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I Know The Cause And The Cure For Acne

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(@somethingspecial)

Posted : 08/14/2015 11:24 pm

Acne is a combination of an overreaction from the lymphatic system to naturally occurring androgens and estrogen chemistry. This is why it rears in puberty. All acne is the same and is a genetic and immunological abnormality to androgens.

 

one must consistently follow a low carb, low sugar diet in order to block this reaction. Maybe the statement of "cure" isn't entirely correct but completely management of symptoms can be achieved by following a low carb diet. (E.g south beach, Atkins ect)

 

Eat like a diabetic in other words. Limit your sugars, dramatically reduce your carbs to only that of vegetables.

 

I bet my life on it that this is the way to manage ALL acne. Without the androgen spikes your overly androgen sensitive skin will not produce inflammation.

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(@melloman)

Posted : 08/14/2015 11:45 pm

Lymphatic system along with hormone production?

 

 

This is interesting, but I'm not sure that it will heal everyone's acne very quickly. I know someone who took on an extremely healthy diet like this for almost a year, but her eczema didn't go until she gave up tomatoes. I have cleared my acne myself through diet, but I've found I breakout on apples, cabbage, grapes, etc. Maybe if I did that diet over time, but that would take a lot of time.

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Posted : 08/15/2015 1:07 am

Lymphatic system along with hormone production?

 

 

This is interesting, but I'm not sure that it will heal everyone's acne very quickly. I know someone who took on an extremely healthy diet like this for almost a year, but her eczema didn't go until she gave up tomatoes. I have cleared my acne myself through diet, but I've found I breakout on apples, cabbage, grapes, etc. Maybe if I did that diet over time, but that would take a lot of time.

Eczema and acne are not the same thing. There are similarities as they are both inflammatory disorders. But eczema is not affected by insulin spikes - acne is.

 

Acne is not caused by diet, it is caused by a varitety of genetic faults that contribute to inflammation, androgen sensitivity and poor cell renewal (leading to clogging). It is highly drawn and aggravated however by insulin aggravating foods (mostly bad carbs and sugar).

 

If every acne sufferer on this site was to eat like a diabetic is prescribed to eat their skin would clear in 1-2 months.

 

Diets fail with acne patients because they're doing the wrong diets and focusing on the wrong culprits (dairy ect.). inatead of juicing and eating gluten free bread and organic kefir they should be eating a simple carb restricted diet with balanced nutrition.

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Posted : 08/15/2015 1:16 am

 

Eczema and acne are not the same thing. There are similarities as they are both inflammatory disorders. But eczema is not affected by insulin spikes - acne is.

 

Acne is not caused by diet, it is caused by a varitety of genetic faults that contribute to inflammation, androgen sensitivity and poor cell renewal (leading to clogging). It is highly drawn and aggravated however by insulin aggravating foods (mostly bad carbs and sugar).

 

If every acne sufferer on this site was to eat like a diabetic is prescribed to eat their skin would clear in 1-2 months.

 

Diets fail with acne patients because they're doing the wrong diets and focusing on the wrong culprits (dairy ect.). inatead of juicing and eating gluten free bread and organic kefir they should be eating a simple carb restricted diet with balanced nutrition.

 

I agree that most people aren't gonna clear on other people's diet, but I've cured my cystic acne through my own diet. I suspect I have leaky gut which causes food sensitivities. My leaky gut syndrome was likely caused by my piss poor diet I had growing up. Through eliminating all problem foods, my acne has cleared. Then by adding more healthy food, I'm healing. Eventually I may be "cured," or healed enough not to breakout as easily when returning to these problem foods (if that ever happens).

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Posted : 08/15/2015 2:42 pm

Is this what you did? If so, do you have a before and after picture?

 

The acne.org founder, Dan Kern, even tried that type of regimen, along with others. It ended up not helping much. You can read about it in the link below.

 

Funny that you say you bet your life on your opinion, as research hasn't concluded about a link between diet and acne.

http://www.acne.org/diet.html#glycemic

 

In the link it also talks about decrease in calories, which you most likely will have with the diets you mentioned (Atkins, South Beach) that are low-carb, low-sugar. It may seem to work at first, but that's due to a decrease in calories. Look under "Caloric Intake" in the link for the explanation.

