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Oh thanks... this thread is a real mess hehe... so i guess that you dont know how i know that i have an overdose 😛
lol 2 to 3 grams is not ODing by any means.
I am glad I saved the original thread, here's a part of it.
Don't mind the 4 grams part, in the beginning we used 3 - 4. It still makes the same point and will explain in detail.
Part 7: Is 4 Grams Safe, It Seems Like A Lot, Im Still Worried!I understand, that it seems like a lot, especially the daunting figure of taking up to 13 or 14 pills a day, especially when the bottle recommends only 3! I had that thought in the beginning. Keep reading this thread and youll see that in the beginning, I was worried. Remember, in liquid form, this equates to just a couple of teaspoons worth of good fat. Also, we get more bad fat just going out to eat anywhere in one meal, but we never think twice about that, do we? So dont worry, its a good fat, and still relatively just a little bit of it! Most of the capsule itself is a filler. Cut open one pill, youll realize how thick the shell actually is, and how little the liquid inside is.
If thats not enough assurance, the American Heart Association actually recommends up to 4 grams!
The American Heart Association recommends 2 - 4 grams of EPA plus DHA per day.
http://www.optimal-heart-health.com/omega-3.html
http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4632
4 grams is to lower triglyceride levels, as noted in the link. Why do you need to lower triglyceride levels? Please see "As Fish Oil Relates To Sebum Composition" in "Part 2: How Does Fish Oil Help with Acne?" portion of this thread. It relates to the composition of sebum directly. As you can see, it's safe, and healthy. If you are still concerned, please read below.
Also
Q. Is too much DHA dangerous?A: DHA is simply a fatty acid. The average American diet contains 50 - 80 g of fat a day (50,000 - 80,000 mg!). Most of that is in the form of saturated fats, which is much more detrimental to health. It is very unlikely anyone could possibly ingest an equivalent amount of DHA a day. Like any fat, DHA is a source of calories, specifically, 8 calories per gram. Taking a relatively "large" dose of 5 g of DHA would add only 40 calories to the diet. Moreover, the body can absorb only so much fat at one time, and the rest passes through undigested.
It is true, however, that people who subsist on very large amounts of fish, such as the Alaskan Eskimos who's daily fish oil intake is in fact around 50 - 80 grams, do have thinner blood than non-fish eating people.
http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/~lin/DHA/Chapter6.html
So this much is NOTHING in relativity. Just be sure to go up slowly, as mentioned before, and you will be totally fine.
Oh thanks... this thread is a real mess hehe... so i guess that you dont know how i know that i have an overdose 😛lol 2 to 3 grams is not ODing by any means.
I am glad I saved the original thread, here's a part of it.
Don't mind the 4 grams part, in the beginning we used 3 - 4. It still makes the same point and will explain in detail.
Part 7: Is 4 Grams Safe, It Seems Like A Lot, Im Still Worried!I understand, that it seems like a lot, especially the daunting figure of taking up to 13 or 14 pills a day, especially when the bottle recommends only 3! I had that thought in the beginning. Keep reading this thread and youll see that in the beginning, I was worried. Remember, in liquid form, this equates to just a couple of teaspoons worth of good fat. Also, we get more bad fat just going out to eat anywhere in one meal, but we never think twice about that, do we? So dont worry, its a good fat, and still relatively just a little bit of it! Most of the capsule itself is a filler. Cut open one pill, youll realize how thick the shell actually is, and how little the liquid inside is.
If thats not enough assurance, the American Heart Association actually recommends up to 4 grams!
The American Heart Association recommends 2 - 4 grams of EPA plus DHA per day.
http://www.optimal-heart-health.com/omega-3.html
http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4632
4 grams is to lower triglyceride levels, as noted in the link. Why do you need to lower triglyceride levels? Please see "As Fish Oil Relates To Sebum Composition" in "Part 2: How Does Fish Oil Help with Acne?" portion of this thread. It relates to the composition of sebum directly. As you can see, it's safe, and healthy. If you are still concerned, please read below.
