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  1. Hi, The way I understand it, acne is often a multi factorial symptom of some underlying issues that vary among different people, which is what makes it so hard to treat. I've managed to make a lot of headway in treating my own acne, and the more I read the more I recognize commonalities among the things that work for me, however I just don't have the knowledge to necessary to diagnose exactly why these things work for me. I feel like if I could better understand why, I could further improve treatment on myself. I was wondering if I could poke y'alls brain for some advice. I'm very acne prone. My face used to be a mess; 1-2 pustules a day, cysts every month. Comodones and red spots everywhere. Very oily skin and huge pores. I've since almost cleared my skin. Here's what worked for me: Ketogenic diet (<25g net carbs a day, high fat and high protein) - this has had, by far, the biggest impact Hygiene (fresh pillow case every night, finding the right cleanser and moisturizer for my sensitive skin) Supplements (omega 3, zinc, vitamin A, vitamin D3, a multivitamin) - I'm not sure the efficacy of them individually, however I notice a significant difference when I don't take them all As someone very prone to acne, practicing all of these habits keeps my face >80% clear. I'd say it's 65% diet, 25% hygiene, and 10% supplementation. Long before this, I once had a lot of success treating my acne by megadosing (4-7g a day) on vitamin B5/pantothenic acid. My pores were noticeably smaller and my skin less oily. I still got breakouts occasionally, but at the time megadosing was my only method of skincare. My skin might've looked close to perfect had I been doing everything else I do today. I stopped megadosing after 7 months because I suspect it brought about other issues, like hair thinning and dermatitis on my scalp and face. Apparently this was caused by a deficiency in other B vitamins? Whatever the case, the side effects were enough that I don't plan on returning. The efficacy of pantothenic acid and a ketogenic diet suggest, to me, something involving fatty acid metabolization? Like, they work because they either improve the composition of my sebum or allow me to better break it down? Does that even make sense? I don't know what I'm talking about. I was wondering if any of you had insight to offer, like additional skincare methods based on what I've shared.
  2. Hey Guys I'm beginning my vitamin b5 trial next week by starting on just 500mg and then working my way up to 10 grams. I've read a lot about Dr. Leungs theory on pantothenic acid and also other peoples reviews on them using the vitamin which tend to be all good. The only scare I have about it is hair loss, the thought of my hair just falling out gives me shivers and I want to try my best to make sure it doesn't happen. Has anyone got any tips to make sure this doesn't happen or any vitamin supplements or drugs or anything to take while on b5 so that my locks don't fall out?!!! A year ago I wouldn't of thought twice about taking vitamin b5 because hair loss would scare me so much but since my acne is the worst it has ever been and getting worse, I am willing to take the risk with precautions. Would appreciate it greatly Thankyou!
  3. Am I Doing The B5 Thing Right?

