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(@arcadefire)

Posted : 03/11/2007 8:05 pm

you would think that you would gain weight by taking fish OIL. but i've experienced a SLIGHT weight loss. =)

it's only been like what.. 3 days gettting the proper amount of fish oil.

it's so nice :D

 

oh and as for my diet:

it's no meat. no dairy. no fast food. a little bit of sugar(so hard to give up)

almost everything i eat is organic and when i eat eggs i make sure its organic omega3 cage-free eggs.

the reason i don't eat meat is not only because of hormones because there was another reason that i can't remember =\ .. it's something my acupuncturist told me.

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(@legend)

Posted : 03/11/2007 9:29 pm

you would think that you would gain weight by taking fish OIL. but i've experienced a SLIGHT weight loss. =)

it's only been like what.. 3 days gettting the proper amount of fish oil.

it's so nice 😀

oh and as for my diet:

it's no meat. no dairy. no fast food. a little bit of sugar(so hard to give up)

almost everything i eat is organic and when i eat eggs i make sure its organic omega3 cage-free eggs.

the reason i don't eat meat is not only because of hormones because there was another reason that i can't remember =\ .. it's something my acupuncturist told me.

In general, anytime fat is alone or with protein, it won't make you fat. Only when combined with simple carbs. Example: French Fries.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/11/2007 10:12 pm

Claim 1: Fish oil can stop excessive oil production

Claim 2: Fish oil can reduce the excess oil production

Claim 3: Fish oil changes the "type" of oil produced, but not the amount.

Which one is it?! AHHH. :wacko:

Some people like bber seem to have no oil from the omega 3. I have seen a slight reduction in oil, but primarily a reduction in the viscosity of oil, almost being regulated to how it's supposed to be as the only time I get any actives, is when I don't blot for hours on end, and when I do get them, they are so small now. That never happened like it does now. It's getting less severe, and less in quantity as time goes on. Right now it's barely any at all. It's really exciting to see these changes. I am thinking about upping my dosages even more right now.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/11/2007 10:14 pm

you would think that you would gain weight by taking fish OIL. but i've experienced a SLIGHT weight loss. =)

it's only been like what.. 3 days gettting the proper amount of fish oil.

it's so nice 😀

oh and as for my diet:

it's no meat. no dairy. no fast food. a little bit of sugar(so hard to give up)

almost everything i eat is organic and when i eat eggs i make sure its organic omega3 cage-free eggs.

the reason i don't eat meat is not only because of hormones because there was another reason that i can't remember =\ .. it's something my acupuncturist told me.

Take the yolk out of the egg! The yolk is what has all the omega 6, and if you check out the nutrition data site, the omega 6 in each egg is a LOT, but the egg white listing labels none to be in the egg white. So assuming that the yolk is the issue, eat egg whites =)

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/11/2007 10:17 pm

I have a couple of questions for you guys

 

My capsules are almost done, and I actually want to buy the bottle of actual oil:

 

1) Must the bottle be stored in the refrigerator? And also, wherever you buy it, will it be placed on a shelf with room temperature?

 

I ask since I can't recall if someone said it must be in a cold area where it's stored, or something like that. Also

 

2) What does it taste like, and which brand do you recommend? Can I put it in something like milk to mask the taste and drink it?

 

3) Is it necessary to take fish oil with a source of fat? I heard it is, but I am not too sure. Tell me when and how you guys take it.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/11/2007 10:18 pm

My eyelashes are growing thicker, way thicker. My skin looks better overall, red marks less red, less inflammation on any lingering blemishes. The oil my face produces is different, and actually moisturizes instead of sitting there on top of flakes. I have more energy. I can't comment on the memory, I remember things for an excessive length of time in general.

You're just naturally smart I see =)

Hehe, do you notice any difference in the quality of your nails yet? My cuticles seem really nice, like oily yet not. I don't know how to describe it, nourished? I suppose you could say. Not broken and dry like they used to be.

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(@cubsin2100)

Posted : 03/11/2007 10:26 pm

Now I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere... but I am going to ask it again

 

I eat a generally vegan diet, but am not adverse to fish oil capsules... so I take those.

 

My question is, I read that flaxseed oil provide ALA, which does not come from vegetables. Do I then have to take both fish oil capsults AND flaxseed?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/11/2007 10:33 pm

Now I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere... but I am going to ask it again

I eat a generally vegan diet, but am not adverse to fish oil capsules... so I take those.

