Romeo,
I've been on Dan's regimen for about a year, and it kept my acne under control.
About two weeks ago, I read this thread, and then went to Walmart and bought Spring Valley Enteric Coated Omega 3 Fish Oil. I think this is the Walmart Brand that you were refering to (at least I hope it is).
Anyway, I started with 0.9 grams a day, and quickly went up to 1.8grams a day. It has been almost two weeks, and surprisingly I'm seeing great results! I haven't had any break-outs since. Not a single white head. My skin is also much less oily. It is also helping with the acne on my scalp.
Has anyone noticed that it feels different when you apply benzoyl peroxide or lotion on to your skin now? It almost feels like it is more difficult to get it to absorb...
Taking fish oil has taken me to the next level of clearing up. I hope when I reach 4 grams a day I will be completely clear. If you figure out a way to get rid of scars next let me know!!
Thanks for making this thread!
i can honestly say that i am acne free after 3 months, even my derm said after several courses of tane that i had the most persistant acne he has ever seen. i never had the cystic type though, only mild to moderate. and if it was'nt for Ndnromeo experimenting with different things i would have been back on tane by now. even if i get the odd white head, there is hardly any inflammation, i never had that before, it used to spread like a fire to surrounding areas. so, thanks again
Yep, I have to say that I've been on Omega 3 for a few months now, and although I took a relatively low dose to start with (as I was initially sceptical) I have seen really good results. I haven't had a whitehead (my usual problem) for weeks. And I mean weeks. Probably about 5 weeks.
My oil production has dropped, so even by about 5pm I'm still relatively oil free. When I exercise, my skin produces less oil as well, so I don't end up really shiny after exercising as I used to.
I also have noticed that the rest of my skin has improved. I have no rough elbows, which I used to have to moisturise every day and my skin genuinely looks healthy most of the time. I guess this will improve as my deficit of Omega 3 is reduced over time.
The scepticism that people express here is understandable. I was for a long time, but since I've seen improvements to my skin, I'm a huge advocate of Omega 3. Not only has it helped my skin, but I feel happier about a huge range of other benefits that Omega 3 has been linked to; improved memory and attention, less risk of osteoporosis, and less risk of heart disease. And I don't think I've seen a bad report about Omega 3.
I would love to provide photos for the website, but since I've refuse to have my photo taken for the last 5 years, it wouldn't help much. You can still see my red marks on my skin and the fact that there is no new acne, so I would take a photo now if anyone wants to see?
I really want to thank everyone on here who has been a guinea pig and reported back their results. Particularly ndnromeo, who seems to be on this website almost permanently, and has an answer for everyone who asks a question. And always has a back up link to support what he is saying. He is tireless in justifying what he is doing, always goes about things in a scientific and fair manner to get 'good' (i.e. reliable) results and seems to have endless patience to answer the same questions over and over again, because people haven't read all 85 pages of this thread! I'm pleased I picked this thread up at page 18!
Thanks everyone, for the first time in 12 years, I can see a real improvement to my acne, and I honestly believe it's because of the Omega 3. I also use a lot of BP still, and I know that helps, but the Omega 3 has reduced the amount of acne I get that is treated by the BP. Thanks again. Fingers crossed for my red marks to fade and then I might, just might, be acne free! Hurrah!
what i have noticed is that you get better results with higher doses, on 18 g O3 i virtually had no problems, but now that i'm back again on 9 g, i do have a whitehead or two, nothing that a bit of BP can't fix. i don't think that we will ever by 100 % clear 100 % of the time, but the O3 has given me results like nothing i have ever tried before, including trying out the paleo diet. OR maybe we are so deficient in O3 that after 6 months to a year we may very well be completely clear. definetely in it for the long haul from what i have seen thus far. keep up the good work Ndn Romeo.
