Omega 3, 6, and 9 F...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Omega 3, 6, and 9 Fatty Acids

 
MemberMember
0
(@mr-bigger)

Posted : 05/05/2007 11:00 pm

NdnRomeo,

 

I discovered the Green Smoothie thread, and thought it wouldnt hurt to try that as well. This wouldn't delay my results with the fish oils would it?

 

I used 2 apples, 2 small cucumbers, 2 glasses of cranberry juice, and a handful of broccoli.

 

I don't eat vergatbles or fruits through out the day, with the exception of an apple here and there, so I thought making the green smoothies would be a healthy addition to the routine.

Quote
MemberMember
1
(@lilo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 7:34 am

Ok, so i got the cetaphil. NdnRomeo, do you use it with water or without (for the moisturizing effect)? i got some nutraderm lotion (same make as the cetaphil) to moisturize, as i was not sure if a cleanser will moisturize my skin adequately.

Noo, cetaphil, as in the moisturizer 😆

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Sensitive_Skin-...isplay_~reviews

And I found nutriderm to be on a list of bad products 🙁

🙂 Sorry for the confusion :). I hope you can still take it back or use it if possible (as a cleanser).

 

oops, i wanted to get the cetaphil moisturizer, but i don't think it is available in SA (there was one but only for men, wasn't sure it contained an after-shave or something). so far the nutraderm does not seem too bad (will probably only know in a few days), i only use a drop. i did not find it listed on the treatment options of this website at all? anyway, all is not lost, i can still use it on my legs if it makes my face worse.

Quote
MemberMember
8
(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 9:12 am

the link shows that the sams brand contain 1000mg instead of 300mg

It contains 1000 mg of fish oil, but the omega 3 content (epa and dha) is 300 mg 🙂

 

So the only beneficial thing is the 300mg of Omega 3? The other 700mg is wasted?

 

No, .5 grams is saturated fat, which is in there for proper uptake of the omega 3 (we need sat fat to better absorb unsat fats like omega 3's).

Quote
MemberMember
8
(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 9:24 am

NdnRomeo,

I discovered the Green Smoothie thread, and thought it wouldnt hurt to try that as well. This wouldn't delay my results with the fish oils would it?

I used 2 apples, 2 small cucumbers, 2 glasses of cranberry juice, and a handful of broccoli.

I don't eat vergatbles or fruits through out the day, with the exception of an apple here and there, so I thought making the green smoothies would be a healthy addition to the routine.

Oh no not at all, it should be beneficial and they are completely compatible.

 

Ok, so i got the cetaphil. NdnRomeo, do you use it with water or without (for the moisturizing effect)? i got some nutraderm lotion (same make as the cetaphil) to moisturize, as i was not sure if a cleanser will moisturize my skin adequately.

Noo, cetaphil, as in the moisturizer 😆

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Sensitive_Skin-...isplay_~reviews

And I found nutriderm to be on a list of bad products 🙁

🙂 Sorry for the confusion :). I hope you can still take it back or use it if possible (as a cleanser).

 

oops, i wanted to get the cetaphil moisturizer, but i don't think it is available in SA (there was one but only for men, wasn't sure it contained an after-shave or something). so far the nutraderm does not seem too bad (will probably only know in a few days), i only use a drop. i did not find it listed on the treatment options of this website at all? anyway, all is not lost, i can still use it on my legs if it makes my face worse.

 

SA? I'm not too sure what it stands for, I could probably guess but I'd be wrong 😆

Yeah no worries, I bought lubriderm once too 🙂 So if it doesn't work so well, you can definitely use it for something else, you can probably never have too much lotion lol

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@wang-chung)

Posted : 05/06/2007 10:07 am

So...since my skin is looking pretty good I've decided to take a gamble and begin to supplement with those vegetable multiplexes. I took two last night, four hours apart from fish oil and with a meal, as directed. This morning things are looking about the same. I originally was a little hesitant because I took green tea along with fish oil and it hindered the effects, so I'm hoping that this won't do the same. I'm also taking them at separated intervals every 4 hours (which I wasn't doing with the green tea). I'll let you all know how it goes in about a week (or if I notice something before then).

