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(@burgsch)

Posted : 04/22/2015 9:00 am

Hey

I had visit at specialist - dermatologist.

He looked at me once and sait it is Roseacea\Acne issue.

Normally my face is just redder (not strong but visible) - but sometimes I get bubles, red dots. As far I noticed it is always when I eat something what I shouldn't. I guess it is food allergy because normally when I do not eat example bananas I have smooth skin.

He argued with me and have me these:

Minocin (Minocyline) 50mg, 90 pills - morning and evening and Metronidazolcreme.

I very doubt with his diagnosis, perhaps someone of you had similar problems suspected food allergy but it really was acne?

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(@melloman)

Posted : 04/22/2015 9:28 am

Hahaha! I suspected food allergies as well, and got a visit with one of my State's top food allergists. He was very mean and argumentative. I asked for a skin prick test and he was all pissed about it. He said "This is just a waste of time! You don't have any food allergies!" Of course when the results came back, it showed I was sensitive to half the foods he tested me for. He got even more angry looking at my arm (where the results were). He grabbed it and said "turn your arm. No! Turn it this way so I can see it!"

Long story short, the doctor was wrong, but I was a little off as well. I have food sensitivities, not allergies. And I think you do, too. Sensitivities and intolerances are what usually cause acne. Sensitivities are the easiest to heal. I can give you some help with getting started on healing it if you'd like. I've pretty much cleared my acne, and I can help save you a lot of time.

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Posted : 04/22/2015 9:54 am

I had test for IgE (allergy) and all were negative - prick tests (skin) and blood one.

Interestingly test skins showed negative on my arm but 2 hours later I got few tiny dots on my cheeks. I think it has correlation.

I haven't done test for intolerance (sensitive) yet (IgG test).

One for me is sure - I was quite red but had smooth skin. For years very rarely I got any dots on face - I must have eaten 10 kiwis fruit to get this. To get the redness off I used Laser treatment. So far I got it 4 and I see effects. When my skin is not irritated because of the dots I am really "whiter".

Unfortunately this allergy or whatever it is after I eat example bananas or some chocolate makes my cheeks redder and full of dots, so the results of laser treatment for few days are gone.

To make it short:

- been red for many years;

- use various cremes, high specific ones, safe ones (I tolerated them good);

- laser helps me to be less red. Effects are stunning;

- precisely since August of last year I got reaction of organism for certain food - first it was bananas, then choco, sometimes tomato (sometimes not). Various cookies if eaten too much

- got dots on forehad and cheeks after eating such food - first reaction 30 mins after

My stuff for skin problems:

- Mirvasol (very rarely)

- IsisPharma +50 for sun

- Auriga AuriDerm Vitamin K concentrate (very effective)

For allergy problems I use daily:

- Clatra (Bilastinum)

- Aleric (Loratidine)

These meds for allergic suppose to prevent dots, redness, sneeze, coughing ect. So far I don't see they prevent dots - too weak?

Also regarding similar symptoms - it may be:

- intolerance of histamine - reaction for food rich in histamine or food which makes body think of it;

- your gut leaks and toxins come to blood but it would be weird because it would react to every food, not specific one;

Haven't done for those tests either.

If you could share your way to better face, do it please :)

I live in the Netherlands, here medical care is far for being good.

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(@melloman)

Posted : 04/22/2015 10:18 am

Okay. I had blood tests done that came back negative. Most tests aren't very accurate.

First:

How severe is your acne? And by red, is it inflammatory red, like your face is irritated?

My foods may not work for you. I think I have leaky gut. All you have to do is an elimination diet. Eat only foods you know you don't react to, and see if you clear up. Then add in more foods and see how you react. I had cystic acne, so my results were very apparent and easy to see. Also, another sign is to pay atention to your body. If you have bloating after a meal, that means something was causing you problems. Do you poop okay? If you poop nice healthy logs everyday, that's another sign you are doing good.

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(@burgsch)

Posted : 04/22/2015 2:56 pm

Well, my acne is various - sometimes it is just tiny dot on the left cheek, sometimes on the right. Sometimes just on forehead very faded dots.

Recently I got stronger one, wider bubbles on forehead and cheeks. It takes few days of eating non bad food to make it disappear.

Redness when dots are present is stronger than normally I am - but it is not very red, not purple dark red. However it makes my face redder killing laser treatment - if I eat nothing bad I am really low red on face, thanks to laser and creme cure.

I am going to do leaky gut tests but I am not sure how to call it, Dutch doctors usually don't want you to do any tests, they know better and they have answer for everything - rest at home with paracetamol.

Bunch of retards.

I try to avoid bad food however it is complicated if one day you eat tomato, next day it gives you reaction. It might be a problem of amount of it or just tomato reaction from first day was just next day - however I tend to not believe it as I said I usually have reactions just after 30 mins to few hours at furthest I noticed.

My poop is OK, don't see any problems, also even if I eat something bad I don't have sensations, no bloating in my stomach.

So far safe for me are, examples:

- potatoes

- brown rice (white too I think)

- olive oil

- wheat flour bread

- dark flour bread

- Elstar kind apples (some other more than 3 may give me the reaction)

- eggs, can eat in any amount

- milk probably OK

- cheese (white, yellow and brie type) OK

Weird:

- fresh pressed juice - apples and raspberry - one day drank 250 ml OK, second day 500 ml OK, third day 500 ml - reaction.

