Haha thats it? Dang

Haha thats it? Dang

Don't listen to him. He eats Accutane and small children for breakfast.

As you can tell by that post above, SkinDeeply is a troll poster.

Lol im new to the forums, ive been a long time reader but finally set up an account. Gotta love me some trolls.

And in moving on....

If you were on antibiotics for months and months, you very likely did some significant damage to your gut in the process. Well, YOU didn't, but those antibiotics did. Were you using probiotics at the same time or following your final course?

To be perfectly honest, taking birth control for acne often ends up with similar results as antibiotics. They both might work in the short-term, but do a lot of long-term damage to your body (antibiotics to your gut health, and BC to your hormones) in the long-term that can take years to repair.

As far as your diet goes, did you become a vegan for skin-related reasons? What sort of protein and fat are you getting in your diet?

And in moving on....

If you were on antibiotics for months and months, you very likely did some significant damage to your gut in the process. Well, YOU didn't, but those antibiotics did. Were you using probiotics at the same time or following your final course?

To be perfectly honest, taking birth control for acne often ends up with similar results as antibiotics. They both might work in the short-term, but do a lot of long-term damage to your body (antibiotics to your gut health, and BC to your hormones) in the long-term that can take years to repair.

As far as your diet goes, did you become a vegan for skin-related reasons? What sort of protein and fat are you getting in your diet?

I took probiotics after the antibiotics were over. Didnt help with my skin but certainly fixed my stomach issues.

I get protein from vegetables, grains, hemp, sometimes soy, occasionally tempeh (which is not gf im aware of, but im not celiacs so i tried gf just for skin related). I use an app to track my nutrients/protein/vitamins and everything is good to go.

Have you ever tried an antifungal? If your skin has never responded to antibiotics or topicals like BP, or if they made your skin worse, your acne may not be acne at all (which is to say, the problem may not be bacterial or hormonal), but a fungal skin infection that looks just like acne.

Weed is actually anti-inflammatory, so cutting it out was useless

I cured my acne through diet, and I'm a vegan. But neither did my veganism or healthy eating have anything to do with it. Soy, almond milk, cabbage, and grapes still caused me acne. The truth is any foods can be causing your acne if your acne is triggered by food.

Everyone's different. One girl even just stopped drinking coffee and all her acne went away. People always think if they eat healthy and don't get results, then diet doesn't cause their acne. That's not true.

I cured my acne through diet, and I'm a vegan. But neither did my veganism or healthy eating have anything to do with it. Soy, almond milk, cabbage, and grapes still caused me acne. The truth is any foods can be causing your acne if your acne is triggered by food.

 

Everyone's different. One girl even just stopped drinking coffee and all her acne went away. People always think if they eat healthy and don't get results, then diet doesn't cause their acne. That's not true.

Completely agree.

IMO, the best place for any acne sufferer to start investigating is with three tests:

1) A skin culture or skin scraping to determine if the root of the acne is bacterial or fungal, as they both call for very different treatment approaches;

2) A full allergy panel to see what foods and/or substances you should be avoiding if any. Certain food allergies can even point to different skin disorders (with tomatoes and oranges, for instance);

3) A hormone test to make sure your E, P, and T are adequately balanced.

You could also do a stool sample test to check your gut health, but since your gut health can never be TOO good, you can always be working to improve that with or without a diagnosis---also, they can be somewhat costly.

If you don't have the out-of-pocket money to see a naturopath or integrative doctor (who could perform all of these tests), you can get the 1st test from a dermatologist, the second from an allergist, and the third from an endocrinologist or possibly your gynecologist.

 

 

I cured my acne through diet, and I'm a vegan. But neither did my veganism or healthy eating have anything to do with it. Soy, almond milk, cabbage, and grapes still caused me acne. The truth is any foods can be causing your acne if your acne is triggered by food.

Everyone's different. One girl even just stopped drinking coffee and all her acne went away. People always think if they eat healthy and don't get results, then diet doesn't cause their acne. That's not true.

Completely agree.

IMO, the best place for any acne sufferer to start investigating is with three tests:

1) A skin culture to determine if the root of the acne is bacterial or fungal, as they both call for very different treatment approaches;

2) A full allergy panel to see what foods and/or substances you should be avoiding if any. Certain food allergies can even point to different skin disorders (with tomatoes and oranges, for instance);

3) A hormone test to make sure your E, P, and T are adequately balanced.