Quote
MemberMember
8
(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 10:33 am

So...since my skin is looking pretty good I've decided to take a gamble and begin to supplement with those vegetable multiplexes. I took two last night, four hours apart from fish oil and with a meal, as directed. This morning things are looking about the same. I originally was a little hesitant because I took green tea along with fish oil and it hindered the effects, so I'm hoping that this won't do the same. I'm also taking them at separated intervals every 4 hours (which I wasn't doing with the green tea). I'll let you all know how it goes in about a week (or if I notice something before then).

You should be fine taking it at the same time too, since green tea effects omega 3 because of the polyphenol content that blocks fat absorption directly =)

Keep us updated!

Quote
MemberMember
1
(@lilo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 11:23 am

NdnRomeo,

I discovered the Green Smoothie thread, and thought it wouldnt hurt to try that as well. This wouldn't delay my results with the fish oils would it?

I used 2 apples, 2 small cucumbers, 2 glasses of cranberry juice, and a handful of broccoli.

I don't eat vergatbles or fruits through out the day, with the exception of an apple here and there, so I thought making the green smoothies would be a healthy addition to the routine.

Oh no not at all, it should be beneficial and they are completely compatible.

 

Ok, so i got the cetaphil. NdnRomeo, do you use it with water or without (for the moisturizing effect)? i got some nutraderm lotion (same make as the cetaphil) to moisturize, as i was not sure if a cleanser will moisturize my skin adequately.

South Africa

Noo, cetaphil, as in the moisturizer 😆

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Sensitive_Skin-...isplay_~reviews

And I found nutriderm to be on a list of bad products 🙁

🙂 Sorry for the confusion :). I hope you can still take it back or use it if possible (as a cleanser).

 

oops, i wanted to get the cetaphil moisturizer, but i don't think it is available in SA (there was one but only for men, wasn't sure it contained an after-shave or something). so far the nutraderm does not seem too bad (will probably only know in a few days), i only use a drop. i did not find it listed on the treatment options of this website at all? anyway, all is not lost, i can still use it on my legs if it makes my face worse.

 

SA? I'm not too sure what it stands for, I could probably guess but I'd be wrong 😆

Yeah no worries, I bought lubriderm once too 🙂 So if it doesn't work so well, you can definitely use it for something else, you can probably never have too much lotion lol

 

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@black_converse)

Posted : 05/06/2007 11:24 am

 

Question! can the paleo diet help me gain weight? Im so skinny and so tired of it. Its killing me because its like i feel i have to choose between gaining weight ( eating WHEATS, vegi's, meats, furits) or getting clear skin (eatin everything i listed except the wheats). Should i really stay away from wheats even if there 100% whole wheat? or can i still gain weight eating the paleo diet? do i really need wheat to gain weight? if i really do have to choose, im choosing the clear skin!!! but please anyone if you can help answer my questions? THANK YOU!

Quote
MemberMember
1
(@lilo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 11:26 am

NdnRomeo,

I discovered the Green Smoothie thread, and thought it wouldnt hurt to try that as well. This wouldn't delay my results with the fish oils would it?

I used 2 apples, 2 small cucumbers, 2 glasses of cranberry juice, and a handful of broccoli.

I don't eat vergatbles or fruits through out the day, with the exception of an apple here and there, so I thought making the green smoothies would be a healthy addition to the routine.

Oh no not at all, it should be beneficial and they are completely compatible.

 

Ok, so i got the cetaphil. NdnRomeo, do you use it with water or without (for the moisturizing effect)? i got some nutraderm lotion (same make as the cetaphil) to moisturize, as i was not sure if a cleanser will moisturize my skin adequately.

South Africa

Noo, cetaphil, as in the moisturizer 😆

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Sensitive_Skin-...isplay_~reviews

And I found nutriderm to be on a list of bad products 🙁

🙂 Sorry for the confusion :). I hope you can still take it back or use it if possible (as a cleanser).

 

oops, i wanted to get the cetaphil moisturizer, but i don't think it is available in SA (there was one but only for men, wasn't sure it contained an after-shave or something). so far the nutraderm does not seem too bad (will probably only know in a few days), i only use a drop. i did not find it listed on the treatment options of this website at all? anyway, all is not lost, i can still use it on my legs if it makes my face worse.

