Scarless Healing

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4 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

I sent a message to them on facebook in regards to surgical scar revision and they advised me that i would need to find a clinician first that would be able to do the procedure and the clinician liaise with Polarityte to get the application. They intend full commericial roll out for skinte in 2019 so i dont think anything will be available for cosmetics until then.  They have a big summit 25th of June in which i am sure they will have plastic surgeons and derms in attendence. Also they have a sales team now dedicated to marketing this product to clinics so we will need to give them time to build their networks. I am not hoping to be able to get anything done until 2019/2020. Still ill wait. I have hope. 80% regen skin is good enough for me as long as its smooth ay. I think we should all be celebrating actually. This is a scientific breakthrough and i thank this board for evening finding out about it. 


I don't get this response from Skin TE. There is a list of docs already using the product. I spent weeks contacting plastic surgeons that are currently using this product only to be shut down given no information, told they can't help me, everything was like hush hush they don't know anything.  All of my work was futile and now they are saying to find our own doctors to do it why can't we use the docs that already know how to use it. WTH

5 minutes ago, kim6288 said:
4 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:

I sent a message to them on facebook in regards to surgical scar revision and they advised me that i would need to find a clinician first that would be able to do the procedure and the clinician liaise with Polarityte to get the application. They intend full commericial roll out for skinte in 2019 so i dont think anything will be available for cosmetics until then.  They have a big summit 25th of June in which i am sure they will have plastic surgeons and derms in attendence. Also they have a sales team now dedicated to marketing this product to clinics so we will need to give them time to build their networks. I am not hoping to be able to get anything done until 2019/2020. Still ill wait. I have hope. 80% regen skin is good enough for me as long as its smooth ay. I think we should all be celebrating actually. This is a scientific breakthrough and i thank this board for evening finding out about it. 


I don't get this response from Skin TE. There is a list of docs already using the product. I spent weeks contacting plastic surgeons that are currently using this product only to be shut down given no information, told they can't help me, everything was like hush hush they don't know anything.  All of my work was futile and now they are saying to find our own doctors to do it why can't we use the docs that already know how to use it. WTH

Also when can docs start using it if we were to find a doc to use it. The ones using it now will not say or are not allowed to say they are using it! 

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@beautifulambition i respect your opinion ..you are giving advice to peoples from years ..you maybe correcr but please first listen mr
you say i have tiny scars ...no....i have more scars but they only come in camera in index lighting and my pox scars are which are on nose come in every lighting 

i willl try to get index lighting and capture and upload my more scars which you dont know


anyways yeah subcision needling PRP everything works but they can only match scars level to surrounding as from self needling i matched some scars level to skin but it still look weired ..why ???? becausr it has different texture from normal skin 

so matching scar depth level isnt a big deal...fillers subcision needling all do that but some scars have shiny texture with no pores that make them look different you cant correct them by any method from current scar treatment

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4 hours ago, beautifulambition said:
@nikki_gargin Exactly I think it's perfect for you, and I am excited you can get it. Nothing that great out there. Any type of improvement for acute cases would be great as some of them have life threatening disabilities and health concerns.

I also think skinte would be great for major body scars and for say Acne conglobata or lupus or other auto immune stuff it would save cutting out the grafts. Even failed surgical closures where the skin will not heal properly.

For the face I don't think this product will give many what they want of perfect flawless scarless healing. For the highly skeptical aesthetics market. If you look at the boards where we help people with traditional treatments (for acne scars) people are often not pleased by tiny imperfections of treatment, there is a different mindset of perfection. So many on these boards and on this mega post have perfectionist ideals (BDD, etc) where their "very minor" scars could be improved by traditional methods, but they are all or nothing (it must be perfect or they want nothing). This is not healthy.

This product will help what it is intended to do give functionality back to burn and traumatic scar victims.


Any options are better than no options right, you must evolve the outcome of treatments through improvement. What I think most people are interested in for aesthetics is if it could be a replacement to fat grafting though injecting under other tissue layers or controlled damage (laser) - these items it would not matter how it looks as they would act as filler.

Also for older patients the outcome will be interesting, as younger patients tend to heal well from invasive traditional grafting.

 

The whole idea of using Skinte is for...

1. Less scarring and better function
2. Saves taking large donor grafts creating more defects (critical for burn patients with not much good skin left)

So if Skinte can reduce contraction and scarring in large body scars....why cant it do the same for a very small scar?....I don't get it.

this product either regenerates and improves scars or it doesnt....simple Edited by Sniffy

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Seems like the results isn't what we wanted. My life is ruined. 

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so i got a high resolution pic of leg
this leg pic looks like the area is regenerating(i am not talking it regenrated)

it look like it going to match surrounding skin in some months
Screenshot_20180609-152615.thumb.jpg.3d6fff31fe54695bcc427b007d1d1100.jpg

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7 minutes ago, Binga said:

This company uses regenerative fluid from starfish to create a cream. 

http://juventide.com/the-mighty-starfish/

they say accelerated wound healing..no any mention of scarless healing 

half of 2018 will just gone in some days...ugh when we get a complete regenration of skin...last year a company derived the Decorin which we still think was our best research in scarless healing that decorin extracted from sea molluscs which worked on rat wound...still a farway to go..FS2 drug still on clinical trial

Sirnaomics said they are in phase 2 trial in usa

we have to wait too long if skinTe fails in cosmetic impression

because nothing at line on current which going to be available before 2020 except skinTe

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1 hour ago, RefinedAzalea said:

May be we should expect sunogel,but it looks like they have some problems on money
 

forget sunogel it never going to become a reality
they found it capacity of regenration in i reckon 2011..and its 2018 and they are showing a small finger cut wound regenration ..i never have hope on sunogel

if they truely have something like skin regenration then why are they not getting funding ????

