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Right that's a good theory and probobly partially true but then that wouldn't explain the relathionship between hormones and acne. As in too much testestorone causes it or why it would usually subside once someone gets older.

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thought about it for a while and it actually wouldnt explain the acne on my back.i never use anything on my back.

i think i may be clearing mainly because of a drop in the humidity levels.with a partial credit to the do nothing regimen. bacteria thrive in high heat and humidity. anyone in the northern usa/canada experiancing clearer skin these days?

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If you sleep in a cold room I think it reduces the number of pimples that form by the time you wake up(at least from my experience).

Anyway, I think this theory has something to it. You never know if applying those soaps etc. are hurting or helping.

One thing I remember from high school is, a lot of people who I would say had poor hygiene(they didn't brush or shower for weeks) didn't have any skin problems it seemed. It was almost always the clean person who had skin problems.

It's probably more "natural" to just wash your face off with water, rather than soaps etc. I'm sure one of the 20-30 chemicals in various washes is going to just get absorbed into the skin and cause more problems down the road (like shampoo http://www.newstarget.com/003210.html.

Anyway, I'm going to stay away from all that shit as it probably just kills you long term. You never know what the medical/pharmaceutical industries agenda is (seems like they want to get / keep people sick so they can treat them magically with wonder-drugs). Going to give up shampoo too imo

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You know what? Now that I think more about it I think this is bs.

Why? Because I wash my forehead the most, sometimes using a pad on just my forhead between washing it. (so a total of 3 times a day) and I haven't seen a zit on my forehead in a really long time. It's pretty much clear. But I do get some under my chin and jaw line, where I never really wash with any topicals.

Explain that in relation to this "do nothing" regime.

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You know what? Now that I think more about it I think this is bs.

Why? Because I wash my forehead the most, sometimes using a pad on just my forhead between washing it. (so a total of 3 times a day) and I haven't seen a zit on my forehead in a really long time. It's pretty much clear. But I do get some under my chin and jaw line, where I never really wash with any topicals.

Explain that in relation to this "do nothing" regime.

the way i understand it, its the topicals that are doing the most upsetting of the skin flora not the fact you are washing with regular soap, unless its antibacterial. i would suspect a mild facial cleanser would be ideal.

another thing to consider is the fact p.acnes lives in a sebum rich environment, maybe the flora on your forehead is different then that of your chin.

now that i think of it sebaceous glands exist all over your body, if acnes is supposed to be mainly because of sebum then why wouldnt you have it all over your body?

acne never makes sense to me.

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You know what? Now that I think more about it I think this is bs.

Why? Because I wash my forehead the most, sometimes using a pad on just my forhead between washing it. (so a total of 3 times a day) and I haven't seen a zit on my forehead in a really long time. It's pretty much clear. But I do get some under my chin and jaw line, where I never really wash with any topicals.

Explain that in relation to this "do nothing" regime.

the way i understand it, its the topicals that are doing the most upsetting of the skin flora not the fact you are washing with regular soap, unless its antibacterial. i would suspect a mild facial cleanser would be ideal.

another thing to consider is the fact p.acnes lives in a sebum rich environment, maybe the flora on your forehead is different then that of your chin.

now that i think of it sebaceous glands exist all over your body, if acnes is supposed to be mainly because of sebum then why wouldnt you have it all over your body?

acne never makes sense to me.

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Well I'm sold. THis experiment makes sense (at least enough to try) and plus it's cheap! Plus thinking about the 2 people I know with the absolute clearest skin, one is a guy and the other a girl, they both have one thing in common and that is they don't shower everyday.

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bringing this thread back from the dead...because it's a pretty good one. I tried doing this a couple of weeks ago and my skin is steadily improving. Anybody have any experience with shaving while on a water only regimen? If so, what do you use? I tried using a gillette mach 3 but it tears my face up so i'm buying an electric panasonic one for quite a bit of money, is there an easier/better way?

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I've been using nothing but water for like half a year now...initially for like the first week you see that your face gets really dry (but this is me, 1 quik shower in the morning and a long one at night)...after the first week, you see that your face looks very healthy...you get less acne and you dont waste all that time moisturizing. At this point my face is really clear, just some scarring and some pimples rarely.

