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Stem Cells for Acne Scar Repair (SCIENCE FACT, not science fiction!)

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I,m so pleased i,ve found this forum. I have already contacted the stem cell clinic in Kiev and they said their treatment would help my facial scarring but i,m still sceptical I,ll give you some history of my condition and treatments for acne scarring. I went through co2 laser treatment in 2002 it smoothed some scarring but as you all know did,nt erase them. I then underwent an exoderm peel in 2006 ( the worst decision of my life) apparantly the peel start seeping into my open pores widening them and while i was sedated the dr decided to try and erase them by performing dermabrasion with devastating results. My pores looked huge, burnt with a lot of hard scar tissue around them and my skin is almost transparent not to mention ghostly white. I then had to go through laser treatment again to try to soften the scar tissue but the dr could,nt go to deep for fear of further scarring but it did leave me with laser scars as the skin is tissue thin and my cells are damaged. I then went through 7 dermaroller treatments which have softened the scars slightly. I now have no self confidence at all and no amount of make up hides my flaws. I am so desperate and self concious about my skin i am thinking of selling my house to pay for stem cell treatment as i need my life back.Why won,t BRD help if he has the answer, does he realise what this means to the likes of us

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I,m so pleased i,ve found this forum. I have already contacted the stem cell clinic in Kiev and they said their treatment would help my facial scarring but i,m still sceptical I,ll give you some history of my condition and treatments for acne scarring. I went through co2 laser treatment in 2002 it smoothed some scarring but as you all know did,nt erase them. I then underwent an exoderm peel in 2006 ( the worst decision of my life) apparantly the peel start seeping into my open pores widening them and while i was sedated the dr decided to try and erase them by performing dermabrasion with devastating results. My pores looked huge, burnt with a lot of hard scar tissue around them and my skin is almost transparent not to mention ghostly white. I then had to go through laser treatment again to try to soften the scar tissue but the dr could,nt go to deep for fear of further scarring but it did leave me with laser scars as the skin is tissue thin and my cells are damaged. I then went through 7 dermaroller treatments which have softened the scars slightly. I now have no self confidence at all and no amount of make up hides my flaws. I am so desperate and self concious about my skin i am thinking of selling my house to pay for stem cell treatment as i need my life back.Why won,t BRD help if he has the answer, does he realise what this means to the likes of us

sounds like you did a lot of stuff, hope you get the treatment you need, best of luck.

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I am so desperate and self concious about my skin i am thinking of selling my house to pay for stem cell treatment as i need my life back.Why won,t BRD help if he has the answer, does he realise what this means to the likes of us

Wishful thinker,we are all thinking of the same thing....why BRD wont treat us.He has the answer to our problems.

$12K for the stem cell treatment in Beijing?Haggle Haggle!!!!

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happy melon do u know much about the treatment in beijing? i would love to be able to speak with BRD he has so much to offer. I know if i had a cure I,d give it to everyone on here!

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Btw, I haven't found the time to call the Belgian researcher's co-worker yet. I might call him tomorrow but if I end up being too busy, it'll have to wait until next week.

As you may have guessed; I haven't found the time. So it'll have to wait until next week. By the looks of things, I'll call them next Wednesday.

Well, I haven't been able to call this week, either. lol I've just been too busy. Here's hoping I'll find the time in the upcoming week. ;)

I wouldn't expect too much, though. I'm just going to ask him a few general questions.

Take care, everybody! :)

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happy melon do u know much about the treatment in beijing? i would love to be able to speak with BRD he has so much to offer. I know if i had a cure I,d give it to everyone on here!

Maybe BRD doesnt have much to offer.I believe BRD means well but have u guys ever wondered beyond his reason that he doesnt want to be seen as soliciting business online.........that he doesnt quite have the answer to your problem yet?If his treatments were really the solution everyone is seeking,then we should be hearing about it by now.We should be seeing patients with excellent results.We have members from all around the world digging up infos from every corners.Photos.reports and study cases should be out there.

I personally think his reason to not treat members here is too rigid.How much longer does he want us to wait?Or does he expect us to run into him by luck/fate?I mean how else could we get the proper treatments since nobody else seems to be offering anything similar or better than BRDs method.No offence here,I'm just speaking out because it simply doesnt make sense.

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no disrespect to BRD as the information he has provided is excellent but I personally feel he,s dangling a carrot!! Its agognising knowing there is a treatment out there and that he is not prepared to treat us. WHY BRD?

