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hey hope someone can help me ive just started taking epa fish oil conentrate capsules 1000mg and wondered how many i should take ive been on them about 2 weeks now and im on 6 a day usually take 2 pills 3 times a day, but to be honest im not sure what is the right amount to take.
Background, I am on DKR/ACV/Good Diet. But I have moderate acne so those help a lot but not 100%.I've been at 6.3g (EPA/DHA) now for a week, I have confirmed...
success so far! No new break outs for two days now. 3.5g didn't work. This has finally worked.
Sweet, it may be because you aren't digesting the oils right maybe? But that's wiered that the 6.3 grams works and not the 3.5 grams. But congrats, I am glad it is helping!
hey hope someone can help me ive just started taking epa fish oil conentrate capsules 1000mg and wondered how many i should take ive been on them about 2 weeks now and im on 6 a day usually take 2 pills 3 times a day, but to be honest im not sure what is the right amount to take.
How many grams of omega 3 are there in each capsule? Also check the serving amount
Is anyone using pre emulsified omega 3?
Shaking cod liver oil together with milk or juice will emulsify it - break it down into tiny suspended globules that will aid absorption. This is the process that occurs naturally in the stomach. The real advantage of taking pre-emulsified fish oil products is that it helps to avoid "fishy burps". Emulsified fish oil supplements are now widely available, but there is no reason why you shouldn't shake up your own if you wish.
Also has anyone tried taking a decent amount of lipase which their omega 3?
Just curious - trying to maximize absorption rather than just taking tons of the stuff like everyone else - I like swimming upstream!
hey ndnromeohere are the details of my fish oil pills
fish oil 1000mg
contains
epa 180mg
dha 120mg
vitamin e 0.74mg
also it says take 1 to 3 capsules daily preferably with a meal. if you can tell me how many i should take daily i would be grateful.
Perfect. So 300 mg per capsule. Aim for 3 capsules a day for the first few days. That is 900 mg (0.9 grams). Then go to 6 if you feel fine, and then 9. But do this slowly. 9 capsules a day will bring you to 2.7 grams of omega 3 which is good.
Is anyone using pre emulsified omega 3?
Shaking cod liver oil together with milk or juice will emulsify it - break it down into tiny suspended globules that will aid absorption. This is the process that occurs naturally in the stomach. The real advantage of taking pre-emulsified fish oil products is that it helps to avoid "fishy burps". Emulsified fish oil supplements are now widely available, but there is no reason why you shouldn't shake up your own if you wish.Also has anyone tried taking a decent amount of lipase which their omega 3?
Just curious - trying to maximize absorption rather than just taking tons of the stuff like everyone else - I like swimming upstream!
I haven't tried that, but I have taken digestive enzymes with my fish oil that included lipase. I cannot tell you exactly how effective it was because it was an up and down phase (good times and bad times) without too much correlation :(. But remember, we're all different, try it out it's definitely worth it.
I'd like to know if anyone here has been taking liquid fish oil? I'm thinking of doing this to help eliminate the number of supplements I have to take daily, fish oil being the majority of them. My question is however, is it bearable? Do you just gulp down a few spoons without a problem or is there something you can do or add it to in order to eliminate the taste? I've never tried it before so I'm not sure what I'm in for 
I'd like to know if anyone here has been taking liquid fish oil? I'm thinking of doing this to help eliminate the number of supplements I have to take daily, fish oil being the majority of them. My question is however, is it bearable? Do you just gulp down a few spoons without a problem or is there something you can do or add it to in order to eliminate the taste? I've never tried it before so I'm not sure what I'm in for 🙂
Yup, I am taking cod liver oil right now to test it out, and it doesn't taste like much of anything 🙂 It's easier than expected, and you eliminate doubt about what they put in these fish oil capsules as fillers...
