Unfortunately, no topicals will get rid of scarring, no matter how mild. Products with Retin-A in them will help to speed skin turnover and in turn make your skin more thick/healthy and any redness should disappear. But for actual scarring or enlarged pores no topical will fix that for you. There are products that claim to do that but they are bogus.

I think most with this type of problem refer to it as having scarred pores. There are methods that may help which are not technically surgical (invasive). Light chemical peels, microdermabrasion, the home-use Dermaroller, to name a few. Personally the only improvement I have seen in my pores has come from my professional Dermaroller treatments.

I hope you find something that works for you!

Unfortunately, no topicals will get rid of scarring, no matter how mild. Products with Retin-A in them will help to speed skin turnover and in turn make your skin more thick/healthy and any redness should disappear. But for actual scarring or enlarged pores no topical will fix that for you. There are products that claim to do that but they are bogus.

I think most with this type of problem refer to it as having scarred pores. There are methods that may help which are not technically surgical (invasive). Light chemical peels, microdermabrasion, the home-use Dermaroller, to name a few. Personally the only improvement I have seen in my pores has come from my professional Dermaroller treatments.

I hope you find something that works for you!

 

Thanks for the reply! I have a question though, the methods you had named, the Retin-A, Light Chemical Peels, and Microdermabrasion. Are the purpose of these methods to exfoliate the skin? Because I actually exfoliate everyday such as scrubbing my skin a bit in the showers and then putting on lemon juice with a bit of honey and yogurt. Also, I do a egg white peel once a week with tissue paper. I know these methods are simple and is not as effective as the actual treatments you had named but wouldn't I be getting the same results but in a longer period of time in the end?

Also, I had done a bit of research on dermarolling and it seemed promising until I read a comment made on youtube about it. The person said something like " the dermaroller is actually creating more scar tissue to make the surrounding scar tissue look more even" or something like that. I'm not sure how exactly dermarolling works but what he said seemed to make sense and I don't think I want to create more scar tissue if this is true. Also, can you tell me if this is true: I heard that with dermarolling, you will never achieve a perfect texture since you are actually damaging the skin with dermarolling.

Really curious about the answers to those questions! Thanks!

EDIT: Also to add, I started mildly scrubbing my skin about 2 and a half months ago and started the lemon mask and egg peel 2 weeks ago. I've had these stretched pores for about 8 months + and today they do seem to look less shallow then they were before, though it could be all in my head haha.

Unfortunately, no topicals will get rid of scarring, no matter how mild. Products with Retin-A in them will help to speed skin turnover and in turn make your skin more thick/healthy and any redness should disappear. But for actual scarring or enlarged pores no topical will fix that for you. There are products that claim to do that but they are bogus.

I think most with this type of problem refer to it as having scarred pores. There are methods that may help which are not technically surgical (invasive). Light chemical peels, microdermabrasion, the home-use Dermaroller, to name a few. Personally the only improvement I have seen in my pores has come from my professional Dermaroller treatments.

I hope you find something that works for you!

 

Thanks for the reply! I have a question though, the methods you had named, the Retin-A, Light Chemical Peels, and Microdermabrasion. Are the purpose of these methods to exfoliate the skin? Because I actually exfoliate everyday such as scrubbing my skin a bit in the showers and then putting on lemon juice with a bit of honey and yogurt. Also, I do a egg white peel once a week with tissue paper. I know these methods are simple and is not as effective as the actual treatments you had named but wouldn't I be getting the same results but in a longer period of time in the end?

Also, I had done a bit of research on dermarolling and it seemed promising until I read a comment made on youtube about it. The person said something like " the dermaroller is actually creating more scar tissue to make the surrounding scar tissue look more even" or something like that. I'm not sure how exactly dermarolling works but what he said seemed to make sense and I don't think I want to create more scar tissue if this is true. Also, can you tell me if this is true: I heard that with dermarolling, you will never achieve a perfect texture since you are actually damaging the skin with dermarolling.

Really curious about the answers to those questions! Thanks!

EDIT: Also to add, I started mildly scrubbing my skin about 2 and a half months ago and started the lemon mask and egg peel 2 weeks ago. I've had these stretched pores for about 8 months + and today they do seem to look less shallow then they were before, though it could be all in my head haha.

 

What the person said about creating more scar tissue is essentially true for any type of scar treatment. The purpose of most acne scar treatments is to "damage" the underlying tissue to trigger collagen synthesis to fill in the scar. With dermarolling, you are basically pricking the skin with hundreds of needles. This of course is causing damage to the skin, though you can't really tell other than being red. The thought is this damaged skin then sends signals to repair the damage which in turn creates new collagen. It is a very slow process.