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no disrespect to BRD as the information he has provided is excellent but I personally feel he,s dangling a carrot!! Its agognising knowing there is a treatment out there and that he is not prepared to treat us. WHY BRD?

yea i'd like to know to

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@ pink lawyer, wishful thinker and v_singh,

Ask yourselves one simple question... Do you prefer to have me around on acne.org to give you and everyone else access to cutting edge info or would you have preferred that I not come here to share that info in the first place?

I am sharing knowledge with everyone that had I patented could otherwise turn into a personal cash cow. Instead, I've decided to offer my expertise/ideas/discoveries free of charge without taking credit for them as anything more than an enigmatic member of this forum. I need not explain my reasons for making it so, however I doubt it is difficult to understand that what I've done is for your own good and it is in my analysis the best way that I can change the medical landscape in regard to the treatment of acne scarring. By not sharing my personal info, not only have I shown that I am not interested in financial gains and therefore have neutralized potential conflicts of interest, but I've also stimulated many a member to go to their doctors and tell them what I stated herein.

Now let's explore the alternative. If I simply gave everyone here my address, many will not make the effort to go to doctors in their part of the world and ask them if they are interested in exploring my methodologies. Rather they will simply buy airline tickets, book their hotels and pay me a fee to get what can conservatively be called a lengthy and complex treatment. Unfortunately only the wealthier amongst you will be able to do this, while those who do not have relatively fat wallets will be left sulking in a psychological twilight without the hope that what I do may through a collective effort be soon made available as a viable treatment option in their respective communities/countries.

So what I've done and the way in which I have done it, has a point and an intended effect. That goal is to get the word out as efficiently as possible by using your communal manpower, emotions, intelligence and determination to disseminate knowledge to those who can apply it. Some people have already gone to various physicians to share with them what they have learned here and therefore changes are already afoot. In fact there are currently a few doctors applying some of the knowledge and methodologies I've shared with you. The Aoluosi Clinic in China has established email correspondence with me in their attempt to learn more about how I treat patients. I've also been told that Dr. Khan in England has begun to use some of my techniques. More power to them all!

So think carefully about the unjust dynamic created with your comments. You are attempting to put me in a difficult position by making me feel guilty for doing what I think is collectively the best option for all acne scar sufferers and not just for the individuals who have the money, the time or the visa waivers to come and visit me. So this "carrot" that I'm dangling in front of you can either be used to feed progress that impacts everyone who shares your pain or it can be thrown away because in this unique case you're not happy that I don't act like some other doctors who will walk the road to hell just to get their name out, whilst vying for the opportunity to reach into your bank account and promise you eternal bliss. This is a "one for all and all for one fight", not one for one...

Contrary to what you may be thinking at this point, I am not at all upset with you. Actually, I know you are in a lot of pain. I sympathize, empathize and truly do want you to live a life free of the terrors that scars have brought unto your daily existence. That is why I will continue coming here to offer you my support whomever and wherever you are. To me you are all equals, and that is why you will all receive the same homogeneous service from the inconspicuous BRD. In other words, all acne scar sufferers deserve no less than equal access to me. No one will be favoured regardless of how much money they offer me, no one will be punished for disagreeing with my way of doing things and no one will be left out simply because they do not have the resources to even consider seeking me out in the first place. Thus this relationship will continue to be communal and it will thus remain a virtual one.

The virtual pen is mightier than the doctor's needle. Together we can make the change come faster for all.

I wish you the best...

PS: I will answer the questions posted by other forum members in the next three days.

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Hi BRD

It's nice to know you understand, sometimes members are impatient

to find a good treatment for our scars and in no way trying to offend you.

After reading your reasons, it shows you have a lot of integrity !

Have you ever thought if you got the publicity for your techniques, other

dermatologists will jump on the band wagon faster.

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Hi BRD,

I'm trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full, Is it possible you send me a PM and I reply to it? Does that override the inbox full thing?

thanks

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Hey BRD thanks for the reply i now understand why you choose to not treat members of the forum. Thinking abou what you said, my aunt is a dermatologist, she works at hammersmith hospital with Dr Chu who alot of memebrs already know. At the moment the only treatment she does for acne scars is dermaroller but thats becuase thats what Dr Chu does. Im going to try have a chat with her and tell her about your methods and mabey she could tell Dr Chu who could also look into it. mabey they will start using this stem cell treatment in their private practices. im trying to gather as much info from the thread and from websites about the use of stem cells for treating acne scars and the methods used. it would be great if we could come up with a complete information pack that has everything doctors/dermatologists need to know about this type of treatment.

also i posted a question on the previous page, if you could answer it would be much appreciated.

