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Dont use Crazy Chemicals for face, you will break out more

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hi, ive been saying this for a long time now, people still dont believe me. i believe that acne is caused by the products we are using, and its a continuing cycle because once you finally get acne, you want to find a product to eliminate it. Most people dont realize that they are getting it more, the more they try the products, but its true. Everyone gets pimples sometime in their life, its natural because of hormones and all that, but it isnt suposed to be as severe as some people have now. I used to break out all the time, but once i started SPlASHING my face with water 6 to 10 times at once, for two times a day, and PATTING my face dry, they have gone away completely. I avoided rubbing oil off, some oil stays, but thats how its supposed to be, a natural moisterizer. Why would the body do this? i mean we've gone thousands of years with only water!!!!! we never had these crazy chemicals before!!! Your face reacts to these products, and they claim that its because your face is dirty, or oily. Well the reason your face is oily is because its trying to react with all that BP you put on your face and dry it out. Its so OBVEOUSE!!!! Since youve been using those products for a long time, your face will break out one more time after you start using this method, but for me it was only ONE more time, it was amazing, it just disapeared. Because thats how its supposed to be and its always been! Our body's wouldnt evolve to make us look horrible, and we only had water before, so its obveouse that the reason we break out so bad is because of the bad chemicals. In about a month , a month AT THE MOST, the acne will go away. THIS IS THE TRUTH , the companies keep selling millions and you keep having acne. Dont believe it, well havnt you noticed that the spots that you wash your face the most are the spots that have the most acne? or do you notice that people that dont really wash their face that much dont even have acne? there's a reason for this. Just try it out. never in history books, paintings, nothing, have we seen so much acne as we see now, 80 percent of teens have acne till their into their older teenage years, more and more people have it, because they wash their face with these products and agrivate their faces, and then begins the cycle. If your still looking for the "miracle product" , stop, cause the only way its a miracle is if your an investor or an owner and you will recieve millions of dollars off of some loser teenagers. If people tell you different, see what they're trying to sell you, there's alot of products advertised on this website and who knows, someone just might get pissed at what im writing, i know the last time i wrote something like this on here my membership was suspended, so read this while you have the chance

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Because you posted the same post nearly 20 times.

That's spam.

Now that you've outed yourself as being a currently suspended member, I'm going to be nice and not automatically suspend you.

Can't make any promises that another mod won't, though.

Be an active participant in this forum and don't post the exact same post 17 times in a row, and you'll do fine.

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Been there, done that... Got the T-shirt...

So the natural way to cure acne then is H20... Wow... So that's why they're sellling Evian like $20 bucks per bottle... Geeze... I wonder...

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This approach has been posted many times before in various forms so no need to spam the same message everywhere. Jan Carlo's thread states the same approach.

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its completely true though, why would companies make you bloody drugs or whatever or ointments for your face if it fixes you up totally, these are all profit making companies aiming for profit maxmisation, they dont get their money if you dont have acne.

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Im gonna have to totally agree 100% with you on this. The best thing Ive ever done is a simple light cleanser like cetaphil and pat dry my face daily n its done more than proactiv or any other product ive ever used. Ive been suffering for 7 long years n now my skin is slowly recovering from all the harsh crap ive stuffed on it over the years. At fist i broke out like mad crazy but it got better and better.

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its the breaking out like mad crazy that worries me, i dont want more red marks

oh and after stopping products and just washing face normally how long does it take for you to break out like mad?

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its the breaking out like mad crazy that worries me, i dont want more red marks

oh and after stopping products and just washing face normally how long does it take for you to break out like mad?

it probably wont be really bad, it wasnt really bad for me, it was just kinda bad, but its definately worth it. and it took about a week and a half, but i think that was just from the acne that was going to come out eventually anyway. so i dont think you have much to worry about, i did this starting in february, and after i broke out that once i havnt had not one pimple or anything, and i used to get cysts and pimples all the time, now not even a remote sign of any pimples or anything. but it doesnt eliminate the red marks , your just going to have to wait for them to fade, i dont know about putting on something to get rid of them, im not going to, i think that will mess up my face too.

