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This is another holistic approach, so it has its merits. It might work for some people, and not work for others. I would advice digestive enzymes instead of the tea. Why? Some teas, especially herbal, can actually raise histamines and thus increase IgE reactions. I cut out all teas and my skin improved. I even cut out rhoiboos tea to decrease my histamine releasers and that seems to help. I love my teas, but I needed to cut them out for now because they weren't helping me.
Aloe vera topically works great, but if you choose to drink it you must start with very small quantities because it may cause a purging reaction for those with digestive issues. Again, why not just take digestive enzymes instead? I fully trust enzymedica products, they are formulated without fillers and you can get samples from a sales rep to see if they work for you, and also find the right formula for your needs.
Cod liver oil: it has helped a lot of people, but not those who cannot digest oils. Same goes for fish oil, vitamin D, vitamin E, evening primrose, etc.
I think this girl's approach is similar to yours, even though she went with different teas and infusions. So yeah, it can work for some people and you need to be patient.
Again our bodies are screaming out, literally through our skin, telling us there is a problem.
Yes you are right that acne does have a lot to do with genetics, but there is an underlying variable scientifically proven to turn this genetic susceptibility into a very real thing and that is our hormones.
I am here to say there is a way that that variable can be altered to change the resulting equation being acne.
It IS about listening to our bodies, finding the PROBLEM and fixing it.
I'm not talking about one specific hormone here too and I need you to know that.
Testosterone is one, excess estrogen for guys is another..
Cortisol and norepinephrine from stress is another and so on...
It can be cured, specifically by eating enough of the right foods that work with our specific blood group so that our bodies have the means by which it can balance all the hormones inside it effectively.
Please explain your opinion of acne and why my stuff is garbage because I am willing to listen.
I had severe acne for almost fifteen years. I NEVER had anything wrong with my hormones and was tested hundreds of times. I always ate healthy and for many, many years I was on diets so strict I basically ate exactly the same thing everyday (yams, carrots and a bit of fish) and it made absolutely no difference in my skin. It didn't matter what foods I avoided, it didn't matter how "regulated" my lifestyle was, it didn't matter how many teas/supplements and ancient healing remedies I tried nothing worked at all.
Have you ever heard of androgen sensitivity? Hyperkeratinization? follicular occlusion? these are the real causes of acne my friend and they are all genetic. Genetics are tough to change even with all the best efforts things may not work out.
Blood toxins are not a major factor in acne, the "pus" is only the infection from the blocked hair follicule being overloaded with sebum and unable to exfoliate creating an infection within the pore.
Also, almost all people with acne have normal circulating androgens and no hormonal imbalance.
Yea his entire physiological explanation of why whatever he's doing works is just horrendous. The tea can't hurt you if you have it in moderation, so if you want to give it a shot, go for it.
But other than that, this really should be treated as spam.
It's one thing to post what has worked for you personally in the hopes of spreading your success; whether or not the stated science is correct when the intentions are good and it's not dangerous, it's usually fine. This is common on acne.org.
But this thread reads like an advertisement at the end of a magazine; zero credible information, plenty of hype and attempted slogans and catchphrases, and above all a statement that it will "change your life" and "guarantee clear skin". Who can claim this?!?! Literally no one with an IQ higher than that of a rock would say that something is "guaranteed" for everyone when it comes to acne. Acne is probably the most diverse affliction on earth in terms of how many different things can cause it; and to say that one thing can cure it, for everyone, and with no side effects demonstrates you should take what he says with a grain of salt.
Statements like this bother me because I see too many people that are extremely impressionable with ideas like this because of their frustrating skin, and their hopes soar and then plummet as they realize "cure" schemes like this are crap.
It's either a joke or he doesn't understand how things work.
Again our bodies are screaming out, literally through our skin, telling us there is a problem.
Yes you are right that acne does have a lot to do with genetics, but there is an underlying variable scientifically proven to turn this genetic susceptibility into a very real thing and that is our hormones.
I am here to say there is a way that that variable can be altered to change the resulting equation being acne.
It IS about listening to our bodies, finding the PROBLEM and fixing it.
I'm not talking about one specific hormone here too and I need you to know that.
