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(@doppleganger)

Posted : 04/04/2007 12:59 am

I keep reading about how taking more than 3 grams of omega 3 in a day can increase the risk of hemorrhagic stroke. So I think 3 grams a day is fine, I may do 9 pills then, but 10 is good for now. 12 is overkill, but it did work for sure. But just for the measure of being safe, I will keep it at 9 to 10.

I think you are forgetting that just one pound of salmon will contain 15 gms of omega 3 fat alone and a pound of salmon isnt all that much to eat you could realistically eat that in a day, so 15 grams of omega 3 fat is definitly ok.

 

Hm true, makes sense. Would there be any way to find studies showing this issue with how sites are saying that how taking more than 3 grams of omega 3 may put you at risk for hemorrhagic stroke is not true? I can't find anything, but I am sure what they mean is a lot more, like the 5 to 6 grams range right?

 

On Sunday I took 1.8 grams of O-3 (which is also 4000mg of fish oil) within a 12-hour period, and I don't know if it was a scary coincidence but I experienced several moments of heart palpitations overnight. Which is strange considering I stayed it the whole day, drank a lot of water...........but didn't get around to eating much as I wasn't that hungry. I was going to take at least 1 pill this morning but I honestly was paranoid as hell so decided to let my body rest for at least 24 hours.

BTW, I've been taking GNC-brand 1000mg fish oil caplets (w/ 300mg of O-3/each). Also, is it safe or suggested to store these pills inside a fridge??? The GNC page for these pills mentions I should do so, but the label on the bottle doesn't. I just wonder if all the cold and moisture of the inside of the fridge would damage/alter the pills.

And to think, I'm not even taking the minimum amount suggested by the "Boss Man" around here, 6 pills. I just hope that this was a coincidential scare.

You took in 4 pills, so it's 1.2 grams. But that's strange, do you have any fish allergies? It should actually help with irregular heart beats

 

Woops, guess I'm forgetting how to count. But yes, that is how much I've been taking a day these last few days (due to my irregular sleeping schedule in which I sleep through a potential 3rd dosage time...............can't help it I'm a deep sleeper). And no, I don't think I have any fish allergies, but then again I rarely eat seafood. I hope it was just a coincidence. But damn "Boss Man", those current dosages you're taking sound borderline deadly. I personally don't think I could handle them at all in this point and time without being rushed to a hospital. Like I said, I don't eat as much as I'd like, but yet am still hesistant at pigging out because DAMMIT this acne has got me by my balls. But like you, I too let loose during the weekends. I wonder though, how would one go about following this fish oil/green tea extract regimen if they were to have an active social life (clubbing, drinking, eating, ****ing)??? How would one be able to fit in the regimen inbetween all of this without conflicts or possible side effects (specifically with drinking)??? Right now I only have college and nothing much else. If people without acne or knowledge of it were to read about how much do we go out of our way to control it here on these boards, they wouldn't believe it.

And again, is it preferable to store my pills in the fridge or outside of it??? Until I feel that this fish oil regimen is a solid investment, I'm not investing in anything else. Luckily I got a derm appointment on the 12th, and look forward to making the most of it, including asking them questions about fish oil and green tea extract. But then again, derms aren't always the "be all, end all" solution to acne or much anything else. :confused:

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Posted : 04/04/2007 2:17 am

I keep reading about how taking more than 3 grams of omega 3 in a day can increase the risk of hemorrhagic stroke. So I think 3 grams a day is fine, I may do 9 pills then, but 10 is good for now. 12 is overkill, but it did work for sure. But just for the measure of being safe, I will keep it at 9 to 10.

I think you are forgetting that just one pound of salmon will contain 15 gms of omega 3 fat alone and a pound of salmon isnt all that much to eat you could realistically eat that in a day, so 15 grams of omega 3 fat is definitly ok.

 

Hm true, makes sense. Would there be any way to find studies showing this issue with how sites are saying that how taking more than 3 grams of omega 3 may put you at risk for hemorrhagic stroke is not true? I can't find anything, but I am sure what they mean is a lot more, like the 5 to 6 grams range right?