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    So I have severe acne. Severe to the point where I hate everything. My skin is just horrible and it's been like this for months. Now. My cheeks always hurt and I get whiteheads throughout the day. Here's my question. I recently bought 500 mg of pantothenic acid I also got l-carnitine and a vitamin b complex As a topical cleanser I have proactiv just because it's worked for me in the past Here's the story Yesterday I took 10g of vitamin b-5 and 500mg of l-carnitine and took 1 pill of bitamin b complex I washed my face 2x a day as it is directed from proactiv. Am I doing everything right? When will I see results?
  4. How B5 works for those who experience problems with acne: Vitamin B5 is great to help the skin with certain problems that may pop up from time to time, such as acne. Basically what the B5 does is create high amounts of Coenzyme-A. People with acne are often lacking in their metabolism of certain types of fats ~ they do not have enough Coenzyme-A in the body. The fats do not break down, and instead get deposited in your sebaceous (oil) glands. The p.acne bacteria feeds off of this sebum, and creates acne. Pantothenic Acid (vitamin B5) is must be present to make coenzyme-A (CoA), and is a must for metabolism and synthesis of nutrients which we get from certain foods. Vitamin B5 is often used to help treat acne and is quite effective when used on a regular basis to do so. This vitamin can be a strong weapon against acne. Many people swear by vitamin B5 for many of the skin care treatments to aid the skin. If you want to get rid of acne you may want to make it part of your skin care routine. With the aid of additional B5 (all of this extra Coenzyme-A,) these excess fats can be metabolized and oil production better controlled. The results would then be non-oily, or less-oily, skin. With a minimal amount of oil on your skin, little or no acne is produced. Compared to the acne medicine A*cutane, which also minimizes oil production but it does so by shrinking your oil glands B5 is a much healthier option. The B5 Pantothenic Acid doesn't need to shrink your oil glands, because it controls the oil simply by metabolizing it the way nature intended. An extra bonus you get with Pantothenic Acid (B5) is that it also, in time, makes your pores smaller. It is recommended to apply the B5 serum only to the areas where you have excess oil production and/or acne. Do not apply around wrinkle-prone areas, such as eyes, upper lip, etc. (these areas benefit from oil). Some might experience an initial increase of acne at first, as the pores start to clear out the old sebum in the pores. But this is only temporary, and once it's clear you can start to enjoy a new complexion! Instead of downing massive amount of Vitamin B5 a good B5 serum might just do the trick
  5. Hi. I am currently taking the following: Pantothenic Acid (B5) Vitamin C Acetyl-L-carnitine (when this bottle runs out I'll be switching to L-cysteine) L-Methionine The first two are water soluble. None of them say to take with food on their bottles. I've taken them all with and without food, and there are no surface side effects either way... ie: no upset stomach if I take them on an empty stomach. I want to take them all together, except C, that doesn't have to be with the others but it can be. Here's the thing: I don't drink liquids within 2 hours on either side of eating food. And when I do, it's a "drink 3 glasses of water in 10 minutes" kind of thing. SO I have questions. 1. If I take the water soluble pills with food, they don't get any water. Do they NEED water to dissolve and be absorbed, or is it just that they "only" need water, as opposed to also needing fat like fat soluble vitamins? Will they be able to be absorbed even if I only have the small mouthful of water necessary to swallow them? 2. If I take any of these pills without food, it's going to be when I'm drinking massive amounts of water. I pee within half an hour. Will this mean I pee the vitamins and amino acids out without completely absorbing them? Basically... is it better to take them with food and very little or no water, or to take them with lots of water and pee shortly after? Thanks.
  6. How Much B5?

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    Hello all, very new to all this. I have minor Acne. A 26 year old male. Have just purchased b5 pantothenic acid as the reviews look pretty amazing. It clearly states on the box to take 1 a day with a meal and not to exceed the stated dose. However having looked at this and various other forums I can see people have been taking much more. Is this safe? I am also worried about my hair as I have read hair loss is an issue. I have thinning hair as it is Any thoughts or commened will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Hazbomb
  7. This may be a silly question, but would pantothenic acid or pantethine cause photosensitivity like accutane or other acne treatments?
  8. Hi all, I recently purchased 3 bottles of Pantothen from in the hopes it will clear my acne which I have had for many years. The bottles I received state that the amount of pantothenic acid per serving of capsules is 2200 mcg, which I understand to mean micrograms. As there are 1000 micrograms in a milligram, this means there is 2.2 mg of pantothenic acid per serving. The bottle states that this is 22,000% of the RDI for pantothenic acid, which I can't make sense of as most sources I have researched state the RDI/RDA for this vitamin is 5 - 10 mg for adults. I have phoned and emailed via the website asking for clarification of the amount of pantothenic acid per capsule, but have received no reply. Has anyone else tried this product? Maybe these bottles I received are mislabelled? Surely there should be more pantothenic acid per serving than 2.2mg, in order for it to be useful as an acne treatment?? I have read from other posts that people are taking up to 10 grams per day initially to cure their acne. Any help/clarification from anyone would be much appreciated.
  9. (Per day) Iron - 14mg Vitamin D - 25µg Omega 3 fish oil - 600mg Zinc - 20mg Multivitamin - (Vit A 800µg, Vit D 5µg, Vit E 10mg, Vit C, 60mg, B1 1.4mg, B2 1.6mg, Niacin 18mg, Folic Acid 200µg, B12 1µg, Pantothenic 6mg)
  10. Vitamin C & Vitamin E; Immune System: Vitamin C; Mental Focus: Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Taurine, Glutamine, Carnitine; Energy: Taurine, Glutamine, Carnitine, Riboflavin, Pantothenic Acid, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid, Iron; Cardiovascular Health: Folic Acid, Vitamins E, B6 & B12, Calcium, Taurine. Thanks!!
  11. Coenzyme-A Acne Treatment Regimen