Testosterone is one, excess estrogen for guys is another..
Cortisol and norepinephrine from stress is another and so on...
It can be cured, specifically by eating enough of the right foods that work with our specific blood group so that our bodies have the means by which it can balance all the hormones inside it effectively.
Please explain your opinion of acne and why my stuff is garbage because I am willing to listen.
I had severe acne for almost fifteen years. I NEVER had anything wrong with my hormones and was tested hundreds of times. I always ate healthy and for many, many years I was on diets so strict I basically ate exactly the same thing everyday (yams, carrots and a bit of fish) and it made absolutely no difference in my skin. It didn't matter what foods I avoided, it didn't matter how "regulated" my lifestyle was, it didn't matter how many teas/supplements and ancient healing remedies I tried nothing worked at all.
Have you ever heard of androgen sensitivity? Hyperkeratinization? follicular occlusion? these are the real causes of acne my friend and they are all genetic. Genetics are tough to change even with all the best efforts things may not work out.
Blood toxins are not a major factor in acne, the "pus" is only the infection from the blocked hair follicule being overloaded with sebum and unable to exfoliate creating an infection within the pore.
Also, almost all people with acne have normal circulating androgens and no hormonal imbalance.
except teenagers like me. 
Sigh
Oh well. Lol guys we should respect each other not call each other idiots. You or the other person may be right and we are here to learn. You guys should know how it feels to be judged.
Anyways, i respect your attemp to help. I'll see about the fenugreek tea. It may or may not help with acne but if IT IS healthy then, why not?
Thank you for taking your time to write these thread. It must took long lol.
Again our bodies are screaming out, literally through our skin, telling us there is a problem.
Yes you are right that acne does have a lot to do with genetics, but there is an underlying variable scientifically proven to turn this genetic susceptibility into a very real thing and that is our hormones.
I am here to say there is a way that that variable can be altered to change the resulting equation being acne.
It IS about listening to our bodies, finding the PROBLEM and fixing it.
I'm not talking about one specific hormone here too and I need you to know that.
Testosterone is one, excess estrogen for guys is another..
Cortisol and norepinephrine from stress is another and so on...
It can be cured, specifically by eating enough of the right foods that work with our specific blood group so that our bodies have the means by which it can balance all the hormones inside it effectively.
Please explain your opinion of acne and why my stuff is garbage because I am willing to listen.
I had severe acne for almost fifteen years. I NEVER had anything wrong with my hormones and was tested hundreds of times. I always ate healthy and for many, many years I was on diets so strict I basically ate exactly the same thing everyday (yams, carrots and a bit of fish) and it made absolutely no difference in my skin. It didn't matter what foods I avoided, it didn't matter how "regulated" my lifestyle was, it didn't matter how many teas/supplements and ancient healing remedies I tried nothing worked at all.
Have you ever heard of androgen sensitivity? Hyperkeratinization? follicular occlusion? these are the real causes of acne my friend and they are all genetic. Genetics are tough to change even with all the best efforts things may not work out.
Blood toxins are not a major factor in acne, the "pus" is only the infection from the blocked hair follicule being overloaded with sebum and unable to exfoliate creating an infection within the pore.
Also, almost all people with acne have normal circulating androgens and no hormonal imbalance.
except teenagers like me.
Sigh
Oh well. Lol guys we should respect each other not call each other idiots. You or the other person may be right and we are here to learn. You guys should know how it feels to be judged.
Anyways, i respect your attemp to help. I'll see about the fenugreek tea. It may or may not help with acne but if IT IS healthy then, why not?
Thank you for taking your time to write these thread. It must took long lol.
He is not right. He is parroting myths with no credible sources. It's always good too eat healthy (I mean without getting obsessive about it) but it will not totally clear acne on it's own as it will not fix the genetic component which pulls the strongest out of any factor involved in chronic AV by far.
Don't forget Acne is only "partially" a hormonal disease, it is primarily genetic as every dermatologist with a credible degree knows. It is a disease/abnormality of the way the pore exfoliates first and for most which we already know is passed down through a bit of a faulty gene.