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Well yeah ... being humans we want a quick fix... so everyone just wants it gone and to do that we use chemicals (usually too much).

Basicallly we like the option of Atomic bomb, compared to bullets when treating acne. I'm sorta with u .. i think everyone is fucking up their skin with chemicals... However ur theory of just using water in the past is flawed,

A) People in the past didnt have chemicals and drugs... i.e. HAVE the worst scarring ever!

B) People in the past, u wouldnt know about because their acne was soo bad in some cases commited suicide as a result.

You cannot compare past with present because acne has been around for everyone! regardless of nationalities and cultures (however environments may be better than some).

I do believe chemicals are being over-used causing more acne but without chemicals and drugs people wouldnt have the chance of a cure. I say listen to advice with chemicals and drugs and not go all out with them.

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i dont know what your talking about, people commiting suicide, but hey, i dont have acne now, and thats why i wrote that, it worked right away and it worked better than any product i ever used, so yeah, it works. anyway, i dont know where you got your "sources" but maybe you should list them down so people could check them out. I dont understand why people that havnt tried something act like they know all about it even though they havnt tried it.

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Well yeah ... being humans we want a quick fix... so everyone just wants it gone and to do that we use chemicals (usually too much).

Basicallly we like the option of Atomic bomb, compared to bullets when treating acne. I'm sorta with u .. i think everyone is fucking up their skin with chemicals... However ur theory of just using water in the past is flawed,

A) People in the past didnt have chemicals and drugs... i.e. HAVE the worst scarring ever!

B) People in the past, u wouldnt know about because their acne was soo bad in some cases commited suicide as a result.

You cannot compare past with present because acne has been around for everyone! regardless of nationalities and cultures (however environments may be better than some).

I do believe chemicals are being over-used causing more acne but without chemicals and drugs people wouldnt have the chance of a cure. I say listen to advice with chemicals and drugs and not go all out with them.

Agreed, I had acne for years before I did anything about it. I didn't wash my face with cleansers. I didn't use Tazorac, I didn't ever moisterize it, I just washed it lightly with water when it got oily. The result? The worst acne I've had throughout my entire life which still has left some scaring.

Since I've began actively treating it I have used a few products which caused irritation and more acne but for the most part they've helped. I really don't see any point in personally trying to go back to only washing with water when I already did that for years and know it doesn't work (for me).

Also there's one major flaw in your theory: If acne treatment products were the cause of acne why would anyone ever use acne treatment products - they wouldn't have acne so they wouldn't need to. Acne treatments wouldn't even exist in the first place if they were the cause of the problem. Granted, I think there's some credence to the idea that some of the harsher products might exascerbate the problem for some people (like you) but that doesn't mean it's the cause of acne for everyone.

Thsi thinking is like those who claim AIDS and HIV are caused by AZT and the retrovirals used for treating AIDS. Horray for completely reversing cause and effect! Just because everyone with bacterial infections takes antibiotics doesn't mean antibiotics cause bacterial infections! Just because everyone with breast cancer has chemotherapy doesn't mean chemotherapy causes cancer...

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There is some truth to the original post. It is possible to severely dehydrate your skin using excessive amounts of harsh products, especially in drugstore formulations that may also contain detergents and other nasty chemicals that damage your skin barrier. Dehydrated skin is more prone to comedone formation and is less capable of repairing itself.

However, it should be obvious to EVERYONE on this site that not everyone can cure their acne by washing with water. I know I can't.

The best way to approach your acne, IMO:

1) Determine what sort of acne it is, and what the appropriate treatment is for it. Mild, comedonal acne is different from moderate, inflammatory acne, which is again different from severe, cystic acne. There are appropriate treatments for each. So do your research. See a derm if necessary. Do NOT just rush out to the drugstore and buy everything in sight.

