Notifications
Clear all

Dr H Consult; 'Blunt cannula is a joke'

MemberMember
67
(@samsadleir)

Posted : 08/18/2021 4:29 pm

According to this guy, Dr Hussein in London. Blunt cannula doesn't do shit, it doesn't cut any scarring, the only thing that it does is give temporary improvement from the filler alone. He claims adamantly that a blunt cannula is totally worthless and doesn't actually do anything under your skin, all the scar tethers are still 100% in tact. How true is this claim? I recently had first cannula subcision, and I definitely experienced resistance and breaking of that resistance with a sort of faint crunchy noise that seemed to indicate to me that some tethers were cut.

can anyone debunk this? Link to video here

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSuNl2ZqFoA/

Quote
MemberMember
892
(@shei514)

Posted : 08/18/2021 9:30 pm

4 hours ago, JudgmentPuzzleheaded said:

According to this guy, Dr Hussein in London. Blunt cannula doesn't do shit, it doesn't cut any scarring, the only thing that it does is give temporary improvement from the filler alone. He claims adamantly that a blunt cannula is totally worthless and doesn't actually do anything under your skin, all the scar tethers are still 100% in tact. How true is this claim? I recently had first cannula subcision, and I definitely experienced resistance and breaking of that resistance with a sort of faint crunchy noise that seemed to indicate to me that some tethers were cut.

can anyone debunk this? Link to video here

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSuNl2ZqFoA/

I cant debunk that claim but I have been seeing some of his work and its pretty impressive. But most people say hes not that good and his results are mediocre at best. Its all a lighting trick with him. So I wouldnt really trust anything he has to say TBH (and I get the impression he plays the lighting trick more than other dermatologists).

will be interesting to see what others have to say about his claim.

Quote
newisal97, Amanda Hall, newisal97 and 3 people reacted
MemberMember
735
(@amanda-hall)

Posted : 08/18/2021 9:55 pm

8 minutes ago, shei514 said:

I cant debunk that claim but I have been seeing some of his work and its pretty impressive. But most people say hes not that good and his results are mediocre at best. Its all a lighting trick with him. So I wouldnt really trust anything he has to say TBH (and I get the impression he plays the lighting trick more than other dermatologists).

will be interesting to see what others have to say about his claim.

I've heard the exact same thing. He has bad reviews like many other doctors but I'll give him credit for his really good cases. Dr. H does aggressive work that other doctors don't/aren't able to do.

First of all, this isn't the first video Dr. H has done about cannula subcision. In a previous one, he called doctors "idiots" for thinking cannulas can do the job as well as sharper tools such as the Taylor Liberator. I found this a little unprofessional but I also welcomed his side of his story. I don't really care about a doctor's choice of words or bedside manneras long as he/she has the skills to achieve the goals you want. Is he right though? I don't know as I only had subcision done once.

Overall, patients need to be able to bear the risks of their treatments.... sadly. Many people pay lots of money and get no improvement, then complain. Otherscomplain when doctors are too aggressive and worsen their skin. It's really hard in the scar treatment industry to get it perfect. Most will say it's best so play it conservatively and then work your way up. There are some who just want to hit a home run without wasting time, and this is where someone like Dr. H comes in.

I don't know enough about Dr. H and all of his results and prices so I hope people can contribute to this thread.

Quote
shei514, shei514 and shei514 reacted
MemberMember
80
(@downinthedms)

Posted : 08/20/2021 12:15 am

This is exactly what I've been screaming about in my post about Dr Hazany. There is way too much misinformation about acne scarring and this is because 99.99% of the doctors treating acne scarring (who are dermatologists and not dermatologic surgeons) don't have the skills to perform taylor liberator subcision hence they tout stuff like blunt cannula subcision/lasers/creams/you name it. I can't speak to the abilities of Dr. H but TL subcision is pretty much the only thing that gave me improvement on my deeply anchored scarring and yes it did cause me numbing for almost 1 month until later. Good to see a doctor who explained it way better than I ever could.

Quote
MemberMember
21
(@wish-we-could-go-back-in-time)

Posted : 08/20/2021 5:44 am

He didn't mention Nokor needle, is it a joke as well?

Quote
0
(@Anonymous)

Posted : 08/20/2021 6:03 am

The problem is usually not that the cannula is wortless which is ridiculous. If it didnt cut the tethers how come I and so many who have had the procedure hear the popping sound of tethers being cut? It is not the tethers which are your problem, it is the atrophy underneath. No TL can take care of that. The best one can do is get subcisions in the hope that the indury in the deeper layers will stimulate the healing powers hence depositing more collagen and lifting the scar. The instrument doesnt matter, better go with cannula when cannula can do the job. Doctors switched from nokor to cannula for a reason and it is not becauase they cannot do a tumescent and poke the TL in different directionsunderneath the skin. It is because TL and Nokor cause much more complications which sometimes take months to resolve. Many examples for that.

Also the doctors who perform TL subcision usually do as if the havemastereda hell of a difficult technique and are the only ones who can do it (not true) and use this an an excuse to charge more.

Quote
MemberMember
657
(@miro)

Posted : 08/20/2021 10:34 am

Dr H is joke , his before afters are joke , playing with light like Steven Spielberg . If some1 is critical on IG cause of damage Full ablation laser or TLhas done to his face , he starts to call this one a liar. Also i had spoken to few people via PM and they suffer from side effects of Dr H treatment , but not many people want to argue publicly with Dr.Why even to do it ? Damage is done and of course dr ignores em or says its their bad healing , they simply went to some1 else to repair the damage, also there are few people i spoke to that they have great results , but the risk is very high with thosetype of treatment , i doubt its worth it. But people are desperate and they see few befores afters under yummy lightning and ..

Quote
MemberMember
11
(@scarwarrior)

Posted : 09/25/2021 2:58 am

Blunt cannula had two key advantages.

1) Being blunt, it creates more trauma under the tissue rather than a perfect cut.More trauma = more inflammation > more collagen

2) Itallows the doctor to be more aggressive than worrying about cutting blood vesselsor other tissue so they can destroy tethers more completely. They can contribute until they hear no more sounds, even if you are swollen and they cant see the details any more

Quote
MemberMember
11
(@trueromance093)

Posted : 12/19/2021 8:16 pm

On 20.08.2021 at 01:15, downinthedms said:

Dr Hazany hakkindaki yazimda haykirdigim sey tam olarak buydu. Sivilce izleri hakkinda cok fazla yanlis bilgi var ve bunun nedeni sivilce izlerini tedavi eden doktorlarin (dermatologlar ve dermatolojik cerrahlar degil) %99,99'unun taylor liberator subsizyon yapma becerisine sahip olmamasi ve bu nedenle kunt kanul kesilmesi gibi seyler lanse etmeleridir. lazerler/kremler/adini sen koy. Dr. H'nin yetenekleriyle konusamam ama TL subsizyon, derine sabitlenmis yara izimde iyilesme saglayan tek seydi ve evet, daha sonraya kadar neredeyse 1 ay boyunca uyusmama neden oldu. Bunu benden cok daha iyi aciklayan bir doktor gormek guzel.

Is the swelling after the treatment completely gone? Are you still satisfied with the results?

Quote
MemberMember
10
(@astralscarecrow)

Posted : 02/03/2022 10:07 pm

It's not really true that just because it's not sharp you can't cut something with it. You just need enough pressure. Also, maybe the skin is more difficult to penetrate with the cannulathan the fibers? Maybe the fibers are weaker.

I watched another video of his where he talks about hyperpigmentation but I admit I'm skeptical about the claims in this video.

Quote