I'd like to know if anyone here has been taking liquid fish oil? I'm thinking of doing this to help eliminate the number of supplements I have to take daily, fish oil being the majority of them. My question is however, is it bearable? Do you just gulp down a few spoons without a problem or is there something you can do or add it to in order to eliminate the taste? I've never tried it before so I'm not sure what I'm in for 🙂Yup, I am taking cod liver oil right now to test it out, and it doesn't taste like much of anything 🙂 It's easier than expected, and you eliminate doubt about what they put in these fish oil capsules as fillers...
I just looked into cod liver oil and noticed that either in supplement form or liquid form it contained vitamin A. You may want to watch out for how much you take if this is the case for the one your taking. What it looks like, is you wouldn't be able to get enough Omega3 out of it because you'd be overdosing Vit. A.
This on the other hand, http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail....4caa39fcea0ce8b
seems to be a good choice. Only 1 spoonful gives you 1600mg Omega3, which means all you'd really need is like 2 spoons daily.
I'd like to know if anyone here has been taking liquid fish oil? I'm thinking of doing this to help eliminate the number of supplements I have to take daily, fish oil being the majority of them. My question is however, is it bearable? Do you just gulp down a few spoons without a problem or is there something you can do or add it to in order to eliminate the taste? I've never tried it before so I'm not sure what I'm in for 🙂Yup, I am taking cod liver oil right now to test it out, and it doesn't taste like much of anything 🙂 It's easier than expected, and you eliminate doubt about what they put in these fish oil capsules as fillers...
I just looked into cod liver oil and noticed that either in supplement form or liquid form it contained vitamin A. You may want to watch out for how much you take if this is the case for the one your taking. What it looks like, is you wouldn't be able to get enough Omega3 out of it because you'd be overdosing Vit. A.
This on the other hand, http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail....4caa39fcea0ce8b
seems to be a good choice. Only 1 spoonful gives you 1600mg Omega3, which means all you'd really need is like 2 spoons daily.
I chose the twin labs one at whole foods. Almost the same amount, for twice less on price, plus equally as good of a brand too.
Yea, the good news is that I found out that toxicity is mostly in supplemental forms, or water soluble forms. So that's a good thing. (I am going to have to edit the main post about cod liver oil soon. The oil soluble natural form is very safe (to a limit of course). 🙂 Check this out
Vitamin A is an important nutrient yet there is much confusion surrounding its appropriate form, dosage and source. I always cringe when I hear people who think they understand nutrition describing how vegetables like carrots are excellent sources of vitamin A. There are no plant sources of vitamin A -- it is only present in animal products.Due to the commonly heard warnings that too much vitamin A is toxic and can result in birth defects, liver abnormalities, and reduced bone mineral density -- many people are afraid of taking too much of this nutrient.
What is rarely addressed, and must be considered along with these warnings, is the TYPE of vitamin A. There is a big difference between synthetic vitamin A and vitamin A from natural sources. Most cases of vitamin A toxicity result from an excess intake of synthetic vitamin A in supplements, NOT the natural form of retinol (vitamin A) found in cod liver oil.
Because cod liver oil contains vitamin D there's no need to worry about vitamin A toxicity if you take it in cod liver oil. It is virtually impossible to become toxic on vitamin A if you take it along with vitamin D. As evidenced in a study published in the December 2003 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, vitamin D is associated with reduced vitamin A toxicity, and the vitamin D appears to protect against retinal toxicity.
An anti-infective vitamin, vitamin A is useful for many conditions including vision problems, poor thyroid function, a weakened immune system, and fighting off infections, especially those that involve mucous membranes as vitamin A is used to form the cells lining the digestive, respiratory, reproductive and urinary tracts and all tissue linings of the body. Night blindness, dry eyes, eye infections and skin problems are just some of the conditions associated with Vitamin A deficiency.