2) Use a very, very mild cleanser with no detergents. Do not scrub your face. Wash with lukewarm water and just use your fingertips to cleanse. Rinse thoroughly. Use a clean towel to pat dry. Do not wash more than twice a day. If you get oily, blot gently with blotting sheets or tissues.

3) Use your treatment(s). Use the recommended amount(s). Do not expect or attempt to solve your problem overnight. Be patient.

4) Use a light, noncomedogenic moisturizer (if necessary) with SPF (which IMO is necessary).

Finally ..... do not waste your money on toners, "treatment cleansers", masks, scrubs, or any other garbage that anyone wants to sell you. Keep it simple and don't overdo it. If after a couple of months you are not seeing any improvement ... then you probably have the wrong treatment. Go back to step 1.

That's life with acne.

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well, i said it before, and i'll say it again, this method worked for me, i dont know for sure if it works with all skin types, but im pretty sure it does. it worked for me right away, it worked, i dont know how many times i have to say it worked, but it did, so anyone that doesnt think it works, let me ask you something. did you try this method? cause i dont think you did, otherwise you would agree with me. and like i said before, everyone gets acne, everyone. they are hormones caused by a changing body, but the way to supress them is not by using chemicals, the chemicals just make it worst. and yes i realize that medicine is used alot everywhere and it is not always the cause of the problems. But in this case i really believe it is. its not that hard to figure it out, think about it, everyone on this site is using some sort of product, everyone is using something, if they were really meant to help they would, but they DONT. its as easy as that. acne products dont work, i could wish as hard as i can and they still dont work, so unless you are 100 percent positive that this method doesnt work, than please stop discouraging people that could have a clearer face. like i said before too, if you dont want to try it, dont, go ahead and keep using soaps, i dont care.

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because, i didnt figure this out just out of nowhere, i looked it up, and a doctor recomended this method, and yes i forgot the site but im going to try to look it up. people are so naive when it comes to this situation, if the product says "eliminate acne in 3 days" they'll buy it, it could even be a stick of butter and they still will put it on.

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NOTHING works for ALL skin types.

You should read some of LabGirl81's posts from the last couple of months. She quit all her topicals ... Retin A and BP ... some time back, and basically started just washing occasionally and that was it. And her skin has gone completely berserk. She did it to prove to her derm that she really needs Accutane, and it sounds to me like she's made her case.

And then there are the personal regimen logs that started out as "All Natural!" or "Nothing but Water!" and after a few months changed to "BP!" or "Differin!"

I do not doubt that some people's acne is caused by irritation and over-dehydration due to bombarding their faces with chemicals. But to say that your method will work for ALL skin types ... now that's truly naive.

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NOTHING works for ALL skin types.

You should read some of LabGirl81's posts from the last couple of months. She quit all her topicals ... Retin A and BP ... some time back, and basically started just washing occasionally and that was it. And her skin has gone completely berserk. She did it to prove to her derm that she really needs Accutane, and it sounds to me like she's made her case.

And then there are the personal regimen logs that started out as "All Natural!" or "Nothing but Water!" and after a few months changed to "BP!" or "Differin!"

I do not doubt that some people's acne is caused by irritation and over-dehydration due to bombarding their faces with chemicals. But to say that your method will work for ALL skin types ... now that's truly naive.

what did she was with?, is proactive and other stuff made for all skin types? i dont think so, so why do they recomend it for everyone? money. before chemicals everyone was left with only water, and they were fine.

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people with paler skin have to be very careful as the sun can cause havoc.

Unless you got acne all over your body, its probably to do with diet, it also depends on the age, mo2001 how old are u, if ur in your early 20's it might have ssomething to do with your age cause your hormones are in balance now

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NOTHING works for ALL skin types.

You should read some of LabGirl81's posts from the last couple of months. She quit all her topicals ... Retin A and BP ... some time back, and basically started just washing occasionally and that was it. And her skin has gone completely berserk. She did it to prove to her derm that she really needs Accutane, and it sounds to me like she's made her case.

And then there are the personal regimen logs that started out as "All Natural!" or "Nothing but Water!" and after a few months changed to "BP!" or "Differin!"

