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Posted : 03/06/2007 5:46 pm

I've had 2 Fraxels so far and am scheduled for number three this Thursday. I got my first compliment today on my skin. I haven't told anyone that I know that I'm having Fraxel done. I wanted to see if anyone noticed without me having to say anything. I went to lunch with my mom today and she said "your skin looks really nice" I was like, "IT DOES, what do you mean?" She said it looked very clear and smoother. I was so happy. I don't see a difference so far, but I also stare at myself in the mirror everyday and probably wouldn't notice any slight changes as much as someone who hasn't seen me in a month. So maybe all this time, money and pain is going to be worth it after all!

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Posted : 03/06/2007 7:04 pm

I've had 2 Fraxels so far and am scheduled for number three this Thursday. I got my first compliment today on my skin. I haven't told anyone that I know that I'm having Fraxel done. I wanted to see if anyone noticed without me having to say anything. I went to lunch with my mom today and she said "your skin looks really nice" I was like, "IT DOES, what do you mean?" She said it looked very clear and smoother. I was so happy. I don't see a difference so far, but I also stare at myself in the mirror everyday and probably wouldn't notice any slight changes as much as someone who hasn't seen me in a month. So maybe all this time, money and pain is going to be worth it after all!

Congratulations! I'm happy to hear you're seeing positive results. I'm sure you'll see more soon!

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Posted : 03/06/2007 7:08 pm

I've had 2 Fraxels so far and am scheduled for number three this Thursday. I got my first compliment today on my skin. I haven't told anyone that I know that I'm having Fraxel done. I wanted to see if anyone noticed without me having to say anything. I went to lunch with my mom today and she said "your skin looks really nice" I was like, "IT DOES, what do you mean?" She said it looked very clear and smoother. I was so happy. I don't see a difference so far, but I also stare at myself in the mirror everyday and probably wouldn't notice any slight changes as much as someone who hasn't seen me in a month. So maybe all this time, money and pain is going to be worth it after all!

Thats great news and a good motivator. I have my second scheduled for next week, and like you have not mentioned it to anyone for the same reason, I want to see if anyone notices without being prompted to say something.

For those of you that have had multiple fraxels (annde, billyboy, 1cubsfan, et al), do you notice a line of demarcation or a distinct difference between your face and neck?

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Posted : 03/06/2007 8:48 pm

I've had 2 Fraxels so far and am scheduled for number three this Thursday. I got my first compliment today on my skin. I haven't told anyone that I know that I'm having Fraxel done. I wanted to see if anyone noticed without me having to say anything. I went to lunch with my mom today and she said "your skin looks really nice" I was like, "IT DOES, what do you mean?" She said it looked very clear and smoother. I was so happy. I don't see a difference so far, but I also stare at myself in the mirror everyday and probably wouldn't notice any slight changes as much as someone who hasn't seen me in a month. So maybe all this time, money and pain is going to be worth it after all!

Thats great news and a good motivator. I have my second scheduled for next week, and like you have not mentioned it to anyone for the same reason, I want to see if anyone notices without being prompted to say something.

For those of you that have had multiple fraxels (annde, billyboy, 1cubsfan, et al), do you notice a line of demarcation or a distinct difference between your face and neck?

 

None at all. :dance:

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Posted : 03/06/2007 9:34 pm

I have not experienced any lines of demarcation.

 

 

 

I've had 2 Fraxels so far and am scheduled for number three this Thursday. I got my first compliment today on my skin. I haven't told anyone that I know that I'm having Fraxel done. I wanted to see if anyone noticed without me having to say anything. I went to lunch with my mom today and she said "your skin looks really nice" I was like, "IT DOES, what do you mean?" She said it looked very clear and smoother. I was so happy. I don't see a difference so far, but I also stare at myself in the mirror everyday and probably wouldn't notice any slight changes as much as someone who hasn't seen me in a month. So maybe all this time, money and pain is going to be worth it after all!

 

Thats great news and a good motivator. I have my second scheduled for next week, and like you have not mentioned it to anyone for the same reason, I want to see if anyone notices without being prompted to say something.