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28 minutes ago, Anish004 said:
forget sunogel it never going to become a reality
they found it capacity of regenration in i reckon 2011..and its 2018 and they are showing a small finger cut wound regenration ..i never have hope on sunogel

if they truely have something like skin regenration then why are they not getting funding ????
I see, but they update their team in few month,and they take the entrepreneurial competition consistently,it shows that they are trying to develop the company.

 

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5 hours ago, Anish004 said:

so i got a high resolution pic of leg
this leg pic looks like the area is regenerating(i am not talking it regenrated)

it look like it going to match surrounding skin in some months
Screenshot_20180609-152615.thumb.jpg.3d6fff31fe54695bcc427b007d1d1100.jpg


@Rez and what exactly do you mean by crap results? Is it just me or is this really looking like it will completely regenerate?

The problem is that I am new here so I dont know who of you guys belongs to the most knowledgable. The moderator of this forum seems to be disappointed and thinks that its only scar tissue and nothing more. What about the guys who talked with swanson? I mean he clearly said that they are working in their RD to find a solution for smaller skin defects on sensible areas like the face and as well for hair regeneration. Are they fooling us or wtf is the problem here. Cannot see these fkcing black skin pictures where its not obvious if its scar tissue or pigmentation

The easiest way is it to see the curent stage of healing of the white hand. It was a severe wound down to the muscle/bone. 

They really should present the current stage in a few weeks on their next conference. If they come up with the same pics we can forget it for acne scars. 

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18 minutes ago, royaume said:

@Rez and what exactly do you mean by crap results? Is it just me or is this really looking like it will completely regenerate?

The problem is that I am new here so I dont know who of you guys belongs to the most knowledgable. The moderator of this forum seems to be disappointed and thinks that its only scar tissue and nothing more. What about the guys who talked with swanson? I mean he clearly said that they are working in their RD to find a solution for smaller skin defects on sensible areas like the face and as well for hair regeneration. Are they fooling us or wtf is the problem here. Cannot see these fkcing black skin pictures where its not obvious if its scar tissue or pigmentation

The easiest way is it to see the curent stage of healing of the white hand. It was a severe wound down to the muscle/bone. 

They really should present the current stage in a few weeks on their next conference. If they come up with the same pics we can forget it for acne scars. 

come on now you guys look that severe  injuries where you have all the legs with not skin don't expect any surgeon to remove your face and put a paste they will find another way the key here is that polarityte has find a way to rwegenerate  human skin that's the key they said they will create derivatives with no invasive procedures  to fix our problems 
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From all the pics ive ever seen of skin grafts, flaps, scars i always find darker skin tones look more noticeable than lighter so i think the demo of a black leg is actually a positive for those with lighter skin in that it will be less obvious if any scar tissue remains. My skin graft at 8 months looked horrendous! The shape, how it distorted the sorrounding skin so i dont think some people can maybe appreaciate the leg for what it is. I dont know.

Sunogel seems to be a weird under dog. Maybe their product isnt that profitable so no one is interested. I hope thats not the case. 

I agree that if nothing new and decent is shown on 25th June webcast it will be disappointing.

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The pictures of the leg healing wound remind me of someone who had a bad scrape that is healing. For most people, this is how wounds heal. A healed wound leaves a white mark behind, what is known as scar tissue. Over time, the scar tissue softens and becomes less noticeable. This is normal and how the body repairs itself. Hyperpigmentation tends to linger long for many people but eventually goes away. 

There are exceptions however. People with acne scars tend to have deep pits. Others tend to develop raised scars known as hypertrophic scarring or keloids. 

SkinTE's claim of scarless healing are not true judging from those pics. 

Will it help people with severe scarring or will it be a better alternative to skin grafts, I truly believe so. However, it is not scarless. 

There is still a lot of progress to be made. 

Edited by MyBeautifulScars

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Polarity said on the webcast the regeneration comes from the appendages and the 'wound' will take a year to fully heal and remodel. The body has to create a cover eg a scab or something but for most wounds it doesnt leave a scar long term but might be a mark for some time as stated by Mybeautifulscars. We dont know if that leg is comparable to a scab right now or a permanant scar its too early to tell. Maybe even Polarity dont know? because they only have animal models to go from at current. 

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i urge people to wait until final results from more patients released officialy by skinTe..its been used on msny patients in which we have shown only 2 or 3 and from my point of view that leg is goint to regenrate ..coz it looks like it regenrating rather than scarring

so wait until final results

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Indeed, even if this works, you're completely crazy if you think any surgeon would do that on your face because of some acne scars. 

You're lucky if you'll find a surgeon willing to do that on your BODY (not face) to fix acne scars. 

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Skinte doesn't work. They don't care about our scars. I'm going to hang myself. 

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Continued showing of black patient images is a worry. Its true nobodys face will look like these patients wounds so its hard to compare

my concern is if Skinte can actually do as they say because to me its looking more like a aided healing product not a regenreation product. 

maybe the surface texture needs more time to blend with native skin, i hope its the case.



 

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It works for major burn victims and severe injuries. It probably will not be suitable for acne scars at this point in time. No doctor, as someone else has already mentioned, will even think about performing this procedure on your face. 

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