As I mentioned earlier, cod liver oil is one of the best sources of vitamin D (other than the sun), but what you may not know is that it is also one of the best sources of vitamin A
I was concerned about that very much as well, so I went and researched and thank God it's quite safe 🙂 Plus the retinol content is amazing! Check this out. I was curious as to why mercola said as to why there was no plant vitamin A sources and found out... that all veggies have is primarily beta carotene which then eventually gets converted to vitamin A, but not retinol form like cod liver has
Raw Carrots 1 cupVitamin A, IU 2151808.0 IU 43036%
Retinol0.0 mcg
Vitamin A, RAE107648.0 mcg
Cod Liver Oil 3 tsp
Vitamin A, IU13500.0 IU 270%
Retinol 4050.0 mcg
Vitamin A, RAE4050.0 mcg
Also this
The serum levels of zinc and retinol-binding protein (RBP) have been determined in 173 patients with acne and compared with those of a control group. The RBP is a specific transport protein and its level in plasma reflects the amount of vitamin A available to the tissues. Patients with severe acne were found to have lower levels of RBP than either patients with mild acne or healthy subjects ofthe same age. In the case of males with severe acne, the mean serum zinc level was significantly lower than that of the control group. No such difference was observed for girls. The observed condition of low levels of zinc and vitamin A in the serum of patients with severe acne may provide a rationale for the clinically good effect of oral zinc treatment.http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/1...journalCode=bjd
Zinc is important in the treatment of acne. It is involved in local hormone activation, retinol binding protein formation, wound healing, immune system activity, and tissue regeneration.
The last benefit is no more pills, or guessing whether oil is rancid. I open a fresh nitrogen sealed bottle with no fillers, led, pcb's and keep it in a cold fridge after every use. It's really awesome.
zinc, omega 3, and retinol for the win!
I've been on Omega 3 (epa 180mg,dha 120mg) 3 1000mg capsules a day for about 4 weeks. Noticed a little difference after 2 weeks, then about 3.5 weeks into it I had a major breakout. The kind of breakout I haven't had in years. I'm also on Zinc and B complex (50mg and 50mg). I stopped taking the Omega 3. Did anyone else experience this ? Should I increase the Omega 3 before giving up altogether ? thanks for the help.
I've been on Omega 3 (epa 180mg,dha 120mg) 3 1000mg capsules a day for about 4 weeks. Noticed a little difference after 2 weeks, then about 3.5 weeks into it I had a major breakout. The kind of breakout I haven't had in years. I'm also on Zinc and B complex (50mg and 50mg). I stopped taking the Omega 3. Did anyone else experience this ? Should I increase the Omega 3 before giving up altogether ? thanks for the help.
Try a liquid source of fish oil, those are generally better. Because you won't wonder about rancidity, and the filler material etc.
Hey Ndn, i have had two dizzy spells recently. This is within my second week of doing 7 grams of omega 3 a day in the form of Cod liver oil. They have both happened in the past 3 days, not at the start.
You reckon this has any connection with the fish oil? I recall you mentioning having some experience with this.
Hey Ndn, i have had two dizzy spells recently. This is within my second week of doing 7 grams of omega 3 a day in the form of Cod liver oil. They have both happened in the past 3 days, not at the start.You reckon this has any connection with the fish oil? I recall you mentioning having some experience with this.
I've been doing about 4g of Omega3 from Fish Oil and 3.5g of Omega3 from Flax Seed, and I've had some light-headedness (almost dizzy), and daily light headaches within a few hours of taking Omega3. I think my body is just adjusting as well, maybe it'll subside after a few weeks.
Hey Ndn, i have had two dizzy spells recently. This is within my second week of doing 7 grams of omega 3 a day in the form of Cod liver oil. They have both happened in the past 3 days, not at the start.You reckon this has any connection with the fish oil? I recall you mentioning having some experience with this.
I've been doing about 4g of Omega3 from Fish Oil and 3.5g of Omega3 from Flax Seed, and I've had some light-headedness (almost dizzy), and daily light headaches within a few hours of taking Omega3. I think my body is just adjusting as well, maybe it'll subside after a few weeks.
