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We don't use the roller anymore on the face, it causes microtearing - great for the body though. In fact I suggest a device like the derminator as it's more effective and cheaper after you factor in bent needles, replacing them, and different length. Yes that is typical of microneedling unless you do peels and subcision. Microneedling is not the top choice of scar revision, it just helps with the process of healing / regeneration / upkeep.
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@Tano1 Hi there I know you study and research a lot from your posts. Why don't you start a post on the acne scar sub on microneedling info, it would be great to hear all your research and opinions, I think it will help alot of people. We always can use the content. I agree many use the microneedles / stamps wrong as you said.
I understand the complete opposite based on mechanics and research, watch this. Lots of misinfo out there.
Take a look at this too (I know there are some crappy made stamps/ microneedles out there, I had pins come out of one and another had bent needles which are hard to see):
http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermaroller-review/
Quite a long post. Many discuss why the pen is not good and made poorly. You get what you pay for in life.
https://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/359068-the-derminator-thread/
I did see Sarah Vaughter posting on another forum from essential day spa that has dates from 2013. She didn't sound very motivated by the advancement, but rather the money. It's nice to see that a better product came of it at least.
That's some good information and I myself wondered if the tears are caused because of the time the needles spend inside the skin on the downward state. Add motion to that and I can understand the microtearing effect.
I think the thread starter should be you haha. I can't start a thread until I've tried the product first, which I will because I'm going to order it.
Dude the derminator does work, you have very minor issues. There is no micotearing with it, youtube it to see. For your type of scarring you could see a improvement. These generalizations above are because they had massive scarring. Do TCA peels and Derminator alternate and you can get some improvement off that. Derminating is a slower process and is gradual. One has to do it over time. You will do best with the peels, the miconeedling can be used on your individual scars.
If your set on Infini RF put a treatment on a credit card per year and do it slowly, or use care credit, health saving account Drs offices and med spas offer.
I just went to town on my face with the single needle for the 1st time at 2.25mm at max speed. I normally use the 9 needles but I now prefer the single needle as long as I have the time. I'll try to post some pics to see if tearing can be seen. They will be taken with a 50MP camera so it will be the next best thing to a microscope. I did this less than 24 hours ago so hopefully its not too early or too late for pics.
single needle derminator 2.25mm max speed 20 hours later. Thats all the blood I could get off without wiping it hard.
Thank you. These are before I had anything professional done in 2013. I think Id have a lot more improvement if I drank more water which is what Im trying to do right this moment. Im not gonna show any real after pics until march 2018 bc that will be 1 year after my 1st 35% tca peel and using the derminator pretty often. If only I could make my face swollen all the time without the bruising or blood lol.
its hard to tell bc it takes so long to heal. like the person who started this thread and claimed they only got 10-15% improvement over 2 months didnt give their body enough time to heal and create more collagen and should not have been able to even use the derminator more than 3 times bc they should have been waiting at least 4 weeks between using it. 10-15% improvement after 2 months actually sounds amazing. People are just very lazy, have no patience or are not realistic about what they are doing. If you are going to improve your scars it has to become a lifestyle. If its not then its like going to the gym a week or month then stopping bc you dont look like arnold.
I dont know what kind of scarring you have so what works for me may be useless to you. I absolutely had to have bellafil bc I had so much tissue loss and my face was never going to be full or fat bc Im not going to let myself get fat for that to happen. Id only do bellafil as your final procedure. I want to get subcision again and see if theres anyway I can get filler right afterwards to keep the scars from just tethering right back down.
I really never noticed that much improvement bc its so hard to see my scars in a mirror. even in my before pic I could barely see them at all.
I would use the derminator and TCA for a year before getting anything professional done. Theres no 1 procedure they are going to do for you thats going to change the way you look unless you have tethered scars and the subcision responds very well. 1 syringe of bellafil will not be enough for anyone who has real scarring. if you are rich you can just get temporary filler done every 6 months and look like a movie star. I spent like 2500 on filler before my sister's wedding 2 years ago plus 3,000 on bellafil and couldnt notice a single scar in any pics. The pic below was before her wedding in september 2015.
