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  1. Ernesto, how are you doing now man? Very curious how things turned out after your last treatment! Your results are ASTONISHING and incredibly inspirational! I seriously applaud you for having the courage to be vulnerable and post pictures of your whole journey through this process. Not everyone has the courage to do so. I find it so awesome of you to take the time out of your life to update everyone on your progress throughout. I really hope that you're doing amazing now and wish you all the best! xx

    P.S. If you have the time in the future, we would love an update on how you're doing now! :)

  2. Hi! I'm so glad you're back! I've wondered how you were doing many times over the last few months. So glad to hear you're finding success!! That's great news!

    I have had huge success on the regimen. I have been on it about 4 months now and have been consistently clear for about 6 weeks. I had many frustrations the first couple months with getting really clear and then all of the sudden having a horrible breakout. I stuck with it because it said it would take 3-4 months to get completely clear. I'm so glad I did!! You never realize how traumatic a thing like acne can be until you go through it.

    A few weeks ago I went to Sephora to find something to help with all the hyperpigmentation. I ended up getting some glycolic pads called Bliss Incredi-peel glycolic pads. I have been using them about three times a week and they are really helping to fade my spots! I have to be very gentle with using them as to not cause irritation and mess up my regimen. All in all I am soooooo happy with my results! I really hope I can get my skin back to where it was before I lost my mind and rubbed castor oil all over my face for two months!

    Also I know there are several at home peels you can order from Amazon. I've tried several of them and liked them but that was before OCM. You might be more comfortable having a professional do it. I know I am scared to try anything new now! I'm really happy you are back to the sight and doing so well! Keep me posted on how you are doing!

    I am SO SO SO glad to hear that your skin is clear and totally clear for six weeks as well! That's amazing! From where both of us started, it seems like we've both had some serious progress. I don't think I've had as much progress as you and others on here because unfortunately, the OCM really did some permanent damage to my skin. I'm hoping that since my scars are less than a year old, that I can find some way to make them more shallow before it's too late. I've been focusing a lot on my scarring because it's the one thing that has really depleted my self confidence. I've pretty much come to terms with the fact that I have hormonal acne (the only place I ever seem to breakout is my jawline and around my mouth) so I do what I can to deal with that and it's definitely gotten significantly better. But I live in Southern California so when the sunlight hits the rolling scars on my cheeks, it just mortifies me. I've never had scarring in this way in my entire life so that's the one thing that has really been messing with me. The doctors tell me that there is no way to permanently get rid of them and have smooth skin again. I try not to let that get to me and try to stay positive and hope for the best. But I'll tell you, to be told that at 22-years-old is really heartbreaking. If for nothing else, THIS is why I highly suggest to others NOT to try OCM. Pimples and acne can be dealt with but scarring is permanent. I'm so thankful for this website because no one else I know can begin to understand how this feels. I'm also incredibly thankful to have met you and others on this board who know exactly what I'm going through (not the scarring but everything else). It definitely helps me get through the tough times knowing that you all are here! comfort.gif

    I actually was going to head to Sephora today to try and find some makeup to help hide the deeper scars that I have so I'm totally going to check out those pads! I'm not sure if I'll be purchasing them because as you said too, I'm pretty scared to change up anything in my current regimen lol! They sound really awesome though and definitely something I could benefit from. Do you find that they cause you to breakout a little after you use them or does your skin stay perfectly clear if you use them gently? And by gently, do you mean that you just lightly apply pressure when you apply it to your face, or do you kind of blot the solution all over your face so that you don't rub & irritate your skin? Sorry for the multiple questions but I'm definitely interested in these! Any advice is always greatly appreciated! :) Those peels from Amazon are where I found the Skinceuticals brand too. The reviews and everything sound AMAZING but as you said, I'm pretty scared to try anything new! I'm probably going to continue my TCA set and once I'm done with that, I'll most likely end up trying out some of the at home and less invasive peels. Speaking of Amazon, have you tried the Aztec Secret Healing Clay Mask?? You can find it at Whole Foods and similar stores too. If you haven't tried it, you totally should. It sucks up just about ALL the bad stuff in your face and really tightens your pores. I've heard from people in the entertainment industry that a lot of models use it the night before a photoshoot because it really tightens the pores and makes their skin look like perfection.

    I'm really glad to hear that you're doing so well girly. Defeating the battle with acne is a better gift than just about anything in my book! Definitely keep me posted how things go, if you change anything with your routines, and if you find any more awesome products!

  3. Syllacrostics - I realized that our reply's were getting quite long so I thought it might be easier for us-and other readers-if I posted a new response. That is seriously some great information! I definitely think you described the difference between hyperpigmentation and erythma perfectly! You explained it in a way that I can understand which is awesome. The next time I wash my face, I'm going to press down on the marks and figure out what I really have going on. I've never heard of the Makeup Artist's Choice brand for the peels but I like the fact that yours comes in a kit with the pH prep solution. I found a lot of good responses about the Skinceuticals brand and their lactic acid peels....do you know anything about the difference between these two brands? I'm going to dig in and research the two because it sounds like that is right up my alley!

