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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/02/2007 11:00 pm

haha check this out

 

:lol:

 

 

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=548543

 

At this point I am more confused than I was before asking the

question, because you have given contradictory references. Two

references state that omega-3 reduces LDL, while the other says it

raises LDL. Please provide clarification.

 

Hello again saregamapa~

 

I‚„m sorry I confused you! Unfortunately, clinical evidence is often

contradictory. However, most studies show that omega-3:

 

‚Lowers LDL (‚Å“bad‚ cholesterol)

‚Increases HDL (‚Å“good‚ cholesterol)

‚Has little or no effect on overall cholesterol

 

 

However, some studies also show LDL going up a little with omega-3

intake. As American Family Physicians says, ‚Å“high dosages of fish oil

may increase LDL cholesterol levels, but the clinical relevance of

this finding remains unclear.‚ (‚Å“Omega 3 Fatty Acids,‚

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040701/133.html )

 

I hope this makes the medical facts more clear.

 

Kind regards,

Kriswrite

 

:wacko: Researching things that are not definite are so confusing!!!

 

The best thing to do is just see how it affects each of us, since it seems everyone gets affected differently.

 

All I know is, I'm glad we're all on the same team and it's working and we're all spreading the word about it.

 

:dance:

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(@bber)

Posted : 03/02/2007 11:41 pm

Thank you for that ayla 🙂

bber, definitely keep us updated if you get another one done and I will also do the same. I am just so happy this is working now that I know my ratio :dance: I pray to God it doesn't go anywhere close to the border, or over, (the LDL), but theoretically, even if it's at the border, it's still under the normal level, so i should be okay. My family has a really bad history of heart attacks, diabetes etc. It should be noted, however, the ratio was great (1.61), their hdl stayed the same over the month they were on fish oil, but their LDL (the bad chol) was raised 20 points in a month. So the LDL was their main concern. So for their purposes, they had no purpose for it since they were one of the minorities in people who have their LDL raised, as some sites show a possibility of. Like this one:

 

Omega-3 fatty acids lower plasma triglyceride levels, particularly in persons with hypertriglyceridemia,14 by inhibiting the synthesis of very-low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol and triglycerides in the liver. A review15 of human studies concluded that approximately 4 g per day of omega-3 fatty acids reduced serum triglyceride concentrations by 25 to 30 percent, increased serum low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels by 5 to 10 percent, and increased high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol levels by 1 to 3 percent. Total cholesterol was not significantly affected.15

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040701/133.html

How about your history/genetics? It seems you have great genes, maybe your family too?

I tried bbing once, I failed miserably. lol, I couldn't afford money for all the food I needed.

Are you a mesomorph or an ecto?

 

Alright, I'll give you some history. Maybe after im done I won't come across as a lunatic who is trying to commit suicide by drowning in fish oil =P.

First I'll talk about my acne issues. I first started getting acne when I was about 14, it was severe cystic acne and I left it untreated for roughly 1.5 years. I thought it was something teenagers got and I would outgrow it in a year or so, heh, not my brightest moment I'll tell you that right now. I went to a few derms, most of which said I should go on accutane to which I refused because I was at the time a competitive athlete. Basically from there on I had many courses of antibiotics and topicals and my complexion was that of someone with moderate acne for most of the time during treatment, except for a few months when some orals worked wonders and I had some clear time. About a month ago my derm said he didn't know what to do, basically nothing was really having any effect on my acne and he said if I wanted accutane. Again, I refused, mainly because I've lived with this for 6 years and it is now not at the point where I get huge painful cysts anymore(just a lot of smaller cysts and other lesions). So basically he said he'll continue to see me and prescribe whatever he thought would help.