 

For those of you that have had multiple fraxels (annde, billyboy, 1cubsfan, et al), do you notice a line of demarcation or a distinct difference between your face and neck?

 

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Posted : 03/06/2007 10:04 pm

No demarcation once the redness disappears.

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Posted : 03/06/2007 10:04 pm

I have not experienced any lines of demarcation.

 

I've had 2 Fraxels so far and am scheduled for number three this Thursday. I got my first compliment today on my skin. I haven't told anyone that I know that I'm having Fraxel done. I wanted to see if anyone noticed without me having to say anything. I went to lunch with my mom today and she said "your skin looks really nice" I was like, "IT DOES, what do you mean?" She said it looked very clear and smoother. I was so happy. I don't see a difference so far, but I also stare at myself in the mirror everyday and probably wouldn't notice any slight changes as much as someone who hasn't seen me in a month. So maybe all this time, money and pain is going to be worth it after all!

Thats great news and a good motivator. I have my second scheduled for next week, and like you have not mentioned it to anyone for the same reason, I want to see if anyone notices without being prompted to say something.

For those of you that have had multiple fraxels (annde, billyboy, 1cubsfan, et al), do you notice a line of demarcation or a distinct difference between your face and neck?

 

 

good news, thanks.....

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Posted : 03/07/2007 12:19 pm

I've had a couple people PM me about hyperpigmentation, so I figured I'd post my opinion on it in the public forum.

 

I think fraxel-produced hyperpigmentation has been blown a little out of propportion and is viewed as almost worse than scarring in this thread. Hyperpigmentation is essentially what's left over after the skin's inflammatory response has done its thing. So, generally, hyperpigmentation can occur after any injury to the skin and is not limited to fraxel. There's even a whole sub-forum dedicated to PIH caused by acne on these boards.

 

Please keep in mind that while none of us want to look weird (which is why we're doing stuff like this in the first place), hyperpigmentation is temporary and treatable (should go away in ~6 months for an average person and in less time if treated). Scars are decidedly not.

 

Fraxel causes hyperpigmentation when it bulk heats your skin (i.e. create collateral damage). The idea of fraxel is to create tiny cylindrical/conical holes in your skin that your body can quickly heal using surrounding healthy tissue. This quick healing essentially eliminates the side effect of hyperpigmentation. However, when it comes to acne scarring, these holes need to go fairly deep. The problem with going deep is that you need higher power. As the power rises, the likelihood of injuring skin (i.e. bulk heating) that wasn't intended to be injured increases, which means your body needs to put more effort into healing your skin. Since the healing takes longer, the inflammation lasts longer, which increases the risk of hyperpigmentation.

 

With all this in mind, remember that the Reliant engineers created a laser that can produce highly focused beams that don't bulk heat very much, and the Fraxel 2 has made improvements on the ability for the laser to focus the beam, which further reduces the risk of bulk heating.

 

If you add the initial safety of Fraxel with a pre-treatment course of hydroquinone (which basically prevents your skin from creating pigment), you should be pretty safe.

 

Of course, none of this is a guarantee and people react differently to fraxel and hydroquinone, so the risk still exists, however small.

 

One final disclaimer: I consider myself very well-versed in medicine and have done a lot of reading on Fraxel, but I am not a doctor nor did I go to med school. Please take everything I say with a grain of salt and use your doctor's opinion as the final word, not anything you read on this board.

 

If anyone sees any inaccuracies with what I wrote, please feel free to correct.

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Posted : 03/07/2007 8:03 pm

In September, my doctor did the same thing to me. I thought I was getting my 2nd round of Fraxel with him, but he had changed to the Palomar and didn't tell me about it. I went through 2 treatments before I found out. I was questioning it because I was getting a lot of pin point bleeding on my face, which I didn't have with the Fraxel. Someone on this board informed me my doctor probably wasn't using the real thing anymore. When I questioned him about it, he admitted it was the Palomar, but said it was just as good. I proceeded to get my money back, and changed doctors.

