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so i've been reading that the new fraxel is supposed to be really good for acne scars of all types... check out the photo gallery... click on "self run" skin resurfacing and on the top right corner there are arrows you click on to scan through pix... while you scan through, the case number shows on the top left corner. i found that case no. 39 was pretty impressive after just one treatment... it's an asian man who has several pock marks on both cheeks. it seems as though that many have blended with his skin. the next picture shows a close up. check it out!!! 
so i've been reading that the new fraxel is supposed to be really good for acne scars of all types... check out the photo gallery... click on "self run" skin resurfacing and on the top right corner there are arrows you click on to scan through pix... while you scan through, the case number shows on the top left corner. i found that case no. 39 was pretty impressive after just one treatment... it's an asian man who has several pock marks on both cheeks. it seems as though that many have blended with his skin. the next picture shows a close up. check it out!!! 🙂
is the new fraxel the sr1500?? those pics r pretty impressive does the 1 month mean pics taken a month after treatment (s)
.....if these earlier posts suggest at least a 30-40% improvement (treating mild to moderate-severe scarring mind you) after three-four sessions of AGGRESSIVE treatment with the SR750, is that not enough indication that it in fact DOES work quite well, when the rest of you who were never treated with the SR750 merely shun it? ......
I had a very different impression from early posts here with the SR750. I only recall Floridaguy and AnniefromMiami showing positive results, which appeared to me at around 25%. These were largely outnumbered by people like Billyboy who were disappointed with negligible results and a few who said it made their condition worse. Numerous claims of dramatic improvement (40%+ etc) were made prematurely (only a few weeks or even days after treatment) while swelling existed and were not sustained. True, it is early days for the SR1500, but it seems to be getting more consistent positive results here now extending to around 3 months post treatment. Anyhow, I am primarily following my derm's advice on Fraxel and personally I would not bother with the 750.
Can we please stop the bickering?
I've emphasised this before - I'm currently receiving treatment from the SR750. I can happily say (and again, touch wood) that the texture and complexion of my skin has improved 22 days post (first) fraxel. Admittedly, the significant peeling I experienced perhaps attributed to this, but at least something is happening. The scars are still there - under harsh lighting - but it's been well documented that one session will most likely not be sufficient enough to gauge any result. I'll give the SR750 one more try (this Friday) as to assess any improvement afterwards, if only subtle. If I feel discouraged in any way, I'll opt for the SR1500. No big deal, really.
None of us like our scars. Clinical studies suggests the SR1500 is the better option, but whichever route you take (or have already taken) I commend anyone here who are at least doing something about it.
I had a very different impression from early posts here with the SR750. I only recall Floridaguy and AnniefromMiami showing positive results, which appeared to me at around 25%. These were largely outnumbered by people like Billyboy who were disappointed with negligible results and a few who said it made their condition worse. Numerous claims of dramatic improvement (40%+ etc) were made prematurely (only a few weeks or even days after treatment) while swelling existed and were not sustained. True, it is early days for the SR1500, but it seems to be getting more consistent positive results here now extending to around 3 months post treatment. Anyhow, I am primarily following my derm's advice on Fraxel and personally I would not bother with the 750.
now that tabula rasa mentions this, this is the same impression i got from the posts (and i did read through this whole thread at one point!!! ack!).
people were saying they had great results with the 750 before the swelling went down, and then they came back and said they weren't happy after they saw the actual result. annie from miami had really good pictures that showed good results, but her scars were definitely rolling type scars -- i think she had six sessions?
anyhow, i just came back from a really really great consult/lecture with the office where i am going to get my fraxel done. they were talking about all types of anti-aging procedures and included fraxel in the discussion -- i was literally the only person there under 40, maybe even under 50! (and certainly the only person there concerned with acne scars.) an area fraxel rep was there and i got to have a good discussion with him about the laser. i also asked him about the difference with this and the fraxel re:pair that will be out in october, and he said because that one is ablative (like a CO2) he would definitely try fraxel 2 for acne scarring before considering the re:pair.
i am very excited to start my fraxel treatments and have the first one scheduled for june 13th! 🙂 the nurse practitioner who will do them, who i consulted with, said she normally starts at 35/40 for scarring and though she had not increased the mJ for spot treatments, she will do potentially 10 passes or so on the temple/forehead area and other places where I have deeper scarring. she hasn't gone up to 70 mJ with anyone because of the ablativeness and pin-prick bleeding that occurs at higher levels, but has gone up to 60 with the machine. the fraxel rep (this is after i already purchased the package offer) said he really thinks i will be very very happy with the results, since although my whole face is scarred, it's relatively shallow scarring and the treatment will really make a difference. he has also had that same nurse practitioner treat his daughter for acne scarring and said she really does a good job. i am psyched! 🙂 (plus as i mentioned earlier, the doc is doing a great special and i'm getting 5 treatments for $2500 since i signed up at the lecture. the rep said that the going rate they tell doctors (for anyone who doesn't know) is $1100, and the doctors choose how to set their prices.).