Natural medicine is always weaker than modern in it's treatment and effect. And when you're dealing with a time sensitive condition like acne which may lead you to scar horribly you do not want to be wasting time on ineffective natural methods (trust me).
Again our bodies are screaming out, literally through our skin, telling us there is a problem.
Yes you are right that acne does have a lot to do with genetics, but there is an underlying variable scientifically proven to turn this genetic susceptibility into a very real thing and that is our hormones.
I am here to say there is a way that that variable can be altered to change the resulting equation being acne.
It IS about listening to our bodies, finding the PROBLEM and fixing it.
I'm not talking about one specific hormone here too and I need you to know that.
Testosterone is one, excess estrogen for guys is another..
Cortisol and norepinephrine from stress is another and so on...
It can be cured, specifically by eating enough of the right foods that work with our specific blood group so that our bodies have the means by which it can balance all the hormones inside it effectively.
Please explain your opinion of acne and why my stuff is garbage because I am willing to listen.
I had severe acne for almost fifteen years. I NEVER had anything wrong with my hormones and was tested hundreds of times. I always ate healthy and for many, many years I was on diets so strict I basically ate exactly the same thing everyday (yams, carrots and a bit of fish) and it made absolutely no difference in my skin. It didn't matter what foods I avoided, it didn't matter how "regulated" my lifestyle was, it didn't matter how many teas/supplements and ancient healing remedies I tried nothing worked at all.
Have you ever heard of androgen sensitivity? Hyperkeratinization? follicular occlusion? these are the real causes of acne my friend and they are all genetic. Genetics are tough to change even with all the best efforts things may not work out.
Blood toxins are not a major factor in acne, the "pus" is only the infection from the blocked hair follicule being overloaded with sebum and unable to exfoliate creating an infection within the pore.
Also, almost all people with acne have normal circulating androgens and no hormonal imbalance.
except teenagers like me.
Sigh
Oh well. Lol guys we should respect each other not call each other idiots. You or the other person may be right and we are here to learn. You guys should know how it feels to be judged.
Anyways, i respect your attemp to help. I'll see about the fenugreek tea. It may or may not help with acne but if IT IS healthy then, why not?
Thank you for taking your time to write these thread. It must took long lol.
He is not right. He is parroting myths with no credible sources. It's always good too eat healthy (I mean without getting obsessive about it) but it will not totally clear acne on it's own as it will not fix the genetic component which pulls the strongest out of any factor involved in chronic AV by far.
Don't forget Acne is only "partially" a hormonal disease, it is primarily genetic as every dermatologistist with a credible degree knows. It is a disease/abnormality of the way the pore exfoliates first and for most which we already know is passed down through a bit of a faulty gene.
Natural medicine is always weaker than modern in it's treatment and effect. And when you're dealing with a time sensitive condition like acne which may lead you to scar horribly you do not want to be wasting time on ineffective natural methods (trust me).
I didnt say he is right. I said he may or may not be right. I dont like saying statements that claim 100% true cause no one really knows the 100% truth. Lol, you know, you dont really need to educate me on acne. I think ive spent a lot of time on it.
Btw, i reduced my 10 to 20 cysts to just 2 cyst a week with just natural stuff like oatmeal, avocado, honey, rice flour, and apple cider vinegar. So i dont know about natural stuff being weaker than the modern treatment ( i have tried the modern treatment ) cause like i said NO ONE knows the 100% truth. Heck scientists still have a lot to learn. I prefer anecdotal reviews though. Like experiences from people. Anyways, you might take this wrong so just to be clear, i am in no way saying anyone is right even myself. Different people different opinions and it's hard to change people's opinions really cause they are set to their own beliefs. Though i am open minded and accept different opinions to mold mine.
Pls dont say any statements like " Natural medicine will ALWAYS be weaker than modern treatment " cause statements like that conclude that what the statement is saying is 100% true and have been checked and experimented with ALL humans on earth.
Just that. I hope you dont take this as an attack. I think you just misunderstood me. But anyways, i have no intention of an arguement more so with flame wars.
I hope modern treatments has been your cure for acne. Good day sir 
"In mammals, the skin is the largest organ of the integumentary system made up of multiple layers of ectodermal tissue, and guards the underlying muscles, bones, ligaments and internal organs.[1]" - Wikipedia.