Unfortunately, no topicals will get rid of scarring, no matter how mild. Products with Retin-A in them will help to speed skin turnover and in turn make your skin more thick/healthy and any redness should disappear. But for actual scarring or enlarged pores no topical will fix that for you. There are products that claim to do that but they are bogus.

I think most with this type of problem refer to it as having scarred pores. There are methods that may help which are not technically surgical (invasive). Light chemical peels, microdermabrasion, the home-use Dermaroller, to name a few. Personally the only improvement I have seen in my pores has come from my professional Dermaroller treatments.

I hope you find something that works for you!

 

Thanks for the reply! I have a question though, the methods you had named, the Retin-A, Light Chemical Peels, and Microdermabrasion. Are the purpose of these methods to exfoliate the skin? Because I actually exfoliate everyday such as scrubbing my skin a bit in the showers and then putting on lemon juice with a bit of honey and yogurt. Also, I do a egg white peel once a week with tissue paper. I know these methods are simple and is not as effective as the actual treatments you had named but wouldn't I be getting the same results but in a longer period of time in the end?

Also, I had done a bit of research on dermarolling and it seemed promising until I read a comment made on youtube about it. The person said something like " the dermaroller is actually creating more scar tissue to make the surrounding scar tissue look more even" or something like that. I'm not sure how exactly dermarolling works but what he said seemed to make sense and I don't think I want to create more scar tissue if this is true. Also, can you tell me if this is true: I heard that with dermarolling, you will never achieve a perfect texture since you are actually damaging the skin with dermarolling.

Really curious about the answers to those questions! Thanks!

EDIT: Also to add, I started mildly scrubbing my skin about 2 and a half months ago and started the lemon mask and egg peel 2 weeks ago. I've had these stretched pores for about 8 months + and today they do seem to look less shallow then they were before, though it could be all in my head haha.

 

What the person said about creating more scar tissue is essentially true for any type of scar treatment. The purpose of most acne scar treatments is to "damage" the underlying tissue to trigger collagen synthesis to fill in the scar. With dermarolling, you are basically pricking the skin with hundreds of needles. This of course is causing damage to the skin, though you can't really tell other than being red. The thought is this damaged skin then sends signals to repair the damage which in turn creates new collagen. It is a very slow process.

 

Oh I see, thanks for the informative reply. I have a few questions though, exactly how easy can I damage the underlying tissue? Can scrubbing and exfoliating at home be enough to damage the underlying tissue? An example I have would be scratching your skin with your nails until you see a red line and moments later it would turn red, would this be considered damaging the skin and enough to create new collagen? I'm curious as to how easy and how much "damage" I have to do to the skin,particularly the face, until collagen can be created.

I have Asian skin and its pale looking, not dark, if that helps your response. Thanks!

Unfortunately, no topicals will get rid of scarring, no matter how mild. Products with Retin-A in them will help to speed skin turnover and in turn make your skin more thick/healthy and any redness should disappear. But for actual scarring or enlarged pores no topical will fix that for you. There are products that claim to do that but they are bogus.

I think most with this type of problem refer to it as having scarred pores. There are methods that may help which are not technically surgical (invasive). Light chemical peels, microdermabrasion, the home-use Dermaroller, to name a few. Personally the only improvement I have seen in my pores has come from my professional Dermaroller treatments.

I hope you find something that works for you!

 

Thanks for the reply! I have a question though, the methods you had named, the Retin-A, Light Chemical Peels, and Microdermabrasion. Are the purpose of these methods to exfoliate the skin? Because I actually exfoliate everyday such as scrubbing my skin a bit in the showers and then putting on lemon juice with a bit of honey and yogurt. Also, I do a egg white peel once a week with tissue paper. I know these methods are simple and is not as effective as the actual treatments you had named but wouldn't I be getting the same results but in a longer period of time in the end?

Also, I had done a bit of research on dermarolling and it seemed promising until I read a comment made on youtube about it. The person said something like " the dermaroller is actually creating more scar tissue to make the surrounding scar tissue look more even" or something like that. I'm not sure how exactly dermarolling works but what he said seemed to make sense and I don't think I want to create more scar tissue if this is true. Also, can you tell me if this is true: I heard that with dermarolling, you will never achieve a perfect texture since you are actually damaging the skin with dermarolling.

Really curious about the answers to those questions! Thanks!