I hope so. The thing is i don't want anyone trying fish oil to suddenly start feeling these symptoms because two people have mentioned it lol.
I am the opposite of a hypochondriac though and can say for definite that they were dizzy spells. I felt pretty nauseous as if if i had maybe got in a car and got a little additional motion sickness then i might just barf. Vision was a tad affected and sense of balance was wobbling around.
I've considered that it might be the vitamin A or D i'm getting from the cod liver oil.
Hey Ndn, i have had two dizzy spells recently. This is within my second week of doing 7 grams of omega 3 a day in the form of Cod liver oil. They have both happened in the past 3 days, not at the start.You reckon this has any connection with the fish oil? I recall you mentioning having some experience with this.
Why are you doing 7 grams of omega 3 in the form of cod liver oil? That is really crazy. You need to cut that in more than half! And the other reason is the retinol (vitamin a) content. It's safe in natural form, but at the amount you are taking, that is way too much! Remember, that is a LOT of omega 3 and more than anyone needs! Plus the vitamin A content, it sounds like you are ingesting too much and that is very very dangerous, please do lower it! I cannot stress that enough. And also because it is in a pure liquid form, you are absorbing more than what you would through capsules so you naturally get more omega 3. Say you took 7 grams through capsules, you'd absorb a certain percentage of it. But through liquids, it's much more as well.
Can you calculate how much you are getting?
If you are taking the same brand I am, twin labs, I would stick to 2 servings, or perhaps 3. Do not go more than that. If you are using another brand then that all changes.
I personally get 2.7 grams in 3 servings, and that is enough too.
Hey Ndn, i have had two dizzy spells recently. This is within my second week of doing 7 grams of omega 3 a day in the form of Cod liver oil. They have both happened in the past 3 days, not at the start.You reckon this has any connection with the fish oil? I recall you mentioning having some experience with this.
I've been doing about 4g of Omega3 from Fish Oil and 3.5g of Omega3 from Flax Seed, and I've had some light-headedness (almost dizzy), and daily light headaches within a few hours of taking Omega3. I think my body is just adjusting as well, maybe it'll subside after a few weeks.
I hope you did actually read the first post about dosing omega 3. To put it lightly, if you are starting, you should be doing less than a 1/4 of what you are ingesting right now to begin with and 4 grams is a ceiling.
Hey Ndn, i have had two dizzy spells recently. This is within my second week of doing 7 grams of omega 3 a day in the form of Cod liver oil. They have both happened in the past 3 days, not at the start.You reckon this has any connection with the fish oil? I recall you mentioning having some experience with this.
Why are you doing 7 grams of omega 3 in the form of cod liver oil? That is really crazy. You need to cut that in more than half! Remember, that is a LOT of omega 3 and more than anyone needs!
I personally get 2.7 grams in 3 servings, and that is enough too.
What makes you think this?
How do you know how much omega 3 is required?
The source i was using was based off recommendations by Charles Poliquin and Dr. John Beradi. The latter being a world reknowned nutrionist.
As far as i know there aren't any rules to how much you should take of this and there isn't even an upper tolerable limit set.
I am curious of which source you get your guidelines from. I am under the impression that omega 3s lower your blood pressure which could cause the dizziness.
Hey Ndn, i have had two dizzy spells recently. This is within my second week of doing 7 grams of omega 3 a day in the form of Cod liver oil. They have both happened in the past 3 days, not at the start.You reckon this has any connection with the fish oil? I recall you mentioning having some experience with this.
Why are you doing 7 grams of omega 3 in the form of cod liver oil? That is really crazy. You need to cut that in more than half! Remember, that is a LOT of omega 3 and more than anyone needs!
I personally get 2.7 grams in 3 servings, and that is enough too.
What makes you think this?
How do you know how much omega 3 is required?