I hope the fairy comes to you as well. Oh it's not one cup of tea. It's many cups of fenugreek tea a day for a few weeks.
Consistency and patience is the key.
Accutane thins your blood so if you're not taking it, your blood isn't thin, just not purified and carrying the nutrients your face needs to heal.
"In mammals, the skin is the largest organ of the integumentary system made up of multiple layers of ectodermal tissue, and guards the underlying muscles, bones, ligaments and internal organs.[1]" - Wikipedia.
I hope the fairy comes to you as well. Oh it's not one cup of tea. It's many cups of fenugreek tea a day for a few weeks.
Consistency and patience is the key.
Accutane thins your blood so if you're not taking it, your blood isn't thin, just not purified and carrying the nutrients your face needs to heal.
Accutane does not thin your blood in general. http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/accutane/thin+blood
Welll; I started drinking this Fenugreek tea lots and lots for about five days now; and I'm completely clear already 
My whole back is clear as well as face and neck; so there's got to be some truth to his theories 
have fun with your hate calling people idiots for supposed nonsense which works. 'Don't know it till you try it'
Darkheart--
Why do you have so much animosity? I agree that this post is sensationalistic but his tone is optimistic and he is not selling a product. Perhaps he is guilty of instilling optimism and hope into impressionable young minds.
Your negativity is stressful. Your tone is righteous and bitter. There is a fair amount of "pseudo-science" that speaks of how the rationale effects mental health and therefore physical health. I understand why you have had severe acne for 15 years.
(Also, are you a doctor? Are you a dermatologist? Just because you've had severe acne for 15 years and can utilize the internet does not make you an expert. Your username is "darkheart." Keep treading in the same water and you will remain in the same water.)
PS: Sorry everyone for my response back but I could not resist! I really truly believe negativity and stress worsen acne and well-being!
PSS: Zefferson, I don't have acne (just an occasional hormonal cyst) but I do use aloe vera toner and I love it! I'm over in China right now but perhaps I'll pick up some Fenugreek tea if I can find it.
I would prefer the OP didn't speak in such a pseudo-authoritative tone. If he/she is a medical professional as they imply in their posts, they should be well aware that everyone's body is different and will thus react differently to different treatments.
I appreciate the OP offering his/her own personal solution, but speaking in absolutes only serves to make others feel an even greater sense of hopelessness when this 'cure' ends up not working for them.
My aloe spray came in the mail today. Sprayed it all over my face and within seconds my face was red (to the point it was almost purple), tight and stinging. It went down after a couple hours. I took a prednisone pill (which I was just prescribed for poison ivy) shortly after the redness happened, so it may have been what saved me. Do you think I'm allergic to the stuff or could this be normal? I've never applied aloe before but I've used hand soaps and sanitizers with aloe in it with no reaction. Part of me thinks it was just attacking the bacteria in my face. It dried it right out and a lot of zits flaked off.
My aloe spray came in the mail today. Sprayed it all over my face and within seconds my face was red (to the point it was almost purple), tight and stinging. It went down after a couple hours. I took a prednisone pill (which I was just prescribed for poison ivy) shortly after the redness happened, so it may have been what saved me. Do you think I'm allergic to the stuff or could this be normal? I've never applied aloe before but I've used hand soaps and sanitizers with aloe in it with no reaction. Part of me thinks it was just attacking the bacteria in my face. It dried it right out and a lot of zits flaked off.
I use Aloe religiously and have never reacted like that to it; but once I offered it to my boyfriend and it made his face purply-red too and it eventually went all crusty like a chemical burn! So I'd be careful if you're sensitive to it
Do you think I'm allergic to the stuff or could this be normal?
Hey Exister, this sounds like a definite auto-immune reaction (allergic). I reccomend you don't use it again as with most allergic reactions, they will be worse for each time you react; by the way the aloe vera doesn't kill bacteria it's merely a moisturizer.