If ppl are like me (oily skin, big pores), this method helps a whole lot. I even devised a plan to rinse my face every 6 hours, if I dont..I just know that I get a pimple or 2. However, this just means splashing water on my face and drying with a towel.

Currently this is my routine:

- Eat Healthy

- Luke warm water to take away oil, cold water to shut pores

Morning: splash face with water and dry with towel, wash hair

Mid-day: splash water on face and dry

Night: Shower, shaving every 3 days in the shower after pores are open from hot water

Since I've had acne for like 6 years now (started in grade 9)...I've set a goal for perfection, ppl say my skin is clear but for ppl who had acne for a long time...they are very judgemental of themselves. I still have acne but my skin is like 80% cured because of eating healthy and washing my face only with water. From now on Im gonna try and wash my face less and less to see if this experiment is truly successful. But if ppl are in the diet portion of this board...I suggest stopping whatever your applying topically...ur diet is enuf to allow u to only use water and still get great skin.

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It's been working for me for a couple weeks now...the skin around my nose is kind of flakey but I attribute that to using a razor with just cold water. My forehead isn't dry or really oily at all, as of right now I'm waiting for a couple bumps to go away.

does this really work?

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lol, i tried this after a fail attempt with home remedies when i was 15.my acne just got severe. curiously enough, my face got better with proactiv.lol!!!but i had to give up on that eventually cause it stopped working.

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I went with this idea a while back kinda, but doing the dip thing (dip face in hot water for 60+ seconds morning and night), but using a cleanser in morning and nothing else and it has made a difference to the oil on my face and acne. Althought what I've noticed is my face gets oilier whenever I put hair styling products in my hair and when i'm out - even more at school its so annoying. Anyone else find this?

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Anyone else think that there's something to the skin getting used to something? Like, perhaps acne bacteria adjust to different pH levels or something...so whenever you change the climate of the skin, they tend to die out at first. Once they adjust/evolve/whatever you want to call it, the acne returns.

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No i don't believe this to be true. I'm not sure the connection with the original topic butif you are interested i can say that stop washing my face helped my condition. It didn't clear it but it helped in a way so definite to myself that i haven't washed my face in almost 3 months.

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No i don't believe this to be true. I'm not sure the connection with the original topic butif you are interested i can say that stop washing my face helped my condition. It didn't clear it but it helped in a way so definite to myself that i haven't washed my face in almost 3 months.

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Okay this is really weird for me too, because I was just having the same thoughts!!! So my answer is the one no girl wants to hear.... don't wear makeup. ESPECIALLY because makeup is filled with a bunch of shit that makes you break out. Start researching your so called "noncomedogenic" products' ingredients on google (I type in, for example "Cetereth 20 comedogenic" or "Cetereth 20 skin"). anyways these bad ingredients are in like, everything made to treat acne. Or so it seems.

Anyways it sucks to go without foundation but my feeling is, what is looking like shit for a few days or weeks if your skin could be good enough to not need makeup after that?

I mean, come on now. I've just been wearing mascara and carefully removing it and true, my skin looks like shit now.... but it needs to have a second to heal!

Oh and your idea about washing only once a day is better than nothing, but I bet your skin would look even better if you did nothing to it. But who knows!!!

Hi AlexAlmighty...

I just came across your little experiment...and this is such a coincidence..!!!

YOU ARE RIGHT ON...!!!

I have been busy painting my house..I usually wear make-up...but since I was painting I didnt ....I got up and washed my face in the morning and by noon my face felt like it was dripping with oil....Eeeew!

By 11pm I was tired..and went to sleep without washing my face again..(I usually wash it 3 times a day..so this was kinda gross for me..but i thought what the hell ..I am just going to get up and paint again anyways...whos lookin..LOL) :unsure:

Day 2...I got up, surprisingly, my face was not really that oily...so I went back to working ...by PM my skin looked like it had a more "even" color...

and it wasnt oily!!! :o

Day 3 ...The few breakouts that I had are gone!!! Red spots gone!!!

and the oil has diminished about 75%!!! No new breakouts!!!

I couldnt believe it!!! :o

I thought that this was really strange...how could this be???

Until I read your posts....I am not alone...and I now I know I am not crazy!!! LOL

Today.. I DID wash with soap in the shower...I put my make-up on

and my skin looks better than it ever did....WOW!!! :dance:

I am just wondering how I can wear make-up and do this to..??