    In conjunction with your response about looking good into your 50's, I feel the same way! Haha. I plan on getting a TON of these TCA peels (unfortunately, it seems like I got the worst permanent damage to my skin from the OCM out of everyone here) and since they get rid of fine lines and everything else, hopefully the both of us will be looking young and renewed through our 50's! hifive.gif

    What's so crazy is that my father has the most INCREDIBLE skin I've ever seen. He's 63 and looks like he's 45 because he has only the smallest and unnoticeable lines. Aside from that, his skin is FLAWLESS! Not a mark or blemish in sight. Now my mother on the hand, it's clear I've taken after her. Haha. Hopefully as I get older, my genetics will fall in line a little more with my dad's than my mom's. Here's to hoping! eusa_pray.gif

  4. On 10/23/2013 at 6:17 AM, syllacrostics said:
    On 10/23/2013 at 5:24 AM, smarie23 said:
    On 8/7/2013 at 1:20 AM, alisonp27 said:

    I know it's so frustrating! I used to leave the house without makeup all the time. I even quit my gym because I don't want to sweat with makeup on but I won't dare leave the house without it. Ugh!! I've used Proactiv since I was 16 and my skin was always great but it has done nothing for me since OCM destroyed my face. I quit using it altogether. I'm following the regimen religiously now. I am using over the counter products that are on the list of products aporoved for the regimen. My skin is getting better for sure. I still get new pimples daily but they are getting less. And my skin is MUCH less inflamed. I have some hope at least! I'll keep you posted and please keep me posted as well!

    Hello soul sister!! I'm SO sorry for not being on this site recently. I could not log into my account to save my life and I was finally able to get it straightened out today!

    I read your posts that I missed and it seems like things are continuing to look up for you! I'm really happy for you!! Are you still on the regimen and doing well?

    I actually decided to go a different route...I have always been interested in switching to an all-natural approach (hence the attempt at OCM) so I figured that I would try it because I really have nothing else left to lose. My mindset is that if it doesn't work and I break out badly, then I will know for sure that my skin needs some sort of inorganic chemicals or whatnot (like BP) in order to get better. I purchased some products from the Acure skin care line and have really liked the products that I got. You should google them (since I can't include a link) and check out their acne products! Their ingredients are amazing and all fair trade which is pretty cool. They make my skin feel GOOD! You know how Proactiv just strips your skin of anything beneficial really? These products keep your skin moisturized but not oily at all. The oil controlling moisturizer that I got is AMAZING. I spent about $15 on each of the 4 products I got and they last for months and months-a lot longer than Proactiv products! I purchased an exfoliant for $15 or $19 and all you need to use is a pea-size drop because the ingredients are so amazing and as we know, you don't want to scratch up your face with too much exfoliant so this bottle could literally last you a year or longer! One thing that really made me switch to this line was thinking about the quality of my skin as I get older. The harshness of Proactiv and similar products made me wonder what my skin will look like in 10-20 years after daily stripping of moisture and other essential things. I want to keep my skin nicely moisturized because honestly, I want to age well! Not like I'm old whatsoever (22) but when I look at pictures of women that have aged well, it's because the quality of their skin has been well maintained.

    Since my skin has depleted my self-confidence and has been keeping me home all the time, I realized that my life was not going to get better until I get this under control. I have been looking into chemical peels for a while because I have TERRIBLE scars from the OCM. I have deep rolling and icepick scars, as well as terrible hyperpigmentation all over my face. Don't even get me started on pore size! Aside from the acne, it's the scars that have really affected me emotionally. I simply don't feel beautiful in any way. I'm not saying I'm a knockout but I think that every person is beautiful in their own way but I just don't feel like that about myself as I once did.

    When I got a break from college about two months ago, I went back home and called my doctor to inquire about chemical peels. Kaiser Permanente is my insurance provider and they have a Cosmetic Center for things like chemical peels, botox, lip injections, nose jobs, etc. These services aren't covered by insurance but they are the same price as anywhere else you could go and you know you're in good hands. I'm not interested in anything but the chemical peel and I felt very confident knowing that it was going to be done by someone at Kaiser rather than some stand-alone cosmetic center. I have previously paid $600 to go to a stand-alone cosmetic center in Beverly Hills (sounds totally legitimate, right?) and the nurses told me the complete INCORRECT way of taking care of my skin after the procedure so that $600 went down the drain. I ended up getting the 30% TCA peel from Kaiser which consists of a bit of a recovery process (nothing painful, just dramatic peeling skin like the worst sunburn you can imagine) but I was staying at my father's place so I didn't have to go out of the house too much like that. Now, the chemical peels are definitely not a miracle worker. The nurses told me that this would not get rid of my scars, but getting a set of peels could help. The first peel did reduce the depth of some scars very minutely but hey, it's some improvement! Aside from the scars, it seems to have seriously improved my acne. I still get breakouts on my jawline (hormonal acne) but I'm hoping to balance that with a clean diet, vitamins, and exercise. Aside from my jaw, I have like one small pimple that pops up randomly but it goes away pretty dang quickly which is nice!

    The peel was $250 for a full face 30% TCA chemical peel. To me, that was a pretty average and reasonable price for what you get. I'm relatively happy with the results and I plan on getting this chemical peel every 2-3 months until I see dramatic improvement. I'm more than willing to spend that kind of money to see actual results and improve my self-confidence. I would really recommend to anyone on here to try one of these peels out. If you take care of your skin as directed after the procedure, you are guaranteed to see some sort of results which is awesome! I'm now back at home living life and using my Acure products until I go home for the holidays and get my next peel.

    Sorry for my long post but it's been a while since we were able to catch up so I wanted to give you the full run-down of everything [Edited image out] fill me in with everything going on with you too! I'm so interested to know how things have been going for you and I really hope you're having success too!!