 

I just base this off what I learned from this site. I just can't take your word for it as there is a lot of mystery about diet and acne, with a lot of it being myths and opinions. Although, the diet/holistic approaches interests me the most as I'm trying to rid of acne naturally.

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Posted : 08/15/2015 6:12 pm

Is this what you did? If so, do you have a before and after picture?

 

The acne.org founder, Dan Kern, even tried that type of regimen, along with others. It ended up not helping much. You can read about it in the link below.

 

Funny that you say you bet your life on your opinion, as research hasn't concluded about a link between diet and acne.

http://www.acne.org/diet.html#glycemic

 

In the link it also talks about decrease in calories, which you most likely will have with the diets you mentioned (Atkins, South Beach) that are low-carb, low-sugar. It may seem to work at first, but that's due to a decrease in calories. Look under "Caloric Intake" in the link for the explanation.

 

I just base this off what I learned from this site. I just can't take your word for it as there is a lot of mystery about diet and acne, with a lot of it being myths and opinions. Although, the diet/holistic approaches interests me the most as I'm trying to rid of acne naturally.

Acne can't manifest without the dietary aspect. It has every influence on it. Acne is not caused by diet, it is however drawn by it

 

dan kern is a business man.. I wouldn't take his word for it. He just wants to make money

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Posted : 08/15/2015 10:42 pm

 

Is this what you did? If so, do you have a before and after picture?

 

The acne.org founder, Dan Kern, even tried that type of regimen, along with others. It ended up not helping much. You can read about it in the link below.

 

Funny that you say you bet your life on your opinion, as research hasn't concluded about a link between diet and acne.

http://www.acne.org/diet.html#glycemic

 

In the link it also talks about decrease in calories, which you most likely will have with the diets you mentioned (Atkins, South Beach) that are low-carb, low-sugar. It may seem to work at first, but that's due to a decrease in calories. Look under "Caloric Intake" in the link for the explanation.

 

I just base this off what I learned from this site. I just can't take your word for it as there is a lot of mystery about diet and acne, with a lot of it being myths and opinions. Although, the diet/holistic approaches interests me the most as I'm trying to rid of acne naturally.

Acne can't manifest without the dietary aspect. It has every influence on it. Acne is not caused by diet, it is however drawn by it

 

dan kern is a business man.. I wouldn't take his word for it. He just wants to make money

 

That's true. I was looking at that link and most of the references are from organizations that specialize in dermatology. I would think their best interest would to keep people coming back to their offices to visit them for prescriptions ($$$). Then again, I think acne isn't researched well enough since it's not life-threatening or as serious as other skin conditions. Nevertheless, I still am trying the diet approach.

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Posted : 08/16/2015 10:04 am

 

Lucas89, on 16 Aug 2015 - 00:06, said:

TheNatural, on 15 Aug 2015 - 22:47, said:

Somethingspecial, on 15 Aug 2015 - 18:17, said:

TheNatural, on 15 Aug 2015 - 14:47, said:

Is this what you did? If so, do you have a before and after picture?

 

The acne.org founder, Dan Kern, even tried that type of regimen, along with others. It ended up not helping much. You can read about it in the link below.

 

Funny that you say you bet your life on your opinion, as research hasn't concluded about a link between diet and acne.

http://www.acne.org/diet.html#glycemic

 

In the link it also talks about decrease in calories, which you most likely will have with the diets you mentioned (Atkins, South Beach) that are low-carb, low-sugar. It may seem to work at first, but that's due to a decrease in calories. Look under "Caloric Intake" in the link for the explanation.

 

I just base this off what I learned from this site. I just can't take your word for it as there is a lot of mystery about diet and acne, with a lot of it being myths and opinions. Although, the diet/holistic approaches interests me the most as I'm trying to rid of acne naturally.

Acne can't manifest without the dietary aspect. It has every influence on it. Acne is not caused by diet, it is however drawn by it

 

dan kern is a business man.. I wouldn't take his word for it. He just wants to make money

That's true. I was looking at that link and most of the references are from organizations that specialize in dermatology. I would think their best interest would to keep people coming back to their offices to visit them for prescriptions ($$$). Then again, I think acne isn't researched well enough since it's not life-threatening or as serious as other skin conditions. Nevertheless, I still am trying the diet approach.