Also
Q. Is too much DHA dangerous?A: DHA is simply a fatty acid. The average American diet contains 50 - 80 g of fat a day (50,000 - 80,000 mg!). Most of that is in the form of saturated fats, which is much more detrimental to health. It is very unlikely anyone could possibly ingest an equivalent amount of DHA a day. Like any fat, DHA is a source of calories, specifically, 8 calories per gram. Taking a relatively "large" dose of 5 g of DHA would add only 40 calories to the diet. Moreover, the body can absorb only so much fat at one time, and the rest passes through undigested.
It is true, however, that people who subsist on very large amounts of fish, such as the Alaskan Eskimos who's daily fish oil intake is in fact around 50 - 80 grams, do have thinner blood than non-fish eating people.
http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/~lin/DHA/Chapter6.html
So this much is NOTHING in relativity. Just be sure to go up slowly, as mentioned before, and you will be totally fine.
love youuuu :clap: thanks
Hi all,
I started taking 1000 mg of fish oil (whole foods brand, 180 mg EPA 120 DHA per capsule) a little less than 2 weeks ago...I got a breakout on my left cheek where I've been clear for about 3 months (like 5 or 6 pimples, not cysts but not small)...I can't be positive that this is related to the fish oil, but on the other hand I would definitely not say that it's helping me at this point. Have other people who have been successful with fish oil had an IB? How long does it typically take to start helping? Is it possible that it could be making things worse ?
I dont particularly notice my skin being more oily, my hair seems pretty oily though. My stubborn eczema on the right side of my nose doesnt seem to be particularly better...
ooh and I forgot to add that I keep getting fishy burps even though I take the capsules with a meal..does that mean I'm not properly digesting them? Should I try taking a digestive enzyme with the fish oil? Thanks!
There is one thing you can do, stop taking the fish oil for about a week or so and see if it subsides, then take it again and see if it comes back. There could be a connection. Are you allergic to fish? If so, that's likely, something doesn't seem right. Also take a look at the regimen in my sig, maybe that will help you
ooh and I forgot to add that I keep getting fishy burps even though I take the capsules with a meal..does that mean I'm not properly digesting them? Should I try taking a digestive enzyme with the fish oil? Thanks!There is one thing you can do, stop taking the fish oil for about a week or so and see if it subsides, then take it again and see if it comes back. There could be a connection. Are you allergic to fish? If so, that's likely, something doesn't seem right. Also take a look at the regimen in my sig, maybe that will help you
Thanks NdRomeo...It seems like something isn't right to me too...I know that introducing new supplements can cause an IB but I can't really think of a good reason that this should happen with fish oil...the fact that i got such a breakout on my left cheek which has been so good for months definitely concerns me..I never thought about a fish allergy. I never really ate fish until this past year, I don't think I notice any special symptoms after eating fish but maybe I should try cutting it out 🙁 I'll give that a try and see what happens. What's your opinion about supplementing with flax seed oil? It seems like everyone has a different opinion, but I feel that I could use some good fatty acids in my diet since I tend to get dry skin..thanks for your help, i'll check out your regimen too.
i guess everyone is different...i'm fairly certain fish oil was causing problems for me and I was only taking 1 gram per day. I didn't take my dose last night and this morning my skin is significantly improved...As crazy as it sounds, I think I'll try to cut all fish out of my diet for a few weeks and see what happens. I'm glad that fish oil works so well for you guys though! good luck!
i guess everyone is different...i'm fairly certain fish oil was causing problems for me and I was only taking 1 gram per day. I didn't take my dose last night and this morning my skin is significantly improved...As crazy as it sounds, I think I'll try to cut all fish out of my diet for a few weeks and see what happens. I'm glad that fish oil works so well for you guys though! good luck!
Well, about your other question, try flax seed oil and see how it works 🙂 Or best yet just get regular flax seeds, grind them up, and take them. It will actually be much more beneficial than regular flax seed oil due to the conversion rate and what not.
I take 5 grams of fish oil in the morning and 5 grams at night, along with 75mg morning and night of zinc.I notice incredibly fast results, like the morning after I see a massive reduction. This stuff really works and KEEPS you clear.
You need to be careful about the zinc, I love zinc, it does wonders, and completely agree with what you are saying =), but go down to 50mg a day, soon or it will start to have reprocussions. In some cases, more can actually be damaging, and zinc is one of them =) Remember, the goal is to be sure you are getting enough zinc in your body to fight acne, without interfering in the other processes. Too much zinc "can decrease your copper, iron and magnesium levels, reduce your body's immune function, and reduce your HDL (good cholesterol) level" (nutritional supplement health guide).