I don't really know how to answer the question about body types. Personally I don't find any validity on the body types theory. For example at one point in my life I was used as an example of what an ectomorph was. I was 6'0" and about 120lbs, basically I must have looked like I was dying. This is around the time when I used to compete in cross country, swimming, wrestling among others. At around the age of 18 I decided I wanted some mass on my frame, so I started training hard and eating a lot. Approximately 6 months later I was already in the 160s. After that weight gained slowed a bit and I closed that year at around 200lbs. The next year didn't start so good, I had personal problems that kept me from lifting and eating and that resulted in a great loss of mass. I was down to about 160 again. I tend to lose muscle mass very fast for some odd reason. A few months later I'm at 200lbs as of yesterday morning, with about 10%(give or take 3%) body fat(calipers). Genetically Im nothing out of the ordinary and I sure as hell won't be the next Mr. Olympia. Family-wise there isn't any hereditary disease that im aware of in my family, everyone dies of old age, unless they get hit by a car or something.

Where the fish oil comes in---

I saw my derm today and he said he had no idea how but my condition had improved dramatically. He was amazed. And this guy has been practicing medicine for over 2 decades. Im mostly clear now, just with literally more red marks than I can count. Which is why I recommend people to give this a good try so much, because i've seen first hand that it can work wonders at the right dosage.

Thats about it.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/03/2007 12:16 am

Thank you for that ayla 🙂

bber, definitely keep us updated if you get another one done and I will also do the same. I am just so happy this is working now that I know my ratio :dance: I pray to God it doesn't go anywhere close to the border, or over, (the LDL), but theoretically, even if it's at the border, it's still under the normal level, so i should be okay. My family has a really bad history of heart attacks, diabetes etc. It should be noted, however, the ratio was great (1.61), their hdl stayed the same over the month they were on fish oil, but their LDL (the bad chol) was raised 20 points in a month. So the LDL was their main concern. So for their purposes, they had no purpose for it since they were one of the minorities in people who have their LDL raised, as some sites show a possibility of. Like this one:

 

Omega-3 fatty acids lower plasma triglyceride levels, particularly in persons with hypertriglyceridemia,14 by inhibiting the synthesis of very-low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol and triglycerides in the liver. A review15 of human studies concluded that approximately 4 g per day of omega-3 fatty acids reduced serum triglyceride concentrations by 25 to 30 percent, increased serum low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels by 5 to 10 percent, and increased high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol levels by 1 to 3 percent. Total cholesterol was not significantly affected.15

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040701/133.html

How about your history/genetics? It seems you have great genes, maybe your family too?

I tried bbing once, I failed miserably. lol, I couldn't afford money for all the food I needed.

Are you a mesomorph or an ecto?

 

Alright, I'll give you some history. Maybe after im done I won't come across as a lunatic who is trying to commit suicide by drowning in fish oil =P.

First I'll talk about my acne issues. I first started getting acne when I was about 14, it was severe cystic acne and I left it untreated for roughly 1.5 years. I thought it was something teenagers got and I would outgrow it in a year or so, heh, not my brightest moment I'll tell you that right now. I went to a few derms, most of which said I should go on accutane to which I refused because I was at the time a competitive athlete. Basically from there on I had many courses of antibiotics and topicals and my complexion was that of someone with moderate acne for most of the time during treatment, except for a few months when some orals worked wonders and I had some clear time. About a month ago my derm said he didn't know what to do, basically nothing was really having any effect on my acne and he said if I wanted accutane. Again, I refused, mainly because I've lived with this for 6 years and it is now not at the point where I get huge painful cysts anymore(just a lot of smaller cysts and other lesions). So basically he said he'll continue to see me and prescribe whatever he thought would help.

I don't really know how to answer the question about body types. Personally I don't find any validity on the body types theory. For example at one point in my life I was used as an example of what an ectomorph was. I was 6'0" and about 120lbs, basically I must have looked like I was dying. This is around the time when I used to compete in cross country, swimming, wrestling among others. At around the age of 18 I decided I wanted some mass on my frame, so I started training hard and eating a lot. Approximately 6 months later I was already in the 160s. After that weight gained slowed a bit and I closed that year at around 200lbs. The next year didn't start so good, I had personal problems that kept me from lifting and eating and that resulted in a great loss of mass. I was down to about 160 again. I tend to lose muscle mass very fast for some odd reason. A few months later I'm at 200lbs as of yesterday morning, with about 10%(give or take 3%) body fat(calipers). Genetically Im nothing out of the ordinary and I sure as hell won't be the next Mr. Olympia. Family-wise there isn't any hereditary disease that im aware of in my family, everyone dies of old age, unless they get hit by a car or something.