 

On Sunday I took 1.8 grams of O-3 (which is also 4000mg of fish oil) within a 12-hour period, and I don't know if it was a scary coincidence but I experienced several moments of heart palpitations overnight. Which is strange considering I stayed it the whole day, drank a lot of water...........but didn't get around to eating much as I wasn't that hungry. I was going to take at least 1 pill this morning but I honestly was paranoid as hell so decided to let my body rest for at least 24 hours.

BTW, I've been taking GNC-brand 1000mg fish oil caplets (w/ 300mg of O-3/each). Also, is it safe or suggested to store these pills inside a fridge??? The GNC page for these pills mentions I should do so, but the label on the bottle doesn't. I just wonder if all the cold and moisture of the inside of the fridge would damage/alter the pills.

And to think, I'm not even taking the minimum amount suggested by the "Boss Man" around here, 6 pills. I just hope that this was a coincidential scare.

You took in 4 pills, so it's 1.2 grams. But that's strange, do you have any fish allergies? It should actually help with irregular heart beats

 

Woops, guess I'm forgetting how to count. But yes, that is how much I've been taking a day these last few days (due to my irregular sleeping schedule in which I sleep through a potential 3rd dosage time...............can't help it I'm a deep sleeper). And no, I don't think I have any fish allergies, but then again I rarely eat seafood. I hope it was just a coincidence. But damn "Boss Man", those current dosages you're taking sound borderline deadly. I personally don't think I could handle them at all in this point and time without being rushed to a hospital. Like I said, I don't eat as much as I'd like, but yet am still hesistant at pigging out because DAMMIT this acne has got me by my balls. But like you, I too let loose during the weekends. I wonder though, how would one go about following this fish oil/green tea extract regimen if they were to have an active social life (clubbing, drinking, eating, ****ing)??? How would one be able to fit in the regimen inbetween all of this without conflicts or possible side effects (specifically with drinking)??? Right now I only have college and nothing much else. If people without acne or knowledge of it were to read about how much do we go out of our way to control it here on these boards, they wouldn't believe it.

And again, is it preferable to store my pills in the fridge or outside of it??? Until I feel that this fish oil regimen is a solid investment, I'm not investing in anything else. Luckily I got a derm appointment on the 12th, and look forward to making the most of it, including asking them questions about fish oil and green tea extract. But then again, derms aren't always the "be all, end all" solution to acne or much anything else. :confused:

 

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(@alex-r)

Posted : 04/04/2007 3:39 am

so who has noticed good results with this?

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(@ayla)

Posted : 04/04/2007 8:39 am

^me :D I'm down to washing my face once per day most days. The zits I do get (with the exception of the 'monthly' induced one) are small, and pretty much disappear on their own. I'm NOT less oily though, I'm definitely more oily - but it's a different kind of oil. My crows feet around my eyes have diminished significantly, my KP is lessening, my hands aren't chapped anymore, my skin tone is much more even.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/04/2007 8:40 am

^me 😀 I'm down to washing my face once per day most days. The zits I do get (with the exception of the 'monthly' induced one) are small, and pretty much disappear on their own. I'm NOT less oily though, I'm definitely more oily - but it's a different kind of oil. My crows feet around my eyes have diminished significantly, my KP is lessening, my hands aren't chapped anymore, my skin tone is much more even.

From your sig, how much omega 3 is in 5 grams?

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(@ayla)

Posted : 04/04/2007 9:06 am

lol, I gotta update the sig - I'm actually taking 6 g since the last hormonal surge :dry: In 6g there is 3000 mg/3 g

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(@rocdamike)

Posted : 04/04/2007 9:13 am

lol, I gotta update the sig - I'm actually taking 6 g since the last hormonal surge :dry: In 6g there is 3000 mg/3 g

Last hormonal surge meaning you had a bad breakout?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/04/2007 9:22 am

lol, I gotta update the sig - I'm actually taking 6 g since the last hormonal surge :dry: In 6g there is 3000 mg/3 g

If fish could talk, they'd think we're weird for drinking their oil. 😆

🙂

 

so who has noticed good results with this?

All my painful pimples are gone, I don't get any inflames ones now, the only thing I do get, though, are really small bumps! My oil is down considerably, but it's still there, but much better than before. Enough where I can breathe and not worry so much about blotting every 2 to 3 hours. But it still hasn't completely gone you know? It's almoooost gone, but it won't completely go!