The source i was using was based off recommendations by Charles Poliquin and Dr. John Beradi. The latter being a world reknowned nutrionist.
As far as i know there aren't any rules to how much you should take of this and there isn't even an upper tolerable limit set.
I am curious of which source you get your guidelines from. I am under the impression that omega 3s lower your blood pressure which could cause the dizziness.
Sorry I was a little over excited yesterday so that response was too crazy, I apologize.
The EPA itself is the converted form of omega 3, that competes to balance with AA, not the LA form which comes in most foods. Check this out, we had a great discussion here
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=1864990
Also this chart
Check out where AA and EPA match up.
Also like you said, omega 3 lowers blood pressure and thins the blood. If you do want to stay at high doses, do it with regular fish oil liquid, and then take only the recommended dose of cod liver oil to get your retinol intake 🙂 That is of course you feel okay and your blood pressure is normal and you do not get dizzy, your health is most important.
That should be much safer, but for now I would reduce it and take it slow. One of the reasons is that after 1 week I've had really great results with just the recommended dosage in terms of skin condition, sebum composition and output, and even keratin production. Another reason is as follows, with just 3 teaspoons I will show you the retinol amount in it:
Cod Liver Oil 3 tsp
Vitamin A, IU13500.0 IU 270%
Retinol4050.0 mcg
Vitamin A, RAE4050.0 mcg
Males 19 years and older: 900 mcg or 3,000 IU of retinol (RDA)
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/vitamin-a-000331.htm
So basically with 3 teaspoons you get adequate retinol 🙂 So be rest assured, it will still do well for you. And also drink lots of water, it really hydrates your skin! It's really great. I used to get flakey skin no matter what I did, even if I used gentle face washes, I'd flake and dry. Now I am full of moisture in my skin and you can feel it, it's really great.
My lips used to peel a lot, I'd rub them and dead flakes would fall out, now that does not happen at all, it's great. I can even get away with just washing gently and not moisturizing if I want to also.
You also get 2.7 grams of omega 3 with the recommended amount (if you are taking twin labs). If you want more omega 3 than that then you can take the rest from regular fish oil, that may be a safer issue. And since you are still getting dizzy spells you should cut it down because your blood pressure is really low. I remember that happening once when I tried to take too much and my blood pressure was dangerously low when I measured it. So cut it down for now and if you do want to raise it, you can try it but just keep an eye on your blood pressure and make sure you are not getting those dizzy spells if you decide to do so. It's not safe like that 🙂
Hope that helps. Good luck and stay safe!
You make an interesting argument for cod liver oil . I may swap 8 pills a day (~‚£1 per day) to this
Seven seas extra high strength liquid
It's reasonably cheap, they sell it in supermarkets and i'd only need 2 spoons to match what i'm currently taking - maybe i'll take an extra one or two of my normal omega 3 capsules (i was on about 2.7 grams but a lot more EPA %). Plus i can test the emulsified theory. Works out at about 17p a day (bottle last 30 days). It doesn't have any flavourings in - i wonder if it'll taste delicious?
I am really excited to say that this is making a huge difference, in terms of skin condition. My skin is really soft now and it isn't dry, irritated, or anything, sebum seems to have completely regulated as well. I know I am on antibiotics right now but I don't think antibiotics hydrates skin or does anything for sebum or keratin production. The only way I will be 100% sure is when the antibiotics cycle is up so I can stop it and continue with what I am doing.
But just remember, the change you do today will show up in a week and a half to 3 weeks, because the skin cycle is about that long when all your skin cells turnover completely.
This is my daily regimen
Morning (after breakfast): 1 teaspoon cod liver oil + 1 zinc + 1 vitamin e + 2 saw palmetto
Afternoon: 1 tsp CLO + 1 calcium
Night: 1 tsp CLO + 2 saw palmetto
Lots of water! Your body will call for it.