Where the fish oil comes in---

I saw my derm today and he said he had no idea how but my condition had improved dramatically. He was amazed. And this guy has been practicing medicine for over 2 decades. Im mostly clear now, just with literally more red marks than I can count. Which is why I recommend people to give this a good try so much, because i've seen first hand that it can work wonders at the right dosage.

Thats about it.

 

Omg bro that is an amazing history, I read every single word of it! How old are you right now? I remember how you said you were 18 and then mentioned "a few months later as of today" so I am assuming you are currently 18 as well?

At what age did your cystic acne start going away with fish oil, and also, how long ago have you started taking it? I can't recall, I know you did mention before.

Is it possible for you to do one thing for me, because I think you may already have. But can you find out what your ratio of 03 and 06 is right now? Because if it's close to 1:1, then I am really excited because that means I must be on the same path, especially if you've been on fish oil for a very long time as well!

I am so happy for you, are you totally clear now? Tell me about your skin condition, I know you mentioned it's almost dry now in terms of excess oil, how fast did that happen for you? What else did you notice?

:surprised:

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(@bber)

Posted : 03/03/2007 12:35 am

Thank you for that ayla 🙂

bber, definitely keep us updated if you get another one done and I will also do the same. I am just so happy this is working now that I know my ratio :dance: I pray to God it doesn't go anywhere close to the border, or over, (the LDL), but theoretically, even if it's at the border, it's still under the normal level, so i should be okay. My family has a really bad history of heart attacks, diabetes etc. It should be noted, however, the ratio was great (1.61), their hdl stayed the same over the month they were on fish oil, but their LDL (the bad chol) was raised 20 points in a month. So the LDL was their main concern. So for their purposes, they had no purpose for it since they were one of the minorities in people who have their LDL raised, as some sites show a possibility of. Like this one:

 

Omega-3 fatty acids lower plasma triglyceride levels, particularly in persons with hypertriglyceridemia,14 by inhibiting the synthesis of very-low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol and triglycerides in the liver. A review15 of human studies concluded that approximately 4 g per day of omega-3 fatty acids reduced serum triglyceride concentrations by 25 to 30 percent, increased serum low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels by 5 to 10 percent, and increased high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol levels by 1 to 3 percent. Total cholesterol was not significantly affected.15

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040701/133.html

How about your history/genetics? It seems you have great genes, maybe your family too?

I tried bbing once, I failed miserably. lol, I couldn't afford money for all the food I needed.

Are you a mesomorph or an ecto?

 

Alright, I'll give you some history. Maybe after im done I won't come across as a lunatic who is trying to commit suicide by drowning in fish oil =P.

First I'll talk about my acne issues. I first started getting acne when I was about 14, it was severe cystic acne and I left it untreated for roughly 1.5 years. I thought it was something teenagers got and I would outgrow it in a year or so, heh, not my brightest moment I'll tell you that right now. I went to a few derms, most of which said I should go on accutane to which I refused because I was at the time a competitive athlete. Basically from there on I had many courses of antibiotics and topicals and my complexion was that of someone with moderate acne for most of the time during treatment, except for a few months when some orals worked wonders and I had some clear time. About a month ago my derm said he didn't know what to do, basically nothing was really having any effect on my acne and he said if I wanted accutane. Again, I refused, mainly because I've lived with this for 6 years and it is now not at the point where I get huge painful cysts anymore(just a lot of smaller cysts and other lesions). So basically he said he'll continue to see me and prescribe whatever he thought would help.