Romeo, I have a question. Isn't the entire point of taking the Omega-3 supplements to balance out the Omega-6:Omega-3 ratio? It was my understanding when the thread was made that if you tipped the scale too far one way or the other, it turned out to be detrimental instead of beneficial. Is this wrong? I'm asking because if I can afford to take as much Omega-3 as I want per day (~10g), without any negative side effects (including diarrhea, etc.), should I? Would there be any reason not to?
look at common whole food items that are not nuts/seeds/oils at nutritiondata
you will see that almost all of them have a vast excess of omega 6 in decent quantities
it is very easy to consume 20+ grams of omega 6 daily from grains, chicken, veggies, fruits, etc. if you have a demanding caloric intake (high metabolism, lots of cardio, lots of training, etc.) without even touching those other foods i mentioned
take as much fish oil as you can afford to take because it is extremly easy to consume decent portions of omega 6 even on a low-fat diet
i can honestly say that i am acne free after 3 months, even my derm said after several courses of tane that i had the most persistant acne he has ever seen. i never had the cystic type though, only mild to moderate. and if it was'nt for Ndnromeo experimenting with different things i would have been back on tane by now. even if i get the odd white head, there is hardly any inflammation, i never had that before, it used to spread like a fire to surrounding areas. so, thanks again :dance:
This is really good to hear. What do you do besides take Omega 3 pills? What is the rest of your regimen?
And how did you take 18g of O3?, did you take the liquid form or the capsule form?
Just wanted to throw another update in. I miscalculated how much fish oil I'd been taking. I thought I was taking 3.5g but I'm actually taking 3.9g currently. I'm prolly going to up it to 4.4g this week. I started taking 50mg of zinc last week and I've noticed even quicker healing times for the blemishes I get. Which are definitely fewer and go away faster I was still feeling oily on my face so I've been using acv as a spot treatment and have noticed a great improvement in that area. Hope everyone else is doing well with fish oil !
hi every1..just to summarise whats the conclusion of this thread? what supplements are everyone taking and does anyone know where they can be bought from in the uk? thanks :dance:
Hi there,
I don't think there is a 'conclusion' as such, as it's an ongoing research project. To summarise though, you need to be taking between 3 and 4 g of Omega 3 every day. You can go higher, but 3-4g is a good start. Make sure you start low and build up, as your body can be shocked by starting high doses quickly. Over a couple of weeks build up your dose.
A good brand of Omega 3 in the UK is Holland and Barrett. They come with Vitamin E as well, which is great for your skin. Here's a link to what you want:
You want the product called Fish Oil Concentrate Capsules (1000mg). At the moment they are on sale, so you can get them really cheap. The offer ends on the 27th May so hurry! Each capsule has 180mg of EPA and 120 DHA, so a combined Omega 3 value of 300mg per capsule. So to get to 3g of Omega 3 a day, you need to take 10 capsules. For 4.2g per day, you need to take 14 capsules, and so on. You should spread this over the day rather than taking in one go!
Boots brand are also pretty good, but they are more expensive and don't come with Vitamin E. I used to use them, and they are good, just more expensive than Holland and Barrett. You should have an H&B somewhere near you as they seem to be everywhere!!
Good luck. Hope Omega 3 works out for you,
Helen
I am really happy to hear about the success posted recently, and 'i have a question' is correct, this is still an on going experiment, as it's only been 3 months. Though that seems like a lot we have much still left to figure out.
For instance,
1) Why some people react to o3's faster. And why some people need to take so little to get results, and some of us so much. I have a feeling it's relating to our digestion system and an issue there (just guessing right now). Is it because our bodies are all different and the way we process it is different, or is it really because of other factors? We'll see.
Also
2) How long will it take to fully raise up our o3 levels. Most sites say 3 to 6 months to do it fully with some instant results being blood pressure etc.
3) To what extent will the success reach, depending upon our individual situations and to what point will we hit a "ceiling" where the results stop coming in?
We will find this out in time and research as many of us keep contributing, but this is a good step, the first 3 months are promising, and we'll look forward to the next 3, and so forth, to see what comes up.
Keep us updated!
I'm really happy it's definitely eased our pain to a good extent I'm happy for you guys!
I think this question has been asked but I never have seen the answer for it, so if this has been asked several times I'm sorry. I use ACV as a toner and I want to try and start drinking it again but this won't off set the Fish Oil will it?