I HAVE to wash it off...maybe if I cut my washing with soap to only once a day..

I guess that would be better then 3 times a day...

I think I just answered my own question...duh..LOL

Any suggestions for us girls who wear make-up.....?

and I hope it is not "dont wear any"...LOL :P

:) Thank you ..!!! Vanessa

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That was, seriously.... beautiful.

You are right. No one seems to notice or care about my skin as much as I do. Not even close. Why let it dictate my life?

STUPID. I'm just going to focus on being happy and healthy!!! :) Thanks soo much for inspiration.

Hello, long time lurker (almost a year now), first time poster :unsure:

This is going to be long and drawn out, but I have had considerable success with a method close to this and don't think people should be so quick to discount it--but would also like to say that it probably is not for everyone.

A little (or a lot of) history:

I am a 24 year old female who had fairly clear skin up until a year ago; I would get a whitehead here or there and would worry about it if I had enough time on my hands, but would usually forget about it once I left the house. I usually had a tube of BP around the house but my life didn't revolve around my condition.

Out of nowhere, seemingly, I came down with two gigantic cysts right next to my nose. They were huge and hurt quite badly, and I had never had a cyst before so to me this seemed like severe acne (looking back now this is laughable). So I piled on some standard 10% BP cream but they weren't going away as fast as I wanted them to (christmas break was coming up and I didn't want those things on my face for family photos) so I did an internet search and found this site.

People seemed to have great success with the SA and BP wash regimen, I started on that--but this was a big mistake for me (here's a tip for some: Don't use medication on areas where you don't have pre-existing acne :P ). The duo irritated my skin VERY badly and I ended up getting cysts on my cheeks--a place where I had never broken out prior (whenever I had gotten any zits, they were usually in my T zone or somewhere along my hairline). Needless to say I was devistated: I went from having a couple of cysts next to my nose to having about 10 to 15 on each side of my face. From there it turned into a downward spiral--I was very impatient and would switch regimens on a weekly basis, overwash my skin, and obsessed about my condition almost 24/7. This obviously did nothing but hurt the situation, and at the time it seemed that BP would cause more cysts (or irritate my larger zits into becoming cysts...is that even possible? That's what it seemed like was happening) but keep the whiteheads away and SA would not prevent whiteheads but also wouldn't promote cystic acne.

After about a half a year of this, I finally got fed up--somewhat due to financial reasons as well. I stopped frequenting this message board on a daily basis (I still come back though from time to time and check out the forum though--especially the one for red marks :lol: ) and started doing absolutely nothing (I'll go into the details of what "nothing" consists of below). Over time the cystic acne went away (I think that's the only real non-prescribed thing you can do with a cyst, is wait for it to go away) and the larger zits and whiteheads subsided as well.

Something I would like to stress:

I do not believe that I am predispositioned (for you geneology fans) to severe acne--much less severe cystic acne--, but I believe that this state was due to overwashing and overtreating.

My basic "regimen" (if you can even call it that) is washing my face with water once a day; at night. I don't touch it at all, just run it under the showerhead (cold water, unless it's cold out in which case that's just too painful and I'll use tepid water instead. Yeah I'm weak, I know).

I have been doing this for about 3 months, and have seen a dramatic improvement, meaning: NO cystic acne whatsoever and an occasional very small whitehead a couple times a week or so that leaves very quickly (2 days max) so long as I don't screw with it. For the most part, these are very small; look more like white blackheads if that makes any sense but it seems that around "that time of the month" a larger one might come up.

I still have quite a few redmarks on the sides of my face (these seem to take a longer time to heal for me) but quite frankly, after what my face looked like almost a year ago I really don't care at most times. If I'm having an "insecure day" (hey, I'm human and it happens) I'll just use a very light powder that doesn't conceal so much as it does fade the redmarks. I never used to wear makeup before my breakout and even during my breakout and when I started to, I did it was never heavy--I can't stand the feeling of all that stuff on my face. Days I wear makeup I use just regular soap (I hear this is horrible for your skin--but it really don't seem to bother mine but I guess I would reccomend using whatever non-medicated cleanser you're using now?)

I have to say that I sincerely believe my complexion now is better than before my breakout, when I would use various facewashes (st ives apricot scrub was a big fave of mine) and now that I just ignore any zit I get it instead of popping or picking at it the redmark that remains leaves within two weeks.

