Can anything be done about these scars? Give me some hope

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Hi, I've been reading this forum since last year, but I was too self-conscious and insecure about posting photos of my scars and asking about treatments that are advisable for me. I have make-up on these photos, but I've worn it all day and there is little left of my foundation. I was wondering if there is any sort of treatment that can help me with reducing the scarring? I've read hundreds of topics on this forum, and I literally see no hope for my scars. I've learned that any sort of treatment can give only temporary results - moreover, lasers are not safe and microneedling gives only swelling which gives the impression of an improvement. Is that true? I'll add I don't take into account any kind of filler or subcision, or laser - the last simply because of the possible side effects. I was considering TCA peel (not TCA cross, cause that is not performed in my country by any doctor...) and dermarolling/dermapen. Can I expect any improvement from microneedling? I mean permanent results, not just a temporary swelling. Please, give me some hope. I'm feeling distressed and have suicidal thoughts because of my scarring.  Is there anything I can do about them? I'm sorry about any mistakes I've done while writing this post, English is not my native language.

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If you apply the correct treatment to the correct scar the improvement can be pretty much permanent.

From the pic you have minimal deficiency to none at all and most are ice pick type or smaller boxcar.

All treatable with permenant improvement and high % improvement,obviously correct treatment applied over a long duration.
 

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Sorry if you have read hundred of topics on this forum we help thousands of people with their scars. Yours are light and textural. This is not true that any treatment is temporary. It all depends how your body heals. If you don't want filler or subcision you will get less results for not doing something effective and proven. You need TCA cross on many of your scars, so you may need to travel and have it done or do it yourself we have a guide in the FAQ. Possibly some improvement from microneedling but you would do much better with rf needling treatments with insulated needles. Microneedling has to be done for years with minimal results. Peels must be alternated when doing it. You mainly have icepicks and some boxcars so tca cross really is necessary.  

To recap you need
* TCA Cross, since no one in your country does it either travel or do it yourself.
* RF microneedling you need 3 treatments
* Several tca peels.
* You can continue to do the derminator or dermastamping at home for upkeep.

Please learn about these things in the below FAQ

Microneedling, & tca peels.

 

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Hello,

Before you get any treatment, your scarring is not severe at all!
Of course, I know my words wouldn't help a lot at this point, because everyone feels sensitive to his/her own skin.
But seriously your current skin already looks fine. I'm not exaggerating.
So, stay positive. Positive mindset will help you heal and regenerate your skin during the treatment.
Anyway sorry for the absence of practical advice.

Hope you find a great dermatologist, and see great progress!

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I think your skills looks good, your scars are very minor. I wouldn't worry about them at all. If you do get treatments, use TCA cross for your ice picks and maybe a TCA peel for texture. 

As others have already mentioned, find a dermatologist that specialises in scar revision. Most dermatologist focus on acne and skin cancer treatment, so quite often they lack the expertise and equipment to deliver scar treatments effectively. All the best. 
 

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Thank you all so much for your responses. I really appreciate your help.

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On 3/13/2018 at 1:22 PM, patty1234 said:

Can I expect any improvement from microneedling? I mean permanent results, not just a temporary swelling.


In order to see big permanent results, you'll need radiofrequency microneedling like Infini. What's more, you can really benefit from subcision because I do see a few tethered scars in the above picture.
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On 15.03.2018 at 8:54 PM, totalbeautyaddict said:

I feel very frustrated and hopeless too some days, so I wanted to spare whatever hope I can.  I've had 3 sessions of in-office microneedling on my cheeks and I definitely did see a difference. Of course I saw the biggest difference right after (I legit thought it was a miracle only too be disappointed later) but I swear the scars aren't as bad or noticeable after the 3 sessions- though they are still there. I just wish I had taken better photos before and after. I have some but they're not in the same light, so I'm not sure how helpful the pictures are. Next time I will certainly do a better job documenting the process.  I wasn't on this website or ever planning to share my results.
I'm not sure if microneedling is the most effective, it's all I've tried so far but I would 100% do it again and recommend it if you have your expectations at bay.  Like they say here it takes a variety of different treatments. I will probably get some filler in my cheeks where I see the worst indent, and try TCA cross on my forehead where I have a few icepicks.
Good luck to you and stay hopeful! 


