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REALLY RED - Almost like scrapes

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I had dermabrasion 3 1/2 months ago, instead of healing the way most do... I developed problem areas. Near my jawline (both sides) are almost an 1-2 inch patches of really red, almost raw, scraped looking parts.

My dermatologist suggested various prescriptions, none which have worked. I've tried:

Cordran tape - Steroid tape

Atopiclair - eczema medication

Kelo-Cote - Silicon gel

Now, I'm really worried that it'll not only stay bloody red, but that it will develop hypertrophic scarring plus hypopigmentation, which often occurs when skin does not heal for a prolonged period of time.

Please advise anyone??

Thanks,

Hopefulskin

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Dermabraded skin is very sensitive, make up and sunscreen can further irritate them. Even now (9 months) my face has a slight burning sensation, and gets itchy and rash very easily.

Does your jawline just look raw but healed, or do you think you have non healing wounds?

Here is a link to the Wound Care center at St. Vincent Hospital in your area. Have them check you out.

Hang in there Hopeful, it is tough but you can get through this.

I am going to spot-test vBeam for redness reduction as soon as I can make an appointment, will keep you posted.

Take care,

Sword

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Sword,

Best wishes on your Vbeam appt and treatment...

Thanks so much for the link... very informative! To think I walked by that hospital countless times and didn't even know it was a wound care center! I went to New York University right near there.

I'll definitely contact them to hear what they have to say. I don't quite know what non healing wounds would look like. I mean, my redness looked really raw for months now, but only this week got a little less red. It's not an open wound, that's one good thing. Just as if something skidded over my lower cheek/jawline.

I'm really looking forward to meeting with someone at St. Vincents.

Thanks and I'll update.

-Hopefulskin

Dermabraded skin is very sensitive, make up and sunscreen can further irritate them. Even now (9 months) my face has a slight burning sensation, and gets itchy and rash very easily.

Does your jawline just look raw but healed, or do you think you have non healing wounds?

Here is a link to the Wound Care center at St. Vincent Hospital in your area. Have them check you out.

Hang in there Hopeful, it is tough but you can get through this.

I am going to spot-test vBeam for redness reduction as soon as I can make an appointment, will keep you posted.

Take care,

Sword

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Thanks Hopeful. I'm not sure if my jawline looks like yours, but they (mine) certainly look aweful.

My vBeam consultation is scheduled for tomorrow, the doctor is asian herself and experienced in treating Rosacea patients. I'll see if I can do a test patch or two. Will keep you posted.

Here is a story to cheer you up.

The story of Kogepan.

Sword

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Sword,

Very cute story... sad and uplifting at the same time!

By the way, what does your jawline look like? is it more reddish than the rest of your face? or lacking color? I recall you mentioned hypopigmentation... is that improving at all?

-Hopefulskin

Thanks Hopeful. I'm not sure if my jawline looks like yours, but they (mine) certainly look aweful.

My vBeam consultation is scheduled for tomorrow, the doctor is asian herself and experienced in treating Rosacea patients. I'll see if I can do a test patch or two. Will keep you posted.

Here is a story to cheer you up.

The story of Kogepan.

Sword

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There is a clear demarcation line on both sides along the jawline. Dermabraded skin is red and definitely much lighter than normal skin. If I am lucky, vBeam will help reduce the redness, then I'll have a better read on exactly how much pigmentation I lost from the dermabrasion. I'll probrably bleach my neck to match. That is my reaslistically best scenario. Worst scenario is the redness does not respond to vBeam, or get worse.

The story sums up how I feel after the dermabrasion, I can identify so much with this character!! I'm doing better, keeping in mind that dermabrasion damaged my appearance, not my personality and abilities.

How are you feeling?

Sword

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Sounds like you're taking matters into your own hands... or atleast in your aesthetician's hands :D

I'm glad that you can be so proactive Sword!

Please definitely update on how the vbeam treatments are going and how your test patches are handling the laser...

I was actually going to ask about the bleaching for the neck - what product are you thinking of using? is it an over the counter? I think that's the best idea really. I'm thinking of getting a few cosmetic products that contain bleaching agents and trying them out. I'll report back...

Oh, I tried calling St. Vincents... I can't seem to reach the main office, just a voicemail service. I'll try again.

-Hopefulskin

Hopeful,

Please see my update here.

Sword

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Hopeful,

By the look of their website, the St. Vincent wound unit seem to take patients without referral. Definitely try to talk to someone there.

My test patches still seem fine, no bruises or blister or scab. I think I am ok for my full face next week. Will keep you posted. How red are you still overall?

The laser doc says creams like triluma is effective for bleaching. I read that products containing Kojic acid can be effective too without the use of hydroquinone. In the summer though, it would be hard to avoid tanning the neck even with high SPF sunblock, probrably will have to find a sunless tanner to help blending.

Sword

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Hi Sword,

Great, best wishes on your full face vbeam next week... so excited for you!

I tried making an appointment with St. Vincent's. I want to use my insurance so I can just pay the co-pay, but they're running it through and still have not gotten back to me : ( I'll try again next week.

As for TriLuma, are you thinking of using that on your entire neck area? I feel a bit hesitant because my neck has no issues whatsoever and if i start using TriLuma, I wonder if it will do some harm. I mean, I have no blemishes on my neck, just the pigment in general (one tone) is darker than the face.

I may start with light cosmetic products that contain lightening ingredients, and work up from there??

-Hopeful

Hopeful,

By the look of their website, the St. Vincent wound unit seem to take patients without referral. Definitely try to talk to someone there.

My test patches still seem fine, no bruises or blister or scab. I think I am ok for my full face next week. Will keep you posted. How red are you still overall?

The laser doc says creams like triluma is effective for bleaching. I read that products containing Kojic acid can be effective too without the use of hydroquinone. In the summer though, it would be hard to avoid tanning the neck even with high SPF sunblock, probrably will have to find a sunless tanner to help blending.

Sword

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Hey Hopeful,

Thanks. I am not sure if it will work or not but it is worth trying at least once.

Those St. Vincent ppl does not sound very efficent. Keep me posted, I hope they can help you.

I think you are on the right track using a gentler product, its just that I haven't had the time to find one yet. For now I am just applying Triluma on non-dermabraded skin right at the jaw line, hoping to create a buffer zone and soften the dermarcation effect a bit. I just started so it may take a few weeks to see some difference.

Sword

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Hey Sword,

St. Vincent's finally checked with my insurance. It's likely that I won't have to pay for anything but the co-pay to see the wound care specialist. He's actually a plastic surgeon... I'm looking forward to what he has to say about my red "scraped" areas and whether they will likely form a hypertropic scar (PLEASE I HOPE NOT!!)

Anyhow, please keep me posted in regards to the Triluma cream. In the meantime, Happy Thanksgiving!

I'll definitely update after my visit to St. Vincent's.

Thanks,

-Hopeful

Hey Hopeful,

Thanks. I am not sure if it will work or not but it is worth trying at least once.

Those St. Vincent ppl does not sound very efficent. Keep me posted, I hope they can help you.

I think you are on the right track using a gentler product, its just that I haven't had the time to find one yet. For now I am just applying Triluma on non-dermabraded skin right at the jaw line, hoping to create a buffer zone and soften the dermarcation effect a bit. I just started so it may take a few weeks to see some difference.

Sword

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