On topic of this thread I would like to say that the OP makes some interesting assumptions and correlations. On the subject of diary products there are in fact studies that link the consumption of diary products to acne (link1, link2, and link3 for reference.) Also note that there are four main known causes of acne, namely:
1. Genetics (link for reference)
2. Psychological (AKA. stress: link1, and link2 for reference)
3. Infectious Acne (a contagious bacteria) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propionibacterium_acnes )
4. Diet (although there is least evidence of this cause) (link1, link2, and link3 for reference)
Now, knowing this we can then safely assume that OP's theory about tea being able to help everyone is obviously just not true unless it's some miracle tea proven in a proper case study. I appreciate tips and tricks just as much as the next guy, I'l give OP credit for taking time to do a little research before coming up with this, but he obviously didn't think of the bigger picture (that being that acne is not just caused by a bad diet). I encourage anyone thinking that diet is affecting their acne to try this out, otherwise try and find out what is causing your acne and treat it accordingly by doing some proper research.
Do you think I'm allergic to the stuff or could this be normal?
Hey Exister, this sounds like a definite auto-immune reaction (allergic). I reccomend you don't use it again as with most allergic reactions, they will be worse for each time you react; by the way the aloe vera doesn't kill bacteria it's merely a moisturizer.
On topic of this thread I would like to say that the OP makes some interesting assumptions and correlations. On the subject of diary products there are in fact studies that link the consumption of diary products to acne (link1, link2, and link3 for reference.) Also note that there are four main known causes of acne, namely:
1. Genetics (link for reference)
2. Psychological (AKA. stress: link1, and link2 for reference)
3. Infectious Acne (a contagious bacteria) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propionibacterium_acnes )
4. Diet (although there is least evidence of this cause) (link1, link2, and link3 for reference)
Now, knowing this we can then safely assume that OP's theory about tea being able to help everyone is obviously just not true unless it's some miracle tea proven in a proper case study. I appreciate tips and tricks just as much as the next guy, I'l give OP credit for taking time to do a little research before coming up with this, but he obviously didn't think of the bigger picture (that being that acne is not just caused by a bad diet). I encourage anyone thinking that diet is affecting their acne to try this out, otherwise try and find out what is causing your acne and treat it accordingly by doing some proper research.
Sigh... There are no special types of acne. It all comes from genetics and that is it. Diet and stress are only aggravators and the bacteria associated with acne P.Acnes is in everyones skin. The real issue with acne is how the skin unproperly sheds which is almost certainly genetic.
i didn;t read it all if I am honest, but I caught your drift instantly. I am probably do exactly what you're saying, I don't use any of these bad chemical things, I have cut dairy and sugar of my diet, obviosly some sugar is needed however. And I still have acne.
I take supplements as well, vit c and zinc, primrose oil and probiotics for my bad digestion. Still acne.
It's all bullshit, it's your hormonal change, and you just have to wait till it goes away, with the help of a good skin routine.
Zeffersons approach might or might not work, but one things for sure. A medical approach will get you nowhere.
A doctors approach to acne, is treating the symptoms not the cause ie. chemicals and antibiotics.
I was on antibiotics for about 4 years and i definitely paid the price. My acne got under control, but my body suffered. I am now off medications and my digestive system is fucked. I have bad acid reflux, and i am unable to gain weight.
I agree that hormones are a big factor when it comes to acne, but people who say that diet have no effect on acne have no clue and are probably just repeating what their doctor told them.
I am a living proof that diet is a major factor when it comes to acne. I only got my acne under control when i cut out dairy, gluten, and excessive sugar. Basically the Paleo Diet.
When people say they've tried EVERYTHING, i'll bet my money that most of them haven't even tried cutting out dairy, or giving up coffee.
And regarding the natural/unatural discussion about cows milk.
Yes humans need "human" milk when we are babies, but in no way is it natural for a fully grown human to drink the milk of a forced impregnated cow.
That's so irrational. Cutting out dairy was the one thing that helped me the most.
Ps. "Acne is hormonal and you just have to wait until it goes away" is just not correct.
There are people well into their 30's still struggling with acne. Try telling them that they just have to wait. Give it some time.
Also, a good skin care routine is great for some, but the thing i've learned from personal experience is the more i wash my face, the more acne i get.