 

SA? I'm not too sure what it stands for, I could probably guess but I'd be wrong 😆

Yeah no worries, I bought lubriderm once too 🙂 So if it doesn't work so well, you can definitely use it for something else, you can probably never have too much lotion lol

 

South Africa

thinking of purchasing the Paleo Diet Book for Acne, any thoughts?

Quote
MemberMember
8
(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 11:31 am

Question! can the paleo diet help me gain weight? Im so skinny and so tired of it. Its killing me because its like i feel i have to choose between gaining weight ( eating WHEATS, vegi's, meats, furits) or getting clear skin (eatin everything i listed except the wheats). Should i really stay away from wheats even if there 100% whole wheat? or can i still gain weight eating the paleo diet? do i really need wheat to gain weight? if i really do have to choose, im choosing the clear skin!!! but please anyone if you can help answer my questions? THANK YOU!

Hello there,

I understand your concern and I am trying to work my way into finding methods where we can steal eat the foods we want and avoid any inflammatory responses.

But this is what you should immediately do. I have the same problem as you. So find out your age and height and see how many calories you need to gain weight. Next, see what you eat on a regular basis and write out the calories in your diet. Chances are you are eating less, so for a week exceed that amount and see if you gain some weight. Chances are you will.

As for avoiding foods, it's a hard question to answer since we may not even know what food sensitivities we have, or even if we have any at all that leads to inflammation and oily skin.

So first and foremost try attaining the clear skin diet, if it does indeed work, start incorporating foods that you suspect causes acne. If nothing happens, add some more in there, etc. I say cover all the bases and be 100% safe, then start including some questionable things in there.

Again, I know it's harder than it seems because even I cannot eliminate dairy and gluten but if you could do that, that could give yourself more answers than even we can give you about your own body.

Hope that helps.

 

South Africa

thinking of purchasing the Paleo Diet Book for Acne, any thoughts?

Thanks!

Autonomous and listener will be the best people to ask for this, I believe they are following this well. Even 'notadoctor' is as well. He has a thread on it too. Maybe instead of purchasing it, they can give you a general overview on the basic principles. :think:

Quote
MemberMember
1
(@lilo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 12:06 pm

it's so typical of me, after a month on O3 with little improvement, i wan't to throw in the towel. well, i'm not going to! need to stick this out for at least 3 months. don't like meat all that much, will find the Paleo diet depressing, i think. maybe i should just increase my water intake with more salads / vegetables this week and see what happens.

Quote
MemberMember
8
(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 2:22 pm

it's so typical of me, after a month on O3 with little improvement, i wan't to throw in the towel. well, i'm not going to! need to stick this out for at least 3 months. don't like meat all that much, will find the Paleo diet depressing, i think. maybe i should just increase my water intake with more salads / vegetables this week and see what happens.

How many grams are you taking? What's your diet like?

Also, don't forget, this isn't an acne medication, it's not something you cant want to give up since it's a macronutrient your body needs to function properly, much like protein, or carbohydrates, it's the third part: healthy fats. It has as many benefits as water. It's kind of like saying, "after a month of drinking 10 glasses of water a day, I am going to stop/drink less". You can't do that since it's essential =P hehe. Well, you can, since you can't die from stopping efa's, but it will probably hurt your body. :think:

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@weenie-beenie)

Posted : 05/06/2007 3:13 pm

I look forward to getting to the point where I only have to 6 fish oil pills a day as opposed to 12

Quote
MemberMember
8
(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 3:22 pm

I look forward to getting to the point where I only have to 6 fish oil pills a day as opposed to 12

As long as we find what work the best, I won't mind quantity, but I know for sure that we won't have to stay at high levels. I am almost at a point where I can decrease, but not yet, my body is still omega 3 deficient, but not by much. So keep patient, we'll get through this.

Quote
MemberMember
15
(@autonomousone1980)

Posted : 05/06/2007 3:49 pm

Question! can the paleo diet help me gain weight? Im so skinny and so tired of it. Its killing me because its like i feel i have to choose between gaining weight ( eating WHEATS, vegi's, meats, furits) or getting clear skin (eatin everything i listed except the wheats). Should i really stay away from wheats even if there 100% whole wheat? or can i still gain weight eating the paleo diet? do i really need wheat to gain weight? if i really do have to choose, im choosing the clear skin!!! but please anyone if you can help answer my questions? THANK YOU!

well for you i would suggest a fat ratio of 4:1 of o6-o3 so you can get alot of fat calories from monounsaturated fats such as nuts and avocados.

