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mikey161992

Male Hormonal Acne. HELP.. TRIED EVERYTHING

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So to start my story, 

I was completely acne clear until age 17. Went through various stages of trying out every different product including proactive, benz peroxide, various different prescription pills, vitamins, etc. This process of trial and error took around 3 years to where I gave up on all and decided to try accutane even though I knew the horrible side effects. My doctor reassured me after the third 8 month dose I was about to go on that this was the last one 100%. Of course after I was done, 4 months later I start getting what my doctor called "adult acne". 

So at the age of 24 I decided to go vegan to see if it would help(at this point my acne was not near as bad as in my early 20s) My acne dimmed down a decent amount put again I still was not acne free. Now at age 25 I have cut out all refined sugar, almost all grain (excluding oatmeal), all processed meat, and have been eating lots of veggies and fruits every day. I am taking two vitamin B50s a day, 250 mg of Niacin, 2000 mg of Vitamin C, 4000 UI of Vitamin D, 120 mg of Ginko Biloba, 1000mg of L-thenine, 1000mg of omega 3s, and two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar a day. I wash my face once in the morning with a facial cleanser and moisturize after and once at night(I've tried once a day and not at alll and it makes my acne worse). I've tried to narrow down what foods may be causing it but I simply cannot figure it out, one day bread wont do anything the next I think it may have been a sandwich I had. Also I am trying to gain weight throughout working out and eating around 3200 calories a day, so not being able to figure out what foods I can eat and what I cannot is effecting my results in the gym as well.

In an average day I eat,
Meal 1:1/2 cup of oatmeal with 2 tbs chia seeds, 2tbs hemp hearts, 3 tbs peanut butter, dash of honey, and a banana
Meal 2: Vegetable soup with 1/3 cup of pumpkin seeds
Meal 3: 20 almonds with an apple
Meal 4: Either a vegan dish or chicken potatoes and usually green  beans
Meal 5: Protein smoothie ( 250 mg of vanilla almond milk, 2 bananas, 2tbs almond butter, 1 scoop of vegan protein, 2 cups of baby spinach, and ice.
Meal 6: Usually vegan chili 

At this point I have no idea what I should do which is why I am reaching out for any type of information that I may have missed, sorry for the long post! Picture in the attachment (ignore my disgusting facial hair I forgot to shave :smileys_n_people_8:) Also this picture is taken on a good day acne wise.

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Androgens are the cause of acne.

Veganism, No Refined Sugar and Exercise all help control androgens slightly, which is why they produce improvement.

I would cut down to 3 meals a day and increase the vigour of your exercise.

These might produce further improvement but they wont cure it.

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As of right now I have absolutely no refined sugars and meat maybe twice a week tops. I do weight training three times a week as well. 

What would eating three times a day change? I would definitely be willing to try it but I would find it hard to get enough calories in I feel. 

Also so any other opinions are greatly appreciated ! 

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So you havn’t consumed pudding or sugary drinks for 4 months?

Has that improved your acne or has it stayed the same? 

 

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No I have not, I'll have alcoholic drinks on the weekend but I always have no sugar for mix and drink gin(lowest amount of sugar). Also don't really notice any difference when not having it, I've never really had much sugar even before. I drink 0 juice or pop and I've tried testing what food gives me the acne but it seems as if it's worse since I stopped eating breads, sugars, processed meats etc.

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Thanks for telling me that. Its very interesting. A lot of people push down our throats the “refined sugar is the cause of acne” mantra. But a lot of these people seem to have very questionable judgement (i.e. a certain famous acne youtuber took tane for over a year whilst giving up sugar and then seems to attribute his acne getting better to the diet interventions rather than the drug).

Have you lost weight on “no sugar”?

Have you noticed any health benefits from it (other than dental benefits)?

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Yeah, honestly I am sure for some people that refined sugar may cause it, I'm just not sure if that type of person is me. That YouTube comparison seems very flawed haha. 

I haven't lost any weight, as I am keeping my calorie levels at the same ( Just eating 1000x more good food to get the same cals and making 3 smoothies a day). Within health benefits, I pretty much feel good at all times so for me it hasn't felt as if its changed much. I would say since I started having the three smoothies a day about 10 days ago, my skin has gotten better, but I am still having pimples pop up every day or two. 

Will keep updating if the smoothie life helps at all lol. Also any other opinions are welcome and appreciated!

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Little update. I started taking Vitamin E 400 UI and Fish oil 2g of EPA/dHa per day. I also went to a music festival and couldn't wash my face for 4 days and surprising it cleared it up. So I figured maybe I would try not washing my face. One of those three combinations has cleared my acne up about 75%. When I came home I washed my face ( I also hadn't had fish oil or vitamin E in about 4 days) and I woke up with 6 new pimples. I am now eating whatever I want and haven't broken out super bad from it yet. The feelings of eating even just normal food feels amazing! :)

Am going to try washing my face with a cleanser eventually and see if that is what was breaking me out. Will update in weeks to come.

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The winter has come and I would say at this point the only thing that has actively helped my face is the sun. I have tried everything above. I also completely switched my diet over. I am now eating / taking:

 

Apple Cider Vinegar - 2x 1tbs daily

Turmeric pills - 2x 1000 mg daily

Probiotic- 10 billion IU daily  on an empty stomache

3L of water a day

One green tea a day

Juicing- Beet, celery, turmeric, ginger root, carrot, avocado, onion, garlic, radish.   on an empty stomache

I have a smoothie everyday consisting of 1 cup oats, 1 cup blueberries, 2 cups spinach, 8 oz unsweetened almond milk, 1/4 cup egg whites, chia seeds, half scoop pea protein, mixed berries

I eat absolutely 0 fast food, I never have white noodles or rice or potatoes. I have 0 refined sugar, 0 snack foods, only drink water.

For lunch I usually have a healthy soup with maybe one slice of whole wheat bread

Most dinners I will have sweet potatoes with chicken and brown rice, or something of this variations.

I will also eat omelets, vegan chili, spaghetti with gluten free noodles, variation of either beef, pork, chicken with rice and veggies as other meals.

 

If anyone has anymore advice, I would love to hear it. At this point I feel as if I have tried almost everything. Also I am not willing to take any antibiotics as I've already been through them for years and they did nothing.

 

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I was thinking one day, I have cut absolutely everything out to the point where I was only having smoothies 3 times a day and was breaking out worse then ever. I then realized the one thing I never completely cut out was fruits( although I cut out the high sugar ones like bananas). So I tried cutting them out and my acne disappeared in a week. I have one new pimple on my face and I think that it was caused from taking a b12 pill yesterday. Other then that my face has completely started to clear up :) 

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