    On 8/9/2013 at 12:33 AM, syllacrostics said:

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    On 8/8/2013 at 5:35 AM, alisonp27 said:

    I know I updated yesterday but I have to tell you today is the best my face has looked since this whole OCM nightmare began! I have a ton of red marks from the acne but I currently only have 3 actual pimples. My face was COVERED in acne. I even felt comfortable enough to wear my hair up today because I didn't feel the need to hide behind it! I really encourage you to try the regimen. Keep me posted [Edited image out]

    How are your red marks? Or, what do they look like?

    For me, the places where I had very big cyst-like spots have really red marks, and not just small circular ones, but big smudge-y looking ones, if that makes sense. Anyway, the skin is definitely flatter than the horrific bumpy mess that was there before, but it's left that area of my face so red and nasty. I'm hoping I haven't done some damage to it some how... making the redness so much worse than usual.

    Hey there SyllaCrostics! I hear you on the red, blotchy marks!! If you look above and see my response to alisonp27, I wrote that partially for you as well because it sounds like you might be able to find some solace and get rid of some of the scarring with a chemical peel (or a set like I'm doing). I know they're not exactly cheap but they are something that I'm more than happy to save for because you will see results, even just minor results, and anything helps at this point in my opinion!

    How are you doing as well with your acne and scarring? It's been a while since I've been able to get on here so I'd love to hear what's been going on with you recently and if you've been able to find some solutions as well! We're all in this struggle together and I'm really wishing the best for you!! [Edited image out] Keep me posted when you get the chance!

    Hi smarie! I'm glad to know you're getting better! [Edited image out]

    My skin is a lot better than it was in the summer. I've had some setbacks but it's finally staying clear now! [Edited image out] I feel a world of difference in my confidence. My red marks have faded considerably, but they're still pretty noticeable.

    Recently, witch hazel has seemed to be helping a lot with them. I've learned they are mostly erythema rather than hyper-pigmentation, and the witch hazel is calming to them. I also use a lactic acid peel occasionally to help with the more brown spots. I'm lucky and incredibly grateful for the fact that none of my acne left me with any indented scarring.

    Today I got my hair cut which is a huge step forward for me self-conscious wise.. not only can I not hide behind my hair as much, but having someone that close to my head, my hair being pinned up.. sitting by a window on a busy street (!!) .. these are all things that would have had me running to hide not all that long ago.

    Your post made me smile because compared with your op at the top of this thread, you seem a lot happier! Congrats on the success and I hope you see continued improvement! Keep us posted! [Edited image out] xx

    Wowza!!! Sounds like you are doing AMAZING!!! I'm SO happy for you [Edited image out] I have a toner with witch hazel and red tea so I'm hoping I have some similar results as you! I've actually looked into some of those lactic acid peels too because they sound awesome....do you do yours yourself at home? What kind did you purchase and how do you use it? Also, how did you know that you had erythema instead of hyperpigmentation? Sorry for all the questions but it really sounds like you've made AMAZING progress! How awesome!

    Oh geez, I know what you mean about the haircut [Edited image out] (haha there were so many great emoticons to use for my feeling about that).The natural light, washing of the hair meaning washing off your makeup, etc.....yeah I'm not looking forward to that!

  5. What oils were you using?

    Hello everyone!

    Thank you for stopping by this post! This is my first post on Acne.org and I can't believe it's taken me this long. I need help guys, so badly. In about October 2012, I read about the Oil Cleansing Method and before doing any sort of thorough research, I began the method. I am very interested and involved in natural and homeopathic remedies so I was thrilled when I discovered this! Within two months, my skin was as awful as it's ever been. Bumps and cystic acne EVERYWHERE.

    I initially used 2/3 olive oil and 1/3 castor, then maybe 3 weeks later I replaced the olive oil with coconut oil. All of that was such a big mistake, haha. Apparently those are the worst offenders as far as comedogenic products go!

    Same issue back then when I tried to OCM, or the caveman regimen. What I did back then was to use a regular acne soap (neutrogena I believe) and pure aloe vera gel to soothe the skin. It helped, but the process took a good 2/3 weeks. Hang in there. It will get better, and it is not permanent at all. Your skin might already be better, since you've posted. Any update?

    Hey there Battle2011! I apologize for not updating recently. As I've mentioned above, I could not access my account for the life of me and just today was able to resolve this! I posted a thorough update above as a response to alisonp27 if you would like to hear about the progress I've been making.

    I actually forgot to mention though that I did look into the Caveman's Regimen as well because I heard that it helps to balance out your skin's pH after utilizing all of these different acne products on the market now. This time-before I started any sort of new regimen-I did some thorough research. I found that a lot of people who successfully tried the Caveman's method ended up with some sort of dry skin condition (I'm blanking on the name). I knew I could not let that happen to my skin after everything with the OCM but I was interested in the idea of it so I tailored it to work for me. Instead of going 30 days without washing my face, I went maybe a week or a week and a half without washing my face, then would gently wash it and moisturize, and try it again. I did not develop a dry skin condition, nor did it help with breakouts (probably made them worse actually) but I felt like it helped to get my skin back to a relatively normal pH after everything that happened. I was able to begin using Acure skin care products and actually see some good results. Now (after my TCA chemical peel as well) my skin stays relatively clear using Cetaphil which is pretty cool! I'm sure it's for the most part due to the chemical peel but I like to think that I did my skin's pH a little good by not washing it for a week at a time for a couple weeks.