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Sorry if i offended u BRD I really did,nt mean to I think I understand your reasoning now, I just wish other derms would listen! Suppose i,m just fed up cos i was lied to and ended up disfigured because of one certain doctor. I feel like a rabbit caught in headlights so to speak. Scared of looking like this for the rest of my life. Please keep giving us information you are really an inspiration to us all.Like everyone on here we just want a cure!

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@ pink lawyer, wishful thinker and v_singh,

Ask yourselves one simple question... Do you prefer to have me around on acne.org to give you and everyone else access to cutting edge info or would you have preferred that I not come here to share that info in the first place?

I am sharing knowledge with everyone that had I patented could otherwise turn into a personal cash cow. Instead, I've decided to offer my expertise/ideas/discoveries free of charge without taking credit for them as anything more than an enigmatic member of this forum. I need not explain my reasons for making it so, however I doubt it is difficult to understand that what I've done is for your own good and it is in my analysis the best way that I can change the medical landscape in regard to the treatment of acne scarring. By not sharing my personal info, not only have I shown that I am not interested in financial gains and therefore have neutralized potential conflicts of interest, but I've also stimulated many a member to go to their doctors and tell them what I stated herein.

Now let's explore the alternative. If I simply gave everyone here my address, many will not make the effort to go to doctors in their part of the world and ask them if they are interested in exploring my methodologies. Rather they will simply buy airline tickets, book their hotels and pay me a fee to get what can conservatively be called a lengthy and complex treatment. Unfortunately only the wealthier amongst you will be able to do this, while those who do not have relatively fat wallets will be left sulking in a psychological twilight without the hope that what I do may through a collective effort be soon made available as a viable treatment option in their respective communities/countries.

So what I've done and the way in which I have done it, has a point and an intended effect. That goal is to get the word out as efficiently as possible by using your communal manpower, emotions, intelligence and determination to disseminate knowledge to those who can apply it. Some people have already gone to various physicians to share with them what they have learned here and therefore changes are already afoot. In fact there are currently a few doctors applying some of the knowledge and methodologies I've shared with you. The Aoluosi Clinic in China has established email correspondence with me in their attempt to learn more about how I treat patients. I've also been told that Dr. Khan in England has begun to use some of my techniques. More power to them all!

So think carefully about the unjust dynamic created with your comments. You are attempting to put me in a difficult position by making me feel guilty for doing what I think is collectively the best option for all acne scar sufferers and not just for the individuals who have the money, the time or the visa waivers to come and visit me. So this "carrot" that I'm dangling in front of you can either be used to feed progress that impacts everyone who shares your pain or it can be thrown away because in this unique case you're not happy that I don't act like some other doctors who will walk the road to hell just to get their name out, whilst vying for the opportunity to reach into your bank account and promise you eternal bliss. This is a "one for all and all for one fight", not one for one...

Contrary to what you may be thinking at this point, I am not at all upset with you. Actually, I know you are in a lot of pain. I sympathize, empathize and truly do want you to live a life free of the terrors that scars have brought unto your daily existence. That is why I will continue coming here to offer you my support whomever and wherever you are. To me you are all equals, and that is why you will all receive the same homogeneous service from the inconspicuous BRD. In other words, all acne scar sufferers deserve no less than equal access to me. No one will be favoured regardless of how much money they offer me, no one will be punished for disagreeing with my way of doing things and no one will be left out simply because they do not have the resources to even consider seeking me out in the first place. Thus this relationship will continue to be communal and it will thus remain a virtual one.

The virtual pen is mightier than the doctor's needle. Together we can make the change come faster for all.

I wish you the best...

PS: I will answer the questions posted by other forum members in the next three days.

BRD,

When was the last time you were in contact with the Aoluosi clinic? Have they discussed with you about how they are investigating using GF's from umbilical cords?

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Hi BRD

It's nice to know you understand, sometimes members are impatient

to find a good treatment for our scars and in no way trying to offend you.

After reading your reasons, it shows you have a lot of integrity !

Have you ever thought if you got the publicity for your techniques, other

dermatologists will jump on the band wagon faster.