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(@ayla)

Posted : 04/04/2007 9:30 am

lol, I gotta update the sig - I'm actually taking 6 g since the last hormonal surge :dry: In 6g there is 3000 mg/3 g

Last hormonal surge meaning you had a bad breakout?

 

One cyst - completely gone now, PMS induced - what was that 2 weeks ago romeo? If I had left it alone, probably would have been gone sooner.

Ok - I have been hesitant to mention this but - ahem - my breasts have grown a full cup size :wacko: I have not gained any weight, just them. I can't think what else it might be related to, not pregnant, not going through puberty (lol).... :think:

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(@rocdamike)

Posted : 04/04/2007 9:45 am

A whole cup size? I hope fish oil doesn't cause me to develop man breasts lol. :D

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/04/2007 1:17 pm

lol, I gotta update the sig - I'm actually taking 6 g since the last hormonal surge :dry: In 6g there is 3000 mg/3 g

Last hormonal surge meaning you had a bad breakout?

 

One cyst - completely gone now, PMS induced - what was that 2 weeks ago romeo? If I had left it alone, probably would have been gone sooner.

Ok - I have been hesitant to mention this but - ahem - my breasts have grown a full cup size :wacko: I have not gained any weight, just them. I can't think what else it might be related to, not pregnant, not going through puberty (lol).... :think:

 

Yup, about two weeks back 🙂

I am glad my breasts didn't grow any bigger haha 😆 I just got skinnier 🙁 This stuff is making me lose weight faster than anything, well, that's okay right?

Maybe you were telekinetically impregnated by other aylagators? :angel:

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(@autonomousone1980)

Posted : 04/04/2007 2:19 pm

so who has noticed good results with this?

i have been doing this for 5 weeks at 15-20 pills a day and have had many periods of clearness although i will breakout here and there. but the breakouts are always way less severe then they were its has allowed just about all the scars to heal on my face and brought my skin tone back back probably because fish oil is proven to stimulate collagen synthesis which is actually one of the main genes in acne that are messed up, genes that affect collagen production and the same for arthritis as well as collegen is used in the making of your cartilage.

this is the only so called "supplement" that ive ever seen obvious results from and i have no intention on ever quitting as every week is better then the next and sometimes im totally clear and i rarely get depressed anymore.

I still use triaz at night and i ocasionally use tretinoin but now i barely have to use tretinoin and for last week ive just been spot treating clogged pores with it to stop comedones from forming.

Theres definitly something to this no doubt and this may be a long shot but i think this could correct acne in some people over the course of 3-6 months or maybe even a year of consistent use, dietary fats have strong effects on gene transcription thats why many diseases can be traced to having too many bad fats in your diet.

I could honestly go on forever about this but i encourage you to go throught the whole thread because there is a library of information.

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(@autonomousone1980)

Posted : 04/04/2007 2:23 pm

lol, I gotta update the sig - I'm actually taking 6 g since the last hormonal surge :dry: In 6g there is 3000 mg/3 g

Last hormonal surge meaning you had a bad breakout?

 

One cyst - completely gone now, PMS induced - what was that 2 weeks ago romeo? If I had left it alone, probably would have been gone sooner.

Ok - I have been hesitant to mention this but - ahem - my breasts have grown a full cup size :wacko: I have not gained any weight, just them. I can't think what else it might be related to, not pregnant, not going through puberty (lol).... :think:

 

this is just a stupid guess, but omega 3s are quite important for newborns brain development so perhaps the fat composition is changing in your breast so that there is more locally available omega 3s to be incorporated into breast milk in case you get pregnant.

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(@cb07)

Posted : 04/04/2007 2:38 pm

Is green tea extract necessary if your taking fish oil?

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Posted : 04/04/2007 5:28 pm

Is green tea extract necessary if your taking fish oil?

They do completely different things. It's up to you. I take 'em because it has really does wonders correcting my hormones and I always feel good and my stress level is way down. I used to be stressed out a lot so that used to contribute to my oilyness at times. makes sense?

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Posted : 04/04/2007 9:47 pm

it makes your oil much less viscuous so you can go for a long time (eg. 18 hours) with a very oily face wash off/dip and wake up the next day with no new bumps/inflammation in those oily areas

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(@autonomousone1980)

Posted : 04/04/2007 10:31 pm

heres an article on nutrigenomics, i thought some of you might be interested.

