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(@panos)

Posted : 07/09/2013 5:51 pm

@golfpanther.

Colloidal silver works on even 3rd degree burns.I dont know if it will help with extensive scarring.

People report results with it .They also report results from using 302 skin care products line.(they contain avogen found only in avocado).

I report results for little scars by rubbing avocado on the scars..

Dont forget who you are and where you are coming from.

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(@schmoond)

Posted : 07/10/2013 2:45 pm

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

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(@panos)

Posted : 07/10/2013 4:58 pm

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

Good news.When this becomes available,i am gonna ty it with dermastamping.

Thing is we have to know that this is bioavailable and friendly for the skin.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 07/10/2013 7:14 pm

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

Awesome find! Good to hear straight from the source on how things are progressing. I'd like to get my hands on the magazine to see their proposed timeline. I actually have two in-laws that got their Ph.D there but they weren't engineering students. I wonder if I can get them to request a copy. Also, interestingly they claim to be getting e-mails about the transition to humans at least once a week. I guess the interest is pretty strong, which is a good thing when it comes to investments. :)

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 07/10/2013 7:42 pm

Hey panos,

This is not an attack on you, but with regards to evidence, please read this.

http://fyeahdawkins.tumblr.com/post/3199597781/richard-dawkins-letter-to-his-ten-year-old-daughter

@golfpanther.

Colloidal silver works on even 3rd degree burns.I dont know if it will help with extensive scarring.

People report results with it .They also report results from using 302 skin care products line.(they contain avogen found only in avocado).

I report results for little scars by rubbing avocado on the scars..

Dont forget who you are and where you are coming from.

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(@panos)

Posted : 07/10/2013 8:56 pm

 

Hey panos,

This is not an attack on you, but with regards to evidence, please read this.

http://fyeahdawkins.tumblr.com/post/3199597781/richard-dawkins-letter-to-his-ten-year-old-daughter

@golfpanther.

Colloidal silver works on even 3rd degree burns.I dont know if it will help with extensive scarring.

People report results with it .They also report results from using 302 skin care products line.(they contain avogen found only in avocado).

I report results for little scars by rubbing avocado on the scars..

Dont forget who you are and where you are coming from.

Seabs, Dont forget who you are and where you are coming from.

Love :D

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(@maldition)

Posted : 07/12/2013 9:56 am

This document says something about the release date in veterinary? do not really understand the English language

 

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

Good news.When this becomes available,i am gonna ty it with dermastamping.

Thing is we have to know that this is bioavailable and friendly for the skin.

I would like to know how this would work in humans hydrogel that level as the body react in tgf growth factors b1, b2, b3

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(@panos)

Posted : 07/12/2013 10:47 am

This document says something about the release date in veterinary? do not really understand the English language

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

Good news.When this becomes available,i am gonna ty it with dermastamping.

Thing is we have to know that this is bioavailable and friendly for the skin.

 

 

I would like to know how this would work in humans hydrogel that level as the body react in tgf growth factors b1, b2, b3

It doesnt go into detail.It just says it may first becoe available for veterinary use after the pig studies.

Also it says,that they dont have a clue about its working mechanisms.

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 07/12/2013 11:24 am

Is this coming out any soon? Pls.. Im really kinda desperate lol.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 07/12/2013 3:41 pm

This document says something about the release date in veterinary? do not really understand the English language

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

Good news.When this becomes available,i am gonna ty it with dermastamping.

Thing is we have to know that this is bioavailable and friendly for the skin.

 

 

I would like to know how this would work in humans hydrogel that level as the body react in tgf growth factors b1, b2, b3

This document says something about the release date in veterinary? do not really understand the English language

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

Good news.When this becomes available,i am gonna ty it with dermastamping.

Thing is we have to know that this is bioavailable and friendly for the skin.

 

 

I would like to know how this would work in humans hydrogel that level as the body react in tgf growth factors b1, b2, b3

The article says that the timeline is in the magazine for their engineering school that's released bi-yearly. I'm going to look into getting my hands on it.

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 07/13/2013 9:22 pm

 

This document says something about the release date in veterinary? do not really understand the English language

 

 

 

 

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

 

Good news.When this becomes available,i am gonna ty it with dermastamping.

Thing is we have to know that this is bioavailable and friendly for the skin.

 

I would like to know how this would work in humans hydrogel that level as the body react in tgf growth factors b1, b2, b3

This document says something about the release date in veterinary? do not really understand the English language

 

 

 

 

http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-healing-gel-could-soon-be-commercialized-for-veterinary-use/ this was published yesterday and I thought it was pretty interesting (:

 

Good news.When this becomes available,i am gonna ty it with dermastamping.

Thing is we have to know that this is bioavailable and friendly for the skin.

 

I would like to know how this would work in humans hydrogel that level as the body react in tgf growth factors b1, b2, b3

The article says that the timeline is in the magazine for their engineering school that's released bi-yearly. I'm going to look into getting my hands on it.