You could also do a stool sample test to check your gut health, but since your gut health can never be TOO good, you can always be working to improve that with or without a diagnosis---also, they can be somewhat costly.

If you don't have the out-of-pocket money to see a naturopath or integrative doctor (who could perform all of these tests), you can get the 1st test from a dermatologist, the second from an allergist, and the third from an endocrinologist or possibly your gynecologist.

Those are all great suggestions. Unfortunately ive done Most. My gut health was normal after probiotics, no fungal or candida etc.

Just got allergy tested last month, Im allergic to over 50 things but I knew that one already. Im pretty up to date in my dr visits and such.

My hormones were abnormal, mentioned that in the first post. Testosterone was high. My thyroid has also been a little high (3.5-4tsh up to 8, but always goes back to 3) but my endocrinologist doesn't want to put me on medication so were just monitoring.

Skin test, I will see about that, I would like to see if its fungal. Does it "look" fungal to you? What sort of stuff is used to treat that? I was on nistatin (sp?) for fungal just in case with my stomach but it didnt effect my acne

 

 

I cured my acne through diet, and I'm a vegan. But neither did my veganism or healthy eating have anything to do with it. Soy, almond milk, cabbage, and grapes still caused me acne. The truth is any foods can be causing your acne if your acne is triggered by food.

Everyone's different. One girl even just stopped drinking coffee and all her acne went away. People always think if they eat healthy and don't get results, then diet doesn't cause their acne. That's not true.

Completely agree.

IMO, the best place for any acne sufferer to start investigating is with three tests:

1) A skin culture to determine if the root of the acne is bacterial or fungal, as they both call for very different treatment approaches;

2) A full allergy panel to see what foods and/or substances you should be avoiding if any. Certain food allergies can even point to different skin disorders (with tomatoes and oranges, for instance);

3) A hormone test to make sure your E, P, and T are adequately balanced.

You could also do a stool sample test to check your gut health, but since your gut health can never be TOO good, you can always be working to improve that with or without a diagnosis---also, they can be somewhat costly.

If you don't have the out-of-pocket money to see a naturopath or integrative doctor (who could perform all of these tests), you can get the 1st test from a dermatologist, the second from an allergist, and the third from an endocrinologist or possibly your gynecologist.

Those are all great suggestions. Unfortunately ive done Most. My gut health was normal after probiotics, no fungal or candida etc.

Just got allergy tested last month, Im allergic to over 50 things but I knew that one already. Im pretty up to date in my dr visits and such.

My hormones were abnormal, mentioned that in the first post. Testosterone was high. My thyroid has also been a little high (3.5-4tsh up to 8, but always goes back to 3) but my endocrinologist doesn't want to put me on medication so were just monitoring.

Skin test, I will see about that, I would like to see if its fungal. Does it "look" fungal to you? What sort of stuff is used to treat that? I was on nistatin (sp?) for fungal just in case with my stomach but it didnt effect my acne

Yeah, I noticed you mentioned the t in the first post, just added it in as part of the three most helpful tests.

The reason I mention a fungal infection instead of stressing the candida cleansing that we hear so much about is because even if you've gotten your gut flora back in good condition after it's been compromised, you could have still developed a yeast rash/fungal acne and unfortunately, that is localized to the skin--not systemic. Oral Nystatin targets the gut only. So it wouldn't have benefited an already existing dermal fungal infection like Pityrosporum folliculitis.

You can do a pretty simple test at home with just a few products that you might already have on hand to see if this is the case. If you have Head and Shoulders or Selsun Blue shampoo (the magic ingredient is pyrithione zinc), try washing your face and hair in the shower with them--leave it on your skin for about 3 minutes before washing off. After you dry off, apply a moderately thick layer of antifungal cream to your clean face--you can just try something OTC like Lotrimin/Lotriderm (clotrimizole) or even Monistat (miconazole nitrate) if you have it on hand. If you happen to have tea tree oil or even better, grapefruit seed oil, apply a thin diluted layer under the antifungal. If your skin is significantly clearer in the morning or at the most, within 2-3 days, you have a fungal infection on your hands--not acne.