No problem This thread is long, questions get lost in there so don't worry. None of us can really be sure how they interfere, but just for precautionary measures, take it at a time where you are not taking fish oil together, just in case.
There are reasons going each way as to why it won't interact and why it will, but I always do things as a precautionary measure in case it does interact.
i can honestly say that i am acne free after 3 months, even my derm said after several courses of tane that i had the most persistant acne he has ever seen. i never had the cystic type though, only mild to moderate. and if it was'nt for Ndnromeo experimenting with different things i would have been back on tane by now. even if i get the odd white head, there is hardly any inflammation, i never had that before, it used to spread like a fire to surrounding areas. so, thanks again :dance:This is really good to hear. What do you do besides take Omega 3 pills? What is the rest of your regimen?
And how did you take 18g of O3?, did you take the liquid form or the capsule form?
i don't really have a regimen. started taking loratadine last week and zantac about 3 days ago, other than that, just taking between 13 g and 18 g of O3 (3 to 4 tablespoons). i do take the liquid fish oil, its easier to take such high doses, and much cheaper to buy here in South Africa than the pills. also get better results on the liquid oil. other than that i eat normal, cereal in the morning, low gi bread for lunch, few nuts, and fish/chicken or vegetarian meals for dinner. eat eggs and pizza over the weekend. because of the nuts and eggs i am able to justify my higher dose of O3, i think. my skin is still a bit oily, however, not really resulting in acne. i'm hoping that will go down as well.
i can honestly say that i am acne free after 3 months, even my derm said after several courses of tane that i had the most persistant acne he has ever seen. i never had the cystic type though, only mild to moderate. and if it was'nt for Ndnromeo experimenting with different things i would have been back on tane by now. even if i get the odd white head, there is hardly any inflammation, i never had that before, it used to spread like a fire to surrounding areas. so, thanks again :dance:This is really good to hear. What do you do besides take Omega 3 pills? What is the rest of your regimen?
And how did you take 18g of O3?, did you take the liquid form or the capsule form?
i don't really have a regimen. started taking loratadine last week and zantac about 3 days ago, other than that, just taking between 13 g and 18 g of O3 (3 to 4 tablespoons). i do take the liquid fish oil, its easier to take such high doses, and much cheaper to buy here in South Africa than the pills. also get better results on the liquid oil. other than that i eat normal, cereal in the morning, low gi bread for lunch, few nuts, and fish/chicken or vegetarian meals for dinner. eat eggs and pizza over the weekend. because of the nuts and eggs i am able to justify my higher dose of O3, i think. my skin is still a bit oily, however, not really resulting in acne. i'm hoping that will go down as well.
Be careful about those doses! that's a lot. How much epa and dha is there for each tablespoon?
I think this question has been asked but I never have seen the answer for it, so if this has been asked several times I'm sorry. I use ACV as a toner and I want to try and start drinking it again but this won't off set the Fish Oil will it?
No one knows. I really doubt that it burns everything. Not all the fish oil we take gets used anyways(i think) so I dont think its a big deal unless you take several tspns a day.
i can honestly say that i am acne free after 3 months, even my derm said after several courses of tane that i had the most persistant acne he has ever seen. i never had the cystic type though, only mild to moderate. and if it was'nt for Ndnromeo experimenting with different things i would have been back on tane by now. even if i get the odd white head, there is hardly any inflammation, i never had that before, it used to spread like a fire to surrounding areas. so, thanks again :dance:This is really good to hear. What do you do besides take Omega 3 pills? What is the rest of your regimen?
And how did you take 18g of O3?, did you take the liquid form or the capsule form?
i don't really have a regimen. started taking loratadine last week and zantac about 3 days ago, other than that, just taking between 13 g and 18 g of O3 (3 to 4 tablespoons). i do take the liquid fish oil, its easier to take such high doses, and much cheaper to buy here in South Africa than the pills. also get better results on the liquid oil. other than that i eat normal, cereal in the morning, low gi bread for lunch, few nuts, and fish/chicken or vegetarian meals for dinner. eat eggs and pizza over the weekend. because of the nuts and eggs i am able to justify my higher dose of O3, i think. my skin is still a bit oily, however, not really resulting in acne. i'm hoping that will go down as well.
