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so i have used it awhile back to see if it improved my icepick scars and others but i dont remember how long i used it or if i seen a improvement but im pretty sure it probably did helped but now im going to start using it again and let you guys know if it really work or not for the first month
also im gonna be going for punch excision feb 17 so im sure it will help with the healing process and give it a extra boost so stay tune
#nobodyleftbehind lol
so i have used it awhile back to see if it improved my icepick scars and others but i dont remember how long i used it or if i seen a improvement but im pretty sure it probably did helped but now im going to start using it again and let you guys know if it really work or not for the first month
also im gonna be going for punch excision feb 17 so im sure it will help with the healing process and give it a extra boost so stay tune
#nobodyleftbehind lol
Is it from Skin Biology? I recently got their souped up version as well, but it ain't a serum but a liquid form. I got it on eBay, so not quite sure I got the real deal. I can tell you that it smells like crap though. What's more, when you apply it after you pulverized your face with a roller, man, it hurts like hell!
BTW why punch excision? I read someone commenting in the Fractora thread that punch method is old school. 
so i have used it awhile back to see if it improved my icepick scars and others but i dont remember how long i used it or if i seen a improvement but im pretty sure it probably did helped but now im going to start using it again and let you guys know if it really work or not for the first month
also im gonna be going for punch excision feb 17 so im sure it will help with the healing process and give it a extra boost so stay tune
#nobodyleftbehind lol
Is it from Skin Biology? I recently got their souped up version as well, but it ain't a serum but a liquid form. I got it on eBay, so not quite sure I got the real deal. I can tell you that it smells like crap though. What's more, when you apply it after you pulverized your face with a roller, man, it hurts like hell!
BTW why punch excision? I read someone commenting in the Fractora thread that punch method is old school.
i read somewhere on realself from doctors that said lasers wouldnt work on icepick scars because of the walls around it,
basically from what i research so far lasers basically melt your skin down like a exfoliate but much deeper of layers
and also i read punch excision is the best treatment because it completely removes the whole ice pick scar , even if it is a old school method you see fraxel repair lasers which isnt old school and it doesnt even help people with there scars from stories i read so everyone skin has different results i guess
Sirius lee please dont listen to leadingforce. He doesn't know what he is talking about. First off fractora is not a laser. Its microneedling combined with radio frequency technology. Leading force has his head on the gutter and needs to do his research.
Its 2014 punch exicision is old school and not nesscasary. there are modern methods that are better and less risky . I've been on the boards for years and read countless excision horror stories. Don't become one of them
Sirius lee please dont listen to leadingforce. He doesn't know what he is talking about. First off fractora is not a laser. Its microneedling combined with radio frequency technology. Leading force has his head on the gutter and needs to do his research.
Its 2014 punch exicision is old school and not nesscasary. there are modern methods that are better and less risky . I've been on the boards for years and read countless excision horror stories. Don't become one of them
http://www.co2fracionado.com.br/artigos/J-Cosmet-Laser.pdf and http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/14764172.2013.854633
I recently convinced my plastic surgeon (know him personally) to perform CO2 laser pinpoint irradiation on me (basically the laser only hits the scar) based on those scientific journals, and the results have been amazing on the one scar i spot tested it with. It was done on my worst ice pick scar and in 2 months it's gotten 55-60% shallower! This new treatment that I discovered spares all the healthy skin and targets only the scar. Your thoughts?
Sirius lee please dont listen to leadingforce. He doesn't know what he is talking about. First off fractora is not a laser. Its microneedling combined with radio frequency technology. Leading force has his head on the gutter and needs to do his research.
Its 2014 punch exicision is old school and not nesscasary. there are modern methods that are better and less risky . I've been on the boards for years and read countless excision horror stories. Don't become one of them
http://www.co2fracionado.com.br/artigos/J-Cosmet-Laser.pdf and http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/14764172.2013.854633
I recently convinced my plastic surgeon (know him personally) to perform CO2 laser pinpoint irradiation on me (basically the laser only hits the scar) based on those scientific journals, and the results have been amazing on the one scar i spot tested it with. It was done on my worst ice pick scar and in 2 months it's gotten 55-60% shallower! This new treatment that I discovered spares all the healthy skin and targets only the scar. Your thoughts?
That sounds fantastic. They should be doing this pin point method for ever
Sirius lee please dont listen to leadingforce. He doesn't know what he is talking about. First off fractora is not a laser. Its microneedling combined with radio frequency technology. Leading force has his head on the gutter and needs to do his research.
Its 2014 punch exicision is old school and not nesscasary. there are modern methods that are better and less risky . I've been on the boards for years and read countless excision horror stories. Don't become one of them
thats funny because in 2013-14 ps still recommend punch excision for ice pick scars rather then lasers in some case and yes im talking about lasers not your micro needling , just because u been on the board for years and read " countless " excision horror stories probably like a couple doesnt mean anything also u been on the board for years and is still trying to treat your scars keep that in mind so u shouldnt be ignorant towards it
Sirius lee please dont listen to leadingforce. He doesn't know what he is talking about. First off fractora is not a laser. Its microneedling combined with radio frequency technology. Leading force has his head on the gutter and needs to do his research.
Its 2014 punch exicision is old school and not nesscasary. there are modern methods that are better and less risky . I've been on the boards for years and read countless excision horror stories. Don't become one of them
thats funny because in 2013-14 ps still recommend punch excision for ice pick scars rather then lasers in some case and yes im talking about lasers not your micro needling , just because u been on the board for years and read " countless " excision horror stories probably like a couple doesnt mean anything also u been on the board for years and is still trying to treat your scars keep that in mind so u shouldnt be ignorant towards it
FYI I've been on here for years but only started to treat my scars in Aug 2013. Im on the right track of being acne snce scar free while you experience failed exicision procedures. If you were to actually do some research and not speak on behalf of ignorance maybe you would be on the right track.....just
maybe
Sirius lee please dont listen to leadingforce. He doesn't know what he is talking about. First off fractora is not a laser. Its microneedling combined with radio frequency technology. Leading force has his head on the gutter and needs to do his research.
Its 2014 punch exicision is old school and not nesscasary. there are modern methods that are better and less risky . I've been on the boards for years and read countless excision horror stories. Don't become one of them
thats funny because in 2013-14 ps still recommend punch excision for ice pick scars rather then lasers in some case and yes im talking about lasers not your micro needling , just because u been on the board for years and read " countless " excision horror stories probably like a couple doesnt mean anything also u been on the board for years and is still trying to treat your scars keep that in mind so u shouldnt be ignorant towards it
FYI I've been on here for years but only started to treat my scars in Aug 2013. Im on the right track of being acne snce scar free while you experience failed exicision procedures. If you were to actually do some research and not speak on behalf of ignorance maybe you would be on the right track.....just
maybe
i didnt experience any failed excision because i havent started but ill be sure to prove you wrong soon since u hate think punch excision is old school and still isnt good enough thats ignorance 
http://www.realself.com/review/edison-nj-acne-scars-treatment-going-for-excision-punch-excision-and-silicone someone who had good results
so the test tca cross results from ps
scab fell off today which is 1 week now and it look little wider and worst maybe because its really red idk but it filled up by i would say 50-60% but it still looks terrible and its only week so ps said give it atleast a month before i come back and check hoping it would fill more lets see though
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[Removed]this is my scars on the left side i want to treat and also right side above ^
copy paste to see
doesnt look that bad probably because my camera or the lighting OR because i just did a clay mask then took a picture right after lol
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