Coincidentally, there is a significant link between thyroid health and Pityrosporum folliculitis outbreaks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I cured my acne through diet, and I'm a vegan. But neither did my veganism or healthy eating have anything to do with it. Soy, almond milk, cabbage, and grapes still caused me acne. The truth is any foods can be causing your acne if your acne is triggered by food.

Everyone's different. One girl even just stopped drinking coffee and all her acne went away. People always think if they eat healthy and don't get results, then diet doesn't cause their acne. That's not true.

 

Completely agree.

IMO, the best place for any acne sufferer to start investigating is with three tests:

1) A skin culture to determine if the root of the acne is bacterial or fungal, as they both call for very different treatment approaches;

2) A full allergy panel to see what foods and/or substances you should be avoiding if any. Certain food allergies can even point to different skin disorders (with tomatoes and oranges, for instance);

3) A hormone test to make sure your E, P, and T are adequately balanced.

You could also do a stool sample test to check your gut health, but since your gut health can never be TOO good, you can always be working to improve that with or without a diagnosis---also, they can be somewhat costly.

If you don't have the out-of-pocket money to see a naturopath or integrative doctor (who could perform all of these tests), you can get the 1st test from a dermatologist, the second from an allergist, and the third from an endocrinologist or possibly your gynecologist.

Those are all great suggestions. Unfortunately ive done Most. My gut health was normal after probiotics, no fungal or candida etc.

Just got allergy tested last month, Im allergic to over 50 things but I knew that one already. Im pretty up to date in my dr visits and such.

My hormones were abnormal, mentioned that in the first post. Testosterone was high. My thyroid has also been a little high (3.5-4tsh up to 8, but always goes back to 3) but my endocrinologist doesn't want to put me on medication so were just monitoring.

Skin test, I will see about that, I would like to see if its fungal. Does it "look" fungal to you? What sort of stuff is used to treat that? I was on nistatin (sp?) for fungal just in case with my stomach but it didnt effect my acne

Yeah, I noticed you mentioned the t in the first post, just added it in as part of the three most helpful tests.

The reason I mention a fungal infection instead of stressing the candida cleansing that we hear so much is because even if you've gotten your gut flora back in good condition after it's been compromised, you could have still developed a yeast rash/fungal acne and unfortunately, that is localized to the skin--not systemic. Oral Nystatin targets the gut only. So it wouldn't have benefited an already existing dermal fungal infection like Pityrosporum folliculitis.

You can do a pretty simple test at home with just a few products that you might already have on hand to see if this is the case. If you have Head and Shoulders or Selsun Blue shampoo, try washing your face and hair in the shower with them--leave it on your skin for about 3 minutes before washing off. After you dry off, apply a moderately thick layer of antifungal cream to your clean face--you can just try something OTC like Lotrimin/Lotriderm (clotrimizole) or even Monistat (miconazole nitrate) if you have it on hand. If you happen to have tea tree oil or even better, grapefruit seed oil, apply a thin diluted layer under the antifungal. If your skin is significantly clearer in the morning or at the most, within 2-3 days, you have a fungal infection on your hands--not acne.

Thank you for being so helpful, I really appreciate it. I have been using head and shoulders for like, 20 years haha. Its the only shampoo that helps with my dandruff (i have excema, has calmed down on most areas after diet). I will try those suggestions though! I guess I should mention I didnt always have acne. I was fine until I made a lot of changes: I quit Lithium which i had been on for 13 years. I quit smoking which i had done for about 10 years heavily. I also lowered my drinking dramatically, went vegan, and stopped a lot of unhealthy habits like pill popping every second i had a cold, etc. All this was within a year-but it was 3 years ago! Youd think my body would finish detoxing. My acne is mostly targeted on my right cheek and chin

If that's the case, than you might want to just do that test with some antifungal cream like clotrimzole, as fungus tends to become tolerant of certain antifungals quickly. In order to treat an infection, you generally need to cycle between 2 or 3 products every couple of weeks to keep it on its toes.

