Most times I wonder if when I break out if I could cope with the situation better maybe I could heal faster or not make it worse. Medicines, chemicals seem to not help my skin much and its been about 8 months since I recovered from a terrible outbreak that had me trapped in my house for months and having a breakdown. Now im breaking out a little again. one big cyst on my cheek...and ive cancelled big plans. am I crazy? why do I have to deal with this and since I have to deal with it...there must be a better way in coping....instead of driving myself crazy isolating myself n having my friends n family thinking im a nut. a part of me feels if I master this maybe it will then go away for good. any advice

Find a derm that will give you accutane. No point living like this. Also look into fermented foods (water kefir, beet kvass) and yoga for thyroid. Everything else is like a band aid accept accutane.

FYI: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/do-milk-and-sugar-cause-a_b_822163.html

oh no Accutane made matters worse. I took it last year. ill never go on that stuff again

You probably won't get anywhere with chemicals. The best way to get rid of acne is to find out what's causing it. You will have to ditch all the chemicals and medications and figure out why you have it in the first place.

I'm not going to give you treatment advice. I think you need some support here You are amazing, you are a unique, individual human being with things you rock at. Your acne is probably stressing you out thus causing more acne. Focus on how awesome you are, regardless of your skin. Your skin does not define you.

thanks Jen...I don't know why we r so physical. melloman im not using chemicals.... I wash with water n occasional tea tree soap. I think its just my hormones n the clay mask I used. I just have to accept my stress, genetics, n hormones all play a part in my occasional breakouts. when I think ive overcome the storm booom I get hit with an ugly pimple or pimples. its just my life I guess

 

You probably won't get anywhere with chemicals. The best way to get rid of acne is to find out what's causing it. You will have to ditch all the chemicals and medications and figure out why you have it in the first place.

How do you fix it if it's caused by bad genetics? How can you change your entire genetic makeup to prevent acne?

You aren't supposed to have acne. Acne is a rash. Genetics can play a role in acne, but it's not direct and it's rare that genetics is such a severe cause that nothing can be done. The reason the medical industry will shove the word 'genetics' down people's throats is another way to get people to accept acne as something that will be here, and that they will just have to treat with lab chemicals until it leaves.

It basically helps keep people from seeking further information as to why they have acne in the first place. In short; Genetics are overrated!

 

 

It basically helps keep people from seeking further information as to why they have acne in the first place. In short; Genetics are overrated!

The majority of people don't have acne, though. Especially adults. So if you still have it at that point it shows that your genetics are inferior to other people. And most people that have acne seem to respond to treatements. Someone on here said that he can use ProActiv and it gets rid of his acne. There is no proven method to cure acne, which is why derms push Accutane for people that don't respond. It has the risk of side effects but it's the closest "cure" that is scientifically backed.

 

And some people have been seeking information and trying to "cure" their acne for 20-30 years or more and they never find a solution. There are people on here that are in their 40's-50's and have tried everything at this point (diet changes, Accutane, everything you can think of) and it still won't respond to anything. You can only blame inferior genetics for that.

Nah. Acne is a serious problem in certain countries. You look at the countries, acne cases overtime, and agriculture, economical, and enviromental issues and you may see why. Genetics have little to do with why people have acne. It makes no sense for one person in a family to have bad cystic acne, when it was never a problem in the previous generations. And with all these acne cases in the country, it's not some new 'acne gene' that is being bread. It's the nation.

There's something causing people to be unhealthy thus causing diabetes, obesity, cancer, and rashes. And acne is one of these rashes.

I had acne for nearly a decade. Bad cystic acne that no treatment worked on. I could have had acne into my 30's and 40's. I saw those people on here who did. So I decided to stop waiting, and start on my journey to get rid of it. No excuses. No stopping me. I didn't just make dietary changes. Most people fail when they make some dietary changes because they have no idea what they were doing. What I did was figure out what was causing my acne. My underlying condition. It wasn't genes. Rashes aren't caused by bad genes.

I've had all kinds of rashes all my life since I was a baby. Right now I have pytorsis thereosis or whatever it's called. I still got rid of my acne even though it was an awful cystic mess that nothing ever worked on.

P.S.

I understand there are acne cases where they receive no response from treatments. I believe these are cases of underlying conditions that will take years of healing before even seeing results. Or there's something odd that's causing the reaction of acne.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/user/164977-treatacne/ She has had a similar experience. It's not an easy process.

In short, I feel the severity of your acne is a sign of how bad your underlying condition is. If the condition is worse, then your acne will be too. And your body won't be able to make use of drugs to help.

 

I've had all kinds of rashes all my life since I was a baby. Right now I have pytorsis thereosis or whatever it's called. I still got rid of my acne even though it was an awful cystic mess that nothing ever worked on.