Also, this is the nutritional information on the one I take
Twin labs liquid cod liver oil
Vitamin A 4615 IUVitamin D 462 IU
EPA 554 mg
DHA 369mg
So 3 tsp = about 2.7 grams of omega 3 and 14000 IU vitamn A / 13,500 IU vitamin D. As long as you're around that level with natural non emulsified cod liver oil you should be okay. But if your supplement has more than that, then take less of course to match that amount of vitamin a / d. And be sure it's a natural source, e-mail them to ask. Some companies may replace it with synthetic sources which IS dangerous. So make sure, or get twin labs if possible.
Here's why about the zinc
The serum levels of zinc and retinol-binding protein (RBP) have been determined in 173 patients with acne and compared with those of a control group. The RBP is a specific transport protein and its level in plasma reflects the amount of vitamin A available to the tissues. Patients with severe acne were found to have lower levels of RBP than either patients with mild acne or healthy subjects ofthe same age. In the case of males with severe acne, the mean serum zinc level was significantly lower than that of the control group. No such difference was observed for girls. The observed condition of low levels of zinc and vitamin A in the serum of patients with severe acne may provide a rationale for the clinically good effect of oral zinc treatment.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/1...journalCode=bjd
Zinc is important in the treatment of acne. It is involved in local hormone activation, retinol binding protein formation, wound healing, immune system activity, and tissue regeneration.
I posted these on the last page but here it is again just for the sake of being organized =D
Also links about keratin and vitamin a
Study on vitamin A (retinol) and keratin:
These results indicate that vitamin A produces more sweeping changes in keratinocyte function than previously appreciated in that many and perhaps all keratins are modulated by vitamin A.
http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/260/26/14026
A Vitamin A deficiency can cause a condition known as follicular keratosis, hyperkeratosis, or xeroderma, in which there is excessive production of keratin, a hard protein. Keratin deposits form around the hair follicles, resulting in a rough texture to the skin resembling 'goose flesh.' Facial skin that is scaly, off-color, cracked, or dry to the point of flaking may be attributed to a combination of PEM (protein energy malnutrition) and a lack of Vitamin A and iron.
http://www.innvista.com/health/nutrition/vitamins/a.htm
Control of keratin gene expression by vitamin A in tracheobronchial epithelial cells
TH Huang, DK Ann, YJ Zhang, AT Chang, JW Crabb and R Wu
California Primate Research Center, University of California, Davis 95616.
Vitamin A (retinol) treatment induces (and/or enhances) mucous cell differentiation and alters keratin gene expression in cultured airway epithelial cells of human and nonhuman primate origin. We observed that retinol greatly reduced the synthesis of keratins 5, 6, 14, 16, and 17, but slightly enhanced keratins 7, 8, 10, 13, 15, 18, and 19. These changes were also reflected at the mRNA level as demonstrated by cell- free translation and by cDNA cloning of human keratin genes based on differential hybridization. One of these cDNA clones, HT27, isolated from the cDNA library of human tracheobronchial epithelial cells and whose expression in cultured cells was greatly suppressed by retinol, had a nucleotide sequence identical to the C-terminus of keratin 16. The identity of this clone was further confirmed by Western blot analysis using an antibody specific to the 15-amino acid synthetic peptide and the C-terminal sequence. Using this cDNA clone and two known keratin clones, pKA1 (keratins 5 and 6) and pKB2 (keratin 14), we found the levels of these corresponding mRNAs in cultured cells to be reduced 10- to 25-fold after treatment of cells with vitamin A. The inhibition was time- and dose-dependent with respect to retinol and was sensitive to prior treatment with cycloheximide. However, nuclear run- on transcriptional assays revealed no significant reduction of the synthesis of these messages in retinol-treated cultures. Furthermore, no change in the half-life of these mRNAs was observed in cells after the retinol treatment. Based on these results, we conclude that vitamin A indirectly controls the synthesis of these keratins at the post- transcriptional level.
http://ajrcmb.atsjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/10/2/192