You will kill acne with 50 mg 🙂 Especially when the RDA is only 15. You don't wan to offset the balance of the other minerals in your body, but to take it for the purpose you are taking it for only =)
romeo your back...help me out man im still here, what are u doing thats working???http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Finally-a...PM-t194561.html
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Ok so for about 9 months I've been taking Primose Oil supplements and Flax seed oil supplements which really helped with my acne. But I still get sebum filled pimples, it seems like at least 1-4x a week, and I'm just getting really tired of it. Because one goes away but theres always 3 or four more.. and I want to be clear!! So I'm going to try this new regimine that was suggested and I will keep you all updated. Eventually I'm going to start switching up my cleanser to something with out Salicilyic Acid (I read that it doesn't help in a cleanser anyway). And to things less irritating and more natural/gentle. Hope this works!!
romeo your back...help me out man im still here, what are u doing thats working???http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Finally-a...PM-t194561.html
😀
Ok so for about 9 months I've been taking Primose Oil supplements and Flax seed oil supplements which really helped with my acne. But I still get sebum filled pimples, it seems like at least 1-4x a week, and I'm just getting really tired of it. Because one goes away but theres always 3 or four more.. and I want to be clear!! So I'm going to try this new regimine that was suggested and I will keep you all updated. Eventually I'm going to start switching up my cleanser to something with out Salicilyic Acid (I read that it doesn't help in a cleanser anyway). And to things less irritating and more natural/gentle. Hope this works!!
I know for damn sure this will help you tons :D. Drop the primrose and flax and pick up some high octane fish/cod/olive oils! You'll kick acne in the ass at least for a good amount, let's hope enough to knock it out.
Romeo, reading through this post is bringing a tear to my eye because of how helpful and motivating you are. It really makes a difference to people, so I want to first off say THANK YOU more than anything else. This also goes for the number of others who have been providing great information and moral support!
I'm very much looking forward to starting this regimen, but I'm not entirely sure where to begin. Unfortunately I can't read through all 157 pages of this thread without my eyeballs falling out, but I used the information on nutritiondata.com to figure out that my daily ratio is roughly 16:1 (o6/o3). And now basically I just need some assistance in figuring out how many pills/mgs of what I should be taking, and where I can purchase them (presumably Vitamin Shoppe, I hope?).
I'll also be happy to provide any additional information if it's necessary to help figure out which dosage would be best for me. Thanks again!
Romeo, reading through this post is bringing a tear to my eye because of how helpful and motivating you are. It really makes a difference to people, so I want to first off say THANK YOU more than anything else. This also goes for the number of others who have been providing great information and moral support!I'm very much looking forward to starting this regimen, but I'm not entirely sure where to begin. Unfortunately I can't read through all 157 pages of this thread without my eyeballs falling out, but I used the information on nutritiondata.com to figure out that my daily ratio is roughly 16:1 (o6/o3). And now basically I just need some assistance in figuring out how many pills/mgs of what I should be taking, and where I can purchase them (presumably Vitamin Shoppe, I hope?).
I'll also be happy to provide any additional information if it's necessary to help figure out which dosage would be best for me. Thanks again!
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Hey fortune, thank you for the kind words. It's my pleasure 🙂 Without each other's experiences to guide us, we really have no one but myths and medicine 🙁
I have to say, when this thread first started we were all in the baby steps of figuring out what fish oil was. We knew it was somewhat important but not what it really did for certain. We all somewhat jumped in after I made a thread talking about it and learned from the ground up. Since then we found out so much. We learned that it wasn't just about the amount of omega 3 in relation to omega 6 even, but we found an entire system of important fats and we linked it back to nutrition. How much is exactly needed by our bodies. Along with the other vitamins and minerals necessary. It's a really long thread, I completely agree, most of it being just a progression and information posting. The original data was deleted from the first post because we found just so much more!
Click on the link in the first line of my signature and it will lead you to my regimen, that's a more clear, concise, and important document detailing what you should try taking. In the FAQ/Research section it backs it all up with the science of nutrition and how it all works together. Also with links of purchasing.