I'm a little miffed about the handful of icepick scars that the cystic acne on my cheeks left, but even those seem to be improving over time (although I, mostly from reading the boards, doubt they'll fill in entirely)--but overall my complexion looks a whole lot better w/o any topicals--BP especially.

I'm well aware that this solution will not be right for everyone, and if you have a regimen that works then by all means stay with it. But to the nay sayers, I ask that you don't nay even though it does not work for you. Everyone's skin is different and will react different to all of the methods (including this one) as can easily be seen from reading this board. If there was a 1 solution fits all way for treating acne then it would hardly be a problem. My personal belief is that perhaps this method can make some people's moderate acne mild, and other's mild acne non-existant; that maybe by freaking out over the few spots you have you're doomed to get more...?

I KNOW I JUST WROTE A NOVEL...but I would like to close on some humble advice (and this goes for everyone, regardless of their regimen).

Even when my acne was at its worse (my brother, totally innocently I might add, asked me if I had come down with chicken pox :P ) I never missed a day of school, or let it prevent me from getting at least my errands done (admitidly though, if I didn't have to leave the house I most certainly would have prefered not to--almost no one is immune from self-pity me thinks) If you look people in the eye, have a good sense of humor, and demand respect they will have no choice but to respect you; otherwise they're just jerks :angry:

and we don't care about jerks now do we ? :)

Don't let temporary marks permanantly wreck you life--I know how hard that can but just...just stay away from mirrors and try to be focused on whatever it is you do during the day. If you need to stay in and feel sorry for yourself every once in awhile then hey, do just that, but I see people on here that are dropping out of school etc...and that's really depressing. Stick with it guys.

Good luck to everyone, I'll pop in and out every once in awhile when I'm doing my internet rounds if anyone replies/questions to this (or even reads it :P ) but quite frankly I enjoy my lurking status. However I sort of felt like it was my duty to speak up in this thread just in case it might help...someone at least.

My skin is not 100% perfect, i still get an occasional white head here and there, but it's 99% (if you don't count the redmarks) and I would like to stress THAT NO ONE, MUCH LESS MYSELF, CARES ABOUT A HARDLY NOTICABLE WHITEHEAD G'night everyone (and sorry for any spelling/grammar errors, it's getting late and I don't feel like running this through a spell check. I'm lazy and just sort of spit this out before heading to bed )

(edited for a sentence that didn't even make any sense...I had to read it over. OMG i'm through now I swear!!)

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You guys are talking about stuff you obviously didn't really research. Moisturizer does not penetrate the skin, actually, most products don't, with the exception of prescriptions and BP and cortizone. If you have dry skin and layer moisturizer on top of it, you will not have moisturized skin. You will have dry skin with a layer of chemicals and silicones sitting on top, making it feel and appear more moisturized. The only way to have your skin be truely moisturized is to do it internally (I.E. drinking lots of water, eating fruits and veggies, etc.) and to allow your skin to balance out and produce sebum as it would. go research it.... and not from little websites that are trying to sell you something.

You're making a big error with cause and effect.  I only had dryness when I didn't moisturize with bp.  I did have bad peeling, ALL OF THE TIME on bp.  When I went off of bp, the peeling continued, but that was just the lingering effects of bp.  After a couple weeks not putting anything on my face, guess what?  No more peeling.  My face is feeling better, the initial bad breakout is going away, and the oiliness is subsiding. 

My question for you, is who do you think knows my skin better?  You, who have never even seen me, or myself?  Keep in mind I've been working with my skin for several years here.  Think about it and get back to me.

If you peeled you didn't moisturise enough. Did you use 2.5% BP?

Why so defensive about your face? You should be ready to accept criticism if you post in the Research part of the board.

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I knew it wasnt bad food,masturbation or genes cause my bro is fucking fat and i know why he locks himself in his room everynight (and he is clear)!

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Alex,

how did u shave with cold water, this seems like the hardest part. i've been trying not washing for the past few days and my skin already looks better. i've been using a cetaphil bar and bp on my face pretty constantly now for 2 years and i think both of those are just keeping my face fuckd up. shaving is the hardest part cus that seems to really dry my face out. how can i shave and not dry it out? use cold water? apply something after?

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