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Hello! I'm going to try and incorporate some fishy oil into my diet! Just thought I'd let you know also that flax seed oil might have it's benefits,
but the body has to convert it to DHA and EPA which means, if you can hold your nose, fish oil is the best option.
Also, because of the high levels of mercury, you should aim for pharmaceutical grade fish oil liquids.
One teaspoon is usuallly equivalent to 8 tablets and the bioavailibility is often better and they come in natural fruit flavours now.
I'm pretty pumped because it's been missing from my diet for a while. I bought a bottle of flax seed, seems like I'll have to finish it.
Hello! I'm going to try and incorporate some fishy oil into my diet! Just thought I'd let you know also that flax seed oil might have it's benefits,
but the body has to convert it to DHA and EPA which means, if you can hold your nose, fish oil is the best option.
Also, because of the high levels of mercury, you should aim for pharmaceutical grade fish oil liquids.
One teaspoon is usuallly equivalent to 8 tablets and the bioavailibility is often better and they come in natural fruit flavours now.
I'm pretty pumped because it's been missing from my diet for a while. I bought a bottle of flax seed, seems like I'll have to finish it.
Yes, make sure you invest in a high grade fish oil. Although im taking swansons super epa right now because its cheap. I noticed you have to take it in the day time not night. for some reason i developed bumps under my skin and i thought it was an allergic reaction but i guess not.
If your concerned with possible mercury or other toxins add magnesium into your diet as magnesium is great for binding up excess metals in the body like mercury. Also MSM is great for detoxing the liver. I take a 1gram a day and no more.
MSM can increase sebum production and this i have noticed with take 2, 1gram capsules. I reduced and the problem went away. Always take in the morning or before afternoon because it will keep you up at night.
I notice when I eat salmon, my skin tends to be less oily. I don't eat a lot, 2x a week seems to work pretty well for me. However, I have been reading something that disturbs me lately. Companies are trying to have genetically modified salmon approved. This bothers me because if they achieve the goal, this salmon may end up on shelves without having a label. From the article I read this salmon has higher levels of IGF-1.........which I have seen on here to be a major factor in acne problems. I am including part of the article, and the link.
"The AquAdvantage salmon is an Atlantic salmon with genes inserted from a Chinook salmon and an ocean pout. The Chinook gene codes for growth hormone, and the pout gene keeps the Chinook gene locked in the "on" position. The extra growth hormone helps the AquAdvantage salmon reach market size twice as fast as non-GE salmon."
"One such constituent is IGF-1, a hormone found in some animal products that's linked to cancer in high doses. The petitioners suspect AquAdvantage salmon of harboring elevated levels of IGF-1, and challenge AquaBounty's claim that IGF-1 levels in AquAdvantage salmon are no greater than in normal salmon. The petition says AquaBounty's own data suggest IGF-1 levels could be higher in the GE salmon."
So, those who say that food can't be a source of acne are not well-versed in my opinion. It appears that more and more of the food supply is becoming polluted, and therefore becoming increasing harder for those of us who suffer this condition to find solutions. You notice they only mention cancer risk and not the effect it may have on acne..which is really SAD because one of the ways we help our situation is using the omega 3s from fish..whether from the oil or through whole. Some prefer whole food to pills. I have no idea if oil taken from GMO fish will have the IGF1 in it or not. But, I think this something we need to think about. The very thing we believe we are using in good conscience to help ourselves very well could end up having the adverse effect. 
Oh, I also wanted to say that anyone taking flax oil for the 3:
ALA found in plant based foods are similar to the Omega 3 you find in fish (DHA and EPA). ALA must be converted to EPA and DHA, which you body can do, but I have read it is a small % rate conversion. However, you may have an inability or reduced ability to convert due to a faulty D6D enzyme. The D6D enzyme may be inhibited by many factors including: too much Omega 6 (like our normal American diet provides--and can reduce the conversion by 40%), deficiency in co factors of Vit B3, B6, C, zinc and magnesium....
That is the reason many people prefer to use fish oil because no conversion through the D6D enzyme is needed--the EPA and DHA are already formed and ready to be used by the body. However, I did read somewhere that IF you completely cut out your ALA to bypass the D6D enzyme, your body will have a reduced ability to use the enzyme (which you need for other functions). lack of use will cause it to atrophy I guess. Anyhow, if you are going to use strictly fish or fish oil, might still add in some plant based ALA just to keep the enzyme active.
As to flax inhibiting hormones.... from my research, flax oil itself will not have any estrogenic activity whatsoever UNLESS you consume the lignans. I am NOT a doctor or scientist--this is what i have gathered from doing my own research on the net. Most bottled flax oil will have the lignans removed unless you specifically buy one labeled. I have one with lignans because lignans were shown to enhance the conversion of ALA to DHA and EPA. If you use flax without them, the conversion rate may be much lower, and it is already low in the first place. On the flip side, if you add lignans, you are going to introduce an estrogen effect.
