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anybody having trouble with clogged pores (flesh colored bumps) since starting fish oil? ever since i started with the fish oil i've had a whole bunch on my forehead that have taken up permanent residence at casa d'ami. hehe. thats the only place though for some strange reason 
other than that my skin is doing much MUCH better with fewer breakouts and much quicker healing time.
anybody having trouble with clogged pores (flesh colored bumps) since starting fish oil? ever since i started with the fish oil i've had a whole bunch on my forehead that have taken up permanent residence at casa d'ami. hehe. thats the only place though for some strange reason :think: other than that my skin is doing much MUCH better with fewer breakouts and much quicker healing time.
I still get clogged pores and that is what I am trying to work on now, grr, so yes I share your pain lol. It's like normal skin people issues, which I don't mind anymore. bumps > white heads!
=)
Hopefully in the next month or two that will stop too. We shall see as fish oil keeps getting into our system.
i switched to another brand of fish oil... my dad had a bottle of liquid he kept in the fridge. i find it much easier to take because i only need 2 teaspoons a day, instead of 12 pills.
BUT... just a question. 1 tsp = 1600 mg omega 3.... 800mg EPA + 500mg DHA + 300mg other omega-3 ...
anyways, what is this "other" omega-3? should i take that into account? if so... then i only need 2 teaspoons a day. if not, then i need 3 tsps. right now im only taking 2... but i wonder.. if the "other" omega-3 does not count... then im under 3 grams.
i switched to another brand of fish oil... my dad had a bottle of liquid he kept in the fridge. i find it much easier to take because i only need 2 teaspoons a day, instead of 12 pills.BUT... just a question. 1 tsp = 1600 mg omega 3.... 800mg EPA + 500mg DHA + 300mg other omega-3 ...
anyways, what is this "other" omega-3? should i take that into account? if so... then i only need 2 teaspoons a day. if not, then i need 3 tsps. right now im only taking 2... but i wonder.. if the "other" omega-3 does not count... then im under 3 grams.
I think the "other" omega 3 is ALA meaning most of it won't be converted (only 15%). So I would take 3
So I've finally hit the 1 month mark. I took between 1 and 3.6 grams a day the first 2 weeks and the past 2 weeks I have been taking 4.2 grams a day. I took Green Tea extracts the first 2 weeks as well but kicked those as soon as I found out they could be interfering with the Fish Oil.To be honest, I havn't noticed much oil reduction in my face. However, for the past week or so my face has looked the clearest it has in months and I probably havn't gotten a new pimple on my face for about a week as well. However, this morning I could see a red area and I was sure that when I got home from school I was going to see a white head. I got home, looked in the mirror, and it had already begun to scab over and go down! It's amazing because in the past it would have just broken out but it's like something "blocked" it and I'm sure that something is the fish oil.
As for food, I've tried to incorporate more fruits and vegetables into my day. I used to eat a whole large pizza by myself every Friday. I used to always eat 2 pieces of cake after every dinner during the week (I'm 5'7 and 125 lbs so I'm not fat - again with the acne/metabolism correlation maybe?). I stopped both of those though. If I want something sweet after dinner I go for the fruit or I might have some low sugar Graham Crackers or something. I don't totally restrict myself though, I still eat some of the "forbidden acne foods" - but it's ok because it's not in excess and I'm pretty sure the food I'm eating isn't breaking me out. I see a bunch of breakfasts people have on here, but I can't do some of them. I'd be starving. This is what I've been eating for breakfast the past week:
2 cinnamon waffles with homemade strawberry juice (lemon juice and some sugar with strawberries soaking in it to flavor it) in place of syrup (If I want syrup I use the reduced sugar kind ), strawberries, light whipped cream, a few sprinkles - and an orange.
See, I'm not eating like only half an apple for breakfast and I'm not getting worse. If anything I'm getting better.
I'm definitely gonna stick with the fish oil. Can't wait to see where I'll be a few months from now
that's great, i can also not restrict my diet like the others on paleo do. just last night i had half a box of smarties, LOL, no major new breakouts today from the sugar overload. grains are another foodstuff that i simply can not give up, no matter how hard i try. you have to still enjoy life and food!