Hi #1clubsfan. Thnx for your response. I read your story about the Palomar laser. Even though it gave you pin point bleeding do you think the Palomar laser was effective? I had the laser about 9 hours ago and my face is just a bit swollen and red but nothing shocking. I don't have any pin point bleeding at all. I only had my cheeks done and the setting she used was 40mj (I have no idea how many passes). I have rolling scars, scared pores and discoloration because of a C02 laser spot treatment :rolleyes: (a year after a full face C02 resurfacing).

I read the pdf where the Palomar gets compared to the SR1500 SR1...white-paper.pdf . But this comparisement was done by reliant, so the bad palomar results aren't very surprising.

Anyway I will definitely confront her with this (although she probably has me convinced that this laser is better within minutes right now). And I will post my progress/results here.

 

Hi Loginnick,

You wouldn't happen to be in Illinois, would you? There was another doctor that worked with mine, and she was female too. Anyway, I don't know what my settings were from the Palomar. I didn't notice a difference for the first 2 months after the Palomar. In fact, there were a couple of new small scars. But I did notice an improvement after the 3rd month, and the newer scars were gone also. I can't say which laser is better, but in my experience with it, the Palomar just took longer to see positive results. Good luck to you, it probably will help you.

 

what kind of scars were the ones that u noticed after fraxel but then went away? were these scars or just scratches or redness?

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Posted : 03/07/2007 9:45 pm

In September, my doctor did the same thing to me. I thought I was getting my 2nd round of Fraxel with him, but he had changed to the Palomar and didn't tell me about it. I went through 2 treatments before I found out. I was questioning it because I was getting a lot of pin point bleeding on my face, which I didn't have with the Fraxel. Someone on this board informed me my doctor probably wasn't using the real thing anymore. When I questioned him about it, he admitted it was the Palomar, but said it was just as good. I proceeded to get my money back, and changed doctors.

Hi #1clubsfan. Thnx for your response. I read your story about the Palomar laser. Even though it gave you pin point bleeding do you think the Palomar laser was effective? I had the laser about 9 hours ago and my face is just a bit swollen and red but nothing shocking. I don't have any pin point bleeding at all. I only had my cheeks done and the setting she used was 40mj (I have no idea how many passes). I have rolling scars, scared pores and discoloration because of a C02 laser spot treatment :rolleyes: (a year after a full face C02 resurfacing).

I read the pdf where the Palomar gets compared to the SR1500 SR1...white-paper.pdf . But this comparisement was done by reliant, so the bad palomar results aren't very surprising.

Anyway I will definitely confront her with this (although she probably has me convinced that this laser is better within minutes right now). And I will post my progress/results here.

 

Hi Loginnick,

You wouldn't happen to be in Illinois, would you? There was another doctor that worked with mine, and she was female too. Anyway, I don't know what my settings were from the Palomar. I didn't notice a difference for the first 2 months after the Palomar. In fact, there were a couple of new small scars. But I did notice an improvement after the 3rd month, and the newer scars were gone also. I can't say which laser is better, but in my experience with it, the Palomar just took longer to see positive results. Good luck to you, it probably will help you.

 

what kind of scars were the ones that u noticed after fraxel but then went away? were these scars or just scratches or redness?

 

They were like small nicks on the skin. I noticed a few on my upper cheek and temple area. They weren't red at all, it was small indentations. They all did go away after about a month.

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Posted : 03/08/2007 4:51 am

I do not trust lasers!

though fraxel seems safe

evan for my skin type :dance:

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Posted : 03/08/2007 12:03 pm

well its been like 7 days since my first fraxel my face is pretty much back to normal.. heh weird at work someone said hey your face looks so refreshed what did you do

 

that was nice comment i guess

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Posted : 03/08/2007 1:30 pm

One month post my 5th fraxel. I do see some improvements, but my thought is most of it is cause of improved texture and not cause of scars filling in. The scars blend in with the rest of the skin so they are not that apparent anymore. I feel as time flies, the texture is gonna become rough again and everything is gonna be back to square one.