My question is, I read that flaxseed oil provide ALA, which does not come from vegetables. Do I then have to take both fish oil capsults AND flaxseed?

from my understanding (I may be wrong) but ALA is changed into epa and dha and then to omega 3 (something like that?), so ALA may not be necessary if there already is epa and dha in fish oil. I think? I'm not too knowledgeable on that part, everyone could answer better. Sorry, I tried my best

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(@cubsin2100)

Posted : 03/11/2007 10:37 pm

Now I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere... but I am going to ask it again

I eat a generally vegan diet, but am not adverse to fish oil capsules... so I take those.

My question is, I read that flaxseed oil provide ALA, which does not come from vegetables. Do I then have to take both fish oil capsults AND flaxseed?

from my understanding (I may be wrong) but ALA is changed into epa and dha and then to omega 3 (something like that?), so ALA may not be necessary if there already is epa and dha in fish oil. I think? I'm not too knowledgeable on that part, everyone could answer better. Sorry, I tried my best

 

No, I think you are right, from what I am reading... anyone else verify?

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(@cyph31)

Posted : 03/12/2007 10:26 am

i thought ALA is only good for females because they can convert it to EPA and DHA more efficiently than men

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/12/2007 10:37 am

I found something interesting. I was looking through "when to take omega 3's" and I found this:

 

About loading phases

 

Yep the loading phase is what Dr. Serrano recommends for someone who is Omega 3 or fat deficient. "Your dose depends on your weight, but I recommend if you are less that 200 lbs. that you take 9 - 12 capsules. If you are over 200 lbs. take up to 30 capsules/day. Do this for at least 4 weeks and then reduce to 15 per day for maintenance. You will feel better and be significantly leaner at the end of four weeks!"

 

Some people have used low fat diets and stripped their reserves of essential fatty acids needed for optimal function. In this case you want to load the system with Alpha O to restore a proper balance. The loading dose will depend on activity levels and the size of the individual person. Following the loading phase a maintenance dose is needed to promote optimal levels of essential fatty acids including the powerful Omega 3. Using this loading protocol will ensure that you have proper levels of the essential fatty acids. Following the loading phase you can use the base dosage of 6-12 per day.

 

http://www.qfac.com/articles/serrano/serrano3.html

 

Darn, should have taken more on the get go. But I will up it to 10 this week. I have exactly 63 capsules so in a week I'll have a fresh batch.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/12/2007 10:41 am

And about the ALA thing:

 

Walnuts, flaxseed and other vegetarian sources of omega-3 do not provide EPA and DHA but rather a precursor (alpha-linolenic acid) that the body must convert. This conversion is inefficient at best and often inhibited by high intake of the fats common in processed and fast food.

 

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...1205361,00.html

 

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(@femme25)

Posted : 03/12/2007 10:44 am

I found something interesting. I was looking through "when to take omega 3's" and I found this:

About loading phases

 

Yep the loading phase is what Dr. Serrano recommends for someone who is Omega 3 or fat deficient. "Your dose depends on your weight, but I recommend if you are less that 200 lbs. that you take 9 - 12 capsules. If you are over 200 lbs. take up to 30 capsules/day. Do this for at least 4 weeks and then reduce to 15 per day for maintenance. You will feel better and be significantly leaner at the end of four weeks!"

Some people have used low fat diets and stripped their reserves of essential fatty acids needed for optimal function. In this case you want to load the system with Alpha O to restore a proper balance. The loading dose will depend on activity levels and the size of the individual person. Following the loading phase a maintenance dose is needed to promote optimal levels of essential fatty acids including the powerful Omega 3. Using this loading protocol will ensure that you have proper levels of the essential fatty acids. Following the loading phase you can use the base dosage of 6-12 per day.

http://www.qfac.com/articles/serrano/serrano3.html

Darn, should have taken more on the get go. But I will up it to 10 this week. I have exactly 63 capsules so in a week I'll have a fresh batch.

 

DUDE, guess whos going out and buying more fish oil tonight!! mwahahah

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/12/2007 10:46 am

Which brands to get:

 

http://www.crazymeds.org/omega3.html

 

As for brands, I was all about Twinlab, being independently lab verified to have in the capsule what is on the label, but evidence from a variety of sources, including Consumers' Reports, indicates that the house brands of WalMart and Sam's Club are just as good.

 

I am glad I am using sam's club brand, phew! It's dirt cheap too

 

Also, this is contradictory to the bulk phase, but:

 

You need to take 3,000 to 5,000 mg a day of EPA and DHA combined... psychiatric medication it's best to work up to that dosage and not start at 3,000mg.