    Did you purchase a bottle of Aloe Vera gel or did you extract your own from an aloe leaf? Just a little FYI in case you didn't know, I found HUGE aloe leaves for sale at Whole Foods for $1.99 and you can get a whole lot of the pure gel just from that. I'm sure you already know that though :) I like putting the aloe in smoothies and stuff as I'm a little scared to put it on my face, haha. I just have a feeling that it wouldn't be the right substance for my own skin but I know a lot of people that love it!

  6. Never use oil on your face if you have oily skin, ever. Here's the thing about the oil cleansing method, its great for very dry skin types that don't experience breakouts. That's the thing. Many people say the oils are good for the skin, but then forget to mention what type of skin its good for. For oily/or break out prone skin, you want to use a basic cleanser such as "Cerave" for oily skin (there are 2 different types); you can get it at CVS or Walgreens for $15. Then use a pure clay mask once or twice a week (depending on how sensitive your skin is); such as "Bentonite Clay", "Aztec Healing Clay", or "French Green Clay", which you can find at an organic store or on Amazon. Don't go for the pre-mixed ones, from the Body Shop, or Sephora, etc... unless you are familiar with all skincare ingredients and what they do. As I said, the more simple the better. I know from years of experience. And if you feel like you need something topical on your skin during the daytime, try using a spot treatment just on the areas of inflammation, or a toner such as Witchhazel extract* (bacteria and inflammation killing); but make sure its alcohol and fragrance free. The brand "Thayers" makes a great one that also includes Cucumber Extract (very calming); can find on amazon or organic store as well. If you feel like you're skin is dry and needs some hydration after this--pure hylauronic acid. Unlike a moisturizer which leaves a layer of oil on your skin and clogs the pores (even if it says its oil free/the labels means nothing, anyone can label their products that)... It will hydrate your skin from the inside out instead. Once again, Amazon. But always start out with the minimum. If you want to learn more about skincare and ingredients look up: Paula's Choice. great information, but don't buy her products, all this great information and then her products completely contradict what she is preaching. (Unfortunately this happens way too often with skincare companies). Also, seeing an Esthetician is always a good idea:) because we do the work for you, just make sure they are legit beforehand, and that they know ingredients. always do your research. Good luck!

    Great great great advice!!!! I WISH I had done this instead of OCM and I hope that anyone contemplating OCM can read your post first and try that. I have the Aztec Clay and it's AMAZING! It sucks up everything on your face without a doubt! I do have a question for you....I used the Aztec Healing Clay mask (the one in the tub from Amazon and Whole Foods) and the last two times I used it, it made me breakout incredibly bad. I know because of how strong it is that it will pull things to the top of your skin and purge everything, but the pimples just remained there. My skin was fully clear (the last time I used it was maybe 8 months ago) and I used the mask, got a ton of breakouts and then couldn't get rid of them for a LONG time-longer than ever before. I'm not sure what really changed. I have always used half water, half Bragg's ACV to mix the clay so I didn't really change anything on my end. Do you have any advice or recommendations? I'd love to be able to use the mask again without being scared out of my mind that it will ruin my skin!

    Also, what's your opinion of your skincare recommendations above versus using a natural skincare line? I took a break from using my favorite Acure skincare products when I got a TCA peel and switched to Cetaphil and Aquaphor because as I'm sure you know, you have to be very gentle and moisturize excessively after the peel. It's been about 6 weeks since the peel and I'm still using Cetaphil and a light layer of Aquaphor because I'm waiting to speak to the nurse about switching back to my normal products. My skin is actually still relatively clear on Cetaphil and Aquaphor, although I'm sure the aquaphor is getting to be too heavy because I'm still breaking out on my jawline and right under my earlobes. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you so much for taking the time to read and respond to this board! All the input I've been getting has truly been invaluable.

  7. I know it's so frustrating! I used to leave the house without makeup all the time. I even quit my gym because I don't want to sweat with makeup on but I won't dare leave the house without it. Ugh!! I've used Proactiv since I was 16 and my skin was always great but it has done nothing for me since OCM destroyed my face. I quit using it altogether. I'm following the regimen religiously now. I am using over the counter products that are on the list of products aporoved for the regimen. My skin is getting better for sure. I still get new pimples daily but they are getting less. And my skin is MUCH less inflamed. I have some hope at least! I'll keep you posted and please keep me posted as well!

    Hello soul sister!! I'm SO sorry for not being on this site recently. I could not log into my account to save my life and I was finally able to get it straightened out today!

    I read your posts that I missed and it seems like things are continuing to look up for you! I'm really happy for you!! Are you still on the regimen and doing well?