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Posted : 03/08/2007 1:50 pm

I am now about a week post my first fraxel, with some interesting observations. As a reminder, I did 40/6 on my left side and 20/6 on my right side with 4 passes on each side.

 

From a downtime standpoint, I'd have to say that I could've gone back to work the same day. I would've looked a little weird, but nothing too bad. Definitely, the next day, I could've been out and about and no one would've noticed a difference. On the third day, I did go out and none of my friends noticed anything. I had some minor peeling on my right side and have not really peeled on my left side.

 

My left side -- I would estimate that my scars look very slightly better. At this point, I don't actually know if it's still microswelling or not, so I will reserve judgement. My skin texture and color is only slightly improved (~10%), but there was a lot to improve on that end, so that was to be expected after only 1 treatment.

 

My right side -- My skin is very smooth, and I have definite improvement on scarred pores and superficial boxcars (10-15%). I wouldn't say all my scarred pores are improved, but definitely some of them are improved. I'm about 75% sure this is not microswelling because of the type of improvement and the level of treatment, but I will keep an eye on it as the days go by. To be more specific, my superficial boxcars are just as deep in the middle, but the edges are much smoother and blend into the skin. It's not a huge difference, but I definitely noticed it. Also, interestingly, I had one fresh shallow and narrow crevice-like scar from a cyst that had expunged 2 big blackheads about 3 days before my fraxel. I'd describe it almost like a non-bleeding open wound than a scar. Anyways, it appears that the fraxel has helped the healing of that scar. It is now much shallower and has been divided down the middle by new flesh. So I now have 2 shallower and smaller crevices.

 

Again, I am only a week post-fraxel, so I can't be sure that this isn't microswelling, but I have hunches that it's not. I will continue to monitor and post as the days go by.

 

Active acne -- Fraxel has killed some active acne, but did a lot less than I expected. Most of my pimples are still there, but just smaller. Fortunately, though, the treatment didn't cause any significant breakout (maybe a tiny pimple or two that went away in a day or two).

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Posted : 03/09/2007 1:55 am

I've had a couple people PM me about hyperpigmentation, so I figured I'd post my opinion on it in the public forum.

I think fraxel-produced hyperpigmentation has been blown a little out of propportion and is viewed as almost worse than scarring in this thread. Hyperpigmentation is essentially what's left over after the skin's inflammatory response has done its thing. So, generally, hyperpigmentation can occur after any injury to the skin and is not limited to fraxel. There's even a whole sub-forum dedicated to PIH caused by acne on these boards.

Please keep in mind that while none of us want to look weird (which is why we're doing stuff like this in the first place), hyperpigmentation is temporary and treatable (should go away in ~6 months for an average person and in less time if treated). Scars are decidedly not.

Fraxel causes hyperpigmentation when it bulk heats your skin (i.e. create collateral damage). The idea of fraxel is to create tiny cylindrical/conical holes in your skin that your body can quickly heal using surrounding healthy tissue. This quick healing essentially eliminates the side effect of hyperpigmentation. However, when it comes to acne scarring, these holes need to go fairly deep. The problem with going deep is that you need higher power. As the power rises, the likelihood of injuring skin (i.e. bulk heating) that wasn't intended to be injured increases, which means your body needs to put more effort into healing your skin. Since the healing takes longer, the inflammation lasts longer, which increases the risk of hyperpigmentation.

With all this in mind, remember that the Reliant engineers created a laser that can produce highly focused beams that don't bulk heat very much, and the Fraxel 2 has made improvements on the ability for the laser to focus the beam, which further reduces the risk of bulk heating.

If you add the initial safety of Fraxel with a pre-treatment course of hydroquinone (which basically prevents your skin from creating pigment), you should be pretty safe.

Of course, none of this is a guarantee and people react differently to fraxel and hydroquinone, so the risk still exists, however small.