Totalbeautyaddict, how can you assess the overall percentage improvement in your scarring after these three in-office microneedling sessions?
 
On 14.03.2018 at 10:44 AM, beautifulambition said:

If you don't want filler or subcision you will get less results for not doing something effective and proven.

 
On 15.03.2018 at 9:22 PM, Sirius Lee said:

you can really benefit from subcision because I do see a few tethered scars in the above picture.


Besides, do you guys think that subcision or fillers (are really needed in my case, even if you say that my scarring is not severe at all? I've always thought that this kind of methods are applicable only in deeper and more severe scars, which do not respond to "milder" methods. As for the subcision, I'm not sure if my scars really are tethered. When I stretch my skin, they seem to get a lot smoother - I've read that tethered scars do not change when they are being stretched, is that true?
 
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you'll need radiofrequency microneedling like Infini.


And one last question - and please, be honest. How much percentage improvement can I achieve from getting several Infini radiofrequency microneedling sessions? Edited by patty1234

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11 hours ago, patty1234 said:

1) Besides, do you guys think that subcision or fillers (are really needed in my case, even if you say that my scarring is not severe at all? I've always thought that this kind of methods are applicable only in deeper and more severe scars, which do not respond to "milder" methods. As for the subcision, I'm not sure if my scars really are tethered. When I stretch my skin, they seem to get a lot smoother - I've read that tethered scars do not change when they are being stretched, is that true?

2) And one last question - and please, be honest. How much percentage improvement can I achieve from getting several Infini radiofrequency microneedling sessions?


1) Stretching the skin alone does not give an accurate assessment of tethering IMO. Half the time, the exertion will likely also pull on the underlying dermis/muscle where the scar is attached to. Instead of pulling back, gently push the skin forward towards your nose from the back of the scar. If you see a big crevice-like wrinkle, that is usually a sign of tethering. Or as Dr. Lim suggests, make a smile and see if the scar puckers down. 

According to the Goodman and Baron grading system of post-acne scar, moderate scar is "not easily covered but flattened by stretching the skin." In that context, I would say your scar is medium (correct me if I'm wrong). I think you would benefit from subcision + filler, especially if tethering is present. However, I'll leave that up to your discretion.

2) Speaking from personal experience, I would say I got about 50% improvement from just 2 sessions of Infini. Some areas much more than 50%, while others less than 50%. But the real question is: Do you consider 50% as enough? For some, that would be more than satisfactory. For others, they want nothing less than 100%.
 
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Sirius Lee, than I will have to think about subcision and filler for the deeper scars, though it's really depressing for me because I've thought that my scars will respond to something less invasive and, most importantly, permanent. Having my scars injected with a filler every few months sounds really disappointing for me, though I have to reconcile myself to the thought that it will be needed.

Answering to the other question, I don't even dare to think about 100% improvement. I would definitely consider 50% improvement from any method as satisfactory, though I've lost faith in that my scars can by improved to such an extent. Thank you for response.

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On 3/18/2018 at 9:40 AM, patty1234 said:

Totalbeautyaddict, how can you assess the overall percentage improvement in your scarring after these three in-office microneedling sessions?
   
Besides, do you guys think that subcision or fillers (are really needed in my case, even if you say that my scarring is not severe at all? I've always thought that this kind of methods are applicable only in deeper and more severe scars, which do not respond to "milder" methods. As for the subcision, I'm not sure if my scars really are tethered. When I stretch my skin, they seem to get a lot smoother - I've read that tethered scars do not change when they are being stretched, is that true?
 
And one last question - and please, be honest. How much percentage improvement can I achieve from getting several Infini radiofrequency microneedling sessions?
I’d say at least 30% improvement. 

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On 3/19/2018 at 12:51 AM, patty1234 said:

Having my scars injected with a filler every few months sounds really disappointing for me, though I have to reconcile myself to the thought that it will be needed.


There are many, many types of fillers on the market, with different viscosity, that can last anywhere from 4 months to well over 5 years (and some indefinitely). HA fillers like Juvederm Voluma or Restylane Lyft can last up to 2 years. Non-HA filler like Sculptra can last longer than 2 years. Then there are the permanent fillers like Bellafill and Silikon 1000. I would probably start out with a temporary filler like HA and evaluate the outcome, and then move on to a more permanent solution once I like what I see.

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