Tell us if you do get your hands on it :)

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(@panos)

Posted : 07/14/2013 12:51 pm

from the fb page

http://eng.jhu.edu/wse/magazine-summer-13/item/healing-wonders-of-hydrogel/

Let me doubt the word ''biomaterial''.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 07/14/2013 1:18 pm

Good web page

''The main chemical ingredient here is a form of sugar currently used in bread, and which has been used clinically since the 1940s with a long safety record.''

any know how is the name of that sugar?

from the fb page

http://eng.jhu.edu/wse/magazine-summer-13/item/healing-wonders-of-hydrogel/

Let me doubt the word ''biomaterial''.

From that interview

''anticipate seeing hydrogel being used clinically in pre-approved trials on humans within 18 to 24 months

Gerecht and her team are also working on forms of hydrogel that are infused with various forms of human stem cells in an effort to trigger the bodys power to regenerate blood vessels.

There is still much work that must be done before we can make it work the way we want it to. But I think we are on the right track. Gerechts work is funded in part by the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation''

My opinion is

Why they want to try different things? Why would add things like stem cells? do not understand why complicate things. should first projected sales shows the hydrogel simple, and then see if they can improve.

I do not know why the articles is undated. I want to see the date of this interview so after two years to see if they fulfill the promise of human testing

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 07/15/2013 8:30 am

"In fact, Tolfree posits that if the upcoming pig studies turn out to be as promising as Gerecht expects, the hydrogel could be on the market for veterinary/animal use within six to 18 months. He expects that the gel will be valuable in hard-to-treat canine and feline wounds and skin conditions, as well as in slow-to-heal equine hoof and lower leg wounds, among other things."

That sounds a lot like the currently available product from OTR3 which is also used to speed up wound healing...and not to regenerate skin. But we'll see.

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 07/15/2013 12:49 pm

Good web page

''œThe main chemical ingredient here is a form of sugar currently used in bread, and which has been used clinically since the 1940s with a long safety record.''

¿any know how is the name of that sugar?

from the fb page

http://eng.jhu.edu/wse/magazine-summer-13/item/healing-wonders-of-hydrogel/

Let me doubt the word ''biomaterial''.

 

 

From that interview

''anticipate seeing hydrogel being used clinically in pre-approved trials on humans within 18 to 24 months

Gerecht and her team are also working on forms of hydrogel that are infused with various forms of human stem cells in an effort to trigger the body™s power to regenerate blood vessels.

There is still much work that must be done before we can make it work the way we want it to. But I think we are on the right track. Gerecht™s work is funded in part by the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation''

My opini³n is

Why they want to try different things? Why would add things like stem cells? do not understand why complicate things. should first projected sales shows the hydrogel simple, and then see if they can improve.

 

 

I do not know why the articles is undated. I want to see the date of this interview so after two years to see if they fulfill the promise of human testing

The article that was originally posted here was dated as July 9th, 2013 and referred to the magazine article that it linked to as being released in the summer edition of the engineering school's magazine. Since it's a bi-yearly released magazine, I think it's safe to assume it was written sometime between January 1st of this year to sometime in June.

Regarding their use of stem cells; that's what they originally set out to test so I'm guessing they still want to pursue that course of action and their funding might even be dependent on it since that was what originally was proposed by Gerecht's team. The results the hydrogel achieved by itself were unprecedented and unexpected. Plus, why not continue your research into stem cells in case the hydrogel needs something extra to be as effective in humans as it was in mice.

Lapis, in terms of using it for slow to heal wounds and on cats and dogs for skin conditions, I'd imagine that's the best way to show it's efficacy in those animals. I mean, it's not like animals go into their dermatologist asking for a chemical peel, dermarolling and new wound healing tech for cosmetic reasons. For animals, those conditions are the ones that are available to treat in that market. Testing is one thing; burn a mouse and apply it to see what it can do. But we're talking about making money on pets so they'll use the hydrogel to treat the conditions that are available to them. Remember, unfortunately only humans get acne and the resulting scars. :( Also, I'm quite sure there will be owners out there that might want to try it on old scars to see if they can be improved.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 07/15/2013 2:14 pm

Lapis, in terms of using it for slow to heal wounds and on cats and dogs for skin conditions, I'd imagine that's the best way to show it's efficacy in those animals. I mean, it's not like animals go into their dermatologist asking for a chemical peel, dermarolling and new wound healing tech for cosmetic reasons. For animals, those conditions are the ones that are available to treat in that market. Testing is one thing; burn a mouse and apply it to see what it can do. But we're talking about making money on pets so they'll use the hydrogel to treat the conditions that are available to them. Remember, unfortunately only humans get acne and the resulting scars. sad.png Also, I'm quite sure there will be owners out there that might want to try it on old scars to see if they can be improved.

I guess that makes sense. Let's hope it works so I can go out in the heat without ending up looking like a red bell pepper. tongue.png

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Posted : 07/16/2013 12:57 pm

Good web page

''The main chemical ingredient here is a form of sugar currently used in bread, and which has been used clinically since the 1940s with a long safety record.''

any know how is the name of that sugar?

from the fb page

http://eng.jhu.edu/wse/magazine-summer-13/item/healing-wonders-of-hydrogel/

Let me doubt the word ''biomaterial''.