One final disclaimer: I consider myself very well-versed in medicine and have done a lot of reading on Fraxel, but I am not a doctor nor did I go to med school. Please take everything I say with a grain of salt and use your doctor's opinion as the final word, not anything you read on this board.

If anyone sees any inaccuracies with what I wrote, please feel free to correct.

Very good response!

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Posted : 03/09/2007 10:05 pm

So if the Dr. were to use 40mj at a setting of 6 what would that equate to in MTZ and total MTZ's? Total meaning hoiw many passes?

 

I think they are starting to use 40 mj at level 6 for acne scars and slowly moving up levels but not energy. Seems like they are sticking to 40 mj.

 

This is for the newer generation fraxel SR 1500 so does anyone know what that equates to or you still set the MTZ as well as energy and level or does MTZ get set from the energy you set and level you set?

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Posted : 03/10/2007 10:43 am

Yes, could someone please tell us what levels 6,7,8,9 and 10 are in terms of total no. of MTZs/cm2.

Thanks

 

 

 

So if the Dr. were to use 40mj at a setting of 6 what would that equate to in MTZ and total MTZ's? Total meaning hoiw many passes?

 

I think they are starting to use 40 mj at level 6 for acne scars and slowly moving up levels but not energy. Seems like they are sticking to 40 mj.

 

This is for the newer generation fraxel SR 1500 so does anyone know what that equates to or you still set the MTZ as well as energy and level or does MTZ get set from the energy you set and level you set?

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Posted : 03/10/2007 4:21 pm

Ok, I have twice seen a treatment protocol sheet (table) for SR 1500 that illustrates mj settings and treatment levels for various conditions and also shows % coverage level, which is the best way to measure density. I believe (but don't know) that the coverage % presumes 8 passes. I also recall that 40mjs, level 10 produces about 29% coverage, with reducing coverage % for lower treatment levels.

 

Breakouts: I had superficial breakouts after 3 of my SR 750 treatments, which may be correlated to use of aquafor. This last time, I have gotten a few deeper nodules but nothing superficial, which is frustrating. It seems like at any given time I have 1 that is 95% healed, one that is 50%, and a new one starting. Fortunately, I have learned that heavy dabbing or Tretinoin on the lesion brings it to surface very quickly, even though deep, so they are healing ok with no scar. I do wonder whther the deeper penetration of the Sr 1500 raises the risk of deeper problesm. I'm curious is anyone else has noticed this.

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Posted : 03/10/2007 5:34 pm

This should answer a lot of the technical questions.

 

The Fraxel SR1500 Laser: Scientific and Clinical Advancements in the Field of Laser Resurfacing

https://reliant.webex.com/ec0507l/eventcent...siteurl=reliant

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Posted : 03/11/2007 4:14 am

Fraxel or any laser that claims to rid of acne scars. Burn Scars, Irregulart Scars etc . Also wrinkles and lines. SO many people lately are complaining that lasers and possibley fraxel laser of fat loss in the face area.

 

I am begining to wonder if this is true or not. I watched the 1 hour Streaming Video on Reliant's site posted between page 170-180 in this thread I don't have the link.

 

I saw the before and after Photos and it looked to me that Fraxel was being used moslty for Hyperpigmentation, Melasia and soemthing new for the upper Eye lid area that one Dr. observed. When they treated the orbital area it decreased the wrinkles but they also claimed and I could see it reduce the tired looking eyes. THis sounds to me liek the fraxel actually melted away fat from the eye area.

 

If it did that then why can't it reduce the fat in the cheek and other areas of the face.

 

I want soemone maybe FloridaGuy to comment on this. I know he has gotten Scrulpra to help plump up , but I wonder if its from the years of laser treatments that the Sculptra was necessary to compensate for the Fat loss?

 

Of course aging does cause a decrease fat tissue as well as other reasons. In theory I woudl think the heat the laser releases could cause the Fat over time to be reduced.

 

ANyhow anyone feel free to comment on this. Ic an tell you that the Syneron Polaris ELos laser did cause soem Fat loss in me and some more Scarring. I had almost 6 sessions of Sculptra to plump my Cheeks back up but still the Skin looks bad from the Syneron Laser.

