut.
Wholemeal pasta is crap, just stick with Paleo+full fat, grass-fed fermented dairy
Good luck:)
Agreed. If you're going to do this, do it right. Whole grain pasta is probably one of the worst things you could be eating if you're interested in healing your gut.
This thread is really interesting and has inspired me to try a dietary approach to curing acne.
I'm fairly sure I'm low on 'good bacteria' and could possibly have candida, I exhibit many of the symptoms i.e. stomach pains, drowsiness, headaches, prone to infection, sugar cravings and obviously acne. I also did the saliva test and which was positive, although I doubt that's a sure sign of yeast overload. Even if I don't have candida, the diet that goes with curing it seems incredibly healthy anyway so it's worth a shot.
Had acne since I was 13 (now 22, male), tried everything apart from accutane, which I feel is a bit too much of a risk. Actually managed to get it under control for 4 or 5 months and had clear skin (apart from scars) using BP, dead sea soap, sudocrem and e45 cream, but about a month ago it came back, I think because of the sun cream I was using ... mostly cysts which are so annoying. Anyway the breakout is subsiding now and I may even be clear again for several months but I don't think I'm really getting to the cause of the acne and it will always come back eventually.
I think that once you get past puberty and your acne remains, there must be something else going on. For me the heavy use of antibiotics probably made things worse in the long run, if it has in fact caused an imbalance in my gut. If I had not had the antibiotics the acne may have gone on it's own once I reached maturity, but now it remains because the antibiotics that were supposed to help me actually destroyed the main defence against waste passing through the skin.
Anyway, not much I can do about that now. I'm going to try a diet of mostly veggies, meat, natural yoghurt, eggs and wholemeal pasta/rice. What I'm most worried about is that my diet now consists of fruit, carbs, grains and nuts, all of which are not recommended so I need to change completely and I really don't want to loose weight. Already really skinny, in fact if I start loosing significant amounts of weight i'll have to stop as it just won't be healthy (anyone know any calorie dense foods that are allowed, let me know!).
Been taking zinc supplements for ages, recently started taking cod liver oil, will probably add a probiotic supplement to that list and maybe that candex stuff eventually.
Sorry for the long post, I just thought I'd get everything out of my head and written down. Feel free to give any tips
Just wanted to mention to you that taking cod liver oil for me produced large cysts and I wasn't even prone to cysts. Not saying that it is your cause of the recent breakout but I wanted to let you know my experience in case it is. From my research on the org. some people take it and it is fine, for others they react with cysts.
This is interesting because I was kind of suspecting that I was getting breakouts from cod liver oil. It's really hard to say because at the time I was still breaking out from a variety of things. Now that I'm off the sweet potatoes I should try cod liver oil again and see what happens. I don't think I'm allergic to fish in general, because I've been eating salmon without any problems. What would it be in the cod liver oil that causes breakouts?
Give it a try and see what happens but it's definately a possibility. I really can't figure out what it is about cod liver oil that causes cysts because techinically it should be decreasing inflammation and is really good for the body. I'm not allergic to fish either and from what I have found based on reviews and posts here is that about 50% of people break out from it and 50% are fine. I looked into medical journals and could not find any reports of fish oil causing cysts. I'll mention that it decreased the rest of my non-inflammatory acne amazingly but then the cysts followed and I had never experienced them before. They stopped as soon as I stopped the fish oil but the non-inflammatory acne came back. At that time I didn't realize I had food allergies.
My uneducated guess is that maybe our bodies cannot handle so much fat being processed by the liver because our livers are allready taxed? I eat high fat soups and have no problems though. Maybe there are toxins in the fsh oil we are unaware of? Mercury? I really cannot explain it.
I don't think it's the mercury thing. I hope not anyway, because my supplement comes from Twinlab and that's a really reputable brand that claims they test their fish oils for complete purity. Twinlab hasn't done me wrong so far. I also don't think it's the taxed internal organs in my case because I've been cleansing very deeply for years and years now and I've eaten a perfect diet for a long time. I haven't even drank alcohol since way back in the day. And I had blood work done a few months ago that showed my organs are all in good working order.
It has to be an allergy is all I can think. I guess it could be possible to be allergic to certain fish and not others. I've never actually eaten cod.
This thread is really interesting and has inspired me to try a dietary approach to curing acne.
I'm fairly sure I'm low on 'good bacteria' and could possibly have candida, I exhibit many of the symptoms i.e. stomach pains, drowsiness, headaches, prone to infection, sugar cravings and obviously acne. I also did the saliva test and which was positive, although I doubt that's a sure sign of yeast overload. Even if I don't have candida, the diet that goes with curing it seems incredibly healthy anyway so it's worth a shot.
Had acne since I was 13 (now 22, male), tried everything apart from accutane, which I feel is a bit too much of a risk. Actually managed to get it under control for 4 or 5 months and had clear skin (apart from scars) using BP, dead sea soap, sudocrem and e45 cream, but about a month ago it came back, I think because of the sun cream I was using ... mostly cysts which are so annoying. Anyway the breakout is subsiding now and I may even be clear again for several months but I don't think I'm really getting to the cause of the acne and it will always come back eventually.
I think that once you get past puberty and your acne remains, there must be something else going on. For me the heavy use of antibiotics probably made things worse in the long run, if it has in fact caused an imbalance in my gut. If I had not had the antibiotics the acne may have gone on it's own once I reached maturity, but now it remains because the antibiotics that were supposed to help me actually destroyed the main defence against waste passing through the skin.