Lignans: increases good estrogen metabolism. These plant estrogens weakly mimic our own natural estrogen. They help balance hormones by: decreasing high estrogen in women before menopause and increase estrogen after menopause. They are anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-cancer, anti-diabetic, anti-oxidant, anti-inflammatory and anti-cholesterol. From what I understand lignans closely resemble the natural estrogen enough that they can bind to our receptors..this means if you have little natural estrogen, lignans fill in the gap. Therefore, the natural estrogen is removed from the body.
As far as it causing cancer, I have read the contrary. While many cancers are estrogen dependent or driven, plant estrogens are much weaker. So, from what I have read says that by having the plant estrogens attach to the receptors, the powerful real estrogen can't work havoc..when it is removed out of the body, it helps protect the body from constant estrogen influx and gives it a break because the phytoestrogens meet our needs prompting our own hormones to take a break from making estrogen. Phytoestrogens can lengthen menstrual cycles (which reduces amount of estrogen) and reduce breast tenderness, swelling and PMS.
Sites I read say phytoestrogens take about a week to build up in the body...so I guess one should expect at least that long to see any results. After stopping, the effects (what I think it was saying) are gone in 48-72 hours. Also, as with anything, take a break of at least a few weeks every now and then. I alternate between fish oil and flax. I'll take one for a month or so, then switch to the other.
BTW, previously I mentioned I have flax oil with lignans. I have used it maybe a month--I didn't realize the lignans were not coming out in the previous bottle. lol I through they were super finely ground, but apparently they all settled on the bottom of the bottle and I never knew it until the oil was gone (dark brown bottle). I had severe cystic breakouts 2 weeks before my period for 2 months and I had no idea what was causing it, so I stopped everything new. I took the oil, but not the lignans in it. This month, so far so good. I do NOT think the lignans caused the breakouts, however. I think I have narrowed that down to using too many products and dried out my skin because i was not moisturizing. I was using .3%retinol about every night plus BP in the mornings..glycolic acid cream sometimes to remove flakes... I believe at this point, my skin was damaged and it had a reaction because once I cut back and started using moisturizer, my skin is again normal. However, I add this because I am not 100% sure what caused the problems so I felt I should mention this just in case. Always be diligent and watch for adverse reactions. 
Again no scientist or expert here--just passing along information I have found in my own search for my personal "cure". I hope it might help someone else.
Reading this book called The Brain Diet, has a few good chapters on the gut/brain connection. I wish it cited it's sources instead of mentioning "a study by japanese researchers in 2008," but I have found one of the studies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12894686
Apparently, Omega 3 fats can greatly enhance the effectiveness of omega 3s probiotics, improving the amount that adheres to the gut. Perhaps not by coincidence, this is something reccomended in GAPS protocal I believe. The author says things like saturated fat inhibit growth, but I can't seem to find the studies. Will update later if I do.
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Reading this book called The Brain Diet, has a few good chapters on the gut/brain connection. I wish it cited it's sources instead of mentioning "a study by japanese researchers in 2008," but I have found one of the studies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12894686
Apparently, Omega 3 fats can greatly enhance the effectiveness of omega 3s, improving the amount that adheres to the gut. Perhaps not by coincidence, this is something reccomended in GAPS protocal I believe. The author says things like saturated fat inhibit growth, but I can't seem to find the studies. Will update later if I do.
That is interesting! Now is this the reasoning behind why Omega 3s are considered to be anti-inflammatory for the whole body? If they enhance probiotics, which improves digestion and immune function would that constitute the lowering of the body's overall inflammation factor? Which could then lead to fewer acne responses (at least more severe ones)?
I got a question about that. On Friday I purchased Omega 3 Fish oil supplements from GNC (1000 mgs) It says on the bottle to take it once to twice a day. If I took it three times a day is that considered an overdose? Sorry if thats a stupid question but I need to know the answer
Would it be ok if you will take it twice a day? I am also taking krill oil supplements but I'm just taking it once a day. 🙂
Well that's the thing. You can only eat so much fish before over consumption of mercury is a concern - so... even if you are able to eat and like eating fish, these supplements are a nice way of getting the fatty acids without poisoning yourself accidently if your fish addicted 
Speaking of which... I've been eating too much sushi lately, LOL!
Yulia)
I've been taking strong Omega 3 fish oil supplements (one per day) for a few months now, and I'm impressed by them. I have had far less new acne since I started taking them, but to be honest I can't be sure whether that is because of them or some other factor.
I have a question though, that I think is better suited to this thread than creating a whole new one. I'm bothered about how they are called "Omega 3 FATTY acids". I am a tad overweight and on a diet designed to steadily lose weight over time but should I stop taking the fish oil? I know not all fats are bad but, I'm trying really hard to not eat badly and really struggle with controlling my appetite so I would be horrified if all of my effort is being wasted because I'm taking these fish oil capsules!
According to the label each capsule has 1300mg of fish oil, 351mg of EPA and 234mg of DHA.
Sorry for my ignorance on this, any advice would be appreciated.
I've been taking strong Omega 3 fish oil supplements (one per day) for a few months now, and I'm impressed by them. I have had far less new acne since I started taking them, but to be honest I can't be sure whether that is because of them or some other factor.