 

Well, in any case, it seems I started out small, went bigger, and now I will be at 3 grams of epa and dha considering I am now on 10 pills

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/12/2007 10:47 am

DUDE, guess whos going out and buying more fish oil tonight!! mwahahah

Sweet :D!! I am gobbling these babies up too.

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Fish is number 1 :wub:

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(@femme25)

Posted : 03/12/2007 10:57 am

Fish is number 1 :wub:

hell yeah!! :dance:

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/12/2007 11:16 am

Also, about overdosing

 

http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/report.as...agory=Omega%203

 

There shouldn‚„t bee much concern about overdosing.

The Eskimos were found to consume up to 12,000 milligrams of omega-3 fish oil a day with no side effects. In 1997 the US Food & Drug Administration granted ‚Å“generally recognized as safe‚ (GRAS) status to fish oil and indicated 3000 milligrams per day of EPA + DHA, the two primary omega-3 molecules found in fish oil, would be considered safe for American adults. Controlled clinical trials using 7000-30,000 mg per day have not revealed any significant safety concerns. [Preventive Medicine 39: 212-20, 2004] So questions over safety of fish oil should not be on doctors‚„ minds.

 

 

:D

 

sweet.

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(@bigbeauty)

Posted : 03/12/2007 11:18 am

Also, about overdosing

http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/report.as...agory=Omega%203

 

There shouldnt bee much concern about overdosing.

The Eskimos were found to consume up to 12,000 milligrams of omega-3 fish oil a day with no side effects. In 1997 the US Food & Drug Administration granted generally recognized as safe (GRAS) status to fish oil and indicated 3000 milligrams per day of EPA + DHA, the two primary omega-3 molecules found in fish oil, would be considered safe for American adults. Controlled clinical trials using 7000-30,000 mg per day have not revealed any significant safety concerns. [Preventive Medicine 39: 212-20, 2004] So questions over safety of fish oil should not be on doctors minds.

😀

sweet.

 

Well, I'm going to up it to a frickin' bottle a day now! Thanks for all the links BTW...

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(@mfg)

Posted : 03/12/2007 11:20 am

Guys, I bought a bottle of fish oil from Whole Foods and started taking it last night. This is the brand I got:

 

http://www.nordicnaturals.com/retailers/pr...mmary.asp?ID=33

 

I plan to take roughly 1 tablespoon twice a day -- once in the morning, once at night. A little background: I don't have severe acne at all, but I do have insanely oily skin, and the oil is thick and not very moisturizing, which means that even though I'm oily, I have lots of little dry flakes. I have a lot of tiny bumps, my skin texture is not good, and I'm prone to a lot of blackheads and few whiteheads.

 

One thing I noticed is that the oil doesn't taste fishy at all. It actually tastes lemony and fresh. I'm keeping mine in the refrigerator.

 

So far I do feel a little less oily. By this time of the day (it's noon, and I get up at around 8 am), I can usually feel a lot of thick oil on my face. I don't know exactly how to describe it, but I can just feel it, and it's pretty nasty. This morning, I'm definitely feeling lighter, but I don't know how much of that is psychological or due to other factors (weather, humidity, etc.). I'll keep this up and let you guys know how I'm doing.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/12/2007 11:24 am

Guys, I bought a bottle of fish oil from Whole Foods and started taking it last night. This is the brand I got:

http://www.nordicnaturals.com/retailers/pr...mmary.asp?ID=33

I plan to take roughly 1 tablespoon twice a day -- once in the morning, once at night. A little background: I don't have severe acne at all, but I do have insanely oily skin, and the oil is thick and not very moisturizing, which means that even though I'm oily, I have lots of little dry flakes. I have a lot of tiny bumps, my skin texture is not good, and I'm prone to a lot of blackheads and few whiteheads.

One thing I noticed is that the oil doesn't taste fishy at all. It actually tastes lemony and fresh. I'm keeping mine in the refrigerator.

So far I do feel a little less oily. By this time of the day (it's noon, and I get up at around 8 am), I can usually feel a lot of thick oil on my face. I don't know exactly how to describe it, but I can just feel it, and it's pretty nasty. This morning, I'm definitely feeling lighter, but I don't know how much of that is psychological or due to other factors (weather, humidity, etc.). I'll keep this up and let you guys know how I'm doing.

Yes, definitely keep us posted. I checked out the label and twice a day sounds good. (it will get close to 3 grams of epa and dha)

Btw, how many servings are in it?

How much did you pay, and of which one, the 8 fl or the 16 fl?

I am looking to buy some.