Hi aplaceinthesun,

I think we've gotten over a few important hurdles already. The fact that a few doctors are open minded and willing to step outside their comfort zone in order to investigate, experiment and utilize something new is a positive sign. The internet is a powerful tool to reach your colleagues, patients, researchers, etc in order to combine various facets of experience, expertise, perspectives, etc into a synergistic amalgamation of knowledge that can help accelerate regenerative medicine. When we have a critical mass of physicians using these types of procedures it will cause a kind of chain reaction that will envelope the rest of the MD populace. As more dermatologists and plastic surgeons apply these methodologies, others will have to incorporate them into their practices in order to continue to successfully compete for clientele. After all, these techniques can also be used for wrinkle reduction, so there are certainly large profits to be had. We're not talking about a specialized product for a niche market, but rather a kind of holistic service that can be used for various cosmetic procedures. Remember, incentive (cost/return) is the driving force of progress.

Inevitably we shall see a lot of private firms pop up with related support products (automated machines [ie: Cytori] and a host of other technologies) that will make such services even more advanced, accessible, predictable and truly life changing. I expect to see tremendous progress in the next 5 years.

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Hi BRD,

I'm trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full, Is it possible you send me a PM and I reply to it? Does that override the inbox full thing?

thanks

I prefer to keep messages public so that other people can learn from your experience. Is that OK with you?

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for BRD - i sent tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full. here is the messege

Hi BRD, i know your a really busy person and you get alot of messages but i was wondering if you could help me out with a problem with my skin. i have large pores all over my nose and inner cheeks. These bother me A LOT more then the scars i have becuase they look like perfectly round icepick scars. (im not bothered about the acutall scars i have as they are not deep at all) the pores on my nose get clogged up with the whiteish solid round clump (not sure what it is) that can be rubbed off the skin but they come back within just a few days. these come out from the pores on my nose and i can tell that they are making my pores large due to the clumps stretching the pores (the clumps look like large grains of salt).

Is there anything that you recommend that can effectly treat large pores ?

they are causing a huge problem in my social life (not that i even have one anymore) and i really want them gone.

Thanks

V

Have you tried LED therapy? Some of my patients have reported smaller pore size as a result of daily photobiomodulation. The positive effects are likely a result of photochemical mechanisms that seem to change cell membrane permeability and at proper dose upregulate ATP (cellular energy levels)... It also reduces inflammation and there is evidence that it helps keep collagen intact over longer periods of time. I think there's a lot more to it than this, but as of now a lot of the benefits that come of LLLT/LED therapy remain a mystery. More researchers are getting involved with investigating photobiostimulation/photobioinhibition so over the next few years we shall know a lot more about it.

I usually tell people to go for light doses of 4J/cm2... Lamarr1986 has an entire thread about this and I am very supportive of his efforts to get the word out about this type of treatment protocol.

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Sorry if i offended u BRD I really did,nt mean to I think I understand your reasoning now, I just wish other derms would listen! Suppose i,m just fed up cos i was lied to and ended up disfigured because of one certain doctor. I feel like a rabbit caught in headlights so to speak. Scared of looking like this for the rest of my life. Please keep giving us information you are really an inspiration to us all.Like everyone on here we just want a cure!

No worries wishful thinker. You did not offend me at all. As I said before, I understand your pain and will continue to do my best to help you out. I know it sounds hard to believe now, but you will have beautiful skin.

BTW, I just saw your message on the previous page where you discussed your exoderm peel and the suffering that it has caused you. Is there any possibility that you can post pictures of your affected skin? I'd like to see what you're talking about before I attempt to come up with a strategy that could help.

Remember, the regenerative medice field is advancing at a blurring pace. What seems implausible or even impossible today is simply the reality of tomorrow.

Best wishes...

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Hi BRD, I tried to send you a private message for a few months but your mailbow is always full.

I know first hand that stem cells that you get in fat grafting do alot of magic, I was only 22 when I had my fat grafting so I really think at that age there are way more stme cells present in the fat than the older women in ther late fortys who get it now. The fat was taken from my inner knee. The area injected has not aged one bit in 16 years and has even gotton more youthful.Has regenerated when injured.Seems invinsible.One draw back is that the fat also grew a little.

My important question to you is "do you know how close stem cells have to be to an area of injury in order to repair it?"

Hi Jaden,

I'm glad to hear about your long-term success with fat grafting. I find that proper harvesting technique is crucial to adipose and mesenchymal stem cell survival before, durring and after transplantation. Your doctor was likely very skilled.

To answer your question, I like to inject ADSCs right in and around the area that I'm looking to augment. I do however cause that area to become inflamed beforehand (I do this by causing micero tissue damage) so that the SCs stay where they are needed. From there they begin to differentiate and multiply into various cells that makeup the dermis and hypodermis.

