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  1. I had a dermaneedle session at home with derminator...It was quite painful at high-depth so I only had some passes at 1mm on the forehead, some at 1'5mm on the temples and some at 2mm on both cheeks. After the treatment my face was fully red and with blood, which I left for a while as a mask because I read it is good (PRP...)- Then I rinsed the blood off my face, and my skin was looking pink. After 4 hours the pinkness is going away and my skin looks almost normal which I don't like as I feel I've not dermaneedled enough and the treatment won't do anything. When I had dermapen done last year my face was very red and it lasted for 3-4 days, my skin even peeled off a bit and my scars were not visible after a week because of the swelling...The doctor used numbing cream and then dermaneedled all across my face for 1 hour or so... I realize my DIY needling has been too soft and I don't think it is gonna do anything on my scars, texture, etc... I can even see my scars now, so no swelling and very mild redness/pinkness... I wonder whether dermaneedling can be useful even if your skin looks hardly damaged after the procedure. Thanks.
  2. I had the procedure done last friday, dermapen, for mild acne scarring. its been 48 hours, the estethician who did it to me told me not to use sunscreen for 4 days because of the chemicals that it has and that my skin is opened and dilated. However i think shes exagaggerating a bit and that by now i should be ready to use it ? zinc oxide sunscreen for now im only using moisturizing cream. thankks
  3. So I had my very first microneedling appointment done yesterday (April 17th, 2017) I am on the end of my tenth week of Dans regimen, so I figured it would be a good time to jump-start my scar revision process. The doctor used 2.5mm needles, using the "Rejuvapen." I only had my cheek areas treated, because those ares are really my only areas of concern. I'm dealing with mild-moderate rolling scars, possibly even a boxcar scar or two, however, all of these scars are very smooth, and do not exceed 1.5mm in depth at the very maximum. I also have some PIE ( post inflammatory erythema ) these scars are primarily just causing an uneven textured look, which I have faith that multiple microneedling sessions will significantly suppress, if not completely eliminate. I plan on going back to my doctor in 4 weeks for my follow-up treatment ( does anybody think that is much too soon? should I push it back to 5 weeks? ) I am very excited to start seeing results in the coming weeks. I know it takes time, but I've been dealing with skin issues for a very long time, so I know the time will pass quickly. Here are photos of me today, April 18th, in indirect lighting, so you can really see the texture of my skin. Lastly, if any of you have any questions or comments regarding microneedling while using Dans regimen; shoot!
  4. Microneedling & Dan's Regimen?

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    Hey guys. This is actually my first post ever on here so cut me some slack if this is already a subject and I just couldn't find it. Anywho, I've been on Dan's regimen for just shy of 3.5 weeks now, and life has gotten so much better already. Everything has pretty much gone just as Dan had outlined on the "what to expect" timeline. I've been suffering with moderate cystic acne for about 4 years, and I wish so badly I had found this site earlier. My cysts have calmed down so significantly, and it looks like I'll be completely clear of all active acne within the next 2 weeks. I am so happy with the results thus far, but unfortunately I am now left with minor rolling scars on my cheeks. SO - is it safe to treat acne scars using a microneedling technique while on Dan's regimen? Are there any specific side effects that I may experience? (aside from the typical 2-3 days of redness and swelling, big whoop) NOTE - I will begin using the aha + glycolic acid staring in 2 days. I just want to begin my healing process as quickly as possible, but want to ensure that I am doing it correctly. Thanks!
  5. When I was in my teens, i had really bad acne I tried every cream there was.... and at that time I didn't think so much about the diet.. I of course didn't eat candy, cake, really unhealthy food... but still I got acne... at that time I didn't knew about milk, wheat and so on could give acne and bad skin and maybe a paleo or vegan diet could help, I didn't think about that, because I wasn't that old AND I thought the high professional many years studdying doctors/ special skin doctor in my country, knew what they talked about and what to do.... Thats why I trusted them, and said yes, when they said I have to do accutane... I trusted them, also because of all the things they said about the pills, how many they have helped and with the small side effects there was, there was some side effects, but not permanent... I didn't mind have side effect when I was on the pills.... But know 4 years pluuuus, I have bad skin healing, easily scar, easily get dry skin... saggin age skin MANY wrinkles..... And months after I stopped the accutane I didn't knew I had bad skin healing or knew it would do that to the body/SKIN many months , years after!!! I have tried laser, subcision and dermaroller/pen and that harsh of treatment isn't the best job to do, if you have bad healing and easily scars.... I know and regret of all my life, but I didn't know that in till AFTER all that my skin and scars are so much worse than after the accutane ended and I wanted to do something about it.... my life is forever ruined and social life / normal fucki?=G life is gone at a age 22.... all doctors everywere gives accutane to people,,,, but no one, no where on the internet or clinic or in the fuck^`?G universe knows how or what to do with that permanent side effect .... If I knew all this that time at the doctor ... I would rather have acne my hole LIIIIIFE!!!! And thats no bS!!!! I rather have acne than bad heavy scars all over the face..... OR if I knew all this with bad healing, I wouldn't have been doing all the treatments AFTER and live with those scars .. I got after accutane.... cause now I loke like a monster scar face.... my life motivation is gone.... even more, when you see the threat/ Forum on this website.. and sees how many there have been comment AND still doooooo!!!! and we are getting nowhere!!!!! fuck?``G NOWHERE!!! there are many skin conditions in this world, this life... and all kinds, there are a way, diet, or treatment to help.... but not this, not us who have been damaged and harmed by accutane... we are the ones who took the longest straw.... NO juice diet, vegan diet, paleo diet will help... accutane victims are F?C=D for life.....
  6. Good day everyone! I'm back on tack. I used to visit this site, maybe a year ago or 2. I have a nose scar on thel eft side of my nose, upper nostrils. I used to apply TCA cross, would only cause swelling and would eventually go back to its original size. I tried needling it with 0.23mm micro needle, I thought it was healing, but then it again went back to original size. I do not know if I should still continue with needling since I learned that it is very dangerous to do needling on nose. Anyone with similar stories or success stories? Hope you could share. It is very depressing to hace these kind of scars. Not the the actual pic but very similar and deeper is my scar. Thanks in advance -pan
  7. Procell MD vs AnteAGE MD