    I actually decided to go a different route...I have always been interested in switching to an all-natural approach (hence the attempt at OCM) so I figured that I would try it because I really have nothing else left to lose. My mindset is that if it doesn't work and I break out badly, then I will know for sure that my skin needs some sort of inorganic chemicals or whatnot (like BP) in order to get better. I purchased some products from the Acure skin care line and have really liked the products that I got. You should google them (since I can't include a link) and check out their acne products! Their ingredients are amazing and all fair trade which is pretty cool. They make my skin feel GOOD! You know how Proactiv just strips your skin of anything beneficial really? These products keep your skin moisturized but not oily at all. The oil controlling moisturizer that I got is AMAZING. I spent about $15 on each of the 4 products I got and they last for months and months-a lot longer than Proactiv products! I purchased an exfoliant for $15 or $19 and all you need to use is a pea-size drop because the ingredients are so amazing and as we know, you don't want to scratch up your face with too much exfoliant so this bottle could literally last you a year or longer! One thing that really made me switch to this line was thinking about the quality of my skin as I get older. The harshness of Proactiv and similar products made me wonder what my skin will look like in 10-20 years after daily stripping of moisture and other essential things. I want to keep my skin nicely moisturized because honestly, I want to age well! Not like I'm old whatsoever (22) but when I look at pictures of women that have aged well, it's because the quality of their skin has been well maintained.

    Since my skin has depleted my self-confidence and has been keeping me home all the time, I realized that my life was not going to get better until I get this under control. I have been looking into chemical peels for a while because I have TERRIBLE scars from the OCM. I have deep rolling and icepick scars, as well as terrible hyperpigmentation all over my face. Don't even get me started on pore size! Aside from the acne, it's the scars that have really affected me emotionally. I simply don't feel beautiful in any way. I'm not saying I'm a knockout but I think that every person is beautiful in their own way but I just don't feel like that about myself as I once did.

    When I got a break from college about two months ago, I went back home and called my doctor to inquire about chemical peels. Kaiser Permanente is my insurance provider and they have a Cosmetic Center for things like chemical peels, botox, lip injections, nose jobs, etc. These services aren't covered by insurance but they are the same price as anywhere else you could go and you know you're in good hands. I'm not interested in anything but the chemical peel and I felt very confident knowing that it was going to be done by someone at Kaiser rather than some stand-alone cosmetic center. I have previously paid $600 to go to a stand-alone cosmetic center in Beverly Hills (sounds totally legitimate, right?) and the nurses told me the complete INCORRECT way of taking care of my skin after the procedure so that $600 went down the drain. I ended up getting the 30% TCA peel from Kaiser which consists of a bit of a recovery process (nothing painful, just dramatic peeling skin like the worst sunburn you can imagine) but I was staying at my father's place so I didn't have to go out of the house too much like that. Now, the chemical peels are definitely not a miracle worker. The nurses told me that this would not get rid of my scars, but getting a set of peels could help. The first peel did reduce the depth of some scars very minutely but hey, it's some improvement! Aside from the scars, it seems to have seriously improved my acne. I still get breakouts on my jawline (hormonal acne) but I'm hoping to balance that with a clean diet, vitamins, and exercise. Aside from my jaw, I have like one small pimple that pops up randomly but it goes away pretty dang quickly which is nice!

    The peel was $250 for a full face 30% TCA chemical peel. To me, that was a pretty average and reasonable price for what you get. I'm relatively happy with the results and I plan on getting this chemical peel every 2-3 months until I see dramatic improvement. I'm more than willing to spend that kind of money to see actual results and improve my self-confidence. I would really recommend to anyone on here to try one of these peels out. If you take care of your skin as directed after the procedure, you are guaranteed to see some sort of results which is awesome! I'm now back at home living life and using my Acure products until I go home for the holidays and get my next peel.

    Sorry for my long post but it's been a while since we were able to catch up so I wanted to give you the full run-down of everything :) fill me in with everything going on with you too! I'm so interested to know how things have been going for you and I really hope you're having success too!!

    I know I updated yesterday but I have to tell you today is the best my face has looked since this whole OCM nightmare began! I have a ton of red marks from the acne but I currently only have 3 actual pimples. My face was COVERED in acne. I even felt comfortable enough to wear my hair up today because I didn't feel the need to hide behind it! I really encourage you to try the regimen. Keep me posted smile.png

    How are your red marks? Or, what do they look like?

    For me, the places where I had very big cyst-like spots have really red marks, and not just small circular ones, but big smudge-y looking ones, if that makes sense. Anyway, the skin is definitely flatter than the horrific bumpy mess that was there before, but it's left that area of my face so red and nasty. I'm hoping I haven't done some damage to it some how... making the redness so much worse than usual.

    Hey there SyllaCrostics! I hear you on the red, blotchy marks!! If you look above and see my response to alisonp27, I wrote that partially for you as well because it sounds like you might be able to find some solace and get rid of some of the scarring with a chemical peel (or a set like I'm doing). I know they're not exactly cheap but they are something that I'm more than happy to save for because you will see results, even just minor results, and anything helps at this point in my opinion!

    How are you doing as well with your acne and scarring? It's been a while since I've been able to get on here so I'd love to hear what's been going on with you recently and if you've been able to find some solutions as well! We're all in this struggle together and I'm really wishing the best for you!! :) Keep me posted when you get the chance!