I don't really know how to answer the question about body types. Personally I don't find any validity on the body types theory. For example at one point in my life I was used as an example of what an ectomorph was. I was 6'0" and about 120lbs, basically I must have looked like I was dying. This is around the time when I used to compete in cross country, swimming, wrestling among others. At around the age of 18 I decided I wanted some mass on my frame, so I started training hard and eating a lot. Approximately 6 months later I was already in the 160s. After that weight gained slowed a bit and I closed that year at around 200lbs. The next year didn't start so good, I had personal problems that kept me from lifting and eating and that resulted in a great loss of mass. I was down to about 160 again. I tend to lose muscle mass very fast for some odd reason. A few months later I'm at 200lbs as of yesterday morning, with about 10%(give or take 3%) body fat(calipers). Genetically Im nothing out of the ordinary and I sure as hell won't be the next Mr. Olympia. Family-wise there isn't any hereditary disease that im aware of in my family, everyone dies of old age, unless they get hit by a car or something.

Where the fish oil comes in---

I saw my derm today and he said he had no idea how but my condition had improved dramatically. He was amazed. And this guy has been practicing medicine for over 2 decades. Im mostly clear now, just with literally more red marks than I can count. Which is why I recommend people to give this a good try so much, because i've seen first hand that it can work wonders at the right dosage.

Thats about it.

 

Omg bro that is an amazing history, I read every single word of it! How old are you right now? I remember how you said you were 18 and then mentioned "a few months later as of today" so I am assuming you are currently 18 as well?

At what age did your cystic acne start going away with fish oil, and also, how long ago have you started taking it? I can't recall, I know you did mention before.

Is it possible for you to do one thing for me, because I think you may already have. But can you find out what your ratio of 03 and 06 is right now? Because if it's close to 1:1, then I am really excited because that means I must be on the same path, especially if you've been on fish oil for a very long time as well!

I am so happy for you, are you totally clear now? Tell me about your skin condition, I know you mentioned it's almost dry now in terms of excess oil, how fast did that happen for you? What else did you notice?

:surprised:

 

I was 18 when I started bodybuilding. I just turned 20. My cystic acne started going away noticeably approximately 2 weeks after I started taking high doses of the fish oil(mid february). My excess oil production stopped almost instantly. I calculated my o6:o3 ratio somewhere up there, it came up to about 7:1 without supplementation and about 1:1 once the fish oil was calculated for.

My skin condition has improved significantly. Basically, im full of red marks and have 1 active very small cyst in the right side of my face, and one that is almost disappeared on my left side, my back has about 3 small cysts total, which are leaving soon apparently. My chest and neck are completely cleared. It looks like its going to be smooth sailing from here on out.

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Posted : 03/03/2007 12:47 am

I was 18 when I started bodybuilding. I just turned 20. My cystic acne started going away noticeably approximately 2 weeks after I started taking high doses of the fish oil(mid february). My excess oil production stopped almost instantly. I calculated my o6:o3 ratio somewhere up there, it came up to about 7:1 without supplementation and about 1:1 once the fish oil was calculated for.

My skin condition has improved significantly. Basically, im full of red marks and have 1 active very small cyst in the right side of my face, and one that is almost disappeared on my left side, my back has about 3 small cysts total, which are leaving soon apparently. My chest and neck are completely cleared. It looks like its going to be smooth sailing from here on out.

That is awesome! I can't wait till you get clear :dance: I think we started about the same time then, mid february. I'm glad your ratio is balanced, now it's only a matter of time for us. Hopefully within 2 months we'll be here along with everyone else rejoicing over this acne mess.

My skin seems to be a bit thicker too, almost resilient to anything! Which is perfect, it feels like how skin should feel!

I just hope it gets better and better!

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(@theknife)

Posted : 03/03/2007 4:02 am

eek. This is a great thread. But I just realised if I'm eating 4+ eggs a day I am stuffed when it comes to getting a 1:1 ratio right. Planning on getting some fish oil tablets soon

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(@bigbeauty)

Posted : 03/03/2007 11:47 am

Where the fish oil comes in---

I saw my derm today and he said he had no idea how but my condition had improved dramatically. He was amazed. And this guy has been practicing medicine for over 2 decades. Im mostly clear now, just with literally more red marks than I can count. Which is why I recommend people to give this a good try so much, because i've seen first hand that it can work wonders at the right dosage.

