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pantothenic acid vs. pantethine?

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i definitely think this thread deserves a bump.... could more people please update or post their results?

i ordered 3 orders of B5 from b5clearskin.com because of their generous return policy (up to 3 orders of B5 will be refunded completely, even with shipping).

my face is pretty clear, it's just my back and chest that makes me look to vitamins to help prevent acne internally. i simply didn't feel comfortable mega-dosing on any vitamin. i'm 17 and fairly petite, i just kept on feeling i was screwing up my insides or something.

so anyway this pantethine looks extremely promising, i'm ready to return my B5 and just get 1 or 2 bottles of the swanson's.

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hey guys.. im gonna jump on the boat with u guys too

listen iv been taking B5 at 10g a day for 3 months now, i use the acnemiracle brand, so it has zinc in it also..

if i was to introduce Panethine in to my regimen how would i do it?

what dosage should i start off on and what about the B5? should i carry on with that and slowly take it down? if so at what dosage.. 10g?

thanks guys

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XgamerX, if your dr.p's reg was working so well.. why are you going on the panetheine?.. i thought you were virtually clear from acne due to the perricone reg...

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dude123, how is the pantethine doing? Still seeing improvement? Im on day 6 but my face is breaking out because i started using C&C blackhead clearing scrub (stupid on my part). I quit using it though so i hope my face is back to "normal" in 2 days or so.

Im taking 900 mg and i wanted to cut back to 600 a day, but with the way my face is going i'll probably stick with 900 to try and get clear faster.

2SG

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XgamerX, if your dr.p's reg was working so well.. why are you going on the panetheine?.. i thought you were virtually clear from acne due to the perricone reg...

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2SG

I really havent seen much difference at all in the oil on my nose, which is always really oily, but can easily be taken care of with a dab of a tissue...the only other place on my face thats remotely oily is my forehead, and I have seen a bit of a reduction, which is good....

on another note, that website that you posted, www.pantethine.info there was an interesting stat on your website that was quite interesting and may explain why in some cases pantethine works better than pantothenic acid...it had to do with the fact that while both were water soluble, pantothenic acid only stays in your body as long as it needs to process it, then its excreted through urine....Pantethine on the other hand, stays in your body for a full 16 hours...so now i understand why you have to take such a small amount of pantethine to get the same effectiveness as 10g or more of pantothenic acid...

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pantothenic acid only stays in your body as long as it needs to process it, then its excreted through urine....Pantethine on the other hand, stays in your body for a full 16 hours...so now i understand why you have to take such a small amount of pantethine to get the same effectiveness as 10g or more of pantothenic acid...

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2SG

you mentioned earlier that 900mg of pantethine is equal to about 8g of B5. where did you get that conversion? maybe we need to up our dosage a bit for the first few weeks to jump start the process? i'm just afraid that takin 4 pills a day might be really bad. also, i'm going to try to take a tablet of niacin along with the pantethine. it seems to increase blood circulation (face flushing) so that might distribute the pantethine better? i can't afford all of dr. p's regimen pills either, gamer sad.gif

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malia:

i think taking 4 300 mg pantehine pills a day is ok, in fact im probably gonna start doing that myself. I don't remember where i saw that, but i saw it somewhere. I think it said 6-8 grams, so its a broad approximation.

As far as gamers reg, i'm afraid i might have to stop using the cream and/or toner because not only am i not getting clear still, but i am still breaking out.

I am sooooo frustrated because i am taking a lot of good healthy acne fighting vitamins. Ive been on some longer than others, so i still need to give them time, but damn im pissed.

I bought some epsom salt tonight and i had my first bath. It was nice, very relaxing. I washed my face with it as well. I think im gonna start washing my face with it at night once a day.

Let me know how the niacin is, i might want to get some. But the whole flushing, red faced thing scares me. let me know if you break out, etc. I read online that a (random) girl took too much and she developed a huge rash over her body, which went away over time, but still scary. So, take the niacin in its recoommended dosage and dont over do it.

2SG

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Was anyone here on pantothenic acid before switching to pantethine ? I am, but I was planning on slowly introducing the pantethine to my body, so build up the dosage instead of taking 4 pills a day immediately.

But there's no documentation on how to 'convert' the pantethine <> pantothenic acid dosages, other than some quotes of, I believe it was a diet website?

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Well, thats like saying to start slowly with pantotheic acid when people START with 10 grams a day.

Although there are no studies between pantethine and acne, pantethine itslef has been studied vigorously for other ailments and diseases. Thus, the recommended doses for certain things (high cholesterol, high triglycerides) call for a certain amount anyway, which i believe is 900 mg a day, and I read that you can take more. In my opinion, you could take 5 a day and everything would be fine.

2SG

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I'm confused as to what kind of pantethine to take.

A bottle of puritan's pride pantethine lists the ingredient as "Pantothenic Acid (as Pantethine)".

A bottle of swanson's pantethine lists it as "Pantesin Pantethine (Coenzyme A)

Are these the same things?

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I've been waiting to post until I had something to say.....anyway, I've been takin B-5 for about 3wks (over 2 years ago I took about 5 Grams per day for a month or two and my acne cleared all up But then I started trying to concieve and didn't want to take any chances)

Now that I am finished Breast feeding I started 5 grams again, but then I read about Pantethine and have been taking that for the last week. So far there has been no complications from switching from b-5 to pantethine (900mg). My face looks great. No new break outs after the initial breakout beginning the first week of taking the b-5. I can tell my skin is much dryer and my lips are a tad dryer, I've been needing to use carmex on them. My hands need lotion too.

Between Pantethine and Dan's BP GEL I look and feel great!! I think this is really promising!!

(moderate acne)

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Thanks for the post.

Since you were taking b-5 and were clear, keep us updated as to whether you stay clear on the pantethine. I dunno how easy it will be to tell if its that or the bp gel though.

2SG

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mm. i foudn some multivitamins taht i was going to buy..

but it contained like 60mg of p.acid.. as d-calcium panthothenate..

what does the d-calcium... thing mean?..

thx in advance

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d-calcium is a derivate of pantothenic acid.All pantothenic acid you will ever see will probably say d-calcium next to it.

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can someone either post a direct link to pantithine on swanson website or pm it to me.

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anybody seeing results yet? i know it will take a while for some people but i'm still curious to see if it started for anyone yet.

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Hi Malia, I switched from 5 grams of b-5 to Pantethine one week ago today. I can't tell the difference, only less pills to take. I was taking 10 pills and now I'm only taking 3 small soft gels Pantethine.

I'm using the NOW brand of Pantethine. It cost 22.49 (usd) at my local healthfood store. No new breakouts!! I know it's working because I've got to use Carmex on my lips and have a little bit dryer hands. I'm still not completely oil free on my face, but I can tell it's much less and my face is clear.

So far so good. I'm really happy about this prospect!!

(to be fair I've always been on BP, for the last 15 yrs and it's always helped my face, but I've never been clear always about 3 or more spots in one day. I don't follow Dan's routine. But I do believe in his BP Gel. I don't eat very well, I have hormonal acne and I only wash my face when I take a shower, which is every two days because the ends of my hair tend to be dry! And I switched from Neutrogena's BP to Dan's 3 days ago! I only put it on at night before I go to bed.)

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