Be careful about those doses! that's a lot. How much epa and dha is there for each tablespoon?
1500 mg per teaspoon (tablespoon = 1500 mg x 3), yes, i know, am a bit worried about the high doses, but it really works. maybe you do only absorb what you need while the rest is excreted. how much do the eskimos get in then? wil drop to 9 g again.
Today I upped my daily dosage from 4.2 g to 5.0 g. I think this is enough and I'll just stay at this level. Family is commenting that my face is looking the best it has in a while. I'm only about 5 weeks into it. To those who are just starting, make sure you stick with it!
Does anyone know if it particularly matters how much EPA and DHA there is?
I saw a children's bottle of omega 3 tablets and looked at the info for curiosity's sake, and saw it had DHA = 200mg and EPA = 28mg.
(It may have been the other way round, I can't remember, lol?
But yeah, just wondering if it matters which is most prevelant?
Another example is that I saw a bottle of omgea 3 in Holland and Barrett but it seemed to be concentrating more on EPA.
Any thoughts?
hi helen thankyou so much for this post, i really appreciate it! so do i start on the 3g and then work my way up? if so after how long? also is this ok to do while on accutane...thanks again!
No problem at all. I would start at about 1g per day and up it over a couple of weeks. So long as you don't get any side effects you will be ok. If you do get side effects, just slow down the rate at which you are increasing the dosage. There's no drastic side effects, it's just your body won't be used to levels of Omega 3 initially. Please remember that it may take up to 3 months to see real results. I think I was quite lucky in the improvement I've seen in my skin in such a short time. 5 weeks in, and I'm seeing real results.
I honestly cannot say about the deal with accutane. Generally I would say it should be fine, I'm fairly sure that there are a number of people using Omega 3 and on accutane. But I would ask someone to confirm this for me, as I've never been on accutane so I don't know much about it.
Good luck.
Helen
Yes, the point is to get to 1:1. And that is one of the reasons we tip the scale on one end to start is to get to 1:1 much faster. So let's say in a day you take 3 grams of omega 3 and you get 2 grams of omega 6... (3:2), if you are still at a deficit, it will take months of taking a 3:2 for you to actually get to 3:2 in your body. Know what I mean? So once you get satisfactory results, you can put yourself on a maintenance dose which is really low in relation :). That's the beauty of it, that the high doses are temporary. It's somewhat like dieting. Let's say you're 200 pounds. For one month, you eat like you are a 150... it will take a few months before you actually become 150, even though your diet is one of a 150 pound person 🙂
By the "1:1 logic," won't you be breaking out when your omega-3 levels are high enough? If your levels are becoming in favor of omega 3, lets say 3:1, won't it be the exact same as before, when it was 3:1 omega-6:omega-3 or what have you? If that's true then how come the Inuits don't develop acne, if they probably have a much higher Omega-3 ratio? Does the ratio really matter, or is Omega-3 just better for you than Omega-6 and we should take as much as possible? :think:
Does anyone know if it particularly matters how much EPA and DHA there is?I saw a children's bottle of omega 3 tablets and looked at the info for curiosity's sake, and saw it had DHA = 200mg and EPA = 28mg.
(It may have been the other way round, I can't remember, lol?
But yeah, just wondering if it matters which is most prevelant?
Another example is that I saw a bottle of omgea 3 in Holland and Barrett but it seemed to be concentrating more on EPA.
Any thoughts?
Yes it does matter how much EPA and DHA there are in the supplements. The EPA and DHA added together tell you how much Omega 3 is in each capsule. For example, my tablets are 1000 mg in weight, but there is only 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA, so each tablet only gives me 300mg of Omega 3. To get to 3g of Omega 3 I need to take 10 capsules. And the quantity of Omega 3 you ingest is very important.