Hey Zefferson, you replied to my "Aloe Vera" topic awhile ago and I have been using the Aloe Vera since then. My face has been more under control but still not doing so great. Still frustrated, I am looking for more I can do for my face and your topic here talking about how it's all about the blood is very convincing. I am going to purchase cod liver pills, fenugreek pills, aloe vera pills, and an aloe vera spray because my face gets very greasy through the day.
I am going to buy all these off of the walgreens website and am just very unsure about all the ingredients in them. I am never sure if they are as organic as I need them to be so I was hoping you could verify all these ingredients for me, I will supply the webpage to the product too. I will sincerely appreciate this if you can help me.
Cod Liver Pills:
Nutrition FactsServing Size : 1 SoftgelAmount Per Serving% Daily value*Total Fat 0.5 g1% Cholesterol <0.5 g1% Cod Liver Oil 800 mg DHA Omega 3 (Docosahexaenoic Acid) 52 mg EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) 52 mg Vitamin A 2500 IU50% Vitamin D 270 IU68% Calories 10 Calories Calories From Fat 5 Calories
Fenugreek Pills:
Nutrition FactsServing Size : 2 Capsules
Serving per Container : 90Amount Per Serving% Daily value*Total Carbohydrate 1 g<1% Fenugreek 1.22 g
Aloe Vera Pills:
Nutrition FactsServing Size : 1 CapsuleAmount Per Serving% Daily value*Cape Aloe Leaves Latex Powder 500 mg
Aloe Vera Spray:
Ingredients: Aloe Vera (Aloe Barbadensis) Gel , Polysorbate 20 , Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E) , Phenoxyethanol , Ethylparaben , Butylparaben , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Carbomer , Tetrasodium EDTA , Triethanolamine
Thank you very much for anyones' help.
Hey Zefferson, you replied to my "Aloe Vera" topic awhile ago and I have been using the Aloe Vera since then. My face has been more under control but still not doing so great. Still frustrated, I am looking for more I can do for my face and your topic here talking about how it's all about the blood is very convincing. I am going to purchase cod liver pills, fenugreek pills, aloe vera pills, and an aloe vera spray because my face gets very greasy through the day.
I am going to buy all these off of the walgreens website and am just very unsure about all the ingredients in them. I am never sure if they are as organic as I need them to be so I was hoping you could verify all these ingredients for me, I will supply the webpage to the product too. I will sincerely appreciate this if you can help me.
Cod Liver Pills:
Nutrition Facts Serving Size : 1 Softgel Amount Per Serving % Daily value* Total Fat 0.5 g 1% Cholesterol <0.5 g 1% Cod Liver Oil 800 mg DHA Omega 3 (Docosahexaenoic Acid) 52 mg EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) 52 mg Vitamin A 2500 IU 50% Vitamin D 270 IU 68% Calories 10 Calories Calories From Fat 5 Calories
Fenugreek Pills:
Nutrition Facts Serving Size : 2 Capsules
Serving per Container : 90 Amount Per Serving % Daily value* Total Carbohydrate 1 g <1% Fenugreek 1.22 g
Aloe Vera Pills:
Nutrition Facts Serving Size : 1 Capsule Amount Per Serving % Daily value* Cape Aloe Leaves Latex Powder 500 mg
Aloe Vera Spray:
Ingredients: Aloe Vera (Aloe Barbadensis) Gel , Polysorbate 20 , Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E) , Phenoxyethanol , Ethylparaben , Butylparaben , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Carbomer , Tetrasodium EDTA , Triethanolamine
Thank you very much for anyones' help.
I wouldn't take aloe vera pills or buy that spray with a bunch of ingredients in it... plain and simple (and less pricy) just use 100% pure aloe vera juice. You can find it on Amazon and I'm sure other places. Or heck, you could grow your own plant! Drink some of the juice (small amount) mixed with water in the morning and at night on an empty stomach and apply it topically whenever needed.
I have tried aloe topically and internally for my acid reflux and it didn't seem amazingly useful for either. I think it makes me break out.
Again, just another example of how something that works well for others may not work for you.
Some of you guys are so catty on here. It's extremely rude to treat anyone like that, let alone someone merely trying to help.