 

http://www.ift.org/pdfs/focus/fortification_0705hirsch.pdf

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(@desenitized)

Posted : 04/04/2007 10:35 pm

holly crap I hadent even seen this thread but also have had great results with fish oil and flax seed oil vitamin gel pills most of my blemishes and white heads are gone. I still have bumpy skin but I look pretty good right now.

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(@dirtyshank)

Posted : 04/05/2007 1:51 pm

hey, im about to buy the liquid form of fish oil. Should I take it with food? And is there a preferred time to take it during the day? Cuz i dont wanna bring a bottle of it to work so I'd like to take it in the morning before i leave for work and once more after dinner.

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Posted : 04/05/2007 2:19 pm

Is green tea extract necessary if your taking fish oil?

They do completely different things. It's up to you. I take 'em because it has really does wonders correcting my hormones and I always feel good and my stress level is way down. I used to be stressed out a lot so that used to contribute to my oilyness at times. makes sense?

 

actually they do very similar things such as downregulate the production of the cox 2 enzymes which is overly expressed in perhaps all inflammatory diseases including many cancers.

epa and egcg have many similar benefits such as downregulated cox 2 enzyme production but they work in different ways to achieve a similar result.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsum

 

hey, im about to buy the liquid form of fish oil. Should I take it with food? And is there a preferred time to take it during the day? Cuz i dont wanna bring a bottle of it to work so I'd like to take it in the morning before i leave for work and once more after dinner.

why buy the liquid when you can just buy capsules?

very portable, easier to take them down too because they dont taste like anything.

you are going to be taking alot so you better love the taste of that fish oil or you may never keep up the habit of taking them, but thats how i feel about it.

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Posted : 04/05/2007 3:10 pm

Is green tea extract necessary if your taking fish oil?

They do completely different things. It's up to you. I take 'em because it has really does wonders correcting my hormones and I always feel good and my stress level is way down. I used to be stressed out a lot so that used to contribute to my oilyness at times. makes sense?

 

actually they do very similar things such as downregulate the production of the cox 2 enzymes which is overly expressed in perhaps all inflammatory diseases including many cancers.

epa and egcg have many similar benefits such as downregulated cox 2 enzyme production but they work in different ways to achieve a similar result.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsum

 

Pretty cool, thanks for the link! I also love how g.t. helps with my mood too. Would you happen to know any other antioxidants that are perhaps more powerful and cheaper?

 

why buy the liquid when you can just buy capsules?

very portable, easier to take them down too because they dont taste like anything.

you are going to be taking alot so you better love the taste of that fish oil or you may never keep up the habit of taking them, but thats how i feel about it.

^ Very true, if you won't stand the taste, don't take it. But if you don't mind taking xx many capsules, then go for the capsule form. It's all up to you, good luck on what you decide. :dance:

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Posted : 04/05/2007 4:00 pm

I have been taking the fish oil, and doing basically nothing else out of the ordinary (I eat ridiculously healthy, exercise a few times a week, and have a gentle cleansing regimen), and I have seen improvement which I would classify as nothing short of astounding.

 

You can check my sig and look at the Retin A Micro log, which I stopped updating a couple weeks ago. The retin A was my last resort before going on a 3rd course of accutane. After 8 weeks, my skin (face, neck, upper back area) were looking very craptastic. The most crappy part about it was the 8-12 lesions clumped together on the right side of my forehead which were lasting for WEEKS. Not to mention the irritated-looking rashy areas it made on my neck, besides the breakouts. I was ready to quit the retin A and give in to the poison. SOMEHOW I stumbled upon this thread right before I quit RetinAM. I read through most of it, and went out and got myself some fish oil immediately.

 

It's been 12 or 13 days now, and I would say my acne has been reduced by a good 80%. One thing I noticed is that the lesions which were on my face before I started fish oil are still there, but they are not "active". They don't hurt, and they are shrinking and fading. As far as any fresh new blemishes, I've had less than 5 I would say, and like others in this thread, the new ones have been the kind that OTHER PEOPLE get... the kind that you put a lil BP on it, keep it clean, dont fk with it.. and it's gone in a couple days without ever really making a scene.