The children's capsule's are quite low in EPA, but it doesn't really matter. They're probably way more expensive than regular ones anyway, just because they've put 'Children's capsules' on the bottle.
The ratio of EPA and DHA doesn't really matter, just the overall dosage per capsule. This link shows us that the body can convert between them, so as long as it's in your body you will be benefiting from both:
I take the Holland and Barrett capsules, and they're great. They've got Vitamin E in which is an added bonus, and there is 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA in each capsule. And they're reduced to 1/3 of their normal price at the moment. I've just stocked up on 3 months worth!
Just wanted to mention this. I have had high blood pressure all my life. I have been taking fish oil for maybe 6 months or so along with cvarious other diet changes over the last couple years. I went to the doctor thwe other day for a check up and to my surprise my blood pressure is normal for the first time ever. it was 120 over 68 which is pretty close to the 120-80, which is considered optimal. My doctor had been suggesting medication for wuite a while but I wanted to give fish oil, diet and exercise a chance. It actually worked.
Does anyone know if it particularly matters how much EPA and DHA there is?I saw a children's bottle of omega 3 tablets and looked at the info for curiosity's sake, and saw it had DHA = 200mg and EPA = 28mg.
(It may have been the other way round, I can't remember, lol?
But yeah, just wondering if it matters which is most prevelant?
Another example is that I saw a bottle of omgea 3 in Holland and Barrett but it seemed to be concentrating more on EPA.
Any thoughts?
Yes it does matter how much EPA and DHA there are in the supplements. The EPA and DHA added together tell you how much Omega 3 is in each capsule. For example, my tablets are 1000 mg in weight, but there is only 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA, so each tablet only gives me 300mg of Omega 3. To get to 3g of Omega 3 I need to take 10 capsules. And the quantity of Omega 3 you ingest is very important.
The children's capsule's are quite low in EPA, but it doesn't really matter. They're probably way more expensive than regular ones anyway, just because they've put 'Children's capsules' on the bottle.
The ratio of EPA and DHA doesn't really matter, just the overall dosage per capsule. This link shows us that the body can convert between them, so as long as it's in your body you will be benefiting from both:
I take the Holland and Barrett capsules, and they're great. They've got Vitamin E in which is an added bonus, and there is 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA in each capsule. And they're reduced to 1/3 of their normal price at the moment. I've just stocked up on 3 months worth!
Ah, yes thats a good way to word it...
I meant the ratio.
So the ratio of DHA to EPA doesn't matter?
I've just been taking Boots ones at the mo. May stock up on Holland and Barrett's if they have vit E as well.
But yeah, I was just curious about the ratio, cos it seemed rather squiffy in some of the brands I was looking at today, lol
Just wanted to mention this. I have had high blood pressure all my life. I have been taking fish oil for maybe 6 months or so along with cvarious other diet changes over the last couple years. I went to the doctor thwe other day for a check up and to my surprise my blood pressure is normal for the first time ever. it was 120 over 68 which is pretty close to the 120-80, which is considered optimal. My doctor had been suggesting medication for wuite a while but I wanted to give fish oil, diet and exercise a chance. It actually worked.
That is fantastic news. Did you tell your doctor about what you'd done to change your blood pressure? It's amazing the things that Omega 3 is helping with. Congratulations.
Ah, yes thats a good way to word it...I meant the ratio.
So the ratio of DHA to EPA doesn't matter?
I've just been taking Boots ones at the mo. May stock up on Holland and Barrett's if they have vit E as well.
But yeah, I was just curious about the ratio, cos it seemed rather squiffy in some of the brands I was looking at today, lol
No, it doesn't matter, just the combined total. The Boots ones are good too - I was taking them for a while, but the Holland and Barrett ones are cheaper and have the added Vitamin E. Stock up now! They're on offer til the 27th May.
I've looked in to a lot of brands, and it's difficult to know who to trust. So I'm just sticking with brands that I've heard of before. Boots and Holland and Barrett are 2 of them. I've seen some that have 2.4g of Omega 3 per capsule, but I'm not sure whether to trust the quality of the brand.