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    I am making this thread to consolidate together information about using pantothenic acid plus methionine to very successfully treat acne. I myself have had acne for a little over 10 years and this treament regimen has worked better on a consistent basis than anything else I have ever tried. You kind find all the details here I am using the pantothenic acid + cysteine (or methionine) method, and I'm currently using methionine. While I suppose it is possible that there may be some people that this solution won't work for, I have tried many, many things in the past and this has shown the best consistent results. If anyone has tried any of these solutions before, please post about your experiences here, and don't hesitate to ask any questions you may have. I have tried several other b5 based products (as well as many other things), so I feel like I at least have a fair amount of experience using things based around it, and should be able to provide some help.
  12. Vitamin A And Zinc Help! T_T

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    I'm thinking of starting Vitamin A to treat my adult hormonal acne and oily skin (which I think is caused by excess androgens) , and I was wondering if the daily recommended dosage (10,000 IU?) along with 500mg pantothenic acid a day is sufficient to combat my acne. I do not want to increase my pantothenic acid dosage as I'm already experiencing some hair loss and hair thinning. Also I've been taking 50mg zinc daily for about 3 months now, but I read somwhere that it's actually a testesterone booster? And I certainly haven't seen a decrease in my acne. Should I stop taking the zinc if I have excess androgens?
  13. Hello I`m back here due to personal reasons(I`d rather not dwell on myself,that is`nt my objective here) Basically I`m having reoccurence of past skin problems due to weightlifting and supplementation that goes with it.Basically lifting weights makes my already oily skin....VERY oily! Two of my main objectives in my healthlife are 1.TO HAVE CLEAR SKIN 2. TO BUILD MUSCLE I was doing okay with 1(daily use of copious amounts of 10%BP) until I attempted to do 2 aswell During my time researching musclebuilding I have learnt alot about nutrition(though possibly not a fraction as much as some people on here) Anyway I won`t state the obvious and state that surface skin problems like acne come from deep within and not just at skin level,this point seems too concrete.Still amazes the depth and variety of a few threads on here! Guess it comes from the notion of treating things at the site of exposure and also of wanting quick fixes. Anyway I digress! The two most interestings threads on here that caught my eye and captured my attention are those by 1.MOONBASE and 2.WINGEDSERPENT Simplified MOONBASE states that the bodies inability to process fats is the reason we have acne and advocates a high carbohydrate diet rich in fruits and vegetables and free of fats and processed sugar WINGEDSERPENT advocates low dose b5 coupled with l carnitine(to improve absorption) and a high quantity of vegetables in juiced form with all processed sugar eliminated from diet. Okay I like to tie these two regimes together with each other and Dr Lit-Hung-Leung`s early work on Pantothenic acid. To me it seems these 3 theories all revolve around the bodies inability to metabolise fats.Moonbase advocates removal of fats from diet hence solving problem.Wingedserpent and Leung advocate B5 use in differant fashions to help metabolise fats. To me out of all these 3 WINGEDSERPENTS seems the best and most practical approach to address acne and STILL function in our modern society. WINGEDSERPENTS approach betters Leungs as it doesnt require megadosing of b5 due to use of L-Carnitine(although I will be trying this method with Acetyl L-Carntine personally) and it betters MOONBASES regime as it allows you to eat fat! Okay going back to what I have learnt on nutrition or what I think I have learnt! And how it applies to acne. FATS! When Dr Lit Lung Heung(Or whatever his name is!) said it was the inability of the body to process fats that was the real cause of acne I believe he was on the right lines HOWEVER when he states fats he is being way to simplistic. Most of us know there are differant types of FATS and some are good some not eg- Saturated fats,Monounsaturated fats, Polyunsaturated fats and Trans fats I think we would all agree Trans fats are a big NO NO and most people stay awayfrom these ( Very rare to find hydrogenated fat added in products these days) MOONBASE quite rightly put that Coconut oil is a fat that can be tolerated(It is a Saturated fat but medium chain therefore require no bile from the liver to be processed) MOONBASE also stated that it is because of POLYUNSATURATED fats that we are in this mess in the first place.Genius statement! I personally have switched from margarine to butter( do some online research on this) to avoid vegetable oils So is it vegetable oils that are causing acne or it is all fats?? WINGEDSERPENT congrats on your regime I shall be employing your methods ASAP.Albeit using Acetyl version of L Carnitine. One question I have for you is is juicing neccesary or could we just eat raw carrots and cucumbers etc? Or even supplement with Beta Carotene and whatever is in cucmbers?? MOONBASE you raise some interesting points(a few stated above) However I think your approach is impractical and most people wont succeed on it due to this reason. Also MOONBASE you state sebum is not required by the skin to keep it supple(very intersting point and it would explain alot) Yet then you totally dismiss Heungs idea of b5 supplementation as ALL IT DOES IS REDUCE OILINESS???? Total contraindiction here if it sebum is uneccessary and is what acnes form from. Okay thats enough musings for the time being! MOONBASE and WINGEDSERPENT I eagerly await your ideas and responses to the above and of course everyone else aswell Cheers
