anyone looking for new pics of fraxel before and after for acne scars take a look at this site could be benifical

http://www.doctorskin.com.au/FraxelLaserTreatment.html

those pics look good

anyone looking for new pics of fraxel before and after for acne scars take a look at this site could be benifical

http://www.doctorskin.com.au/FraxelLaserTreatment.html

Everyone on these boards is going to flame those pictures so fast. Because they aren't taken inthe same angles, lighting, day, hour, temperature,clothing.

lmao, it was me who actually dug up those pictures in this thread from the near begining to middle, so i second claimed it and now a newbie comes in and reposts it, oh well, i'm not hating, but yea those pictures are amazing.

Hi All,

Just an update on second fraxel treatment. First few days I was much more swollen than the first time, almost freakishly so. Then bam, the swelling went down very quickly. What is weird is that after my first treatment my skin was very smooth for the first couple of weeks before my scars "came back" but this time they were back in less than a week. Don't know what that means. I am a little surprised as I was expecting it to be like the first time and I could enjoy looking at perfectly smooth skin for a while, but it didn't happen. Once the initial swelling was gone, the scars were back. I am sure I still have a little swelling since it has only been 1 1/2 weeks since my 2nd treatment, so results are hard to gauge, but so far, scars are getting shallower and smoother with each round. 2 more to go.

I'm a week past my third Fraxel treatment and though I am probably still a bit swollen I can tell a difference and my skin looks so much better. I can't wait until I am done with my last two!!! So far so good.

Nantynannie, I know what you mean about feeling like you look freakish when you are so very swollen but after third one it didnt' even bother me. I'm used to the couple days of downtime that it was a breeze. I know what you mean about loving your skin when it's a bit swollen. My fav is day 4 and 5 after a treatment.......skin looks perfect! I even had a guy selling me a new lcd TV at Best Buy tell me he thought I was 10 years younger then I am. Talk about a big compliment!

Good luck with your treatments and don't give up, these acne scars are teaching me great patience!!!

Anybody have an active pimple or cyst with Fraxel?

Going for my first Fraxel in two weeks and was wondering if Fraxel can be used over an active pimple or two without causing further scarring? I am on acne medication and mostly acne free but always seem to break out in a small area on my chin which by the way is in the scarred area that needs to be treated by Fraxel. I digress If any of you have actually had treatments over an active pimple or cyst I would like to hear your thoughts.

I notice in lots of the before/after pics, people having pronounced redness over the treated areas where they didn't necessarily have it before. Is that a permanent side effect? It looks almost like rosacea or something. I wonder if something like IPL and/or Polaris could help with that (and presumably the scarring)? I had red broken veins and IPL worked wonders...

I know some people report looking "like a red tomato" for six months up to a year after having CO2 or Erbium resurfacing, hopefully it is just a time thing.

Could some treated people comment if their redness has disappeared or atleast is fading?

I notice in lots of the before/after pics, people having pronounced redness over the treated areas where they didn't necessarily have it before. Is that a permanent side effect? It looks almost like rosacea or something.

Could some treated people comment if that redness disappears or not?

tell me about it. Red even after 3 months.

some peple get those after pics when there face is swelled up and it looks like the scars went away.then the swelling goes down and it looks like before.i might try it if it was cheeper but after wasting 3400 dollars on 2 thermages that made my face look worse...i doubt if this will work.if your collegen doesnt jump start after 2 of those painful treatments i dont know what would work.

Day 6 Fraxel2 Treatment#3

I've peeled yesterday(day 5). Skin is same as normal. I'm on month 3. Does anyone know when I can see improvements after this treatment? I am a bit discouraged right now. Overall I'm not seeing much improvement. I'm wondering if I'm a good candidate for this and I don't know why my skin isn't responding well like others.

Ralphie: I noticed you are updating results so soon. I acted the same way before but you shouldn't get too excited. I think you still have some microswelling. Good Luck.

Hi All,

Just an update on second fraxel treatment. First few days I was much more swollen than the first time, almost freakishly so. Then bam, the swelling went down very quickly. What is weird is that after my first treatment my skin was very smooth for the first couple of weeks before my scars "came back" but this time they were back in less than a week. Don't know what that means. I am a little surprised as I was expecting it to be like the first time and I could enjoy looking at perfectly smooth skin for a while, but it didn't happen. Once the initial swelling was gone, the scars were back. I am sure I still have a little swelling since it has only been 1 1/2 weeks since my 2nd treatment, so results are hard to gauge, but so far, scars are getting shallower and smoother with each round. 2 more to go.

Nantynannie,

I noticed from your signature that your doctor is varying your mJ and treatment density in the same visit. Looks like he/she is attacking your scars from all angles. Do you know how many passes at each mJ you are getting?

any suggestions on reducing redness?