EDIT: Also to add, I started mildly scrubbing my skin about 2 and a half months ago and started the lemon mask and egg peel 2 weeks ago. I've had these stretched pores for about 8 months + and today they do seem to look less shallow then they were before, though it could be all in my head haha.

 

What the person said about creating more scar tissue is essentially true for any type of scar treatment. The purpose of most acne scar treatments is to "damage" the underlying tissue to trigger collagen synthesis to fill in the scar. With dermarolling, you are basically pricking the skin with hundreds of needles. This of course is causing damage to the skin, though you can't really tell other than being red. The thought is this damaged skin then sends signals to repair the damage which in turn creates new collagen. It is a very slow process.

 

Oh I see, thanks for the informative reply. I have a few questions though, exactly how easy can I damage the underlying tissue? Can scrubbing and exfoliating at home be enough to damage the underlying tissue? An example I have would be scratching your skin with your nails until you see a red line and moments later it would turn red, would this be considered damaging the skin and enough to create new collagen? I'm curious as to how easy and how much "damage" I have to do to the skin,particularly the face, until collagen can be created.

I have Asian skin and its pale looking, not dark, if that helps your response. Thanks!

 

Yes and no to the exfoliating question. What you want to do is thicken the dermis and cause the outer most skin to "turn over" quickly. Retin-A is great for this but it takes time. Microdermabrasions speed the process up but not by a huge amount. Home-use Dermarollers are only good for product penetration and NOT collagen formation, but they will improve the penetration of your creams. If your pores are actually scarred then you will need a more invasive procedure.

The part about the Dermaroller creating more scar tissue is completely bogus and I urge you to not even bother reading the comments section of Youtube. Trolls and idiots galore. Always good to check if you're not sure about something though. The Dermaroller creates "micro wounds" deep in the skin which promote the production of collagen. The Dermaroller is TRICKING your body into thinking that it needs to repair a wound, thus creating more collagen. It's safe, it's natural and can be used on any skin colour/type. There is no damage to the outer most layers of your skin, which is the best part. If your face is scarred then perfect skin is usually out of the picture, no matter what treatment options or how much money you have. Tis the sad truth but that doesn't mean that treatments won't improve your quality of life. I have had 3 professional Dermaroller treatments and have seen awesome improvements in my scarring. I have 3 more sessions to go and I am excited!

To answer your question about how deep you need to go... 1.5mm which doesn't seem like much but it is! No, scratching/scrubbing your face would not help induce collagen, no matter how much pressure you applied. In fact you'd risk further scarring. I really think you should read the information on the OFFICIAL Dermaroller websites (www.dermaroller.de). Stay away from cheap copies.

Unfortunately, no topicals will get rid of scarring, no matter how mild. Products with Retin-A in them will help to speed skin turnover and in turn make your skin more thick/healthy and any redness should disappear. But for actual scarring or enlarged pores no topical will fix that for you. There are products that claim to do that but they are bogus.

I think most with this type of problem refer to it as having scarred pores. There are methods that may help which are not technically surgical (invasive). Light chemical peels, microdermabrasion, the home-use Dermaroller, to name a few. Personally the only improvement I have seen in my pores has come from my professional Dermaroller treatments.

I hope you find something that works for you!

 

Thanks for the reply! I have a question though, the methods you had named, the Retin-A, Light Chemical Peels, and Microdermabrasion. Are the purpose of these methods to exfoliate the skin? Because I actually exfoliate everyday such as scrubbing my skin a bit in the showers and then putting on lemon juice with a bit of honey and yogurt. Also, I do a egg white peel once a week with tissue paper. I know these methods are simple and is not as effective as the actual treatments you had named but wouldn't I be getting the same results but in a longer period of time in the end?

Also, I had done a bit of research on dermarolling and it seemed promising until I read a comment made on youtube about it. The person said something like " the dermaroller is actually creating more scar tissue to make the surrounding scar tissue look more even" or something like that. I'm not sure how exactly dermarolling works but what he said seemed to make sense and I don't think I want to create more scar tissue if this is true. Also, can you tell me if this is true: I heard that with dermarolling, you will never achieve a perfect texture since you are actually damaging the skin with dermarolling.

Really curious about the answers to those questions! Thanks!

EDIT: Also to add, I started mildly scrubbing my skin about 2 and a half months ago and started the lemon mask and egg peel 2 weeks ago. I've had these stretched pores for about 8 months + and today they do seem to look less shallow then they were before, though it could be all in my head haha.