 

I will admit the laser helped somwhat at the time of treatments just like everyone experienced here with different lasers. I now know this imporvement was from the temporary Adema caused by the laser.

 

Anyhow back to the issue of Fat loss caused by the Fraxel, Particularly the New Generation SR1500. Can anyone comment on this or is it still to soon for people to say?

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Posted : 03/11/2007 4:16 am

Fraxel or any laser that claims to rid of acne scars. Burn Scars, Irregulart Scars etc . Also wrinkles and lines. SO many people lately are complaining that lasers and possibley fraxel laser of fat loss in the face area.

 

I am begining to wonder if this is true or not. I watched the 1 hour Streaming Video on Reliant's site posted between page 170-180 in this thread I don't have the link.

 

I saw the before and after Photos and it looked to me that Fraxel was being used moslty for Hyperpigmentation, Melasia and soemthing new for the upper Eye lid area that one Dr. observed. When they treated the orbital area it decreased the wrinkles but they also claimed and I could see it reduce the tired looking eyes. THis sounds to me liek the fraxel actually melted away fat from the eye area.

 

If it did that then why can't it reduce the fat in the cheek and other areas of the face.

 

I want soemone maybe FloridaGuy to comment on this. I know he has gotten Scrulpra to help plump up , but I wonder if its from the years of laser treatments that the Sculptra was necessary to compensate for the Fat loss?

 

Of course aging does cause a decrease fat tissue as well as other reasons. In theory I woudl think the heat the laser releases could cause the Fat over time to be reduced.

 

ANyhow anyone feel free to comment on this. Ic an tell you that the Syneron Polaris ELos laser did cause soem Fat loss in me and some more Scarring. I had almost 6 sessions of Sculptra to plump my Cheeks back up but still the Skin looks bad from the Syneron Laser.

 

I will admit the laser helped somwhat at the time of treatments just like everyone experienced here with different lasers. I now know this imporvement was from the temporary Adema caused by the laser.

 

Anyhow back to the issue of Fat loss caused by the Fraxel, Particularly the New Generation SR1500. Can anyone comment on this or is it still to soon for people to say?

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Posted : 03/11/2007 7:38 am

Fraxel or any laser that claims to rid of acne scars. Burn Scars, Irregulart Scars etc . Also wrinkles and lines. SO many people lately are complaining that lasers and possibley fraxel laser of fat loss in the face area.

I am begining to wonder if this is true or not. I watched the 1 hour Streaming Video on Reliant's site posted between page 170-180 in this thread I don't have the link.

I saw the before and after Photos and it looked to me that Fraxel was being used moslty for Hyperpigmentation, Melasia and soemthing new for the upper Eye lid area that one Dr. observed. When they treated the orbital area it decreased the wrinkles but they also claimed and I could see it reduce the tired looking eyes. THis sounds to me liek the fraxel actually melted away fat from the eye area.

If it did that then why can't it reduce the fat in the cheek and other areas of the face.

I want soemone maybe FloridaGuy to comment on this. I know he has gotten Scrulpra to help plump up , but I wonder if its from the years of laser treatments that the Sculptra was necessary to compensate for the Fat loss?

Of course aging does cause a decrease fat tissue as well as other reasons. In theory I woudl think the heat the laser releases could cause the Fat over time to be reduced.

ANyhow anyone feel free to comment on this. Ic an tell you that the Syneron Polaris ELos laser did cause soem Fat loss in me and some more Scarring. I had almost 6 sessions of Sculptra to plump my Cheeks back up but still the Skin looks bad from the Syneron Laser.

I will admit the laser helped somwhat at the time of treatments just like everyone experienced here with different lasers. I now know this imporvement was from the temporary Adema caused by the laser.

Anyhow back to the issue of Fat loss caused by the Fraxel, Particularly the New Generation SR1500. Can anyone comment on this or is it still to soon for people to say?