Hi All,

Just an update on second fraxel treatment. First few days I was much more swollen than the first time, almost freakishly so. Then bam, the swelling went down very quickly. What is weird is that after my first treatment my skin was very smooth for the first couple of weeks before my scars "came back" but this time they were back in less than a week. Don't know what that means. I am a little surprised as I was expecting it to be like the first time and I could enjoy looking at perfectly smooth skin for a while, but it didn't happen. Once the initial swelling was gone, the scars were back. I am sure I still have a little swelling since it has only been 1 1/2 weeks since my 2nd treatment, so results are hard to gauge, but so far, scars are getting shallower and smoother with each round. 2 more to go.

Nantynannie,

I noticed from your signature that your doctor is varying your mJ and treatment density in the same visit. Looks like he/she is attacking your scars from all angles. Do you know how many passes at each mJ you are getting?

 

TROUBLED,

The variations are because she changed it for different areas, which I should have specified to avoid confusion. Cheeks, perioral and forehead. First treatment was cheeks at 35/cm2 level 8, perioral and forehead at 25/cm2 level 6. 2nd treatment was cheeks and perioral at 40/cm2 level 10, and forehead at 25/cm2 level 10. Does that make sense? She made so many passes that I could not keep track even after I told myself I was going to count and just when I thought for sure she was done with a certain area, she would keep going and make another pass or two or three...

any suggestions on reducing redness?

Aveno Ultra-Calming Moisturizing Cream. A little expensive, but worth it. It does not clog pores and works practically overnight for reducing the redness. Also a great moisturizer. I started using it on the 4th day or so after my second treatment, after the sensitivity was gone and I have been happy with it so far.

Day 6 Fraxel2 Treatment#3

I've peeled yesterday(day 5). Skin is same as normal. I'm on month 3. Does anyone know when I can see improvements after this treatment? I am a bit discouraged right now. Overall I'm not seeing much improvement. I'm wondering if I'm a good candidate for this and I don't know why my skin isn't responding well like others.

Ralphie: I noticed you are updating results so soon. I acted the same way before but you shouldn't get too excited. I think you still have some microswelling. Good Luck.

MZ:

Have you been taking pictures? I know that you posted a few a while back. Just wondering if you have compared your first before pics to your recent pics lately. You might see some changes that will keep you encouraged.

Day 6 Fraxel2 Treatment#3

I've peeled yesterday(day 5). Skin is same as normal. I'm on month 3. Does anyone know when I can see improvements after this treatment? I am a bit discouraged right now. Overall I'm not seeing much improvement. I'm wondering if I'm a good candidate for this and I don't know why my skin isn't responding well like others.

Ralphie: I noticed you are updating results so soon. I acted the same way before but you shouldn't get too excited. I think you still have some microswelling. Good Luck.

MZ:

Have you been taking pictures? I know that you posted a few a while back. Just wondering if you have compared your first before pics to your recent pics lately. You might see some changes that will keep you encouraged.

 

NO. I haven't yet. I still think its too soon for pics. I should wait out until my next appointment (~3-4 weeks). But I really don't believe in this treatment right now. All my scars and large pores are still there. I can see my scars in the mirror and I wish that I were wrong. I hope to see some improvements soon. Most of all I'm hoping that I'm not wasting time. How can we all deal with this problem everyday. I'm really tired of myself and this problem. I really want my life back. I'm thinking what would be next if Fraxel doesn't work (Co2 etc...)??

I also notice my skin gets less and less microswelling compared to 1st treatment. Unlike the 1st treatment, after I peeled my scars look less noticeable for 1-2 days before it went away. Its different w/ 2nd and 3rd treatment, I see my scars right away.

Day 6 Fraxel2 Treatment#3

I've peeled yesterday(day 5). Skin is same as normal. I'm on month 3. Does anyone know when I can see improvements after this treatment? I am a bit discouraged right now. Overall I'm not seeing much improvement. I'm wondering if I'm a good candidate for this and I don't know why my skin isn't responding well like others.

Ralphie: I noticed you are updating results so soon. I acted the same way before but you shouldn't get too excited. I think you still have some microswelling. Good Luck.

MZ:

Have you been taking pictures? I know that you posted a few a while back. Just wondering if you have compared your first before pics to your recent pics lately. You might see some changes that will keep you encouraged.

 

NO. I haven't yet. I still think its too soon for pics. I should wait out until my next appointment (~3-4 weeks). But I really don't believe in this treatment right now. All my scars and large pores are still there. I can see my scars in the mirror and I wish that I were wrong. I hope to see some improvements soon. Most of all I'm hoping that I'm not wasting time. How can we all deal with this problem everyday. I'm really tired of myself and this problem. I really want my life back. I'm thinking what would be next if Fraxel doesn't work (Co2 etc...)??

I also notice my skin gets less and less microswelling compared to 1st treatment. Unlike the 1st treatment, after I peeled my scars look less noticeable for 1-2 days before it went away. Its different w/ 2nd and 3rd treatment, I see my scars right away.

 

MZ,

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you've been saying, but it sounds like you are expecting full elimination of your scars: "All my scars and large pores are still there." If that's the case, I think your expectations are a little too high.

zonk: I don't think my expectation is high. You think what you want from my comment. I'll take photos of my progress. I might post them on here for you guys to decide. I'm not gonna complain like last time on here ne more.