Thats about it.

So I take it you didn't tell your derm you're taking fish oil? If true, I'm curious why not?

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(@bigbeauty)

Posted : 03/03/2007 11:49 am

eek. This is a great thread. But I just realised if I'm eating 4+ eggs a day I am stuffed when it comes to getting a 1:1 ratio right. Planning on getting some fish oil tablets soon

Try buying omega-3 enriched eggs, this will help a little although I don't think you'll get the EPA and DHA from them.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/03/2007 11:55 am

eek. This is a great thread. But I just realised if I'm eating 4+ eggs a day I am stuffed when it comes to getting a 1:1 ratio right. Planning on getting some fish oil tablets soon

Try buying omega-3 enriched eggs, this will help a little although I don't think you'll get the EPA and DHA from them.

 

What a great idea, I never even knew they existed

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(@ayla)

Posted : 03/03/2007 12:11 pm

eek. This is a great thread. But I just realised if I'm eating 4+ eggs a day I am stuffed when it comes to getting a 1:1 ratio right. Planning on getting some fish oil tablets soon

Try buying omega-3 enriched eggs, this will help a little although I don't think you'll get the EPA and DHA from them.

 

😮 What brand are these?? I want some!

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(@bber)

Posted : 03/03/2007 12:22 pm

Where the fish oil comes in---

I saw my derm today and he said he had no idea how but my condition had improved dramatically. He was amazed. And this guy has been practicing medicine for over 2 decades. Im mostly clear now, just with literally more red marks than I can count. Which is why I recommend people to give this a good try so much, because i've seen first hand that it can work wonders at the right dosage.

Thats about it.

So I take it you didn't tell your derm you're taking fish oil? If true, I'm curious why not?

 

I didn't, thats correct. Mainly because there are a hundread things that go into my nutrition for what I do that he has little to no idea about. And it should stay that way, hes a dermatologist, not a strength and conditioning coach.

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(@ariventa)

Posted : 03/03/2007 12:32 pm

eek. This is a great thread. But I just realised if I'm eating 4+ eggs a day I am stuffed when it comes to getting a 1:1 ratio right. Planning on getting some fish oil tablets soon

Try buying omega-3 enriched eggs, this will help a little although I don't think you'll get the EPA and DHA from them.

 

😮 What brand are these?? I want some!

 

There are different brands, but I buy Land O' Lakes brand. 350 mgs of omega 3 for egg which is pretty damn good. My guess is that the breakdown is 200 mg EPA, 150 mgs DHA, just because most other o3 eggs list dha at 150. I usually eat 3-4 eggs for breakfast so I get 1,000 to 1,400 mgs of epa/dha from eggs alone. Just for comparison, a regulaer commercial egg has about 15-16 mgs of o3 compared to 350mgs of these eggs.

Here'a a link to what they look like http://www.moarkllc.com/pagefiles/3.html

I also saw a new product by egg innovations that is also omega-3 enhanced.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/03/2007 12:35 pm

eek. This is a great thread. But I just realised if I'm eating 4+ eggs a day I am stuffed when it comes to getting a 1:1 ratio right. Planning on getting some fish oil tablets soon

Try buying omega-3 enriched eggs, this will help a little although I don't think you'll get the EPA and DHA from them.

 

😮 What brand are these?? I want some!

 

There are different brands, but I buy Land O' Lakes brand. 350 mgs of omega 3 for egg which is pretty damn good. My guess is that the breakdown is 200 mg EPA, 150 mgs DHA, just because most other o3 eggs list dha at 150. I usually eat 3-4 eggs for breakfast so I get 1,000 to 1,400 mgs of epa/dha from eggs alone. Just for comparison, a regulaer commercial egg has about 15-16 mgs of o3 compared to 350mgs of these eggs.