If you want to learn more about other people on this site's experiences with Pityrosporum folliculitis, I would recommend doing a search for it. There are TONS of people here that exhausted every remedy out there for years before discovering they were treating the wrong skin condition. Read some of their stories and see if your breakout patterns sound anything like theirs. Your saying that the antibiotics barely made a dent in your skin condition is what made me think fungal. Honestly, the eczema and dandruff sound like a yeast tipoff to me. I could be wrong--it's just a hunch. But I'd be really interested to hear how it goes if you try a few of those products

Even if it is fungal, you could still occasionally have some actual acne caused by food allergies or hormone fluctuations and so forth. And you would still need to avoid sugar and large amounts of yeast and keep supplying a steady stream of probiotics for your gut health (topical probiotics, I've recently discovered, are a quick way to repopulate your skin's flora that may have been destroyed from BP and topical antibacterials). But knocking out the yeast on your skin is what would take care of most of the bumps, flaking, and irritation--on your whole body.

Oh, and P.S.--I just learned recently that diluted Monistat applied to your roots completely obliterates yeast and dandruff from your hair and makes it grow in super healthy and long. I haven't tried it yet, but I plan to.

I dont know if it looks quite fungal from those posts. Its hard to tell:/ here's another photos from this month. Excuse my face lol

Its all generally in the same areas

I wash with a Cerave cleanser, spot treat with tea tree oil, use an Aha at night, and occasionally moisterize with organic jojoba oil

Well, in the pictures, it doesn't really look like cystic acne to me, but I'll take your word for it and say that I've long suspected that cysts/nodules tend to be caused by a food intolerance. My severe cystic acne was caused by citrus. And before I figured that out, I tried 2 courses of accutane which did nothing but give me chapped lips.

However, continuing your anti-inflammatory diet habits should reduce the level of inflammation and therefore the size of the cysts. And speed healing.

And blood sugar stabilizing diet habits help normalize hormone levels.

Well, in the pictures, it doesn't really look like cystic acne to me, but I'll take your word for it and say that I've long suspected that cysts/nodules tend to be caused by a food intolerance. My severe cystic acne was caused by citrus. And before I figured that out, I tried 2 courses of accutane which did nothing but give me chapped lips.

However, continuing your anti-inflammatory diet habits should reduce the level of inflammation and therefore the size of the cysts. And speed healing.

And blood sugar stabilizing diet habits help normalize hormone levels.

Oh really? Yeah the photos dont do too much justice. They are super deep in the skin, rarely come to a head unless I use adapalene, which just makes it red and stay around longer unfortunately. I can usually feel them coming a week before. They are very painful and I feel them 24/7 and leave these scars. My skin heals fairly quickly (i think due to my diet and routine) but they still pop up.

 

Well, in the pictures, it doesn't really look like cystic acne to me, but I'll take your word for it and say that I've long suspected that cysts/nodules tend to be caused by a food intolerance. My severe cystic acne was caused by citrus. And before I figured that out, I tried 2 courses of accutane which did nothing but give me chapped lips.

However, continuing your anti-inflammatory diet habits should reduce the level of inflammation and therefore the size of the cysts. And speed healing.

And blood sugar stabilizing diet habits help normalize hormone levels.

Oh really? Yeah the photos dont do too much justice. They are super deep in the skin, rarely come to a head unless I use adapalene, which just makes it red and stay around longer unfortunately. I can usually feel them coming a week before. They are very painful and I feel them 24/7 and leave these scars. My skin heals fairly quickly (i think due to my diet and routine) but they still pop up.

The feeling them coming is how I identify cysts when I still get them. Especially since my diet changes cause them to be so much smaller than they used to be. And I don't mean feeling them with my fingers. i mean you feel like there's something on your face. Or in your face. Although mine didn't take a week. I usually get them a day after i consume the citrus. And they always come to the surface and are red.

I am vegan too but the culprit for me was soy milk. It mimics estrogen so it can cause acne. I heard recently it might be as bad as milk. I've stopped drinking it completely and my face is less inflamed. I'm having a severe flare up of cystic acne that correlates to when I started drinking soy heavily. I drank so much of it so it will probably take a long time for my face to even out. I used this combination of Aztec Secret mask with apple cider vinegar and it took a lot of the redness away but it's still pretty evident. I'm also cutting out all sugar as that can cause inflammation. I'm also cutting out gluten. I'll probably be reduced to just eating rice at this point but what can you do.

If you are drinking soy I would stop to see if it helps.