If you want, you can take it more than twice, and then after a month, reduce it to twice for maintenance dosages. So it will kick start your system faster from the lack of omega 3's. That was my mistake, i went gentle first, when I should have had my higher doses in the beginning for the loading phase

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Posted : 03/12/2007 1:18 pm

Week four has begun:

 

It's been exactly a completition of three weeks, looking back I've come a very far way already.

 

I am upping my dosage to 10 caps a day, from 6 capsules. 4 with my morning meal, 3 with my mid afternoon meal, and 3 with my final meal.

 

That brings me to 3 grams of EPA and DHA combined.

 

Once this week is over, I will look into buying the liquid, as I only have a week's worth left.

 

I also added in the green tea extracts.

 

And one more thing. I started using a gentle version of the acv topical again. But instead, I added in lemon juice with the acv. It neutralizes the god awful smell. It is also said to be great for blemishes, and is a natural AHA will will exfoliate and keep pores uncloged for me. All I have to do is brush my skin gently in the morning and that is all (to get rid of the dead skin) and then wash gently. Also, a few drops of 100% pure tea tree oil. All diluted in 50 to 75% water. I put the ACV in the fridge, so when it's all mixed together, the application feels really cool and the TTO reduces the dryness. Tea tree oil It's an essential oil that nourishes, is an anti-septic, anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal. It will tone my face well, and be a replacement for any use of harsh chemicals (SA,BP).

 

I sit close to a small room fan and let it cool off. Then apply a mix of aloe vera and lotion immediately. It feels, amazing.

 

Results so far:

 

Now I have no active spots on my face, my back is clearing fast, and well, each day gets better and better. Every day I wake up, is the best day of my life, with the next one getting even better. There's not another month in my life where I have felt this way, in a sequence, with more to come.

My body feels like the spartan army in 300, destroying whatever comes it's way and not giving it any mercy.

 

Bless you all!

 

One last thing, it's amazing to see how fast your mind retains knowledge. Here's a fun test. Sit in front of the t.v. with your remote in hand. Push the up button on the channels and see the channels flicker fast. Try reading each program or channel name you just passed. Chances are you'll be able to read each of them in a flash. I tried applying that to reading, pushing my eyes faster on a horizontal line of text to only be able to actually remember what I read much easier. It's the concept of speed reading, and it's getting to be more possible if you train yourself to just push through the words, having faith that you'll recognize the words easily.

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(@femme25)

Posted : 03/12/2007 1:19 pm

just wanted to update: been on the fish oil for about 2 weeks now and last week was kind of weird because I was um, in my monthly phase, and thus more oily than usual.

 

Normally I use about 4-5 oil blotting sheets a day. It is 2:20 pm right now and my average at this time of day is about 3 by now. Guess how many I have used today? A HALF of one. CRAZY~!!!

 

I am a believer, yes sir'ee.

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(@piwi)

Posted : 03/12/2007 2:11 pm

I have been taking pills of 1000mg of Omega-3 each, the brand name is called "First Choice" it comes in a fancy box and says Made in Canada. I take 3 daily with food every day since Wednesday of last week, now I am starting my 6th day, but I have yet to see any results more than perhaps the oil is not as sticky but this could be wishful thinking, I still have a very oily face, and although I have not measured my ratio, my consumption of food is not that much hehe, although I do eat many food with saturated fat, aww I will continue until I end them up, but I'm a bit sad as I don't see any shocking results so far, I'm oily as a slice of a hot pizza

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(@gymrat7676)

Posted : 03/12/2007 2:13 pm

I am taking 5-6 pills per day. the bottle says 1000mg of country life brand - i can't remember the breakdown of EPA and the other one but i remember it was ok and i am definitely noticing less oil after about 2wks of taking them. i will update

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 03/12/2007 2:53 pm

I have been taking pills of 1000mg of Omega-3 each, the brand name is called "First Choice" it comes in a fancy box and says Made in Canada. I take 3 daily with food every day since Wednesday of last week, now I am starting my 6th day, but I have yet to see any results more than perhaps the oil is not as sticky but this could be wishful thinking, I still have a very oily face, and although I have not measured my ratio, my consumption of food is not that much hehe, although I do eat many food with saturated fat, aww I will continue until I end them up, but I'm a bit sad as I don't see any shocking results so far, I'm oily as a slice of a hot pizza

List out your diet, so we can analyze where some of the other things are coming from. I have a feeling they are really affecting you.

Take more than 3, it's not enough. Take 6 minimum. 3 will take you a couple of months to be where some of us are right now

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