Here'a a link to what they look like http://www.moarkllc.com/pagefiles/3.html

I also saw a new product by egg innovations that is also omega-3 enhanced.

 

Do you think the omega 3 will be ineffective after cooking it? It shouldn't be correct?

And if Only eat egg whites, is the omega 3 in the yolk?

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(@ayla)

Posted : 03/03/2007 12:53 pm

Damn! I can't buy LOL down here. Stupid Alabama *kicks dirt*

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(@bigbeauty)

Posted : 03/03/2007 1:36 pm

Damn! I can't buy LOL down here. Stupid Alabama *kicks dirt*

I'm in FL and get 4 grain at Publix:

http://www.4grain.com/omega.html

However, not all Publix stores seem to carry them for me, so its probably hit or miss depending upon what grocers you have. I bet they'd have them at a natural foods store though. These are 300 mg o-3 per egg but I have no idea what the breakdown is on the kind of o-3. I see no reason why the o-3 wouldn't be effective when cooked. I believe these have o-3 because of the diet of the hens.

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(@ariventa)

Posted : 03/03/2007 4:34 pm

eek. This is a great thread. But I just realised if I'm eating 4+ eggs a day I am stuffed when it comes to getting a 1:1 ratio right. Planning on getting some fish oil tablets soon

Try buying omega-3 enriched eggs, this will help a little although I don't think you'll get the EPA and DHA from them.

 

😮 What brand are these?? I want some!

 

There are different brands, but I buy Land O' Lakes brand. 350 mgs of omega 3 for egg which is pretty damn good. My guess is that the breakdown is 200 mg EPA, 150 mgs DHA, just because most other o3 eggs list dha at 150. I usually eat 3-4 eggs for breakfast so I get 1,000 to 1,400 mgs of epa/dha from eggs alone. Just for comparison, a regulaer commercial egg has about 15-16 mgs of o3 compared to 350mgs of these eggs.

Here'a a link to what they look like http://www.moarkllc.com/pagefiles/3.html

I also saw a new product by egg innovations that is also omega-3 enhanced.

 

Do you think the omega 3 will be ineffective after cooking it? It shouldn't be correct?

And if Only eat egg whites, is the omega 3 in the yolk?

 

Tough to say. EFA's are really fragile, but when in the context of a whole food it's much more protected. That's why these EFA oils have to be treated so carefully because they aren't surrounded by anything to protect them .

These eggs also have 20% vitamin E which helps protect EFA's in the body, so that's good. My suggestion would be to slowly cook the eggs on a low flame and leave them somewhat runny if possible. By cooking on a low flame and cooking it more slowly, you can preserve more of the good stuff.

I would say 100% of the EFA's are in the yolk.The yolk contains pretty much all the vitamin and nutrients, while the white is pretty much just protein.

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(@dancedd)

Posted : 03/05/2007 7:12 am

i used to have really oily skin until i started taking omega 3's as well. i started out with flax and have switched to fish oil since

should I replace flax oil with fish oil? Everyone seems to be praising fish oil. I am following Bob's regime.

 

I follow his regimen too, except I researched that borage and evening primrose are high in omega 6, so I just take omega 3 (fish oil) for my EFAs

 

You know I just researched it just to find it out for myself. And also found that borage and primrose has alot of omega 6. maybe thats why I haven't gotten more clear and went more worse. I been taking them last 3 weeks. Plus I looked up my food intake and didn't realize that so many foods I ate have omega 6. No more nuts for me!! So I am going to stop primrose and borage oil. And try to lower omega 6 dosage in diet and only take fish oil caps like you. Thanks for pointing that out. :dance:

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(@reisereise)

Posted : 03/05/2007 10:32 am

After my very short experiment with Probiotics ended in total disaster I've decided to give this a go :). I've managed to get a bottle of EPA Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg from Holland & Barrett which contains 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA, it says you can take one to three pills a day .... I plan to take 3 pills which I'm assuming is perfectly safe if stated on the bottle. I'm not sure how all of this will go because of having Crohns, I seem to be more sensitive to high doses of anything.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/05/2007 10:54 am

After my very short experiment with Probiotics ended in total disaster I've decided to give this a go :). I've managed to get a bottle of EPA Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg from Holland & Barrett which contains 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA, it says you can take one to three pills a day .... I plan to take 3 pills which I'm assuming is perfectly safe if stated on the bottle. I'm not sure how all of this will go because of having Crohns, I seem to be more sensitive to high doses of anything.