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Hey BRD,

I'm curious if this procedure could work for other types of scaring such as stretch marks, burns or cuts? The reason I ask is I came across a doctor here in LA advertising his usage of mesenchymal stem cells but the advertisement was for stretch marks. I'm not a doctor, but from what I understand this procedure of harvesting and injecting mesenchymal stem cells could work for all scaring, right? Sorry this is a little off topic but could you please confirm this?

Thank you

Hi Sarah222,

I'm not sure if the way in which I use stem cells would help stretch marks. I think you'd be able to get some improvement, but I don't believe that the results will be perfect. As you know, acne scars generally are visible because of the dermal and subdermal damage which usually causes tissue atrophy. If the skin at that location was to be level with undamaged skin then the acne scar would become next to invisible. Thus I use stem cells as a way augment that tissue by way of histological regeneration. On the other hand, for stretch marks to disappear, you'd need to have something that can completely remodel your skin. I think with more powerful and better controlled regenerative techniques that utilize pluripotent stem cells (instead of multipotent types that I use) and gene therapy this may very well be possible. :)

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Hey BRD,

I'm curious if this procedure could work for other types of scaring such as stretch marks, burns or cuts? The reason I ask is I came across a doctor here in LA advertising his usage of mesenchymal stem cells but the advertisement was for stretch marks. I'm not a doctor, but from what I understand this procedure of harvesting and injecting mesenchymal stem cells could work for all scaring, right? Sorry this is a little off topic but could you please confirm this?

Thank you

Hi Sarah222,

I'm not sure if the way in which I use stem cells would help stretch marks. I think you'd be able to get some improvement, but I don't believe that the results will be perfect. As you know, acne scars generally are visible because of the dermal and subdermal damage which usually causes tissue atrophy. If the skin at that location was to be level with undamaged skin then the acne scar would become next to invisible. Thus I use stem cells as a way augment that tissue by way of histological regeneration. On the other hand, for stretch marks to disappear, you'd need to have something that can completely remodel your skin. I think with more powerful and better controlled regenerative techniques that utilize pluripotent stem cells (instead of multipotent types that I use) and gene therapy this may very well be possible. :)

Hi BRD, I always look forward to your insight. I was feeling kinda down and out the pats several days but reading your posts today uplifted me.Thanks.

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Hi BRD,

I'm trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full, Is it possible you send me a PM and I reply to it? Does that override the inbox full thing?

thanks

I prefer to keep messages public so that other people can learn from your experience. Is that OK with you?

Hi BRD

Its OK with me :dance:

first off i want to thank you for all the information you have given the community.

I read your last post and you said you were exchanging emails with Aoluosi, I'm wondering what is your opinion about the clinic? Is it worth a shot? Is it one of the better clinics? I know you're not here to solicit any clinic but I'm already 80% sure I want to go here and I just want some input from someone I trust.

The Reason I'm asking is that I live in Canada so I would have to travel very far for treatment and I'm a poor student so I can't afford to trial and error, this is why I'm trying to do enough research to make a good decision. (found this post while searching "Chemical Peel" - what my derm recommended)

thanks for everything

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@ pink lawyer, wishful thinker and v_singh,

Ask yourselves one simple question... Do you prefer to have me around on acne.org to give you and everyone else access to cutting edge info or would you have preferred that I not come here to share that info in the first place?

I am sharing knowledge with everyone that had I patented could otherwise turn into a personal cash cow. Instead, I've decided to offer my expertise/ideas/discoveries free of charge without taking credit for them as anything more than an enigmatic member of this forum. I need not explain my reasons for making it so, however I doubt it is difficult to understand that what I've done is for your own good and it is in my analysis the best way that I can change the medical landscape in regard to the treatment of acne scarring. By not sharing my personal info, not only have I shown that I am not interested in financial gains and therefore have neutralized potential conflicts of interest, but I've also stimulated many a member to go to their doctors and tell them what I stated herein.

Now let's explore the alternative. If I simply gave everyone here my address, many will not make the effort to go to doctors in their part of the world and ask them if they are interested in exploring my methodologies. Rather they will simply buy airline tickets, book their hotels and pay me a fee to get what can conservatively be called a lengthy and complex treatment. Unfortunately only the wealthier amongst you will be able to do this, while those who do not have relatively fat wallets will be left sulking in a psychological twilight without the hope that what I do may through a collective effort be soon made available as a viable treatment option in their respective communities/countries.