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    Hi, I am really surprised there is no mention of needling with stemcell serums like Procell and AnteAGE anywhere on this forum. Has anyone tried these serums with derma needling? I have been reading about these serums and they sound interesting, before I order I would like to know if anyone tried any of these or if there is a better product? They are very expensive but if they really work they might be worth trying since my progress with needling and other topics is extremely slow. There is an interesting article here barefacedtruth.com/2015/04/13/confused-growth-factor-cytokine-products-skin-care-microneedling and read some of the comments. These companies seem to offer complete pre and post serum solutions specifically for needling. Thanks..
  8. 2thoseWhoHaveTriedSubcision??

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    2 Those who have tried Subcision... anybody haved a left mark, hole, mini scar after the injection they does before treatment and from the nodule but mostly from the injection ?? Simon
  9. Dermapen or Dermaroller >?

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    Dermapen or Dermaroller >?
  10. Getting Infini for My Scars

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    After three bouts of acne flare ups over the course of 6 years (I'm 24) I have noticeable scars on my face that I'm finally ready to take care of. I was meant to get Fraxel this winter but after reading some posts here and watching this video https://youtu.be/38Wty2Rpj7U I discovered Infini could be a really good option. It's different because it combines micro needling with radio waves so you get the kinds of benefits of laser, but it's delivered deeper in the skin for better results. So, instead that's what I'm doing beginning this Wednesday. To start, here's a picture of my scarring before- I have all types of scars but the majority are rolling and boxcar scars. I'm told Infini is ok for ice pick scars and good for improving larger areas with different texture, like mine, so I'm hoping this is the right choice.
  11. Anybody needling with succes ??

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    anybody who needling/roller/Pen with any succes `?
  12. Is it true or "normal" that after first time you dermaroll your scars can look worse(maybe deeper) or maybe new small scars can apears? because the dermaroller removes upper layers of the skin each time?? and then some scars can/could hide under the surface you never seen before, but they have always been there just not that eye-catching?? (for others than you of course) Is that the dermaroller's "thing" to nice and easy remove the upper layers of the skin and with the time, make the scars equal to the normal skin ?? and therefore give you better skin ? sorry for all the questions.. -Simon,DK
  13. I have seen more than once on this forum(can't remember who wrote it), some have gotten Burn victim look-a-like skin after been dermarolling for a while? any of them got pics Maybe ? or maybe any advice with the dermaroller to not get in that way with the skin? -sorry for a weird question .. simon
  14. LED+Needling??anyone?