  14. Sooo...I've made a new regimen. Here is what it is: INTERNALLY -1000mg Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B5) -200IU Vitamin E -Omega 3 -multivitamin -1000mg Vitamin C -lots of water -at least 8 hours of sleep -good diet (well, trying haha) EXTERNALLY -Canus Original Goat Milk Soap as a cleanser -Fruit of the Earth Aloe Vera as a moisturizer -Clean & Clear Popped Pimple Relief for popped pimples/as a spot treatment I just have a few more questions. 1. I heard that Coconut Oil is GREAT for acne, taken internally and as a moisturizer externally. Though I love aloe, it has actually been leaving my skin tight , so I'm really willing to try coconut oil. I heard the acid in it really helps kill the bad bacteria...HOWEVER, I also heard it is one of the most comedogenic ingredients. If I want to try this, how should I do it? 2. Are there any more vitamins that are good for the skin? Thanks!!!
  15. Hi everybody! I would like to share my experience on how I got rid of my annoying acne problem for good. Maybe it is helpful for some of you as well.... Since acne can have many causes and I had been through most of the alternative and prescription meds (incl. accutane and antibiotics), I decided to approach my disease from several angles: - in case that it was caused by digestive problems I started eating prebiotics, such as sauerkraut, miso and kefir (probiotic supplements made my breakouts worse) - in case that it was caused by too much sebum production I took three times daily 1000mg pantothenic acid combined with 250mg l-carnitine (what resulted in smaller pores and no bumps anymore:)) - in case that it was caused by an inflammatory response I drank both morning and evening one table spoon of turmeric dissolved in warm water - in case that it was caused by unstable blood sugar I added cinnamon to my diet - I used an OTC a-vitamin face cream The process took about 3 months, and since then I was / am 100% acne free. I will continue with this regimen for sure, just less of the pantothenic acid and l-carnitine Hope this helps somebody else, too! ) ps....I prefer a vegan diet and don´t eat sugar often. Foods high in iodine still can make me get a bump or two, but only if I eat REALLY much of those.
  16. Hi there, Just registered to this site, this is my first post / thread. I want to keep a daily log for anyone interested in trying fish oil (Omega 3) to help clear their skin. I thought I'd give it a go as I never eat fish so perhaps lacking allot of Omega 3. I'm not sure if I qualify for having light acne or if it's just a bad case of spots / pimples. Whatever the case, it's persistent and I hate it. What was my first go at clear skin? B5 - Pantothenic acid - 10G daily.. Done nothing for me after 3 and a half months, just cost allot. Chosen Brand of fish oil: Carlson's. Bought from: eBay. Price Paid: £17.50 Supply: 130 Capsules. This is my first day on the dosage I was recommended ( 3 Pills Daily ). Day 1.
  17. Hey all, After doing a lot of research on these boards, I started a regimen of vitamin A, pantothenic acid, zinc, and vitamin E. It's been seven days, and I'm still getting active acne. Usually just one or two new ones every day. (Isn't it the worst feeling in the world when you have hope for a new method and then you feel a new, painful pimple forming? Ugh.) I don't want to overanalyze the little ups and downs too much, but does anyone know if I should be seeing results immediately, or if I should give it a few more weeks? Any advice would be lovely.
  18. I've suffered from mild/moderate acne for 10 years (23/F), and a friend of my mom's recently suggested a regimen that apparently worked wonders for her teenage son. It consists of Zinc, Pantothenic Acid, and a Rainbow Light Teen Multivitamin. I've been using Differin .1% cream for a little over 3 months (and I recently began applying it twice a day about a week ago) with minimal results, and I'm supposed to begin Accutane (this will be my 3rd round) in a month. Since Accutane is really a last resort for me, as nothing else has ever seemed to work, I was wondering if anyone has tried this combination and, if so, if it's been successful. I'm pretty wary of beginning a vitamin regimen since it can't be sustained for a prolonged period of time, but I'm willing to try this if it works. It seems a little fishy to me, especially since a "Teen Multivitamin" is involved and I'm 23, so I would also appreciate any info from those of you who are no longer teenagers (but any advice is welcome!!)
  19. So I'm going to start taking Pantothenic Acid (B5). I'm not going to megadose, I'll start off with 2 pills per day, and I'll work my way up from there. I've heard that it's important to take other B-vitamins as well because it can throw stuff in your system out of whack if you're only taking one B-vitamin and not others. My question is this -- should I just take a B-vitamin complex pill along with my B5 pills? I mean yes, I'll still be receiving way more B5 than I'm receiving any other B vitamin, but at the very least, it'll be slightly more balanced. I had read that some people only take biotin along with B5, but would it be wiser to take a B-complex (which would include biotin) along with my B5? Any input is appreciated!
  20. Pantothenic Acid (B5) Acne