You can post there if you have any questions =) I always answer every one.
I hope that helps
just wondering - what is a recommended amount for EPA + DHA? im gonna start on the ''Ndnromeo'' regimen ;P posted in the other thread. gonna get some fish oil capsules and stuff soon, just want to know what dosages you guys are taking/recommend. i'm a fairly small guy about 127 lbs - last year when i took omega3's at about 4-5 g's i felt a little tired/woozy, perhaps cause of the blood thinning. wondering if i'll see the effects on acne if i take a lower dosage, in the range of 1-3 g's.
hello to everybody.
I want to start taking omega 3,but....
My acnee is a moderate one, I have it on my chin and around my mouth, it is a cystyc acne, under my skin, i suppose it is the kind of acnee called non-inflamatoy acnee.i tried several doctors and they gave several treatments during the past 4 years(retin a, diacneal, after using these i starting to break out, because the acne was uncovered and i suppose it got infected, i used brevoxyl, it helped with the break outs, and again now i have that noninflamatory acne but once a wek i still got a pimple, i was given roaccutane, took for 2 months then stopped it because i saw no results and i was feeling badly and i have now many broken vessels on my legs and i think one or two not that vissible yet on my face; now i'm using a soap with sulphur from harragate 2-3 times a day and in the evening the moisturizing sulphur cream also from harrogate. ) i take vit c, vit b, vit e, msm, zn, and i want to start taking fish oil. now my questions are:
1. can it help me taking into consideration my type of acne?
2. i have spiderveins(broken vessels) on my legs (and i hate them), i am afraid that the omega 3 in large quantities can harm them.what do you think?
Are the GNC branded fish/salmon oil good?
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
Are the GNC branded fish/salmon oil good?http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
I would stick to liquids in case the filler materials don't gel with your body well. Some people claim that they are the source to their breakouts and that liquids are fine. But if you were to chose one the second one would be the best option.
Are the GNC branded fish/salmon oil good?http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
I would stick to liquids in case the filler materials don't gel with your body well. Some people claim that they are the source to their breakouts and that liquids are fine. But if you were to chose one the second one would be the best option.
Thanks. Would you mind explaining why the second is the best? The first one while more prciey has 3 time more Omega-3 in each capsule, while the last one is $17 at 216 capsules so it seems more value for money.
Oh btw since I dont live in the US, I might not be able to get those listed above. These two are available here... but I dont think they are good, since they dont contain vitamin E and the fish oil is even deodorized (to eliminate the fish smell), not sure if that's a good thing. However for the salmon oil,
This product is regularly tested using Association of Official Analytical Chemists (AOAC) international protocol for potency and purity by an independent, FDAregistered laboratory and found to be free of detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead and PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls).
http://www.gnc.com.sg/product/0100153.aspx...55-54A200CAC7B0
http://www.gnc.com.sg/product/0100384.aspx...55-54A200CAC7B0
Are the GNC branded fish/salmon oil good?http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
I would stick to liquids in case the filler materials don't gel with your body well. Some people claim that they are the source to their breakouts and that liquids are fine. But if you were to chose one the second one would be the best option.
Thanks. Would you mind explaining why the second is the best? The first one while more prciey has 3 time more Omega-3 in each capsule, while the last one is $17 at 216 capsules so it seems more value for money.
Oh btw since I dont live in the US, I might not be able to get those listed above. These two are available here... but I dont think they are good, since they dont contain vitamin E and the fish oil is even deodorized (to eliminate the fish smell), not sure if that's a good thing. However for the salmon oil,
This product is regularly tested using Association of Official Analytical Chemists (AOAC) international protocol for potency and purity by an independent, FDAregistered laboratory and found to be free of detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead and PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls).http://www.gnc.com.sg/product/0100153.aspx...55-54A200CAC7B0
http://www.gnc.com.sg/product/0100384.aspx...55-54A200CAC7B0
Out of the first three links, the second is the best because it's the cheapest. If you calculate it, you get the least amount per dollar in the first link, the most amount in the second link.
But since you can't get any of them you'll probably only be able to get the one you just posted anyway haha