Please tell me what Crohns is, I don't want you to be doing anything harmful to yourself, in case it does have an effective.

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(@reisereise)

Posted : 03/05/2007 11:08 am

After my very short experiment with Probiotics ended in total disaster I've decided to give this a go :). I've managed to get a bottle of EPA Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg from Holland & Barrett which contains 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA, it says you can take one to three pills a day .... I plan to take 3 pills which I'm assuming is perfectly safe if stated on the bottle. I'm not sure how all of this will go because of having Crohns, I seem to be more sensitive to high doses of anything.

Please tell me what Crohns is, I don't want you to be doing anything harmful to yourself, in case it does have an effective.

 

It's basically a very severe case of IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome), I suffer from inflammation and ulcers on the lining of my stomach. There is actually no link between diet and Crohns, so I've been told by my specialist over and over again, it's basically genetic and a total lottery if you develop it. Dont worry I wont be ranting at anyone if my stomach reacts badly, it wont be the first time ... it's just a matter of testing where my boundarys lie. I do happen to think Crohn's plays a massive factor in my acne in some way.

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(@anony-2)

Posted : 03/05/2007 11:47 am

i used to have really oily skin until i started taking omega 3's as well. i started out with flax and have switched to fish oil since

should I replace flax oil with fish oil? Everyone seems to be praising fish oil. I am following Bob's regime.

 

I follow his regimen too, except I researched that borage and evening primrose are high in omega 6, so I just take omega 3 (fish oil) for my EFAs

 

You know I just researched it just to find it out for myself. And also found that borage and primrose has alot of omega 6. maybe thats why I haven't gotten more clear and went more worse. I been taking them last 3 weeks. Plus I looked up my food intake and didn't realize that so many foods I ate have omega 6. No more nuts for me!! So I am going to stop primrose and borage oil. And try to lower omega 6 dosage in diet and only take fish oil caps like you. Thanks for pointing that out. :dance:

 

i would say drop the EPO and keep taking borage. the GLA in borage is anti-inflammatory, unlike the omega-6 found in food.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/05/2007 3:12 pm

After my very short experiment with Probiotics ended in total disaster I've decided to give this a go :). I've managed to get a bottle of EPA Fish Oil Concentrate 1000mg from Holland & Barrett which contains 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA, it says you can take one to three pills a day .... I plan to take 3 pills which I'm assuming is perfectly safe if stated on the bottle. I'm not sure how all of this will go because of having Crohns, I seem to be more sensitive to high doses of anything.

Please tell me what Crohns is, I don't want you to be doing anything harmful to yourself, in case it does have an effective.

 

It's basically a very severe case of IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome), I suffer from inflammation and ulcers on the lining of my stomach. There is actually no link between diet and Crohns, so I've been told by my specialist over and over again, it's basically genetic and a total lottery if you develop it. Dont worry I wont be ranting at anyone if my stomach reacts badly, it wont be the first time ... it's just a matter of testing where my boundarys lie. I do happen to think Crohn's plays a massive factor in my acne in some way.

 

Ah understood, I am glad that the diet won't affect it, as said by your doctor. Keep us posted, it takes a good 2 weeks of proper supplementation to see the effects that you want to see. But two weeks is nothing, a blessing honestly. Most things takes months to notice a difference. The good thing is your body will start utilizing these EFA's right away, since they are so vital.

