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i just bought these, the thing is i have a really hard time swallowing pills, its like my body won't let me
they are softcaps so they're flexible and have liqiud on the inside. Do you think i could bite into these or just drink the oil out of the center, or will they only work if swallowed??
It's more than just omega 3-6-9 oils. Coconut oil balances out the omegas and lecithin helps absorb it into your system. Then you have your vitamins A,B,C,D,E's and such. It's probably better to get them from the foods you eat but starting on supplements isn't bad and adjusting your diet to intake the daily recommended dosage can follow. Total EFA liquid form is awesome, I simply drizzle it into my food or take it straight. I haven't noticed any odd tastes, but everyones palate is different.
Is this alright to take if I'm also using tazorac on every other night? I recently bough a bottle of carlson's cod liver oil a couple weeks ago and I'm taking a little less than a tablespoon a day. Should I ramp up the dosage?
yes to the first q and no to the second. that seems like plenty.
I wonder whether taking some fish oil supps/increasing the quantity of omegas in my diet might be helpful for restoring the sebum in my skin and making it less dry post roaccutane. What do you guys think and what sort of regimen might be suitable?
Use Jojoba oil or vita oil as a moisturizer post tane, it's keeping my dryness nicely at bay and I had full dose (80mg)
lilpuss said:This may be a really dumb question - but is extra virgin olive oil healthy in omega 3 fats, or omega 6...???
Omega-3 vs Omega-6
Olive Oil contains the two essential fatty acids. There is currently debate about how much omega-3 versus omega-6 one should have in their diet. The two fatty acids compete for space in the cell membranes. Studies show that there are benefits and risks to too much of either. While more of the omega-3 alpha Linolenic acid can help prevent heart disease, studies have suggested it may increase prostate cancer and macular degeneration7. According to the Merck Manual, an authoritative medical text, essential fatty acids should make up 1-2% of the dietary calories for adults with a suggested ratio of 10:1 for omega-6:omega-3 fatty acids.
Olive oil is about 10% linoleic acid (an omega-6 oil) and about 1% linolenic acid (an omega-3 oil), therefore the ratio is 10:1
If you were using only olive oil for your dietary fat and fats represented 30% of the calories in your diet, then you would be getting 3% of your calories in the form of essential fatty acids in a 10:1 ratio. Other more recent studies suggest closer to a 5:1 ratio may be more beneficial.
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Look into Total EFA by Health From the Sun, I use the liquid version.
Has anybody read the articles of Ray Peat? Ray Peat is a Ph.D. biologist, who strongly argues against fish oil consumption. Please check out the folling articles:
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturatedfats.shtml
Also check out the following forums:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AV-Skeptics/messages
http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateF.../nutrition.msnw
The moderators of both forums make a strong case against PUFA (including fish oil) consumption.
wtf man, EFA = bad for you? this blows my mind, im gonna look into this.
The thing they don't tell you is that you don't need to have any COX-2 activity (inflammation), and if you don't, this is the healthiest possible state, assuming you have Mead acid instead of arachidonic acid in your cells. A diet very low in all PUFAs will lead to your body ridding itself of the AA, which takes about two years. At that point, assuming everything else you are doing is healthy, you won't have any "inflammatory diseases."
It makes sense though that all poly unsaturated fats are bad for you. we know the large quantities of omega 6 in vegetable oils is, what actual evidence is there that omega 3 & 6 are 'essential'? they are highly instable fats. I know about studies that they improve brain and nerves function, but how much of those studies are true? Im gonna dig 
wtf man, EFA = bad for you? this blows my mind, im gonna look into this.
The thing they don't tell you is that you don't need to have any COX-2 activity (inflammation), and if you don't, this is the healthiest possible state, assuming you have Mead acid instead of arachidonic acid in your cells. A diet very low in all PUFAs will lead to your body ridding itself of the AA, which takes about two years. At that point, assuming everything else you are doing is healthy, you won't have any "inflammatory diseases."It makes sense though that all poly unsaturated fats are bad for you. we know the large quantities of omega 6 in vegetable oils is, what actual evidence is there that omega 3 & 6 are 'essential'? they are highly instable fats. I know about studies that they improve brain and nerves function, but how much of those studies are true? Im gonna dig 🙂
It's not possible to have "no inflammation". Everyday things such as breathing and eating cause some amount of inflammation. And I thought cardio and weight-lifting were healthy? Cardio causes slight inflamation in the cardiac and respiratory systems so that they can heal and respond by getting stronger. Same with weightlifting and muscles. I think some of it's bs and some of it i just dont know :doh: ...
I didn't want to create another thread for this question but I wanted to know I bought a bottle of Omega 3 and the I dunno if the batch is bad or not. The pills are hard and there top layer is kinda shedding, this is actually the second bottle. I took the first one back yesterday, exchange it and the second bottle is the same way. I don't want to go back if there isn't anything wrong but I wanted to make sure.
can i just pop 3 pills of fish oil supplement(1000mg) and forget about virgin oil thingy? Are peanuts substitutes for the olive oil? ( I rarely eat peanuts as i hate them,but since it will help clear my acne, i will try to eat them )PLease answer this!!! >.<
-It depends on the pills, but liquid fish oil or cod liver oil is better (and cheaper)-take the amount the bottle says.
-The olive oil is very helpful as it helps keep the fish oil from oxidizing as well as gives it's own benefits, not least of which is being anti-inflammatory.
-Peanuts are a good source of omega 6's, and they are taken for an entirely different reason than the olive oil. You can also eat 1-2 servings of some other nut instead like walnuts or cashews, or use a nut-butter.