Fraxel has been around for a few years now and I have never heard anything about fat loss, and I think billyboy, etc would have noticed it by now. Thermage was the treatment mainly that everyone complained about fat loss and it was noticed almost immediately after it came out, and I think the heat source/delivery was different. As treatments go deeper, I don't know if that will impact it, but fraxel2 has also been out since late summer with no complaints I've seen otherwise. Some lasers, erbium, CO2 impact the outer layer and never make it to the fat layer so I don't think they would have been harmful. Its a good thing to keep our eyes on though..

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Posted : 03/11/2007 12:16 pm

Fraxel or any laser that claims to rid of acne scars. Burn Scars, Irregulart Scars etc . Also wrinkles and lines. SO many people lately are complaining that lasers and possibley fraxel laser of fat loss in the face area.

I am begining to wonder if this is true or not. I watched the 1 hour Streaming Video on Reliant's site posted between page 170-180 in this thread I don't have the link.

I saw the before and after Photos and it looked to me that Fraxel was being used moslty for Hyperpigmentation, Melasia and soemthing new for the upper Eye lid area that one Dr. observed. When they treated the orbital area it decreased the wrinkles but they also claimed and I could see it reduce the tired looking eyes. THis sounds to me liek the fraxel actually melted away fat from the eye area.

If it did that then why can't it reduce the fat in the cheek and other areas of the face.

I want soemone maybe FloridaGuy to comment on this. I know he has gotten Scrulpra to help plump up , but I wonder if its from the years of laser treatments that the Sculptra was necessary to compensate for the Fat loss?

Of course aging does cause a decrease fat tissue as well as other reasons. In theory I woudl think the heat the laser releases could cause the Fat over time to be reduced.

ANyhow anyone feel free to comment on this. Ic an tell you that the Syneron Polaris ELos laser did cause soem Fat loss in me and some more Scarring. I had almost 6 sessions of Sculptra to plump my Cheeks back up but still the Skin looks bad from the Syneron Laser.

I will admit the laser helped somwhat at the time of treatments just like everyone experienced here with different lasers. I now know this imporvement was from the temporary Adema caused by the laser.

Anyhow back to the issue of Fat loss caused by the Fraxel, Particularly the New Generation SR1500. Can anyone comment on this or is it still to soon for people to say?

Fraxel has been around for a few years now and I have never heard anything about fat loss, and I think billyboy, etc would have noticed it by now. Thermage was the treatment mainly that everyone complained about fat loss and it was noticed almost immediately after it came out, and I think the heat source/delivery was different. As treatments go deeper, I don't know if that will impact it, but fraxel2 has also been out since late summer with no complaints I've seen otherwise. Some lasers, erbium, CO2 impact the outer layer and never make it to the fat layer so I don't think they would have been harmful. Its a good thing to keep our eyes on though..

 

I have not heard of fraxel causing fat loss. Thermage on the other hand has caused numerous cases on fatloss and its worth to note Thermage is different then fraxel. first off i believe Thermage uses radio frequency or something like that. and the laser you mentioned above Syneron Polaris ELos laser, this also uses radio frequency. So i think the problem is the Radio frequency, and i dont think fraxel uses this

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(@exequtioner)

Posted : 03/11/2007 1:55 pm

Hi im doing my first fraxel on tuesday this week (fraxel 1500) and im wondering

if it helps with active acne as the clinic claims? im considiring doing it on my back aswell.

Anyone has any experience in doing it on the back? Anything i should think on before treatment/

ask the doctor about? I have seriously thought on taking my life and feel really bad becouse of

this, could have been a model before accourding to others and now i cant look in the mirror...

Sorry for my poor english, any answers will be apreciated.

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(@jjp007)

Posted : 03/11/2007 3:00 pm

I have had no fat loss from any of my laser treatments.

 

I think that Smoothbeam is used more for active acne more then Fraxel. My doctor used both on a friend of mine. Fraxel has broken me out so you might ask for an antibiotic before starting a treatment if you are still breaking out (which I wasn't :confused: .

 

 

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