Q What would be the consequences of high doses of Omega-3 in an attempt to displace arachidonic acid?A Given that some of the same enzymes are used to elongate both Omega-3s and Omega-6s, using high doses of Omega-3 in an attempt to displace arachidonic acid may make some sense. Thus, if you ate only minimal linoleic acid (base of Omega-6s) and large amounts of alpha linolenic (base of Omega-3s), the enzymes might be busy elongating the alpha linolenic and make less arachidonic from the linoleic. This may be a strategy worth trying. In addition, there is evidence that consuming the already formed, longer chain omega-3's (EPA and DHA) will inhibit the production of those elongation enzymes, thus inhibiting arachidonate production.
i switched to another brand of fish oil... my dad had a bottle of liquid he kept in the fridge. i find it much easier to take because i only need 2 teaspoons a day, instead of 12 pills.BUT... just a question. 1 tsp = 1600 mg omega 3.... 800mg EPA + 500mg DHA + 300mg other omega-3 ...
anyways, what is this "other" omega-3? should i take that into account? if so... then i only need 2 teaspoons a day. if not, then i need 3 tsps. right now im only taking 2... but i wonder.. if the "other" omega-3 does not count... then im under 3 grams.
I think the "other" omega 3 is ALA meaning most of it won't be converted (only 15%). So I would take 3
okay thanks!
oh and Ndnromeo, i noticed u've up ur dosage to 4.8g. wow thats almost 5grams! is there is like... a maximum? i also eat fish like 4x/week too. i know u cant OD on omega-3 (look at the japanese) but is there such a thing as too much supplementing?
Funny you ask, I just came here to post something based on that 🙂
Q. Is too much DHA dangerous?A: DHA is simply a fatty acid. The average American diet contains 50 - 80 g of fat a day (50,000 - 80,000 mg!). Most of that is in the form of saturated fats, which is much more detrimental to health. It is very unlikely anyone could possibly ingest an equivalent amount of DHA a day. Like any fat, DHA is a source of calories, specifically, 8 calories per gram. Taking a relatively "large" dose of 5 g of DHA would add only 40 calories to the diet. Moreover, the body can absorb only so much fat at one time, and the rest passes through undigested.
It is true, however, that people who subsist on very large amounts of fish, such as the Alaskan Eskimos who's daily fish oil intake is in fact around 50 - 80 grams, do have thinner blood than non-fish eating people.
http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/~lin/DHA/Chapter6.html
Unless you are taking in 50 pills a day, I wouldn't be concerned 😉
And I'm actually higher than 4 grams right now, the faster I cycle, the faster the results, but slowly going up. Just for a couple of weeks because I am much closer. I am spreading it out through the day as well.
also upped my dose somewhere between 7 mg and 10 mg this past week (not exactly sure as i take 4 tablespoons per day, could even be more, hehe). and already i see an improvement. not really having any effects from the increased dose. keeping my fingers crossed that this works.
just bought Nordic Naturals liquid fish oil and i must say to my surprise is pretty easy to take. It is flavored with pure lemon oil and it really goes down easily doesnt taste like fish at all.
1 teaspoon has 825mg epa and 550mg dha, usually that is equal to about 4 regular fish oil pills so its alittle easier then taking a bunch of pills because its so concentrated. Plus i think nordic naturals is the highest quality you can get so I think ive found my brand for life.
i think ndnromeo and ayla have been taking this brand since the beginning of the thread so any praise they have given nordic naturals previously i would have to confirm as nothing less then truthful.
ndnromeo - thanks for the advice about the number of tablets. I'm just a bit rubbish at remember these things! I'm trying 4 in the morning, 2 at lunch, and 4 when I get home. Might include another 2 before bed now. Is there any advantage to spreading them through the day or is it just good practise?
Also, how do you know if the tablets you are taking are good quality? Is there some way to check before you buy them? I know you can do the freezer test, but that's only after you buy them. I've just found this brand in the UK, which means I'll only need to take 2 tablets per day, but I've never heard of the brand before:
http://www.1stvitality.co.uk/acatalog/nutr...y-fish-oil.html
They're a similar price to what I'm paying for now, gram for gram, but many less tablets. And if I buy 3 years worth in one go, it's even less! A20 per bottle, which is 17p a tablet or 34p a day (about US 68cents I think). I don't think I would order that many! But even ordering one bottle would make it 22p a tablet, 44p per day (about US 88cents I think), which is pretty good. No Vitamin E, but I could take it separately.
Thanks!
just bought Nordic Naturals liquid fish oil and i must say to my surprise is pretty easy to take. It is flavored with pure lemon oil and it really goes down easily doesnt taste like fish at all.1 teaspoon has 825mg epa and 550mg dha, usually that is equal to about 4 regular fish oil pills so its alittle easier then taking a bunch of pills because its so concentrated. Plus i think nordic naturals is the highest quality you can get so I think ive found my brand for life.
i think ndnromeo and ayla have been taking this brand since the beginning of the thread so any praise they have given nordic naturals previously i would have to confirm as nothing less then truthful.