Is anyone following Romeo's regimen? I'm trying to but it's really hard to get all that olive oil in per day. I try to take:
-2 tsp liquid cod liver oil (am & pm)
-1/4 cup peanuts
-3 tbsp. olive oil (spread out through the day w/meals)
it's tough. can't really tell if anything's working . breakouts seem to be somewhat reduced if i remember to take everything though.
I am confused as to what is going on with this thread.... I have been taking 14 caps daily of this fish oil supplement - http://www.amazon.com/Spring-Valley-Fish-O...s/dp/B000NZ2B4U . It has been working GREAT. Is this something I should not be doing?
I am confused as to what is going on with this thread.... I have been taking 14 caps daily of this fish oil supplement - http://www.amazon.com/Spring-Valley-Fish-O...s/dp/B000NZ2B4U . It has been working GREAT. Is this something I should not be doing?
if its working, then youve got nothing to worry about. its not fucked up for your body like B5 or whatever B it is people take so dont worry about it and do whats working. consider lowering the dosage though after a while. ive been at it for a year this month and i only take two a day and have the same results.
diet is still the main factor. nothing specific, its pretty much if I eat a lot of bad shit i'll start to break out. if im eating well with only minimal bad stuff, the fish oil has got me covered. so valentines fucked me pretty good but i'll be back to mostly clear in a couple days of healthiness. gotta indulge sometimes, only live once.
good luck to everyone else working on it.
After reading this thread, i am still confused on which pills to take and what to look for so can someone please answer my questions with a straight answer?
1. What pills should i buy and how much should i take a day and what hours of the day?
2. I weigh 160lbs, i eat chicken breast with olive oil and peas and carrots for lunch and dinner.
Thank you
Well. Although this may be my first post on this website but I have been frequenting this website (this thread particularly) for quite some time now. I have gone through this topic almost completely and also tried to follow the suggestions made in it.
I have been taking cod liver oil 15 ml + for around 6 weeks and I have indeed experienced significant changes. I do realise though that CLO by itself need not necessarily be THE CURE for acne but it has helped me control my breakouts quite significantly. And also I have experienced quite a few supplementary benefits such as more vivid dreams, greater mental acuity ( I am an engineering student btw 
), less depression, sounder sleep etc.
So all in all I am quite pleased with the results but I personally feel that the diet modifications have played an equally important role. I havent necessarily eliminated the bad foods completely but I have restricted their intake. And I have tried to use digestive enzymes (diastase) which have helped me with grains. also these enzymes may help with better absorption o the vitamins and supplements. So basically as of now I can have lots of grains but still not get breakout 
. but I stil avoid sugar and dairy as much as I can.
but the real problem for me is avoiding oils because I have to eat whatever is prepared in the hostel mess and those idiots use hydrogenated oil as if it were olive oil. I have been looking for a way to bypass this 'oil trouble' for example if I take a tablespoon of psyllium husk right after the unhealthy meal then I rarely have trouble. but the problem with it is that I cannot take my supplements (zinc, vit c , vit E, fish oil). this has been bothering me for quite sometime now.
I wonder if there is something I could do which would provide me a little leeway with the oils?? 
here are some general observations that I have had (experientially) over the last 2 months:
* A single and permanent (+ non-harmful in other ways) cure for acne is yet to be found imo. I strongly feel that in most cases it has to do more with whats going on inside rather than on the surface level. It may involve some lifestyle modification which may be discomforting initially but will go on to serve us really well in the long run in other aspects of health as well. I sincerely believe that people on this particular sub-forum are going to live longer, healthier and happier(?) than most of the average folks around.
* Cod liver oil certainly helps with controlling breakouts.
* zinc is also pretty potent in this regard especially if you tend to mas***bate frequently. 
* vit C is also good for us ( acne or no acne)
* overeating is to be avoided even with good stuff 
* bad oils are the worst culprit imo. sugar, dairy follow it.
* not too many fruits at once
* Proper sleep schedule is highly underrated in fighting acne.
* digestive enzymes also help (especially with grains)
* may sound gross but I can actually predict my breakouts by analysing the color of my pee. basically the lesser the clarity, greater the chances of an imminent breakout. 
* it is quite important to become a good label reader
* romeo deserves a gold star. 
* acne.org is an exceptional effort. dan is the man!
* www.nutritiondata.com is yet another brilliant website that has helped me loads during my struggle with acne. whatever you eat you can actually check out the effect it is going to have on your body and skin prior to that.
* whoever said " ignorance is bliss" ought to be castrated. 
fu*k**g bastard. I could have helped myself a long time ago if only I had been a little more proactive. I missed out on so much of my life because of this affliction. this thing took away 5 years of my life. I am already 22 and I still dont have complete control over it.
note: as I already mentioned these my beliefs and personal observations which i feel could possibly help a few people.
waiting eagerly for some conclusive summations from the 'fish oil brigade' (romeo and co.)
kaizen
I would avoid high dose of cod liver oil since it has vitamin A as well, and high vitamin A is toxic and bad
Indeed.
In my opinion, you're better off taking standard fish oil and obtaining your vit A in the form of beta-carotene. That way, you don't have to stress about meeting or exceeding the RDA since beta-carotene is virtually non-toxic, even at "megadoses" (100,000 IU+).
Quality sources of beta-carotene include: sweet red peppers, hot chili peppers, carrots, sweet potatoes, kale, spinach, cantaloupe, peaches, and apricots.
-Cleric