  8. The way to remove the damage caused by the oil cleansing method is to use an all natural organic soap on a regular basis. Your soap should not contain any chemicles, perfumes or dyes. I use Buzzy's Essentials soap which has Dead Sea Mud and Salts that help detoxify the skin and eliminate the dirt and oils. After about a week of using this soap my acne was non existant. You can buy organic soaps from any organic food store, but I stick with Buzzy's Essentials because I know that it works buzzysessentials.com

    Thank you for the tips!! I'm not sure if you read my above posts but I really would like to try to remain on an all-natural regimen from now on so I really appreciate your recommendations! I actually recently purchased a few products from the Acure line....have you heard anything about the line? It seems to be working nicely as far as the overall tone of my skin but obviously, I have a long way to go. Do you know if Whole Foods has the Buzzy's Essentials line? I'm going to look into the soap and mask (just had a chemical peel so no exfoliation for me!) and I'll keep you posted if I try them! Thanks again! :)

    hi there smarie23! I feel for you. There are really times when we try treatments used by others that just don't work for us. I had experienced the same situation a few months ago and i only got a relief when i used my current regimen. I first wash my face with buzzy's essential bar, tome using dickinson's witch hazel astringent and moisturize with emu oil. This regimen worked well. I still have occasional breakouts but this regimen can calm them. You will see the results after a few days! The toner and the emu oil is available locally but for the soap, it can only be found at *Moderator edit, URL removed - read the board rules*. I cannot skip on the soap because it really helps with my breakouts.

    Hey there Sheryn M! It really sounds like this Buzzy's line is something I should look into! Yes, the process of discovering what works for your own skin is frustrating, exhausting, and often disappointing. It's so easy to get the idea that "Oh, their skin resembles mine so maybe this regimen will work for me!". That was the exact mindset when I found OCM. I saw a picture of a woman who's skin reminded me of my own. After reading her success story, along with many others, I truly believed it would work for me. This lesson was well learned! I will NEVER make assumptions like that again. My acne is almost gone now but I'm left with residual and deep scarring and it has really affected me emotionally. I hope to do everything I can to fix it and find solace someday. I would never wish this on my worst enemy which is part of the reason why I started this board was to warn others about the detrimental results I've had from this process. Again, everyone's skin is different but I really think there are a million different regimen's that should be attempted before this!

    Hope all is well for you and thank you so much for your suggestion about Buzzy's! I'll keep you posted if I try their products! :)

  9. So sorry to hear that the OCM is not working out for you cry.gif

    This is a general question for all of you who posted about bad experiences with this: did you all use coconut oil or jojoba oil?

    I recently started doing this in the mornings (not in the evening as I found that it didn't rid my face of excess makeup). I used 100% organic argan oil for this, and haven't noticed any major changes except perhaps that my skin feels slightly less dry. I use the argan oil together with Dan's regimen. But all your posts about oil causing heavy breakups are kinda scaring me here, as the last thing I want i cystic acne. (I believe I've had my fair share and then some of that, ugh!)

    So, if you could please say which oils you'd recommend that people avoid, I'd be very thankful!

    Hope you'll all soon be clear of the damage caused by OCM!

    Hi there Zophy! So sorry for my late response, my account was acting so strange and I have been unable to sign in until now! Since it's been a few months, did you end up continuing with your OCM? I'm curious as to how it has worked for you. Just in my personal opinion from my own life-changing experience with OCM, I would HIGHLY suggest to try something else. OCM changed my skin completely and it will never be able to go back to how it once was. I had the absolute worst breakouts of my life-as in random people on the street would come up to me to offer suggestions on how to fix it. I've never been so embarrassed or humiliated as when that happened to me. Not only were the breakouts terrible, but the scars that I have now have depleted my self-confidence. I have hyperpigmentation, rolling and icepick scars now. The texture of my skin is just awful and if I could go back in time and never do OCM, I would do that in a heartbeat as this is probably the biggest regret of my life so far.

    I believe the combination that I used initially was 2/3 olive oil and 1/3 castor oil. I eventually replaced olive oil with coconut oil because of all the amazing properties in coconut oil. Well, those amazing properties are much better ingested than applied topically (for people with acne-prone skin). I think the OCM success stories are from people who have clear but oily skin. In doing my own research, I have discovered that your skin really freaks out when that much oil is constantly applied as it confuses the natural oil production process-an element that is key for battling acne and preserving skin in general.

    Keep me posted with how things are going for you! I promise to be active on this site from now on now that my account is fixed :) Wishing you the best!

    Anyone reading this, PLEASE don't try this method!! I guarantee that if you're looking to improve your skin, there are a million different and more beneficial routes to go than the OCM!

  10. I use the proactiv BP! It's 2.5% just like they recommend.

    Hey lady!

    Checking in with you to see how your progress is! I'm still using the Proactiv with no avail :( I just don't get it! I was looking at pictures of myself only 2 years ago and my skin was excellent. I really wish I was able to see that back then :( and I was using Proactiv at that point! My skin has actually been great on the Proactiv up until the OCM. Now it's awful :/ I really hope you are finding success with the regimen! I am really contemplating using it but I don't know if I should just try a completely natural and organic route, or try the regimen.

    Keep me posted and I'm really crossing my fingers for you! :) good luck!

  11. Hey guys.

    For those of you who don't know me I am a long term member of the org. I've been here since 2002.

    The aim of this thread here is to share some knowledge on how to deal with acne and the psychological effects. I want everyone to know that you can beat it and be happy.

    Brief history on me. I've had acne since i was 13. I am now 26, i still have acne but i have it under control. I use the DKR which keeps me clear. Now days i do it when i can be bothered as i'm not that bothered about acne anymore. It's more physically painful when i shave if i let it get out of control as opposed to it damaging me mentally.

    I've read a lot of people's stories on here, infact i remember posting a few "help me" threads when i was 18 trying to deal with it.

    One thing that sticks above all else is how everyone allows acne to control them. I've been there as well. It kept me in my house for 2 years and i was depressed as hell. I spent so much time online that my online life felt more real than my actual life. However this lead to a downward spiral. I got so comfortable with my online life i started lying to people and making stuff up, albeit i would use real aspects of my life and just glamourised it.