Congrats on finding the perfect brand! Must be a great feeling. Unfortunately I haven't tried it yet, ayla I believe is the one that uses it as her brand of choice 🙂 It must be much easier to take too, considering how condensed it is. I'm glad you mention the good taste, I am glad it doesn't have a bad experience to it!
ndnromeo - thanks for the advice about the number of tablets. I'm just a bit rubbish at remember these things! I'm trying 4 in the morning, 2 at lunch, and 4 when I get home. Might include another 2 before bed now. Is there any advantage to spreading them through the day or is it just good practise?Also, how do you know if the tablets you are taking are good quality? Is there some way to check before you buy them? I know you can do the freezer test, but that's only after you buy them. I've just found this brand in the UK, which means I'll only need to take 2 tablets per day, but I've never heard of the brand before:
http://www.1stvitality.co.uk/acatalog/nutr...y-fish-oil.html
They're a similar price to what I'm paying for now, gram for gram, but many less tablets. And if I buy 3 years worth in one go, it's even less! 20 per bottle, which is 17p a tablet or 34p a day (about US 68cents I think). I don't think I would order that many! But even ordering one bottle would make it 22p a tablet, 44p per day (about US 88cents I think), which is pretty good. No Vitamin E, but I could take it separately.
Thanks!
That brand looks a bit shady, so I don't know how reliable it is, unless you've heard of them being pretty widely used. :think:
The advantage to spreading them out is better absorption, and being sure you get a consistent intake. Too much at once could be dangerous, but it may not be. I'm not too sure, just better to be safe 🙂
just bought Nordic Naturals liquid fish oil and i must say to my surprise is pretty easy to take. It is flavored with pure lemon oil and it really goes down easily doesnt taste like fish at all.1 teaspoon has 825mg epa and 550mg dha, usually that is equal to about 4 regular fish oil pills so its alittle easier then taking a bunch of pills because its so concentrated. Plus i think nordic naturals is the highest quality you can get so I think ive found my brand for life.
i think ndnromeo and ayla have been taking this brand since the beginning of the thread so any praise they have given nordic naturals previously i would have to confirm as nothing less then truthful.
Hey,
I am thinking of switching to liquid fish oil too after I am done with this bottle. how much and where did you get yours from? I found one for 18.69 for 8 oz http://order.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/wg-or...LtuAPLdG5RuPPg-
I'm sorry if this finally got answered, but did anyone ever find out if taking Apple Cider Vinegar internally interferes with the Fish Oil in any way?
Not 100% sure, but it may. It's hard to determine, but if you want to take it, take it away from each other and not together to be safe.
oh and Ndnromeo, i noticed u've up ur dosage to 4.8g. wow thats almost 5grams! is there is like... a maximum? i also eat fish like 4x/week too. i know u cant OD on omega-3 (look at the japanese) but is there such a thing as too much supplementing?Funny you ask, I just came here to post something based on that 🙂
Q. Is too much DHA dangerous?A: DHA is simply a fatty acid. The average American diet contains 50 - 80 g of fat a day (50,000 - 80,000 mg!). Most of that is in the form of saturated fats, which is much more detrimental to health. It is very unlikely anyone could possibly ingest an equivalent amount of DHA a day. Like any fat, DHA is a source of calories, specifically, 8 calories per gram. Taking a relatively "large" dose of 5 g of DHA would add only 40 calories to the diet. Moreover, the body can absorb only so much fat at one time, and the rest passes through undigested.
It is true, however, that people who subsist on very large amounts of fish, such as the Alaskan Eskimos who's daily fish oil intake is in fact around 50 - 80 grams, do have thinner blood than non-fish eating people.
http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/~lin/DHA/Chapter6.html
Unless you are taking in 50 pills a day, I wouldn't be concerned 😉
And I'm actually higher than 4 grams right now, the faster I cycle, the faster the results, but slowly going up. Just for a couple of weeks because I am much closer. I am spreading it out through the day as well.
interesting... okay. well its funny how we get concerned about OD on awesome stuff like omega-3.... yet are not concerned with other harmful things we intake (this is a generalization). lol
okay i think i will start 4 tsp now... which will be 5.2g.
