Ferraj 0 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hi Everyvone!I am a 21years old Male from Hungary.There are the pictures of my scars below (if the pictures doesn't seen)http://www.kep.tar.hu/myscarsI took Accutane (in Hungary Roaccutan) for 8 Months with average dose about 1.5 years ago.The pustules and cysts go away, only blackheads remain.After finishing Accutane I went to an Erbium YAG Laser resurfacing.For me that was completely ineffectual. Unfortunately I don't see ANY changeafter the surgery. Anyway. In Hungary there are not so many scar treatments.I found this site and this great helpful forum a few days ago, and I decidedto ask for you to help me choose a great scar treatment for my problem.I don't know what kind of scars are these (perhaps rolling) and what would bethe best way for me.I think the biggest problem could be that I live in Hungary, but when it is necessary, and there is a realistic chance to "cover" my scars and change my life,I will go to anywhere abroad.So please help me about the treatments and the prices, and if it possible the method of treating foreign People Like me.Sorry my poor English Very thx to everything! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ylem 2 Share Posted October 23, 2005 I would kill for your skin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BadBoy20 0 Share Posted October 23, 2005 few indents, nothing too serious. Think he should think about a filler? Most likely can be done in your own country. I dont think dermabrasion or something else except exision is gonna plump that up.my advice is excision ( cutting away the scar ) or better to fill it with permanent filler.oh btw ur skin looks in great condition, wish mine was like that. Almost no redspots or brown marks! nice dude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ciccio76 0 Share Posted October 23, 2005 your skin looks not bad,is see only few scars,but some of them are very deep.I think a filler would be thebest for those scars,a peeling will not do so much i think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ferraj 0 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 Thanks for all!I read about excision but I think it isn't done in Hungary.Filling method is for example the injections? It gives only temporary results? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ciccio76 0 Share Posted October 23, 2005 that´s different from person to person,if you repeat the treatment(for example fat transfer),itcould be permanent after a while Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ferraj 0 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 that´s different from person to person,if you repeat the treatment(for example fat transfer),it could be permanent after a while I understand. Is this collagen injection? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mz43026 0 Share Posted October 23, 2005 You have a great skin complexion and tone. I dont see many scars so just take care of each one instead doing something to your entire face. Listen to them about filler. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jenya 0 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Unfortunately in Russia you can't trust or depend on what you are actually getting injected with. There is famous Russian TV anchor that had the injections which completely distorted her face. Obviously she has a lot of money and went to the best doctor and it still happened. She has traveled all over the world seeing the best specialist and no doctor even in the states is able to fix what was done. She had a biopsy taken which revealed a mixture of different filers, silicone and chemicals. Now she is informing people to really know and understand what is being put into your face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keithr23 0 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Your face looks pretty good guy. I would get the biggest scar cut out which I am pretty sure they could do anywhere. this would have to be smoothed over afterward to remove any scar or stitch marks from the excision. Normally u can just get microdermabrasion for this. Nothing major for you your skin looks good with just a little bit of character scarring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jenya 0 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I am not talking about the quality of the filler Pete but the integrity of the doctors. Unfortunately her experience was a very sad one.I agree with Pete about excision. If the subcutaneous fat layer is missing, cutting out the scar won't solve anything, there will still be a hollowness of the underlying layer and the skin will just sink in again. You have to fill it with something.But perhaps the damage is only to the dermis, it doesn't look that deep. If only there was a way to tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jenya 0 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Exactly my point, you never know what you are getting unless you are going to a reputable doctor.If you knew Russian doctors you would understand, but perhaps in every country most of them are only driven by money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agoff 0 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Does subcision not seem like the least invasive treatment to start with? Then fillers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ferraj 0 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Does subcision not seem like the least invasive treatment to start with? Then fillers? I'm not sure that subcision is made in Hungary. Collagen injections perhaps... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ylem 2 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Your cheek scars are identical to mine. I have been recommended dermabrasion with a wire brush by Yarborough here in the states. You may best check with him as many have traveled from afar to see him. He will probably reopen a clinic next year after the recovery from the hurricanes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ylem 2 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I think excision may work too, which i've never had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ferraj 0 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 To be quite Frank I don't know where should I start the searching at all. I looked for Filling and subcision on the Internet but I don't find something in Hungary. I don't know that who makes this treatments? A plastic surgery or a Dermatologist? I am completely puzzled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fighter05 0 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Ferraj, I know how you feel. Your scars are consuming your life drastically. But don't feel you are alone. And don't blame yourself for living in Hungary. I'm telling you , you are not missing anything!! You may think that your country is left behind in regards to "cosmetological procedures", but it's not true! You have to understand that certain countries are victims of " MEGA MARKETING" It's a heavy consumption society. And everyday, many multimillionaire companies in order to gain a market share launch so many products and in most of the cases these products are only bullshit!!!! I know money is essential, but unfortunately, that's the only force that drives many doctors. They don't care about you. They just want your money. I've learned that from personal experience. These doctors offer you a menu of so many procedures(products) which are crap and will not do anything for you. I'm sure that many acne-scar sufferers who have had access to many doctors, procedures,products have spent a lot of money, yet they haven't gotten any good results. One day i was surfing the net and care across a webpage (forgot its name) where they post pictures of actors, movie stars, singers, famous people with physical abnormalities or deffects such as birth marks, spots, acne scarring, etc. I saw pictures of Brat Pitt, James Olmos, Ricky Martin, Leonardo Di'caprio, etc, who have acne scars, some more severe than others and I wonder, why these "stars" who are super rich , and have access to the best professionals and procedures still have scars????? Most of them live in Hollywood which besides being the "movie meca" is the Plastic Surgeons meca too. I've heard that they charge you up to $ 1000 for a simple consultation because they are the Best of the Best !! So why these famous people still have visible scars???? It's hard to belive, but it's true. I still want to believe that there is a treatment for acne scarring, but again, it's not a matter of QUANTITY, but quality. Be happy that there are not many cosmetic procedures in your country. It will save you a lot of time,effort and money. Furthermore, you are not exposing yourself to side effects of some procedures which in most cases are worse than the origanl problem. In other words, it's better to feel sorry for not doing something than guilty for doing something stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lore 0 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Ferraj,Hello, Im new to this site and I wonder why you say that there are no good treatments in Hungary, it seems that your doctor did a good job with you, did you stop breaking up at all? Why did you stop seeing him?Im from Mexico and I started thinking about the doctor's thing as well. Oh, Im on roacutane and tomorrow I will visit the dermatologist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marce 0 Share Posted October 27, 2005 whats the difference between excision and punch float?cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ferraj 0 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 Ferraj, Hello, Im new to this site and I wonder why you say that there are no good treatments in Hungary, it seems that your doctor did a good job with you, did you stop breaking up at all? Why did you stop seeing him? Im from Mexico and I started thinking about the doctor's thing as well. Oh, Im on roacutane and tomorrow I will visit the dermatologist. Lore! I said, leastwise i thought there are no good SCAR treatments in Hungary. I was on ERBIUM YAG Laser treatment and it was completely ineffectual... Now, I'm thinkin' about workin' a year earn some money, and travel to UK or USA search a good doctor to treat my scars. I'm fed up with Doctors who experimenting with me. I tried every medication for my acne, and finally Accutane for 8 months. This cleared me totally, but after a 8 months finishing Accutane I also have 1 cystic acne by 3-4 month, so I started Accutane once again. Anyone can tell me what type of scares are mines? The majority said fillers wolud be the great result for my problem. Other opinion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ferraj 0 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 Hi!I'm on ISOTREX. Does anybody know, after I finish it, how many months should I wait before doing any scar treatments?Six months like on Accutane? Quote Link to post Share on other sites