    Spending your life inside your house and on the net is not the answer. It is the worst thing you can actually do.

    So why does acne destroy us mentally? Well i've come to the conclusion it's laregely down to the world we live in where we see actors on t.v who look perfect and are beatiful. We see adverts advertising beauty products and we are conditioned to believe this how we have to be. However i would say 10% of is our own ego as well. Real people don't look like this. Real people are not photoshopped to look good. No one is perfect, everyone has inperfections on their body.

    The day i started to accept my acne was a day that changed my life. It was just a normal day. Everyone was out working or having a good time and the world was passing me by. I had a bad breakout that day and was feeling very low. I was coming back from my local shop and across the street i saw a group of friends laughing and joking and having fun. One girl in this group caught my eye. She only had one arm but she couldn't be any happier. I thought to myself this girl has got it a lot worse than me and look how she is enjoying her life. She had lost an arm and didn't have a care in the world.

    From that day i started putting things into perspective. It took me about a year to get fully back on my feer but i got my life back. After a while breakouts just didnt bother me anymore, i just refuse to let it stop me.

    We have to keep in mind that there is always someone worse off than us. Most of us have a family, a roof over our heads, we know where our next meal is coming from. I make this assumption because everyone who can read this has computer and internet access so things can't be that bad. You have to take stock of what you have in life and make the most of it.

    Life is too short to let is pass you by. You have to accept that you might have acne the rest of your life. If someone told you that you only had 6 months left to live would you sit there and feel sorry for yourself or go and make everyday count? Acne is a horrible thing but it will not kill you and i for one refuse to let it stop from living. I will not be hostage to it ever again.

    You are the only one who can help you. Websites like this can support you but you have to walk through that door, you have to make yourself better. The more you sit there and do nothing the harder it will be.

    I was in the pits of depression 5 years ago. Now i have great friends, good family, a good job, a nice car. i go to the gym, I go out most weekends and i just bought my first house. I'm not boasting i'm just letting you know what can be done in 5 years and that you can do this to.

    I'm not saying i'm anyone special, i'm not saying i'm anyone's saviour. I'm just a guy who chose to change the way things were. I may lose and lose big but atleast i can say that i tried.

    I have just stumbled upon this old thread and can honestly say that out of all the posts that I have read whilst I have been on acne.org, this is just about the best and most inspiring.

    Like you, I developed acne at about the age of 12 or 13 and was bullied at school both verbally and physically because I had acne. It has led to a life long hatred of myself and obsession with acne and my skin.

    I won`t bore you with the tale but over the years because I had acne and couldn`t accept it, I have isolated myself socially, lost friendships and messed up the only two long-term relationships that I have had.

    For years I thought that everything would be ok once the acne cleared up. In the past few years it has cleared up quite a lot but because I concentrated solely on clearing my acne and not working on myself, I am still obsessed with both my skin, appearance and diet and in all honesty my acne getting better did not make me any happier.

    After the break-up of my last relationship, I have led a very lonely and isolated existence - not ideal but it was comfortable and the social situation that I was in did not require me to challenge my obsessions. However in February of this year, an event totally out of the blue totally rocked my equilibrium. It wasn`t pleasant and it made me feel extremely sad, miserable and lonely but the upshot of it was that I finally realised that I have been wasting and missing out on life and need to totally rid myself of the obsessions that I have and finally learn to accept myself otherwise I will never be happy and acquire the things that I want in life.

    I am not as strong as you were TakeToTheSkies so I am having counselling and will in the near future be commencing CBT in order to assist me. I do get what I call "interludes" where I just think fuck it - I don`t care what people think. However on other occasions, the negative thoughts are still too ingrained and overpowering. It is very much a work in progress.

    Right now I am a guy in his thirties who is lucky in enough to have a job, his own home and a great close-knit immediate family. I want other things but the only way I`m going to acquire them is by ridding myself of my obsessions learning to like and accept the way I am.

    My story is sightly different to yours and because I have left things a lot longer, it may take me more time to completely rid myself of my obsessions and learn to accept myself. However, just reading about where you came from and what you achieved in the space of five years is a great source of inspiration.

    Hi there! I know I'm quite a bit late to respond but I've been trying to cope with my acne and isolation and I came across this post. I'm sure you don't want to talk about it, but I'm very interested about what your life experience was that caused you to change your perspective on things. I'm in no way prying. I'm dealing with isolation myself and the complete OBSESSION on my skin's appearance and I could use any perspective or advice that I can get. It helps me to realize the important things in life and it helps knowing that others know what I feel like. If you would be willing to share, I would greatly appreciate it :) In fact, ANY advice or life experiences you would be willing to share would be amazing. I'm only 21, going to be 22 on Sunday, moved to a new city about 2.5 weeks ago, and have decided to spend my 22nd birthday alone because I do not want to meet anyone with how my skin is. I hope to fix it in the near future and to venture out at that point and meet people. But as for right now, I'm too embarrassed and ashamed of how my skin is to meet anyone. I appreciate anyone's advice on this topic :)

    Thank you!