oh and Ndnromeo, i noticed u've up ur dosage to 4.8g. wow thats almost 5grams! is there is like... a maximum? i also eat fish like 4x/week too. i know u cant OD on omega-3 (look at the japanese) but is there such a thing as too much supplementing?Funny you ask, I just came here to post something based on that 🙂
Q. Is too much DHA dangerous?A: DHA is simply a fatty acid. The average American diet contains 50 - 80 g of fat a day (50,000 - 80,000 mg!). Most of that is in the form of saturated fats, which is much more detrimental to health. It is very unlikely anyone could possibly ingest an equivalent amount of DHA a day. Like any fat, DHA is a source of calories, specifically, 8 calories per gram. Taking a relatively "large" dose of 5 g of DHA would add only 40 calories to the diet. Moreover, the body can absorb only so much fat at one time, and the rest passes through undigested.
It is true, however, that people who subsist on very large amounts of fish, such as the Alaskan Eskimos who's daily fish oil intake is in fact around 50 - 80 grams, do have thinner blood than non-fish eating people.
http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/~lin/DHA/Chapter6.html
Unless you are taking in 50 pills a day, I wouldn't be concerned 😉
And I'm actually higher than 4 grams right now, the faster I cycle, the faster the results, but slowly going up. Just for a couple of weeks because I am much closer. I am spreading it out through the day as well.
interesting... okay. well its funny how we get concerned about OD on awesome stuff like omega-3.... yet are not concerned with other harmful things we intake (this is a generalization). lol
okay i think i will start 4 tsp now... which will be 5.2g.
I know seriously, even subway advertises "Only 5 grams of fat!" but if it's 5 grams of omega 3, people get scared lol.
The key is just go up slowly, our bodies aren't used to o3 levels as we are to o6 levels. If we had no o6 up till now from birth, and then started taking it, we'd probably have to up it slowly too =) But eventually the body adjusts to it well. Like today, I upped another gram, if I up it more, I start feeling minimal side effects again, but eventually it goes away but the key is slowly doing it, and it will be fine.
one thing you must rememeber. if you taketoo much. sivne the are polunsaturated fats, which prodcue free radiacls inthe body. if you are not eating enough of fruits and vegs fro antioxidants. taking too much could actually increas inflammation by the free radicals from the poly fats in it.
one thing you must rememeber. if you taketoo much. sivne the are polunsaturated fats, which prodcue free radiacls inthe body. if you are not eating enough of fruits and vegs fro antioxidants. taking too much could actually increas inflammation by the free radicals from the poly fats in it.
They contain vitamin e, so it prevents free radical damage 🙂
So i've been taking 1 fish oil capsule for a while now, probably 3 weeks. Yesterday I upped to 2 capsules so my total omega three intake is now at 2.5gs a day. Unfortunately im one of those who breaks out from fish oil because ive had 0 omega 3's for my whole life basically. I'm still getting some body acne (i never break out on my arms, so i know it was fish oil 
), but its hard to say if its decreasing. But it hasn't bothered me to the point of stopping, so 
we'll see how it goes after 1-2 months.. if im still breaking out then ill decrease to 1 capsule every other day or something.
Okay I decided to ramp up my dosage to ~4g when I usually took 1-1.5. One quick question, should I try to get as close to 1:1 3to6 as possible or will 4g be enough. I'm guessing most of the time I'll be able to keep it decently even but I ate a salad today and looked up the omega3/6 of sesame dressing and it has 3000mg of 6 and like 300 of omega3 in 1 tbsp. That's so damn much! I'd have to take another 6 pills to make up for that... :[ I guess I'll use Ranch from now on since that has alot smaller amount of omega 6.
So i've been taking 1 fish oil capsule for a while now, probably 3 weeks. Yesterday I upped to 2 capsules so my total omega three intake is now at 2.5gs a day. Unfortunately im one of those who breaks out from fish oil because ive had 0 omega 3's for my whole life basically. I'm still getting some body acne (i never break out on my arms, so i know it was fish oil :X), but its hard to say if its decreasing. But it hasn't bothered me to the point of stopping, so 🙂 we'll see how it goes after 1-2 months.. if im still breaking out then ill decrease to 1 capsule every other day or something.
Wait a second... how is one capsule one gram of omega 3? If you're taking 2 capsules, that's 2 grams of FISH oil, and .6 grams of omega 3. Read the back of the bottle, tell me how much omega 3 it has. If you aren't sure how to read it, click on the first post and find the section that talks about it. I think you were doing it wrong...