People in first world and third world countries both get acne. Diseases and illnesses can be caused by or made worse by genetics. That's why certain diseases run in families. I can go to any public place and barely see any (IF any) adults that have serious acne. You're using your own personal cause of acne as a one size fits all for everyone, basically saying "since my acne is less severe after doing this than that's the cause of acne for everyone".

 

The whole leaky gut theory has not been proven as real science, either. Some people claim that it's the cause of autism, acne, and everything else anyone has a problem with which is ridiculous.

 

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Clearly you didn't see my update.

P.S.

I understand there are acne cases where they receive no response from treatments. I believe these are cases of underlying conditions that will take years of healing before even seeing results. Or there's something odd that's causing the reaction of acne.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/user/164977-treatacne/ She has had a similar experience. It's not an easy process.

In short, I feel the severity of your acne is a sign of how bad your underlying condition is. If the condition is worse, then your acne will be too. And your body won't be able to make use of drugs to help.

And yes science have proven the leaky gut theory. Science is the study of life. Go research it yourself.

Look man, don't give up because you think there's nothing you can do about your acne. You're still here and you still seem to be searching for answers. Leaky gut isn't the only underlying condition there is. There is a girl who had cystic acne for years, and then it all disappeared when she stopped drinking coffee. There arr people who had serious infections, and their acne went away as soon as they got rid of them. Anything can be causing acne. I'm not saying my way is the only way. I'm just sharing my experience.

"Why is "leaky gut syndrome" medically unrecognised? You say that drugs don't help, but what about the people that are cured from drugs and don't have any side effects?"

Now for your questions. Leaky gut syndrome is recognized, just not very widely. This is because it's not treated seriously, and it causes a lot of side affects that the medical industry can profit off of. Some examples of these side affects: Hives, cramps, pains, acne, constipation, diarrhea, etc.

As far as drugs go, people aren't usually "cured" by drugs. They often tame the acne, but they never solve the problem. Even if they tame the acne, if the acne was cystic then it's more likely to come back later or show up someplace different than to actually be "cured." It's pretty rare that acne drug medication actually solves the problem.

Why do most people get acne as teenagers and once they become adults it goes away completely by itself?

There is a growing number of cases of adult acne. So that's getting to no longer be the case. But look at my previous posts. You'll get your answers by studying the nation. Just do more research, man.

There's also the rapid changes people's bodies go through during that period. That's a lot of stress. When the body is finished rapidly growing, you have more energy going toward getting rid of toxins.

The idea of "detoxifying" is not recognized by medical sources, either.

That's simply not true, dude.

If you don't believe In detoxification, you must not believe in the liver and kidneys. You might be frustrated, but let's just not say stupid things like that. The liver does in fact remove foreign substances from the body, known as xenobiotics.

If you're reading medical sources that don't mention that, then you need higher quality sources.

However, the idea that there are an infinite number of snake oil salesmen on the Interwebs selling solutions to the concept of removing toxins is true. And they are alive and well. Perhaps that's what you meant.

Rather than talking about treatment I'd just like to let you know, you're not crazy. I'm sure almost everyone here has canceled plans due to a break out sometime in their life. I myself have skipped days of school because of particularly bad zits. I know it sucks to think of the people who've never have a single pimple but, well, life isn't fair.

It might not be much but a little concealer goes a long way, and just try to remember that most people aren't actually going to be looking at your skin.

I am referring to the "alternative healing" crowd that throw around words like "toxins" and "detoxifying" without even defining what a "toxin" is. And the holistic definition of "detoxifying". Not the liveral and kidneys natural "detoxification" systems such as getting rid of metabolic wastes and such.

 

They also make bold claims such as saying that "toxins" cause bipolar, OCD, acne, etc. without proving this. And yes, they will also try to ell you products to help "cure" these problems people are miserable from.

I see. I suspected that was kind of what you were getting at, hence that last sentence.

Yeah that's fair enough. That's one reason I never went on any extensive detox protocol, they all seem shady. In this respect, you do have a valid point in that the word toxin is rather vague as referred to by these practitioners. Personally, I prefer some degree of specificity, as I'm sure you do too. But I also can't completely discount the idea that there are plenty of environmental insults in some form or other that hit us every day.

It may be true that a single toxin doesn't do the damage that several of them in combination might do.

In sum, I think detox, or at least thinking of how you might support that process, is becoming increasingly important but it's also a good idea to get accurate information and not just fall for any web site on the net espousing the benefits of meditation, green tea and lemon water.

When it comes to being critical, and I sometimes fail here... there needs to be a balance. Some of the information might be of value. But, as far as I'm concerned, in this day and age of aggressive marketing... too many of us are suckers. In terms of salesmen and what not making bold claims regarding acne... unfortunately that's just how manipulative people can be.

I have a question for you though... maybe you've answered this elsewhere but how long have you had acne? When did you get it and what was the context surrounding it? Do you have a few pics so I can see the severity? You've said that diet hasn't helped you thus far... so I'd like to see what we're dealing with.