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    I am about to start using Pantothenic Acid (B5) for my acne, and I was wondering if people that have actually USED this product can comment on how it worked for them. Also comment on how you used it. Please and Thank You.
  21. After 3 years of bp, I am finally going to try vitamins to see if they help me with my acne. I have: Fish Oil 1200 mg Chelated Zinc Gluconate 50mg Niacin 500mg Vitamin A 8000 IU How many should I take a day for each one? Do I take them all at once, or at different time of the day? I have mild acne, but extremely oily skin.. I don't know anybody's skin as oily as mine, I drink a sufficient amount of water and moisturize my skin but it just won't cut it. Would zinc do the trick, or should I also bring in B5 (Pantothenic Acid)? Thanks
  22. New Regimen

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    I just bought Finest Natural Zinc and Niacin(no flush) and GNC's Pantothenic Acid I was planning on taking 50 mg of zinc twice a day(wakeup, bedtime) 500 mg of Niacin once a day at night before bed and 500 mg of Pantothenic Acid 4 times a day(2 morning, 2 night) How does this sound, please let me know if I should change anything.
  23. B5 Calcium & Magnesium

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    So I am currently taking 1.5 g of b5 daily however I am trying to make sure I am not consuming too much calcium as to deplete my magnesium levels. So by the label it says per 1.5 g of Pantothenic Acid (B5) from Calcium Pantothenate includes 135 mg of Calcium as Calcium Pantothenate so how do I know how much Calcium I am consuming to match an even ration to Magnesium? anyone know? any feedback would be appreciated thanks ------------
  24. B5

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    So I am currently taking 1.5 g of b5 daily however I am trying to make sure I am not consuming too much calcium as to deplete my magnesium levels. So by the label it says per 1.5 g of Pantothenic Acid (B5) from Calcium Pantothenate includes 135 mg of Calcium as Calcium Pantothenate so how do I know how much Calcium I am consuming to match an even ration to Magnesium? anyone know? any feedback would be appreciated thanks
  25. Nutrition to Reduce Sebum

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    Hey everyone, First off, I apologize if this a repeated topic or in the wrong forum. Basically, since junior high, I've been producing and accumulating way too much sebum on my face (I'm now nearly 20). As anyone who's gone through the same thing, they know it can be an aggrevating experience. I can start the day off with a dry, pale-olive complexion, and then finish the day shiny and rosy. It's horribly uncomfortable, and has drastically affected my social life, my work productivity, and encourages my acne growth. I currently take antibiotics (for my present acne), apply tretinoin to my face nightly, and apply tea tree oil in the afternoon. All of these have greatly helped my acne, but my oil situation has remained nearly unchanged . So rather than trying accutane (which frightens me) I was hoping to try a more nutritional approach to cut it down. I've heard a few B5 (pantothenic acid) success stories, but I'm unsure of the recommended dosage. I've also heard of fish oil and saw palmetto extract has also helped some cut down in sebum excretion. Have you guys had any success with these? Are there other dietary supplements or changes that have helped you cut down on oil? Thanks so much for any help/ advice you all can give!