 

What the person said about creating more scar tissue is essentially true for any type of scar treatment. The purpose of most acne scar treatments is to "damage" the underlying tissue to trigger collagen synthesis to fill in the scar. With dermarolling, you are basically pricking the skin with hundreds of needles. This of course is causing damage to the skin, though you can't really tell other than being red. The thought is this damaged skin then sends signals to repair the damage which in turn creates new collagen. It is a very slow process.

 

Oh I see, thanks for the informative reply. I have a few questions though, exactly how easy can I damage the underlying tissue? Can scrubbing and exfoliating at home be enough to damage the underlying tissue? An example I have would be scratching your skin with your nails until you see a red line and moments later it would turn red, would this be considered damaging the skin and enough to create new collagen? I'm curious as to how easy and how much "damage" I have to do to the skin,particularly the face, until collagen can be created.

I have Asian skin and its pale looking, not dark, if that helps your response. Thanks!

 

Yes and no to the exfoliating question. What you want to do is thicken the dermis and cause the outer most skin to "turn over" quickly. Retin-A is great for this but it takes time. Microdermabrasions speed the process up but not by a huge amount. Home-use Dermarollers are only good for product penetration and NOT collagen formation, but they will improve the penetration of your creams. If your pores are actually scarred then you will need a more invasive procedure.

The part about the Dermaroller creating more scar tissue is completely bogus and I urge you to not even bother reading the comments section of Youtube. Trolls and idiots galore. Always good to check if you're not sure about something though. The Dermaroller creates "micro wounds" deep in the skin which promote the production of collagen. The Dermaroller is TRICKING your body into thinking that it needs to repair a wound, thus creating more collagen. It's safe, it's natural and can be used on any skin colour/type. There is no damage to the outer most layers of your skin, which is the best part. If your face is scarred then perfect skin is usually out of the picture, no matter what treatment options or how much money you have. Tis the sad truth but that doesn't mean that treatments won't improve your quality of life. I have had 3 professional Dermaroller treatments and have seen awesome improvements in my scarring. I have 3 more sessions to go and I am excited!

To answer your question about how deep you need to go... 1.5mm which doesn't seem like much but it is! No, scratching/scrubbing your face would not help induce collagen, no matter how much pressure you applied. In fact you'd risk further scarring. I really think you should read the information on the OFFICIAL Dermaroller websites (www.dermaroller.de). Stay away from cheap copies.

 

Thanks so much for that reply. Since dermarolling has no drawbacks and it's safe an natural, I assume everyone should give it a shot, correct? I have a question though, why can't dermarolling at home create collagen to form? Because if I do plan on using a dermaroller, I would want to do it at home since I my scarring is very shallow and only in 2 areas. I saw a video on you tube (

) where he explained that a 0.5mm dermaroller would be enough to create collagen which I think would be ok for me, what do you think? I'm glad the dermarolling is working out for you!

EDIT: Also, if you have time, please take a look at the video and tell me what you think and if anything you find/ think is bogus! Thanks!

The reason the home Dermaroller does not induce collagen formation is because it does not penetrate into the deeper layers of the skin. There is a trade-off though, especially for very shallow scarring, and that is that the home Dermaroller will help improve the penetration of your collagen enhancing creams (due to the microchannels left behind after a treatment, they close within around an hour). So, you really have nothing to lose by trying it.

Again, I don't read anything on Youtube. I take the advice of my treatment professional and the advice on the genuine Dermaroller website. I did watch the video though and I think these guys seem to be very popular and what he is saying does make sense, however he is not using the genuine Dermaroller, but a copy product. All my research is based on the genuine German-made Dermaroller and the only home use roller they provide is 0.2mm, anything longer is done by a professional. So it's entirely possible that your skin may respond really well to a 0.5mm roller. If you feel confident in trying it then why not?

My biggest advice though: If you plan to choose a roller that is not made from medical grade materials (like the genuine Dermaroller) then please scrutinise the entire product. How strong are the needles, will they bend and cause scarring? How well are the needles set into the roller? You don't want them coming out mid treatment. How do you sanitise it? When should you throw it away and buy a new one? But most of all, more needles is not the way to go. Look for a roller with the smallest number of needles (the original Dermaroller has 192). More needles means it will be harder for you to get them to penetrate your skin without having to apply unnecessary pressure.

Good luck!

The reason the home Dermaroller does not induce collagen formation is because it does not penetrate into the deeper layers of the skin. There is a trade-off though, especially for very shallow scarring, and that is that the home Dermaroller will help improve the penetration of your collagen enhancing creams (due to the microchannels left behind after a treatment, they close within around an hour). So, you really have nothing to lose by trying it.