I have a question though, that I think is better suited to this thread than creating a whole new one. I'm bothered about how they are called "Omega 3 FATTY acids". I am a tad overweight and on a diet designed to steadily lose weight over time but should I stop taking the fish oil? I know not all fats are bad but, I'm trying really hard to not eat badly and really struggle with controlling my appetite so I would be horrified if all of my effort is being wasted because I'm taking these fish oil capsules!
According to the label each capsule has 1300mg of fish oil, 351mg of EPA and 234mg of DHA.
Sorry for my ignorance on this, any advice would be appreciated.
The short version:
fat good, carbohydrates bad
There are far more uses for fat in your body than there are for carbohydrates. There is only one use for carbohydrates: the creation of insulin. Fat, protein, and carbs can all be converted into insulin, but because there's literally nothing else your body can do with carbohydrates, it all either gets flushed out (fiber) or it gets turned into insulin. When we have too much insulin, it gets converted in body fat.
Fat on the other hand, can be broken down and used to repair a wide variety of cells in your body.
That said, if you eat too much of anything, it will be converted into insulin, then body fat. You don't want to eat too much fat, but you're far better off taking fish oil and skipping your grain-based snack than dropping the fish oil.
I would add that there are good fats and bad fats. The vegetable fats you find in processed products are obviously bad and you should limit them if you want to lose weight. The ones found in food like fish etc. are supposed to be good.
Thanks for the assist. It's easy to forget stuff like this when you're at work 
i have question about fish oils and zinc medications. i'm new here and i have acne, i dont take any medicines. my skin doesn't oild much but it gets dry. will fish oil help with my skin? and will it prevent future acne? and how about zinc? they are both inflammatory so i'm wondering if i need to buy both of them and take them together, they look pretty much the same.
does cod liver oil have fatty acids 3 , 6 and 9 ?
I am not 100% sure on the cod oil, but flax has them. Ok, just looked up twinlab cod liver oil and it is only showing omega 3. Hope that helps.
i have question about fish oils and zinc medications. i'm new here and i have acne, i dont take any medicines. my skin doesn't oild much but it gets dry. will fish oil help with my skin? and will it prevent future acne? and how about zinc? they are both inflammatory so i'm wondering if i need to buy both of them and take them together, they look pretty much the same.
Zinc is a non inflammatory and I have seen improvement with acne while using it, but be careful on the dose. High doses for long periods of time can supress your immune system. As far as fish oil, as a non inflammatory it could help with acne. Depends on what type of acne you have. Since everyone is different, it's more or less a trial and error to see if works on a particular individual or not. 🙂
I've been taking strong Omega 3 fish oil supplements (one per day) for a few months now, and I'm impressed by them. I have had far less new acne since I started taking them, but to be honest I can't be sure whether that is because of them or some other factor.
I have a question though, that I think is better suited to this thread than creating a whole new one. I'm bothered about how they are called "Omega 3 FATTY acids". I am a tad overweight and on a diet designed to steadily lose weight over time but should I stop taking the fish oil? I know not all fats are bad but, I'm trying really hard to not eat badly and really struggle with controlling my appetite so I would be horrified if all of my effort is being wasted because I'm taking these fish oil capsules!
According to the label each capsule has 1300mg of fish oil, 351mg of EPA and 234mg of DHA.
Sorry for my ignorance on this, any advice would be appreciated.
The short version:
fat good, carbohydrates bad
There are far more uses for fat in your body than there are for carbohydrates. There is only one use for carbohydrates: the creation of insulin. Fat, protein, and carbs can all be converted into insulin, but because there's literally nothing else your body can do with carbohydrates, it all either gets flushed out (fiber) or it gets turned into insulin. When we have too much insulin, it gets converted in body fat.
Fat on the other hand, can be broken down and used to repair a wide variety of cells in your body.
That said, if you eat too much of anything, it will be converted into insulin, then body fat. You don't want to eat too much fat, but you're far better off taking fish oil and skipping your grain-based snack than dropping the fish oil.
Bearishly,
The 'science' you have just stated about insulin and carbs is about as far from scientifically accurate as possible. Please go read up on the subject. You have COMPLETELY misunderstood this topic.
Regards,
Listener
On the subject of Omega oils from fish via supplements and the recent studies claiming them to cause cancer:
Check out the posts by Lionel Martin Trx Rkc, he sounds like he knows what he's talking about, huh?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/omega-3s-prostate-cancer_b_3659735.html
And:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-supplement-guru-does-fish-oil-cause-prostate-cancer.html
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i used to have really oily skin until i started taking omega 3's as well. i started out with flax and have switched to fish oil since
flax does not have epa or dha which are potent acne fighters, plus it contains oleic acid(omega 9) and linoleic acid(omega 6) linoliec acid is really bad for acne.
fish oil is absolutely perfect for what our bodys need.
I read that flax oil has the perfect 3 to 6 omega ratio. One of the more superior oils. Is this not correct? ?