 

I think it would be a great idea to start a new thready, some sort of testimonial thread. It seems like this is helping a lot for anyone who is trying it. Maybe I am mistaken and the naysayers are keeping quiet for the most part, but I get the impression that this is a great help to the people trying it.

 

 

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Posted : 04/05/2007 4:23 pm

I have been taking the fish oil, and doing basically nothing else out of the ordinary (I eat ridiculously healthy, exercise a few times a week, and have a gentle cleansing regimen), and I have seen improvement which I would classify as nothing short of astounding.

You can check my sig and look at the Retin A Micro log, which I stopped updating a couple weeks ago. The retin A was my last resort before going on a 3rd course of accutane. After 8 weeks, my skin (face, neck, upper back area) were looking very craptastic. The most crappy part about it was the 8-12 lesions clumped together on the right side of my forehead which were lasting for WEEKS. Not to mention the irritated-looking rashy areas it made on my neck, besides the breakouts. I was ready to quit the retin A and give in to the poison. SOMEHOW I stumbled upon this thread right before I quit RetinAM. I read through most of it, and went out and got myself some fish oil immediately.

It's been 12 or 13 days now, and I would say my acne has been reduced by a good 80%. One thing I noticed is that the lesions which were on my face before I started fish oil are still there, but they are not "active". They don't hurt, and they are shrinking and fading. As far as any fresh new blemishes, I've had less than 5 I would say, and like others in this thread, the new ones have been the kind that OTHER PEOPLE get... the kind that you put a lil BP on it, keep it clean, dont fk with it.. and it's gone in a couple days without ever really making a scene.

I think it would be a great idea to start a new thready, some sort of testimonial thread. It seems like this is helping a lot for anyone who is trying it. Maybe I am mistaken and the naysayers are keeping quiet for the most part, but I get the impression that this is a great help to the people trying it.

It really really makes my day when I hear news like this, I am very happy for you! Knowing that everyone is finding relief from this is awesome. How much omega 3 are you taking?

And definitely, it gets to a point where you can simply put a dab of BP on and it will fade. Or my favorite, aspirin spots. One aspirin with a couple drops of water on a spot, leave it on a couple of nights 🙂 Ta da! gone.

I don't believe that there are many naysayers because once they start in full force and continue, they tend to realize the beneficiary effects as well? Not too sure, but I believe that may be it, because it truly is an essential element to our entire body function.

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(@dirtyshank)

Posted : 04/05/2007 9:00 pm

why buy the liquid when you can just buy capsules?

very portable, easier to take them down too because they dont taste like anything.

you are going to be taking alot so you better love the taste of that fish oil or you may never keep up the habit of taking them, but thats how i feel about it.

actually i just bought that Carlson's liquid omega-3 fish oil (which has lemon flavor to it) and its not that bad at all...could barely taste anything. so im gonna stick to it since liquids absorb into ur stomache better than gelcaps.

btw, can u take fish oil simultaneiously with multivitamins??

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(@doppleganger)

Posted : 04/06/2007 12:39 am

For those of you who are taking those high doses, have you experienced any of the side effects or whatever that comes with taking that much amount of fish oil??? Like the aforementioned strokes and raised cholesterol levels??? I'm still weary of taking such high does of the stuff. And if you guys are taking such high doses, isn't it worth it to just by capsules with the highest dosage of Omega-3 (they do exist) instead of taking multiple pills at at time??? If you want my bottle of "black market" Chinatown fish oil capsules with 900mg of Omega-3/each then I'd be happy to give it to any of you!!! Just pay the shipping and handling. :D

 

My problem as of late is that I haven't been taking the pills consistently, seeing as I'm on vacation and go to sleep well into the night, waking up in the afternoons. I only manage to take 4 pills throughout the time I'm awake, 2 with each big meal I eat.

 

Also, some other questions:

 

- Any of you guys ever eaten Sushi??? If so, is it harmful to acne and............just wondering..........has any nutritional value or Omega-3's??? I'd like to try it out sometime, I jus fear for my acne. :confused:

 

- Does taking fish oil capsules on an empty stomach cripple you as much as taking painkillers or certain vitamins on an empty stomach do??? I've taken some Tylenol on an empty stomach before..............and it made me it's bitch for about a good hour.

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