Also please note the cleanser you use, that has a huge roll to play in oil production, your regimen

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(@hitch)

Posted : 03/05/2007 5:09 pm

OK so I have Borage Oil and a Cod Liver Oil/Evening Primrose Oil combination pill. I'm not sure if I understand how to add up Omega-3s and 6s based on the labels. Here is what they look like:

Cod Liver Oil/Evening Primrose Oil:

Cod Liver Oil... 500mg

(EPA)... 38mg

(DHA)... 38mg

Evening Primrose Oil... 500mg

(GLA) 45mg

(LA) 365mg

 

Borage Oil... 1000mg

(GLA)... 240mg

(LA)... 360mg

 

So does the 500mg in the Cod Liver Oil refer to the amount of Omega 3s or do I need to add up the EPAs and DHAs? Also, most of you are saying that Omega-6 and 9 are bad. Are GLA and LA omega-6s? If so, should I not be taking these pills? They seem to be working well for me (I've been using them for about a week and a half) so I'd be hesitant to stop using them. I asked about it in another thread and someone basically said that most of the Omega-6 we get from our normal diets are not the type of Omega-6s we really want, whereas these pills provide them in a safe form.

 

Anyways, if someone could help me understand how to read these labels that would be amazing. :cool:

 

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(@anony-2)

Posted : 03/05/2007 5:56 pm

OK so I have Borage Oil and a Cod Liver Oil/Evening Primrose Oil combination pill. I'm not sure if I understand how to add up Omega-3s and 6s based on the labels. Here is what they look like:

Cod Liver Oil/Evening Primrose Oil:

Cod Liver Oil... 500mg

(EPA)... 38mg

(DHA)... 38mg

Evening Primrose Oil... 500mg

(GLA) 45mg

(LA) 365mg

Borage Oil... 1000mg

(GLA)... 240mg

(LA)... 360mg

So does the 500mg in the Cod Liver Oil refer to the amount of Omega 3s or do I need to add up the EPAs and DHAs? Also, most of you are saying that Omega-6 and 9 are bad. Are GLA and LA omega-6s? If so, should I not be taking these pills? They seem to be working well for me (I've been using them for about a week and a half) so I'd be hesitant to stop using them. I asked about it in another thread and someone basically said that most of the Omega-6 we get from our normal diets are not the type of Omega-6s we really want, whereas these pills provide them in a safe form.

Anyways, if someone could help me understand how to read these labels that would be amazing. 😎

the omega 3 you're getting is the sum of the epa and dha (which isn't much at all in your case). omega 3 is also found in flax in the form of ALA. GLA is an omega 6 but it is anti-inflammatory so its good for acne sufferers. LA is the inflammatory kind of omega 6 that you typically get too much of if you eat a typical American diet. i would recommend that you keep taking the borage oil for GLA and drop the other one because youre not getting much of the anti-inflammatory types of fats (EPA, DHA, and GLA) from that pill. Instead take fish oil pills to get EPA and DHA. A standard fish oil pill contains about 180 mg EPA and 120 mg DHA. There are ones that contain more, which would be better, but they are usually more expensive.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/05/2007 9:33 pm

I'm now on week 3. (day 15)

 

The oil on my face is no longer the type of oil that clogs my face and I can FEEL the difference. Holy SHIT

 

sorry about that, I'm just that amazed.

 

Before, I could feel the oil on my face. That meant it was too thick, un natural!

 

Now it's normal, I can't even feel it. It's so light and moisturizing I actually love excess oil now. It really does keep skin looking good and nice :)

 

I can't believe I'm saying all this!!

 

I'm so happy, thank GOD

 

Sure, the "amount" of excess oil is the same, but trust me, oil production working normally becomes your best friend, and not your enemy

 

Practicing skin care, and not skin "damage" is fun and exciting.

 

I had a white head in the beginning of the week, by the end of this week, there was no head, it's almost flat, and barely any blemish! It's feeling really good.

 

I'm starting to worry less and less about my skin, as it's starting to feel like every other part of my body.

2 weeks have finished in all, I can't wait to finish a month!

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