Again, I don't read anything on Youtube. I take the advice of my treatment professional and the advice on the genuine Dermaroller website. I did watch the video though and I think these guys seem to be very popular and what he is saying does make sense, however he is not using the genuine Dermaroller, but a copy product. All my research is based on the genuine German-made Dermaroller and the only home use roller they provide is 0.2mm, anything longer is done by a professional. So it's entirely possible that your skin may respond really well to a 0.5mm roller. If you feel confident in trying it then why not?

My biggest advice though: If you plan to choose a roller that is not made from medical grade materials (like the genuine Dermaroller) then please scrutinise the entire product. How strong are the needles, will they bend and cause scarring? How well are the needles set into the roller? You don't want them coming out mid treatment. How do you sanitise it? When should you throw it away and buy a new one? But most of all, more needles is not the way to go. Look for a roller with the smallest number of needles (the original Dermaroller has 192). More needles means it will be harder for you to get them to penetrate your skin without having to apply unnecessary pressure.

Good luck!

 

Thanks for the reply. Overall, would you recommend anyone to use a 0.5mm roller at home? I will use it very cautiously and at the right times, giving my skin enough time to heal up before a next treatment. How frequent would you say would be Ok to use it?Thanks for those questions you had listed for me to consider. I have thought about a few of them like the sanitizing one and the number of needles one. Also, through out your researches, did you come across any posts on dermarolling actually scarring a patient or a user even if they used it properly? Like what did they do wrong to have made it scar them or was dermarolling just not meant for them/ their skin? My biggest fear is actually scarring the skin and I have pale Asian skin. (original skin tone) Thanks for the reply's, they are much appreciated!

The reason the home Dermaroller does not induce collagen formation is because it does not penetrate into the deeper layers of the skin. There is a trade-off though, especially for very shallow scarring, and that is that the home Dermaroller will help improve the penetration of your collagen enhancing creams (due to the microchannels left behind after a treatment, they close within around an hour). So, you really have nothing to lose by trying it.

Again, I don't read anything on Youtube. I take the advice of my treatment professional and the advice on the genuine Dermaroller website. I did watch the video though and I think these guys seem to be very popular and what he is saying does make sense, however he is not using the genuine Dermaroller, but a copy product. All my research is based on the genuine German-made Dermaroller and the only home use roller they provide is 0.2mm, anything longer is done by a professional. So it's entirely possible that your skin may respond really well to a 0.5mm roller. If you feel confident in trying it then why not?

My biggest advice though: If you plan to choose a roller that is not made from medical grade materials (like the genuine Dermaroller) then please scrutinise the entire product. How strong are the needles, will they bend and cause scarring? How well are the needles set into the roller? You don't want them coming out mid treatment. How do you sanitise it? When should you throw it away and buy a new one? But most of all, more needles is not the way to go. Look for a roller with the smallest number of needles (the original Dermaroller has 192). More needles means it will be harder for you to get them to penetrate your skin without having to apply unnecessary pressure.

Good luck!

 

Thanks for the reply. Overall, would you recommend anyone to use a 0.5mm roller at home? I will use it very cautiously and at the right times, giving my skin enough time to heal up before a next treatment. How frequent would you say would be Ok to use it?Thanks for those questions you had listed for me to consider. I have thought about a few of them like the sanitizing one and the number of needles one. Also, through out your researches, did you come across any posts on dermarolling actually scarring a patient or a user even if they used it properly? Like what did they do wrong to have made it scar them or was dermarolling just not meant for them/ their skin? My biggest fear is actually scarring the skin and I have pale Asian skin. (original skin tone) Thanks for the reply's, they are much appreciated!

 

I think the reason the original Dermaroller has a home-use device of only 0.2mm is because anything longer than this can cause pain/discomfort. The great thing about Dermarolling is that it can be used on any skin tone and any skin type. The professional who does my treatments told me about patients that have been coming to her after damaging their skin with other rollers. She said that the scarring looks like "track marks" and that you can clearly see where the roller had been. I'm sure this is the minority of cases and that the people who end up damaging their skin were those who rushed into it and didn't educate themselves on how to use it properly.

You seem like you know what you're doing though. You're asking the right questions and you're not rushing into things. I can't tell you how often to use it or whether to go for the 0.5mm roller though as I personally wouldn't do it myself. I know there are others on this forum who have been using rollers at home. They might be able to answer your more specific questions/concerns.