  12. Smarie23 I feel ya! My skin is ruling my life these days! I feel so self concious talking to people face to face. Especially in natural light! I can hardly even bring myself to look in the mirror without makeup on! I did find something that's helping though! It's the regimen from this sight (acne.org). Im using cetaphil at night to get the makeup off, then follow with proactiv toner and benzoyl peroxide.( I use a LOT of the BP) Then in the morning I use the proactiv cleanser (being very gentle, not scrubbing at all) and follow again with the toner and BP. After the BP soaks in about 10 minutes then I moisturize. You are just basically being really gentle so you don't aggravate your skin at all. After about a week my skin looked 50 times better! I resisted the urge to scrub, pick, or use masks ( all things i had been doing in my desperate attempt at clear skin).Then I made the mistake of thinking I could do a good exfoliation. My skin flared right back up again. So I'm in the process of trying to get it under control again and this time i wont deviate from the system. Try it and please let me know how it's going! Its the only thing that has given me some hope!

    Oh wow!! Congrats on your discovery!! I have been looking into starting the regimen but have also been so apprehensive about trying ANYTHING new after the OCM situation :( Did you purchase the acne.org brand of benzyl peroxide or do you use a different kind/brand? I definitely agree with the gentle process of things as well. I know that any sort of scrubbing and serious exfoliation causes flare ups but I've just been so scared to deviate away from my Proactiv!! Damn you OCM! I think I'm going to look into this though and possible start it myself after hearing about your fantastic experience :) thanks again so much for sharing your journey with me. I hope we both find our way to clear skin soon!!!

  13. Hey everyone,

    Thanks so much for following up with me. This has been a truly awful experience for me and it's really nice to hear that most have you have gone through very similar experiences! I would like to say that ideally, I'd like to start on an all natural method for my skin. I know that's a little difficult for the circumstances but I really do and would appreciate any further responses from people who have gone through similar experiences! I stopped the OCM a while back and am now back to my routine of Proactiv but my skin is still AWFUL. As in, I used to be mostly confident and very social and now I make excuses as to why I NEVER see my friends, family, or anyone outside of my normal routine of college classes and the grocery store. If anyone has ANY advice, I mean ANY, please share! Anything helps, even a friend to talk to in a similar situation!

    Thank you all so much :)



    Hey, I read someone elses post on here that they used the OCM and ended up with a load of clooged pores and acne. She used retin a and 50mg spiro to get clear. It took her about 7 months to clear but it did work. If you have cysts it will be probably better to treat it internally at the very least. I'd say if antibiotics have not worked, then go for spiro or accutane as those are most likely to work. What ever will clear you will take a few months for the cysts to go, so give it time x

    I greatly appreciate your response Dee3 :) I actually saw my Derm recently and she said I should start the Spiro as well due to my hormonal acne. I've definitely considered it but have been nervous to begin the medication as I prefer to maintain a natural regimen-if possible! I definitely won't do Accutane as the consequences sound MUCH WORSE than the temporary resolution but again, I really thank you for responding to my post. Anything helps at this point :)



    OMG this is my story exactly! I started OCM in February. I continued doing it for 2 1/2 months even though I was breaking out like crazy! I thought it was my skin purging. Finally I couldn't take it and returned to using proactiv which has always worked for me. I've been back on proactiv for 2 months and my skin looks HORRIBLE still! I don't want to leave the house! You are not alone. I wish I had never heard of the oil cleansing method!!!

    You are my soul sister Alisonp27! I feel as though we are in the same exact boat. I HATE myself for trying the OCM. It has completely ruined my life in more ways than I can explain :( it's really nice to know that someone is out there who feels the same. I too am back on my faithful Proactiv and I too am getting no where :( that's why I think the OCM has screwed up my PH balance or something of the sort because Proactiv normally works relatively well (aside from the dry skin and small problems that I wish were the only dilemma right now) but I am getting NO WHERE as well! My skin just seems absolutely messed up from this. Have you found any sort of resolution since your post? Keep me posted! It's great having someone to talk to about this! :)

  14. Hello everyone!

    Thank you for stopping by this post! This is my first post on Acne.org and I can't believe it's taken me this long. I need help guys, so badly. In about October 2012, I read about the Oil Cleansing Method and before doing any sort of thorough research, I began the method. I am very interested and involved in natural and homeopathic remedies so I was thrilled when I discovered this! Within two months, my skin was as awful as it's ever been. Bumps and cystic acne EVERYWHERE. I initially thought it was the purging process but after about three months, I couldn't continue. It was when my coworkers (NOT the nicest women) began pointing it out, asking me rudely "if I've ever seen a dermatologist", and I went home crying that I couldn't bare this cleansing method anymore. I stopped the Oil Cleansing Method and returned to my ever faithful Proactiv system. Now, Proactiv has never actually completely cleared my skin but it's been much better than anything else out there. Except now that I've quit the oil cleansing treatment, it's not really working. Things got slightly better when I first started with Proactiv again but now it's not working. Clay face masks that once helped clear my skin don't work either. I'm currently covered with rolling scars and dark marks (hyperpigmentation from the scarring) and many, many continual pimples-both regular and cystic. I changed my diet and cut out both gluten and dairy, started incorporating much more fresh vegetables, and stopped drinking anything alcoholic except for an occasional glass of red wine. Nothing I'm doing helps my skin so I'm very concerned that I ruined the PH balance in my skin. Does anyone have any advice? Anyone ever experienced this and can offer any help? I don't go out and do anything social anymore because I don't want to meet anyone with this horrific skin. It's ruining my life and I will do ANYTHING to get it better.

    Please help!!! I greatly appreciate any responses smile.png Thank you!

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