Just one can of cashews ~$3.50, is roughly 1500 calories and about 1000 of those calories are from fat alone, by adding this to your current diet you will find it SOOO easy to get the calories you need to gain weight and even pack on some muscle if thats also your goal. The key is to take enough Omega 3 from fish oil, to balance the omega 6 so it doesnt affect your inflammatory response in a bad way.

this will allow you to eat lots of calories without getting them from carbs, even though there carbs in nuts as well, you wont be getting the majority of your calories from carbs and therefore you will still be very much within the confines of the paleo diet which is to avoid insulin spikes, you will barely be using insulin at all. Plus you can eats nuts anywhere anytime.

This is a double benefit as abnormal insulin is linked with tons of age related diseases and the lack of insulin levels are associated with a much longer healthier life.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@mr-bigger)

Posted : 05/06/2007 4:07 pm

Question! can the paleo diet help me gain weight? Im so skinny and so tired of it. Its killing me because its like i feel i have to choose between gaining weight ( eating WHEATS, vegi's, meats, furits) or getting clear skin (eatin everything i listed except the wheats). Should i really stay away from wheats even if there 100% whole wheat? or can i still gain weight eating the paleo diet? do i really need wheat to gain weight? if i really do have to choose, im choosing the clear skin!!! but please anyone if you can help answer my questions? THANK YOU!

well for you i would suggest a fat ratio of 4:1 of o6-o3 so you can get alot of fat calories from monounsaturated fats such as nuts and avocados.

Just one can of cashews ~$3.50, is roughly 1500 calories and about 1000 of those calories are from fat alone, by adding this to your current diet you will find it SOOO easy to get the calories you need to gain weight and even pack on some muscle if thats also your goal. The key is to take enough Omega 3 from fish oil, to balance the omega 6 so it doesnt affect your inflammatory response in a bad way.

this will allow you to eat lots of calories without getting them from carbs, even though there carbs in nuts as well, you wont be getting the majority of your calories from carbs and therefore you will still be very much within the confines of the paleo diet which is to avoid insulin spikes, you will barely be using insulin at all. Plus you can eats nuts anywhere anytime.

This is a double benefit as abnormal insulin is linked with tons of age related diseases and the lack of insulin levels are associated with a much longer healthier life.

 

Is it ok to eat cashew nuts, dry roasted, without salt added? As opposed to raw? Which would recommend? I am also looking to pack on a few pounds and stay clear at the same time.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@mr-bigger)

Posted : 05/06/2007 4:14 pm

By the way I just looked up cashews on the Nutrition Facts website, and it has a shitload of Omega 6! So it would throw off the Omega 3 ratio waaaay off.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@bigbeauty)

Posted : 05/06/2007 5:29 pm

By the way I just looked up cashews on the Nutrition Facts website, and it has a shitload of Omega 6! So it would throw off the Omega 3 ratio waaaay off.

Yeah, I'd use nuts with caution. Even if you still theorectically "balance" with fish oil, I think there has to be some threshold where too much is just too much. Personally for me even if I'm at the same ratio, I break out for from nuts and seem oilier. It could be I'm allergic, but the same happens if I have a lot of vegetable oil (also loaded with o6).

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@bigbeauty)

Posted : 05/06/2007 5:35 pm

I found this interesting, not sure if its been posted before. I'm not sure how credible the source is or where it originates from but seems to make sense:

 

http://www.howweheal.com/fat.htm

20. It appears that individual needs for EFAs in the diet may vary considerably. Ancestry no doubt plays a huge role in this individuality. Saturated fats are far more stable than monounsaturated fats, which in turn are more stable than polyunsaturated fats such as the EFAs. The melting point of saturated fats is higher than that of mononsaturated fats, which in turn is higher than that of polyunsaturated fats. Compare, for example, butter, olive oil, and flax oil. Rancidity is a greater concern as temperature increases. Flexibility becomes a greater concern as temperature decreases. If we observe both plants and animals at various latitudes and climates, it is clear that there is a tradeoff between chemical stability and flexibility, with different results in different climates or latitudes. In warmer climates and lower latitudes, saturated fats tend to predominate as rancidity becomes the greater issue. In colder climates and higher latitudes, a lack of flexibility becomes the greater issue, and thus polyunsaturated fats tend to predominate. In the middle latitudes, monounsaturated fats may make the most sense. The food chain in colder climates thus tends to have a much greater EFA content than that in warmer climates. Therefore, for example, a person of Scandinavian ancestry may require far more EFAs in the diet than a person of Indian ancestry, for the simple reason that their ancestral diets were vastly different as far as EFA content.

 

I'm of northern European ancestry, guess I'll have to up the dosage!

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@bigbeauty)

Posted : 05/06/2007 5:41 pm

Question! can the paleo diet help me gain weight? Im so skinny and so tired of it. Its killing me because its like i feel i have to choose between gaining weight ( eating WHEATS, vegi's, meats, furits) or getting clear skin (eatin everything i listed except the wheats). Should i really stay away from wheats even if there 100% whole wheat? or can i still gain weight eating the paleo diet? do i really need wheat to gain weight? if i really do have to choose, im choosing the clear skin!!! but please anyone if you can help answer my questions? THANK YOU!

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'd say try the paleo diet hardcore (but monitor nuts closely) for a month or something and then worry about your weight. If you don't have miraculous skin in a month, try slowly introducing low glycemic load whole grains for the calories. I did this, but ate a ton of nuts to get the needed calories in the first month, and my skin didn't improve at all, maybe was worse. However, right now after being 100% nut free for the past week but eating some oats and ezekiel bread here and there, my skin has definitely improved.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@wang-chung)

Posted : 05/06/2007 6:21 pm

Question! can the paleo diet help me gain weight? Im so skinny and so tired of it. Its killing me because its like i feel i have to choose between gaining weight ( eating WHEATS, vegi's, meats, furits) or getting clear skin (eatin everything i listed except the wheats). Should i really stay away from wheats even if there 100% whole wheat? or can i still gain weight eating the paleo diet? do i really need wheat to gain weight? if i really do have to choose, im choosing the clear skin!!! but please anyone if you can help answer my questions? THANK YOU!

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'd say try the paleo diet hardcore (but monitor nuts closely) for a month or something and then worry about your weight. If you don't have miraculous skin in a month, try slowly introducing low glycemic load whole grains for the calories. I did this, but ate a ton of nuts to get the needed calories in the first month, and my skin didn't improve at all, maybe was worse. However, right now after being 100% nut free for the past week but eating some oats and ezekiel bread here and there, my skin has definitely improved.

 

Yeah, if you're gonna be eating a lot of nuts there's really no point in taking fish oil as nuts have an EXTREMELY high o6:o3 ratio. I don't think you'll notice the effects of taking o3 until the ratio is closer to 1:1, so try staying away from nuts, avocados, and anything else really high in o6.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@weenie-beenie)

Posted : 05/06/2007 6:47 pm

Oh man, I've been eating alot of Olive Oil and Italian Bread lately and I just found out that Olive Oil is high in Omega 6. I should have known

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@dancedd)

Posted : 05/06/2007 7:40 pm

Oh man, I've been eating alot of Olive Oil and Italian Bread lately and I just found out that Olive Oil is high in Omega 6. I should have known

HOly shit. I thought it was the healthy oil. :shifty: I though it had alot of omega 9 not 6. I just looked it up and it does have ALOT of omega 6. I guess fish oil is the only oil that is healthy and with omega 3.

Quote
MemberMember
0
(@kev-geno)

Posted : 05/06/2007 8:05 pm

This might have been mentioned before, but is there any adverse to taking fish oil (short term or long term)?

 

Aside from thinning of blood of course.

Quote
MemberMember
8
(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 05/06/2007 8:09 pm

This might have been mentioned before, but is there any adverse to taking fish oil (short term or long term)?

Aside from thinning of blood of course.

Nope

lol, I'm seriously trying to think, but I cannot think of anything.

Quote