So what I've done and the way in which I have done it, has a point and an intended effect. That goal is to get the word out as efficiently as possible by using your communal manpower, emotions, intelligence and determination to disseminate knowledge to those who can apply it. Some people have already gone to various physicians to share with them what they have learned here and therefore changes are already afoot. In fact there are currently a few doctors applying some of the knowledge and methodologies I've shared with you. The Aoluosi Clinic in China has established email correspondence with me in their attempt to learn more about how I treat patients. I've also been told that Dr. Khan in England has begun to use some of my techniques. More power to them all!

So think carefully about the unjust dynamic created with your comments. You are attempting to put me in a difficult position by making me feel guilty for doing what I think is collectively the best option for all acne scar sufferers and not just for the individuals who have the money, the time or the visa waivers to come and visit me. So this "carrot" that I'm dangling in front of you can either be used to feed progress that impacts everyone who shares your pain or it can be thrown away because in this unique case you're not happy that I don't act like some other doctors who will walk the road to hell just to get their name out, whilst vying for the opportunity to reach into your bank account and promise you eternal bliss. This is a "one for all and all for one fight", not one for one...

Contrary to what you may be thinking at this point, I am not at all upset with you. Actually, I know you are in a lot of pain. I sympathize, empathize and truly do want you to live a life free of the terrors that scars have brought unto your daily existence. That is why I will continue coming here to offer you my support whomever and wherever you are. To me you are all equals, and that is why you will all receive the same homogeneous service from the inconspicuous BRD. In other words, all acne scar sufferers deserve no less than equal access to me. No one will be favoured regardless of how much money they offer me, no one will be punished for disagreeing with my way of doing things and no one will be left out simply because they do not have the resources to even consider seeking me out in the first place. Thus this relationship will continue to be communal and it will thus remain a virtual one.

The virtual pen is mightier than the doctor's needle. Together we can make the change come faster for all.

I wish you the best...

PS: I will answer the questions posted by other forum members in the next three days.

We do appreciate your being around but its irrelevant.Its great that you are sharing your knowledge but you are capable of offering much more than that.So far,we have not acheived much by going to the medical community with the info we have.Believe me,we have gone to great lengths in spreading the words.Its not easy as many members have tried to convince other doctors .I think the most convincing way is to have YOUR patients or even yourself to speak to these doctors on a professional level.

If you give us your address,those of us who gets treated by you will go out in the world and show everyone how effective your procedures are!!!This is much better than just asking the other doctors alone and some of us will get the improvement we want!!!2 birds 1 stone!!!And as for the reason some of us who dont have fat wallets dont get treated....well,this group wont get treated anywhere else.What difference does it make for those without the money??Will they get treated for free locally?Is it fair to those who have the time and money?In fact,I suspect some of us will be ripped off soon by those so called"stemcell therapy" out there.Heck,many of us have been sucked dry of our hard earned dollars by unscrupulous doctors in the past.I am sure you are well aware of that.So on the contractuary,those who could not afford it now at least has hopes that something CAN help them.That would motivate them to make that extra buck.Also,as more and more doctors adopt your methodologies ,the price will certainly go down.Its all about business...demand and supply.

Again,I really believe you mean well.Your intentions are good but I seriously doubt its effect.So far,we still have members suffering whereas some lucky patients are receiving the best treatments.When will we become the lucky patients?

Its not our attempt to put you in a difficult situation.We just want you to know your whole philosophy of impacting the sufferers to collectively help each other is beautiful but not pragmatic.Whats effective and pragmatic is to open the door and make your procedures available to those who are interested.Positive results will spread like wild fire.More happy patients means less bitter patients and hopes for everyone!The whole medical community will see what great treatments these are.You can certainly act like other doctors and reach into our bank accts as long as you deliver what you promise.I dont think any of us has a problem with that.

Its untrue when you say all sufferers deserve no less than equal access to you.We,on this forum at least is not equal to the patients you treat physically.

With all due respect,BRD,I just want to point out what we dont agree on.I hope we can all help each other on this mission .And perhaps one day,we could somehow convince BRD to do otherwise.Lets all keep exploring options here.BRD doesnt neccessarily have to invite us into clinic.Perhaps ,one day his patients would come out and announce to the world that he/she no longer suffers from scarring and doctors around the world adopt his methodologies and becos BRDs patients came out voluntarily,we then know about BRDs clinic without him soliciting business here...........

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