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(@thebean)

Posted : 12/12/2016 8:42 am

I'm confused. I keep seeing sulfates SLS, SLES, etc. on comedogenic lists. People here will reiterate. Acne prone people should avoid them. Yet online and in-person...over and over I keep hearing people day that they ended their acne troubles using one of these sulfate-based cleansers.
I've even seen comments on here of people that will say, "avoid sulfates" and then turn around and say that they use one of these cleansers, or recommend them to others!
I wish I could do a survey on here...do these sulfate-based cleansers help, or make your acne worse?
Also, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the "slimy residue" left behind from liquid cleansers as of late (this ? is more directed towards the older audience here that remembers a time before it)...Do any of these cleansers leave that residue behind? (I know that stuff breaks me out.) Thanks!

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(@kelbell812)

Posted : 12/12/2016 9:25 am

I agree that there is a lot of conflicting reviews on products & I think there are a lot of different reasons for why that is. Not only does it depend on the individual, but it depends on everything else they are using at the time.There have been so many products that I hated at first, but upon trying them a few months later with a different routine I ended up loving them and vice versa. CeraVe worked really well for me when I was using topicals to treat my acne, but in the last few months I've changed my skincare & the medications I take which have resulted in a lot of changes in my skin. Now, I have switched to other products.

There have been products with RAVE reviews that have been terrible for me, and products that everyone has hated that I absolutely loved. There are so many factors that go into into why something does or doesn't work for someone, and I've come to realize that the reviews don't mean much anymore, you just have to try it yourself. That being said, I do not believe anyone should religiously follow  "Comedogenic ingredients to avoid" or "foods to avoid if you have acne" or any type of list like that because acne is simply WAY too subjective to have a concrete, "one size fits all" type of list of things to avoid. If you did do a survey, I am sure you would get results that are all over the place! And if you did the same exact survey with the same exact group of people 6 months from now, it could look completely different. 

Anyway, sorry that was so long haha. That's just my viewpoint on this whole topic. As for the slimy residue, I have not had an issue with these types of cleansers leaving anything behind as long as I rinse my face thoroughly. It definitely feels different than a foaming cleanser, which leaves your skin feeling squeaky clean. I find these leave my skin feeling almost like I've already moisturized it, which might be the feeling that people are describing? It takes some getting used to, but now I really like it. 

P.S. Every time I read one of your posts I keep thinking I'm talking to Olivia from Law & Order. ;D
 

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(@thebean)

Posted : 12/12/2016 10:30 am

Thanks for replying. I know, it's sort of a deep topic, not very "short-answer" friendly. I agree...the comedogenic lists are misleading at best. As far as I can see, in the last several months of research I've done, they completely wasted their time & money on those tests! Must of them were performed on rabbits which have a completely different skin/ pore/ oil gland structure. Any human testing was done on backs, not faces...my shower gel doesn't break out my back, is it therefore suitable for my face?!
Anyway, I do have to say-- I tried Clinique Acne Solutions Foaming Face Wash...comes out of the pump foamy--it left the same slimy film behind. If anything, I rinse my face too much...Finally in frustration, I tried just washing the residue off with my Clinique mild bar. It was harder to scrub off than my makeup!

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(@alyleiii)

Posted : 12/12/2016 11:21 am

I HATE sulfates. They leave a weird, slippery/slimy residue on my skin [SLES] or dry me out terribly and cause worse acne [SLS]. I tried Purpose wash and from the saran wrap/squeaky feeling left behind after, basically the bulk of it was cheap SLES. These things leave a film on your face all day and choke your pores. I also tried Clinique acne solutions wash [in the green bottle] and it did nothing but make my face feel weirdly sticky and irritated, it didn't help acne whatsoever. :( I'm still looking for a good wash. Neutrogena's oil-free wash works to clean my skin without a filmy residue but in a way it adds to the problem by worsening dehydration. UGH

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(@hopeless87)

Posted : 12/12/2016 9:54 pm

i have noticed people say that about sulfates and then recommend cetaphil cleanser too! pretty funny. cetaphil gentle cleanser has sodium LAURYL sulfate while most cleansers have sodium laureth sulfate and i guess lauryl sulfate is much more irritating and even carcinogenic. cetaphil gentle cleanser seems gentle but it clogged my pores pretty bad. when i was a teenager and even up until a few years ago i had no problems using cleansers with sodium laureth sulfate (the one in most drugstore cleansers) but nowadays about an hour after i wash my face with them my skin is extremely sticky and oily and it will take a few days to recover so i avoid them. some of my favorite cleansers are burts bees radiance cleanser, garnier cleangentle clarifying cleansing gel, dessert essence, and dr bronners.

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(@welcomesmirk)

Posted : 12/12/2016 9:59 pm

Been using Cetaphil gentle cleanser since I was 16 to deal with mild mild acne and razor bumps. Went from Cetaphil to clean and clear to coconut oil and then back to cetaphil. Doesn't break me out. I also use the cetaphil moisturizing lotion. I'm 22.

I also am not a regular washer of my face though. I only use soaps when I have active infections/cysts/acne on my face. Don't really believe in putting soap on the skin unless there is an infection.

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(@thebean)

Posted : 12/13/2016 6:30 am

Yes. My son doesn't use soap/cleansers on his face either and he's about your age. Unfortunately, I wear makeup, so not washing it off isn't really an option.

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