- chocolate cover for waffles - 1 piece 2cm x 5cm OK, second day 2 pieces - very low reaction, 4 pieces at third day reaction on forehead.

t is bad as I do not know what can eat what I can't without testing it on myself and even then there may be correlation with amount of such product. Such observations gave me reason not to believe this doctor about my diagnosis. He refused to listen to me and said I talk nonsense.

Also according to his words laser treatment is wasting money, it is weird as I see results of using it.

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(@melloman)

Posted : 04/22/2015 5:19 pm

Wow, that's weird that dairy doesn't break you out. Lucky guy. You seem like you're pretty set. If you're able to clear your face, that's great. You have your key. The only thing left to do is heal so you can tolerate foods again. If you ever find out you have leaky gut, I would suggest avoiding grains for a bit. I wasn't intolerant or sensitive to grains, but they kept my gut from healing because that natural chemicals broke down the intestinal walls. I avoided them for 2 weeks, and added them back in slowly. My gut healed so fast, it's not even funny.

As for tests, I'm sure a naturopath or cheap traditional asian doctor can give you a leaky gut test. Traditional Asian is cheap, but naturopathic is expensive. Either way would work. That's if your dutch doctors don't let you do it.

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Posted : 04/23/2015 12:28 pm

Wow, that's weird that dairy doesn't break you out.

Why?

 

Lucky guy. You seem like you're pretty set. If you're able to clear your face, that's great. You have your key.

Today's the 4rd day since I got reaction for a cookies and raspberry juice. "Dots" are disappearing, forehead is almost cleared, cheeks have some 3-4 ones on each side.

"Roseacea and acne" doc said, heh can't wait till I see allergologist.

The only thing left to do is heal so you can tolerate foods again. If you ever find out you have leaky gut, I would suggest avoiding grains for a bit. I wasn't intolerant or sensitive to grains, but they kept my gut from healing because that natural chemicals broke down the intestinal walls. I avoided them for 2 weeks, and added them back in slowly. My gut healed so fast, it's not even funny.

As for tests, I'm sure a naturopath or cheap traditional asian doctor can give you a leaky gut test. Traditional Asian is cheap, but naturopathic is expensive. Either way would work. That's if your dutch doctors don't let you do it.

What do you mean about this test? For leaky gut I know you drink mannitol and few hours later you give your urine to test (and blood IIRC).

 

As I mentioned I have quite not common reactions - it may be not allergy itself but intolerance\histamine\leaky gut (or fungus ect bad things inside gut). That all would be known after seeing allergologist and making tests first.

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Posted : 04/23/2015 10:29 pm

Oh. I thought you meant there was a chance you wouldn't be able to get a test done when you were talking about the Dutch doctors.

Well, with dairy, I know it's very difficult to digest. And with leaky gut, the dairy itself may leak through the holes in the intestinal walls, or the dairy will cause other foods to leak through with how difficult it is to digest. You can still have leaky gut and not be intolerant to dairy, though.

I also had/have a histamine intolerance. Dairy contains histamine, so if you have that, then it's kind of odd it doesn't make you react. Either your gut isn't too badly damaged, or your gut can handle whatever amount you've been taking in. I had a low intolerance to cheese which meant I can eat 1 serving without much reaction, but if I eat 5 servings, I'll get a bad reaction.

I was going to get an MRT test done, but then someone on here gave me some guidance on just avoiding grains and not being scared to try more vegetables and some fruits. Here:

make sure to copy the full link

I'm doing so much better now. I can eat a cake, and not worry too much about a breakout. Of course my diet isn't full of bad stuff, though. I'm still healing.

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(@burgsch)

Posted : 04/29/2015 7:09 am

Hmmm

I am 5 days after taking daily 100mg of Minocin as prescribed dermatologist.

Very oddly since that time I had no any symptoms, reactions.

Yesterday I especially ate *banana*, 3 cookies and I did not notice any change. Today on breakfast I ate cookies and apple-raspberry juice (fresh). Still nothing. No reaction 😕

 

I still refuse to accept what he says (that it is not food related) but I read Minocin kills Chlamydia, yeasts ect fungus (infection on whatever it is) and some other types of bacteria. Maybe it killed some of them?

However treatment is for 45 days, I very doubt I would see effects 5 days after.

 

My GP still refuses giving me food specialist - allergy - because usually they send people there when they are close to die.

This is natural in the Netherlands, what a bunch of COCKSUCKERS.

I pay 110 EUR every month health insurance plus taxes for health which are being taken from my salary. In 2 years I paid only 2500 EUR private insurance (which in NL is obligatory) and still I hear NO.

 

Today evening I am gonna eat rice with yoghurt and strawberry yoghurt.

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(@strongbadia5000)

Posted : 04/29/2015 9:08 am

There are good and bad doctors just like every other profession so I would get a second/third opinion if you doubt the diagnosis.

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(@burgsch)

Posted : 04/29/2015 9:13 am

You cannot in the Netherlands, your GP must agree to that.

And they almost never do it seems :S

 

I continue testing :)

I am going to drink oil made of Nigella Sativa - have good opinions about such things like allergy, infections, guts ect.

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