also i was wondering -- does anyone have an opinion on whether i can still use BHA/mandelic acid up until the treatment? i know not to use retinoids, but i am not sure about those...the rep thinks i might just want to be off of everything beforehand so it doesn't compromise my dermis.
wish me luck! 🙂 🙂 🙂
so i've been reading that the new fraxel is supposed to be really good for acne scars of all types... check out the photo gallery... click on "self run" skin resurfacing and on the top right corner there are arrows you click on to scan through pix... while you scan through, the case number shows on the top left corner. i found that case no. 39 was pretty impressive after just one treatment... it's an asian man who has several pock marks on both cheeks. it seems as though that many have blended with his skin. the next picture shows a close up. check it out!!! 🙂
wow -- i only just now looked at this slideshow of the resurfacing patients because i've seen so many of these photos before, and you're right -- #39 has incredible improvement after 1 treatment. you can really see how it helped the scarred pores he had -- it's like they are virtually erased! and you can even see improvement on the other scars...i would love to know what settings all of these treatments were at and would especially love to see pix for this one patient after more treatments!!!
Good Luck Bluemorpho, it sounds like you're in good hands and that's one amazing price. Make sure you add your fraxel settings to your signature, it really helps everyone see the levels. Can I ask where you live?
thanks sheryllynn!
i'm in maryland in the baltimore/washington d.c. metropolitan area.
i will definitely add settings, etc. to my signature, and post pictures once i start treatment and can figure out how to 🙂
Someone asked if I am still here and would comment on 750 vs 1500.
Honestly, I don't think I can say for sure that you will get a better results with SR 1500 but that is my expectation. I believe acne scars require greater depth that can be safely delivered only by the SR 1500. For other condsitons such as pigment and surface defectsand the like, you actually might get a better result from SR 750 as it tends to give better coverage, but less depth.
Intuitvely, however, I believe 1500 is better for deeper defects like scars. If scars are deep, then SR 1500 is probably essential. Mine have alwasy been classified as shallow. My doc spoke to other name docs who did not see much difference clinically so he decided not to upgrade, but he may change his mind and perhasp the feedback was not in respect of treating scars. Like i said, i can't say for sure that I got a much better result with 1500, but that would be my choice. If you go with 750 I think you need to be treated at 25 mjs or above and have shallow scarring. Fraxel worked ok and slowly. It was far from being a panacea.
Hope this helps
Not sure if this link has been posted here, but here are some pretty amazing before/afters (scroll down to bottom):
http://www.doctorskin.com.au/FraxelLaserTreatment.html
The only thing I don't like is the redness that everyone has in the afters... does anyone know, from personal experience or otherwise, if it fades over time?
Not sure if this link has been posted here, but here are some pretty amazing before/afters (scroll down to bottom):http://www.doctorskin.com.au/FraxelLaserTreatment.html
The only thing I don't like is the redness that everyone has in the afters... does anyone know, from personal experience or otherwise, if it fades over time?
I think redness depends very much on the person and the settings. I had my first fraxel (750) on Friday, so just too days ago, and by now the redness is almost gone. I cannot believe it myself. I was very red on Friday, a little red yesterday, today there is not much redness left at all anymore, it looks more like suntanned. I am still a bit swollen, though. I do not know exactly which settings the doctor used, but I know it was not deep, because he said I practically have only very shallow scars, indeed my enlarged pores are deeper than my scars, and thus there was no need to go too deep. I will ask him about the levels, though, and post them here, as well as results. Anyway, I hope my problems -pigmentation, enlarged pores, shallow scars- will improve with these settings, does anyone have experience regarding enlarged pores? I will ask him to go deeper the next time though, low settings for the first treatment was ok for me to see how my skin reacts and how I tolerate treatment, but next time I want more.
The difference:
Found it on this link: http://www.westsidemedicalspa.com/atom.xml
Two weeks ago, we upgraded our Fraxel laser to the Fraxel II.
The advantages are:
* more energy -> more effective treatments.
* less painful treatments because there is less microscopic heat damage to skin tissue.
* less risk of hyperpigmentation and other side effects because the treatments are more precise.
More effective, safer and less painful treatments means that we will have better results for difficult to treat conditions like acne scars and fine lines. The other advantage is that patients will not need as many sessions to achieve the results they desire!
I attended a Cosmetic Dermatology conference at the begining of November where the results from the upgraded Fraxel were demonstrated. It was very impressive.
We have treated about 10 patients so far with the new device and I have had nothing but encouraging feedback from Natalie and the other nurses using the machine, as well from the patients undergoing the treatments.
Hooray for progress!
Looking to annie of miami picture although it surely improves her scar .... she mentioned that she think she looses weight looking at her face more elongated after her third treatment .... does anybody here experience that other people comments that they look thinner because they have less chubby face considering many months after their last treatment of fraxel .... i always being commented to loose weight because of my lesser chubby cheeks (although i haven't really loose weight) considering i've only had two session of fraxel around 5 months ago ....