Actually, a lot of derms prescribe Accutane which in most cases clears the patient up so they won't have to come back.

Yeah, but I thought that was only for severe acne, which is the worst and rarest kind of acne.

 

And I was referring to dermatologists and how they seem to only prescribe prescriptions rather than natural or home remedies, since it's easier to just sign a prescription than to go the safer route (I was looking at accutane side effects, which is many http://www.acne.org/accutane.html ). Then again, I guess I don't think highly of doctors since I know people who've worked with doctors their entire lives that view them as more of people who try to only get more and more money. Although, there are some that chose that profession to help people, but that seems to be rare. I'm a bit of a skeptic, as you can tell.

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Posted : 08/16/2015 8:18 pm

I don't buy it. People can suffer acne in their 40s and 50s. Moreover, carbohydrate restriction, while successful for some, is a far cry from a cure. It did nothing for me, for example, and indeed eating a reasonable quantity of carbohydrates daily seems to improve my skin.

 

That being said, I think a diet like the paleo diet is an excellent place to start in the treatment of acne (and a host of other conditions). But I am of the opinion that this is more due to the diet's nutritional density, the avoidance of seed oils and grains which both promote inflammation, and the consumption of plenty of fruits, vegetables, and omega 3 fats.

 

Hormones may be necessary for acne to form, but that doesn't mean they are causing it. They could simply be unveiling low-grade inflammation that was already present before puberty even hits. Or they could be allowing the skin to manifest a response to endotoxins that result from a dysbiotic flora. Hormones do have a role, but from all I have learned, I would bet that the cause is immunologic.

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Posted : 08/17/2015 9:46 am

Of course it's going to have side effects if it works. The home/natural remedies don't actually work.

 

If it works it has to have side effects? Never heard of that. That's like saying drinking water works by keeping my skin hydrated, but since it works it has to have some side effect too. Accutane has many negative side effects, like neurological symptoms, birth defects, joint pains, depression, vision problems, and the list goes on. You can't compare something that radical to a natural/homemade remedy.

 

You don't believe the people on this site and on other places, such as Youtube, that have before and after pictures of using natural ways to rid of their acne? If you search Apple Cider Vinegar Acne on Youtube you'll see before and after pics of people who used (and still are using) ACV on their skin and/or drinking it, which cured their acne. I'm a skeptic too, but you don't believe them...even when they have pictures to prove it?

 

What home/natural remedies have you tried? Since you say they don't work, I assume you tried them all.

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Posted : 08/17/2015 3:11 pm

If I eat fruits, veggies, meat, nuts I never get cystic acne. Once I cheat, (dairy and sugar being the worst offenders, I am guaranteed cysts.

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Posted : 08/23/2015 9:31 pm

 

Of course it's going to have side effects if it works. The home/natural remedies don't actually work.

 

If it works it has to have side effects? Never heard of that. That's like saying drinking water works by keeping my skin hydrated, but since it works it has to have some side effect too. Accutane has many negative side effects, like neurological symptoms, birth defects, joint pains, depression, vision problems, and the list goes on. You can't compare something that radical to a natural/homemade remedy.

 

You don't believe the people on this site and on other places, such as Youtube, that have before and after pictures of using natural ways to rid of their acne? If you search Apple Cider Vinegar Acne on Youtube you'll see before and after pics of people who used (and still are using) ACV on their skin and/or drinking it, which cured their acne. I'm a skeptic too, but you don't believe them...even when they have pictures to prove it?

 

What home/natural remedies have you tried? Since you say they don't work, I assume you tried them all.

 

 

If you have to continue to use any special product permanently or else risk your acne returning, regardless of whether or not it's natural or synthetic, you haven't CURED your acne-- you've just found a good way to temporarily reduce one of the symptoms of the root problem causing your acne. In this way, the approach really isn't any different from that of allopathic medicine, which aims to treat disease by prescribing medicines that have the opposite effect of the symptom.

 

Similar to clinical depression, I don't for a second believe acne is a disease in and of itself, but rather one symptom of a number of underlying conditions. It's the reason I think people will often have success with an acne treatment for a certain amount of time and then find it all of a sudden stops working or stops working as well as it used to. It's because while you were focusing on treating only the one symptom (acne), the underlying condition was worsening or changing--therefore altering the symptoms as well as the body's treatment response.

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