I updated my sig below, as I had a session today.

MZ: I did not see much improvement for months. And, to my surprise not even the smallest scars were eliminated, just softened. Also, as I Pmed you, don't expect much improvment in excision scars if the issue is lost tissue. I had restylane in my worst excision scar and it worked perfectly to add the volume, but was temporary and expensive so I did not repeat. Fraxel did not help it. I would shy away from CO2 and ablative lasers due to risks and downtime. Better to make steady progress than strik out hitting for the fence.

Troubled, I would appreciate any comments on my treatment, as per sig. I can not understand why the KJs are not more proportional to mj nergy, but no matter, maybe they altered treatment area also. I will have 3 more ( a fraxel rep will be at next one, hopefully). In my first set of 4 I was hoping for 40% improvement, but got maybe 15% on scars, but nice result to skin. I am hoping these additional 4 will eventually get me to that 40% goal, if not 50%.

Best wishes to my fellow fraxels.

Also, I notice 4 small whitish/grayish patches on my otherwise red face, which I don't recall from prior treatments. I sure hope this is not a pigment problem in the bud. Any thoughts?

I updated my sig below, as I had a session today.

MZ: I did not see much improvement for months. And, to my surprise not even the smallest scars were eliminated, just softened. Also, as I Pmed you, don't expect much improvment in excision scars if the issue is lost tissue. I had restylane in my worst excision scar and it worked perfectly to add the volume, but was temporary and expensive so I did not repeat. Fraxel did not help it. I would shy away from CO2 and ablative lasers due to risks and downtime. Better to make steady progress than strik out hitting for the fence.

Troubled, I would appreciate any comments on my treatment, as per sig. I can not understand why the KJs are not more proportional to mj energy, but no matter, maybe they altered treatment area also. I will have 3 more ( a fraxel rep will be at next one, hopefully). In my first set of 4 I was hoping for 40% improvement, but got maybe 15% on scars, but nice result to skin. I am hoping these additional 4 will eventually get me to that 40% goal, if not 50%.

Best wishes to my fellow fraxels.

Hey Billy,

I will attempt to answer your question about kJ in more detail tonight when I have more time. About your sig, your total kJ is off the charts so there is little efficacy data to compare with at those treatment levels. I would talk to your doc about the white patches. I haven't heard of anyone developing hypo from Fraxel but it wouldn't hurt to have him take a closer look, especially considering the amazingly high kJ levels you are getting. Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to make sure your doctor has a fire extinguisher on hand at your next treatment. We wouldn't want your face to catch fire 😆

On drive home I realized that my jaws & molars hurt. Then, I realized it was from gritting my teeth during Fraxel. Shyone posted some high KJs also and I suspect I have more surface area.

Unlike others, I have never seen an immediate benefit or even a quick benefit. To me, it evolves very slowly. One concern is whether the next treatment burns some of the newly induced collagen. Time will tell.

Hi All,

Just an update on second fraxel treatment. First few days I was much more swollen than the first time, almost freakishly so. Then bam, the swelling went down very quickly. What is weird is that after my first treatment my skin was very smooth for the first couple of weeks before my scars "came back" but this time they were back in less than a week. Don't know what that means. I am a little surprised as I was expecting it to be like the first time and I could enjoy looking at perfectly smooth skin for a while, but it didn't happen. Once the initial swelling was gone, the scars were back. I am sure I still have a little swelling since it has only been 1 1/2 weeks since my 2nd treatment, so results are hard to gauge, but so far, scars are getting shallower and smoother with each round. 2 more to go.

Nantynannie,

I noticed from your signature that your doctor is varying your mJ and treatment density in the same visit. Looks like he/she is attacking your scars from all angles. Do you know how many passes at each mJ you are getting?

 

TROUBLED,

The variations are because she changed it for different areas, which I should have specified to avoid confusion. Cheeks, perioral and forehead. First treatment was cheeks at 35/cm2 level 8, perioral and forehead at 25/cm2 level 6. 2nd treatment was cheeks and perioral at 40/cm2 level 10, and forehead at 25/cm2 level 10. Does that make sense? She made so many passes that I could not keep track even after I told myself I was going to count and just when I thought for sure she was done with a certain area, she would keep going and make another pass or two or three...

 

Yes, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. I always enjoy reading your posts and look forward to hearing your results.

Billy,

In answer to your questions about kJ. Total kJ is directly proportional to the concentration of mJ layed down on the face (think density) not only mJ/cm2. Also, mJ/cm2 is not necessarily proportionate by a given fluence either. For example, when comparing mJ to penetration depth with the SR 750 we know that it reaches a depth of about 350 microns at 8 mj per pulse and 750 microns at 20 mj per pulse. As you can see it takes about 1 1/2 times the fluence level to reach only slightly more than double the penetration depth. This is due to a variety of outside factors involving laser physics i.e dispersion, absorption, scattering, ect. All this has an effect on total kJ. In short, the more aggressive the treatments get the greater the degradation is of fluence and consequently total kJ even though the final kJ is higher. Hopefully this makes sense.