Anyway, not much I can do about that now. I'm going to try a diet of mostly veggies, meat, natural yoghurt, eggs and wholemeal pasta/rice. What I'm most worried about is that my diet now consists of fruit, carbs, grains and nuts, all of which are not recommended so I need to change completely and I really don't want to loose weight. Already really skinny, in fact if I start loosing significant amounts of weight i'll have to stop as it just won't be healthy (anyone know any calorie dense foods that are allowed, let me know!).
Been taking zinc supplements for ages, recently started taking cod liver oil, will probably add a probiotic supplement to that list and maybe that candex stuff eventually.
Sorry for the long post, I just thought I'd get everything out of my head and written down. Feel free to give any tips
It's great that you're starting with the diet, but without several sources of "probiotics" and prebiotics you won't be able to restore healthy gut flora and improve leaky gut.
Wholemeal pasta is crap, just stick with Paleo+full fat, grass-fed fermented dairy
Good luck:)
Thanks for the replies guys. Yes, I'll be adding a probiotic to my daily supplements soon, I've seen one online that has 5 billion active cultures and comes in a prebiotic case.
I know I should just cut out pasta completely, but because I eat carbs and sugar (all from fruit) so much, it's going to be hard to replace it all so I'm cutting down significantly, but allowing some leeway so I don't loose weight. Wholegrain pasta has still got to be better than white, though?
R.e. the cod liver oil- I already had some cysts when I started taking it, the inflammation has gone down but a few more have appeared. I'm hoping it;s just an initial breakout that will lead to clearer skin eventually, it has got a lot of vitamin A in it afterall...
Alright, ive just managed to find some good vegetables that i could replace with the bad carbs out there. The thing is though, ive found something online that says that certain food can cause problems to our Thyroid. I dont know much about Thyroid, but i have heard that it has a major role on digestion/metabolism. Now, if that is true, then wouldnt it be bad for us people who are trying to heal our gut?
The sad thing is that 90% of my vegetable intake comes from Broccoli, Cabbage, Cauliflower and spinach...and those are examples of vegetables cointaning Goitrogens, which is bad for the Thyroid.
What should i do? I mean, there isnt much options to choose from.. i live in a small town and i am studying in college, so i cant find other food around here and also i cant really afford the expensive foods neither, so it kinda sucks to hear about this. What do you guys think?
Here are some links:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=47
http://thyroid.about.com/od/symptomsrisks/a/All-About-Goitrogens-thyroid.htm
Alright, ive just managed to find some good vegetables that i could replace with the bad carbs out there. The thing is though, ive found something online that says that certain food can cause problems to our Thyroid. I dont know much about Thyroid, but i have heard that it has a major role on digestion/metabolism. Now, if that is true, then wouldnt it be bad for us people who are trying to heal our gut?
The sad thing is that 90% of my vegetable intake comes from Broccoli, Cabbage, Cauliflower and spinach...and those are examples of vegetables cointaning Goitrogens, which is bad for the Thyroid.
What should i do? I mean, there isnt much options to choose from.. i live in a small town and i am studying in college, so i cant find other food around here and also i cant really afford the expensive foods neither, so it kinda sucks to hear about this. What do you guys think?
Here are some links:
http://www.whfoods.c...=george&dbid=47
http://thyroid.about...ens-thyroid.htm
http://www.stoptheth...com/goitrogens/
That's no problem. All vegetables are okay (nightshades are a problem for some).
Alright, ive just managed to find some good vegetables that i could replace with the bad carbs out there. The thing is though, ive found something online that says that certain food can cause problems to our Thyroid. I dont know much about Thyroid, but i have heard that it has a major role on digestion/metabolism. Now, if that is true, then wouldnt it be bad for us people who are trying to heal our gut?
The sad thing is that 90% of my vegetable intake comes from Broccoli, Cabbage, Cauliflower and spinach...and those are examples of vegetables cointaning Goitrogens, which is bad for the Thyroid.
What should i do? I mean, there isnt much options to choose from.. i live in a small town and i am studying in college, so i cant find other food around here and also i cant really afford the expensive foods neither, so it kinda sucks to hear about this. What do you guys think?
Here are some links:
http://www.whfoods.c...=george&dbid=47
http://thyroid.about...ens-thyroid.htm
http://www.stoptheth...com/goitrogens/
This shouldn't be a problem if you cook the foods. It's mostly raw foods that have a high amount of that stuff. I cook most of my veggies like kale, or broccoli, but also regularly juice raw kale, and I was worried about the thyroid effects as well. At least until I had blood work done a few months ago and saw that my thyroid was fine. I've juiced and eaten a large amount of these veggies over the past two years and it had zero affect on my thyroid. Eat up, I say. 🙂
That's no problem. All vegetables are okay (nightshades are a problem for some).
This shouldn't be a problem if you cook the foods. It's mostly raw foods that have a high amount of that stuff. I cook most of my veggies like kale, or broccoli, but also regularly juice raw kale, and I was worried about the thyroid effects as well. At least until I had blood work done a few months ago and saw that my thyroid was fine. I've juiced and eaten a large amount of these veggies over the past two years and it had zero affect on my thyroid. Eat up, I say.
Ah, thats good news. Thanks for sharing guys, take care!=)
Did any of you try RestorX? It seems like an interesting product to heal the intestinal barrier and fix a leaky gut. I couldn't get to try it yet though, since I found no store in Brazil that sells it (or Candex, which also seems interesting).