And 2 weeks won't tell you anything, usually.
Ok say you bought the holland and barret capsules. Your taking around 13 or 14 capsules a day to get around the recommended 4g of omega 3. But if it also contains vitamin E is it safe to consume that much Vitamin E? I tried to look on the site as to how much vitamin e is in each capsule but the view label link would not work for me.
Yes, it's fine, they only contain so little
Okay I decided to ramp up my dosage to ~4g when I usually took 1-1.5. One quick question, should I try to get as close to 1:1 3to6 as possible or will 4g be enough. I'm guessing most of the time I'll be able to keep it decently even but I ate a salad today and looked up the omega3/6 of sesame dressing and it has 3000mg of 6 and like 300 of omega3 in 1 tbsp. That's so damn much! I'd have to take another 6 pills to make up for that... :[ I guess I'll use Ranch from now on since that has alot smaller amount of omega 6.
I wouldn't make that jump too fast, spread it over a couple of weeks.
If you want a good option, use vinaigrettes for dressing or vinegars like raspberry vinegar
Ok say you bought the holland and barret capsules. Your taking around 13 or 14 capsules a day to get around the recommended 4g of omega 3. But if it also contains vitamin E is it safe to consume that much Vitamin E? I tried to look on the site as to how much vitamin e is in each capsule but the view label link would not work for me.
The Holland and Barrett capsules that I've mentioned above each contain 0.74mg of Vitamin E in them. Various sources suggest a RDA (recommended daily allowance) of between 8mg and 15mg, depending on whose RDA you want to accept. I take 10 of these capsules a day, giving me 3g of Omega 3 and 7.4mg of Vitamin E. Plenty room for manoeuvre if I want to increase to 4g of Omega 3. Also, Vitamin E is excellent for skin, and the Vitamin E found in the Holland and Barrett capsules is alpha-tocopherol, which is the best form of Vitamin E you can get for your body. It's most easily absorbed so you get most benefit from the antioxidant effect:
http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/983211401.html
This also counteracts the free radical release as mentioned in the thread a few posts above. You can see from this link that the RDA for Vitamin E is 22 International Units for men and women over the age of 19. Holland and Barrett's capsules contain 1.1 IU each. Again, plenty room for manoeuvre.
A second link also suggests that it's almost impossible for anyone to overdose on Vitamin E, and that long term intake of up to 10g a day does not cause any harm. It does state that some people get stomach problems if they take more than 1g per day though:
http://www.independentliving.co.uk/vitamin3.html#vite
Even taking 13 Holland and Barrett capsules a day, you are not rising above this 1g per day. On my current 10, I have noticed no stomach problems.
At the end of the day, everything you do to combat your acne is weighing up pros and cons, weighing up risks vs benefits. These capsules are providing you with substances that your body needs anyway, you will just be taking them at a higher dosage than people 'feel' you should. I think it's the idea of taking 12 capsules a day that makes you feel like you are overdosing. If you did it with paracetamol, you'd be dead shortly. But as I said before, these are natural vitamins and fats that you need in your diet anyway. Treatment for any medical condition has risks, but I think Vitamin E and Omega 3 are two of the safest medical treatments around.
Helen
Just to addhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/10/...ain654887.shtml
I've only been researching vitamin e for a short time but things like that do sound a bit worrying. Plus I imagine 13-14 capsules of those from holland and barret contain a lot of vitamin E overall (much more than the amount the article describes as the upper limit). However, I still dont know how much is in each individual capsule.
Sorry, I've just noticed your second posting about this.
As a direct quote from that website:
Vitamin E hasn't proven to be good for the heart, and now a study suggests that too much vitamin E daily doses of 400 IU or more actually increases the risk of dying, according to new findings.
400 IU?!! To reach that amount of Vitamin E using the Holland and Barrett capsules, you'd need to be taking 363 capsules per day (that's one every 4 minutes for those interested). Although it would provide you with 108g of Omega 3 (think how great your skin would be :think: ), I think you would probably die of having to drink too much water to swallow the capsules before the Vitamin E or Omega 3 would harm you!
Loads of scientific reports come out every year about things that will harm or kill you. As a scientist myself, I know lots of these reports are just to get scientists names in the press and to boost their profiles as published scientists. It's difficult to know the truth behind them, so I realise you must be cautious about these things. But it's always worth reading more into a subject than one report. Too much of anything will kill you; water, carrots, sunshine, cute puppies. It's about taking everything in moderation and weighing up the risks and advantages.
Helen