 

 

From that interview

''anticipate seeing hydrogel being used clinically in pre-approved trials on humans within 18 to 24 months

Gerecht and her team are also working on forms of hydrogel that are infused with various forms of human stem cells in an effort to trigger the bodys power to regenerate blood vessels.

There is still much work that must be done before we can make it work the way we want it to. But I think we are on the right track. Gerechts work is funded in part by the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation''

My opinion is

Why they want to try different things? Why would add things like stem cells? do not understand why complicate things. should first projected sales shows the hydrogel simple, and then see if they can improve.

 

 

I do not know why the articles is undated. I want to see the date of this interview so after two years to see if they fulfill the promise of human testing

they worked on stem cell for wound healing,but not working. check here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23486832

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 07/16/2013 8:49 pm

 

 

Good web page

''The main chemical ingredient here is a form of sugar currently used in bread, and which has been used clinically since the 1940s with a long safety record.''

any know how is the name of that sugar?

 

from the fb page

http://eng.jhu.edu/wse/magazine-summer-13/item/healing-wonders-of-hydrogel/

Let me doubt the word ''biomaterial''.

 

From that interview

''anticipate seeing hydrogel being used clinically in pre-approved trials on humans within 18 to 24 months

Gerecht and her team are also working on forms of hydrogel that are infused with various forms of human stem cells in an effort to trigger the bodys power to regenerate blood vessels.

There is still much work that must be done before we can make it work the way we want it to. But I think we are on the right track. Gerechts work is funded in part by the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation''

My opinion is

Why they want to try different things? Why would add things like stem cells? do not understand why complicate things. should first projected sales shows the hydrogel simple, and then see if they can improve.

 

 

I do not know why the articles is undated. I want to see the date of this interview so after two years to see if they fulfill the promise of human testing

they worked on stem cell for wound healing,but not working. check here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23486832

It's not using the dextran hydrogel and since it's using progenitor cells (somewhat mislabeled as adult stem cells) it's not the same as embryonic stem cells that can replicate indefinitely. They implanted an engineered vascular network derived from a hyaluronic acid hydrogel. I'm no expert but from what I gather from this abstract is that they were testing vascular networks they'd created to see if they would integrate with the existing vasculature structures of the mouse.

 

Still, a good find and interesting that they used a different hydrogel when conducting this study. I guess they're probably trying to determine the efficacy of the dextran hydrogel by itself in other animals before adding anything to it.

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(@panos)

Posted : 07/16/2013 11:48 pm

I have never seen of a case where stem cells have worked.

I have never heard of ''Stem cells cured me''.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 07/18/2013 2:49 pm

So now we

1 Ask and find out exactly when they start testing in pigs

2 Try to convince any doctor who participates testing to send us a photo of pigs before and after healing

3 Ask when exactly would be available in veterinary

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Posted : 07/18/2013 3:04 pm

This seems a little more clear, but it looks like good news to me! Could it be one of the forms of the hydrogel that they're working on? http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/researchers_step_closer_to_custom_building_new_blood_vessels _

http://www.genengnews.com/keywordsandtools/print/4/31941/

These came out two days ago (:

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 07/19/2013 12:46 pm

This seems a little more clear, but it looks like good news to me! Could it be one of the forms of the hydrogel that they're working on? http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/researchers_step_closer_to_custom_building_new_blood_vessels _

http://www.genengnews.com/keywordsandtools/print/4/31941/

These came out two days ago (:

Great find. Does definitely seem like good news. Here's a link to the abstract:

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/07/10/1306562110.abstract .

Maldition, I've tried contacting Fini directly but have been unsuccessful so far. Although, I'm pretty sure the results will be available somewhere online and it seems like JHU's technology transfer website is keeping things pretty up to date. I imagine Fini got burned out from reading so many e-mails from people. The article I posted a bit ago said they were getting several e-mails a week regarding the hydrogel and that doesn't account for e-mails he gets about other projects they have going.

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Posted : 07/20/2013 6:45 am

Anyone else excited that there's actually progress related to this hydrogel and regenerative medicine?

The day when this hydrogel, or whatever treatment years down the line heals my face into something that is smooth, is the day I'll be able to open myself back up to the world and start healing the deep emotional damage I have accumulated by living with this disfigurement.

Best wishes to all other sufferers out there. If it isn't this hydrogel that will save us, it will be some other treatment in the future. Regenerative medicine is coming!

I'll be proud to know the hell I lived through when I can look myself in the face and see a new person.

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(@maldition)

Posted : 07/22/2013 10:30 pm

@golfpanther The perfect deal is having hydrogel for sale next year in veterinary sale

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(@golfpanther)

Posted : 07/23/2013 5:40 pm

@golfpanther The perfect deal is having hydrogel for sale next year in veterinary sale

Honestly, I could see it happening before the end of this year. Their timeline was 6-12 months so depending on when exactly they were quoting that timeline in the article it could be before the end of this year. The JHU engineering school magazine is only published bi-yearly so they could have gathered those quotes anytime before its publication.

But I can't imagine it won't be available next year for veterinary use. The moment of truth is drawing ever closer. smile.png

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