I do not doubt that some people's acne is caused by irritation and over-dehydration due to bombarding their faces with chemicals. But to say that your method will work for ALL skin types ... now that's truly naive.

Yup....I'm on a do-nothing regimen. I haven't washed my face in a few days (aside from water in the shower). At the start of my regimen last month I first grew thousands of tiny whitheads (as my skin reverted back to pre-retinoid status). I developed a few pustules and pauples then later some cysts. I came off the pill and right before my 1st real period in 4 years.....my acne went berzerk. Huge pustles and cysts. Acne on my back and chest too (pustular/cystic)......It was painful to wash and hard to sleep. After my period it healed up a bit. Current lesion count......thousands of whiteheads (plugged pores), about 4 ripe pustles.....two papules waithing to become pustlues and one huge motherfucking cyst on my jawline. Lesion formation rate....1 to 2 new inflamed lesions per day. It's been worse, but it's not pretty. Makeup hides all but the bumps (that cyst must go). I'm expecting my next peroid to make my face a battelfield once again......My chest is already forming the papules out of the whitheads for my breakout that will inevidably occur in about 2-3 weeks......my derm appointment is May 27th.....

Doing nothing sure doesn't work for everyone. Although I do not condone using irritating acne medicaions. Irritation leads to inflammation which can cause hyperkeratinization of corneocytes.....I do believe that acne usually requires some form of treatment.....

Since I've been washing only every other day or so, my skij does look helathier (aside from the inflammaory acne, serrobic dermatitis, and thousands of comedoes). I have no surface dehydration lines, and my skin seems to have a healthy glow (or is that sebum???). Anyway....my face is no longer red from the BP and I look a few years younger.........

mo2001.....Did you ever happen to think that maybe you just grew out of your acne???? It does happen.......

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also, ill keep going back to this, acne was not a problem a long time ago, its all these things to do with diet, lifestyle, sleep, alcohol thats causing a lot of the problems, at an early age people think they are adults and they are all grown up and their body can withstand staying up all night drinking their asses off, haha well it shows on your skin eventually, dont compare yourself to a 50 year old man drinking his ass off on the gutter, his body is well matured a long time ago.

There is no point in going to the doctor, because there is a good chance he wont even know much about acne, if your gonna see someone about acne you have to see a specialist, which is a derm. Then again derms these days care only about the money, a lot of them will want to keep making money off you so they arent gonna give you a quick fix.

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If the natural thing is working for you then great!!! Hooray for you!

I tried that no chemical thing for a while. It is just not for me!! I was getting the worst cysts ever along with horrible scars!! I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. I get in the bed early because I have morning classes. I even like to exercise!! But despite all this, I am still plagued with acne!!

I am now on a regimen that is making me feel better about myself. I use 2 topicals, birth control, and an antibiotic!

Yeah it's chemical.....But I truly believe that you have to find what works best for YOU

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well, i said it before, and i'll say it again, this method worked for me, i dont know for sure if it works with all skin types, but im pretty sure it does. it worked for me right away, it worked, i dont know how many times i have to say it worked, but it did, so anyone that doesnt think it works, let me ask you something. did you try this method? cause i dont think you did, otherwise you would agree with me. and like i said before, everyone gets acne, everyone. they are hormones caused by a changing body, but the way to supress them is not by using chemicals, the chemicals just make it worst. and yes i realize that medicine is used alot everywhere and it is not always the cause of the problems. But in this case i really believe it is. its not that hard to figure it out, think about it, everyone on this site is using some sort of product, everyone is using something, if they were really meant to help they would, but they DONT. its as easy as that. acne products dont work, i could wish as hard as i can and they still dont work, so unless you are 100 percent positive that this method doesnt work, than please stop discouraging people that could have a clearer face. like i said before too, if you dont want to try it, dont, go ahead and keep using soaps, i dont care.

well i didnt for me because thats all i did for one year befor i started using retin a now im useing tazaric and my face looks great.

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