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    Anyone tried the LED light+Dermaroller ? like Lamarr the old member have posted and tried with succes!! I know it's many years since he posted it! any maybe all who have tried, no longer are on acne.org! but I am gonna try anyway, and ask if anyone have tried it! Simon.
  15. I had two sessions of RF Micro needling treatment with a 40 days Gap in between the two sessions, for 2 days after each treatment my scars looked lift up and i felt good and after that my scars went to where they were before, And also i see a significant amount difference in scars during mornings times when i wake up and the same old depressed scars in the evenings or after i am tired. So is there any chance that my scars will show any improvement and if so how many treatments should i undergo and expect good results in how many months? And also please suggest me if any other cheap treatments are available to make the scars visibly good than before in India.
  16. I had two sessions of RF Micro needling treatment with a 40 days Gap in between the two sessions, for 2 days after each treatment my scars looked lift up and i felt good and after that my scars went to where they were before, And also i see a significant amount difference in scars during mornings times when i wake up and the same old depressed scars in the evenings or after i am tired. So is there any chance that my scars will show any improvement and if so how many treatments should i undergo and expect good results in how many months? And also please suggest me if any other cheap treatments are available to make the scars visibly good than before in India.
  17. I had two sessions of RF Micro needling treatment with a 40 days Gap in between the two sessions, for 2 days after each treatment my scars looked lift up and i felt good and after that my scars went to where they were before, And also i see a significant amount difference in scars during mornings times when i wake up and the same old depressed scars in the evenings or after i am tired. So is there any chance that my scars will show any improvement and if so how many treatments should i undergo and expect good results in how many months? And also please suggest me if any other cheap treatments are available to make the scars visibly good than before.
  18. Hey everyone, Just wanted to post some before and after pics of my skin after various scar treatments. I want to let you all know to that scars can be improved and don't give up if they get you down. I would have considered mine severe before treating them, now I rate them as maybe moderate; but I still plan on doing more treatments, just figured id post some pics to help some of you out. Heres a very very general overview of what I've done over the years: Dermastamp 1.5mm + terproline TCA peel 30%, 15% various lactic acid peels That's it...however, I plan on getting some subcision and TCA cross done very soon, along with learning how to single needle and continuing dermastamping and spot treating with the 30% TCA. Also, If any of you are under the impression that you NEED lasers to treat severe scarring, I'm here to tell you that you don't. IMO, lasers are way too harsh and can actually do more harm than good. Look at every option and combine treatments, something will work for you. Good luck!
  19. I have had needling done before and I am thinking of doing it myself this time. I've had it done with a roller and pen. I've heard with the roller skin can tear and the angle isn't good. When I had the pen done, he moved it around like crazy (as you see on youtube). I felt sometimes it would get stuck to my skin as he would move it around. So I was thinking of getting a stamp,but then I came across a guy on Youtube who was essentially using a pen and stamping it on his skin instead of doing crazy circular motions. I was trying to do more research on the pen, can someone tell me what this means? http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm429899.htm I know the dermapen is probably expensive but willing to do whatever it takes at this point.
  20. I understand that there is a "window of opportunity" minutes and hours after needling to take advantage of the newly formed micro channels in the skin by applying topicals which can penetrate at a much deeper level and therefore enhance their effects. Similarly though, I'm guessing there are certain products you should probably avoid during this period as well. So, what should you apply to the skin and when? For example, Vitamin C serum is something that is commonly mentioned as a topical to use after needling. However, should it be put on in the immediate aftermath or not for a couple of more days down the line?
  21. Im going to be totally honest here. I was a picker, but never scarred, so stubbornly i kept going. I used one of those dumb blackhead tools after my second round of accutane (previously i was 15) at 20, my skin had changed and i very quickly ended up with scarred pores, icepicks and shallow boxcars. im going back on accutane to address oiliness and clogged pores, but knowing ill need to wait so long afterwards makes me wonder if i should just go ahead and try to improve the scars first, since they were from picking not the acne itself in my case... Fractional RF is the same as infini rf. Its microneedling in a stamping style with radiofrequency in the needles so its like lasering and needling. Of course id need multiple treatments spaced out, so it would put accutane off for a while. Please dont suggest tca cross, it made my scars worse :( i see my derm at the end of feb so ill ask her too. What do you guys think?
  22. For the past 1-2 years I've been getting these little hardened plugs of sebum/keratin? in my pores. They look like little rice grains. Every time they come out, whether by force or not, a little scarred hole is left behind. They often come out with a small piece of hair attached, including eyebrow hair! <------ This makes me real sad They may be blackheads, I don't know. But I'm pretty sure I have seborrheic dermatitis based on these symptoms + oily, flaky skin. These holes are really noticeable and I have them spread on my forehead and both cheeks. Has anyone have success/suggestions on what to do with these?! Currently I dermastamp the parts of my face with boxcar scarring, would dermastamp help these out? Also, any seb derm solutions will be very much appreciated.
  23. I just wanted to share my experience today from a PRP treatment with both injection and dermapen in one sitting. I was a 'lucky' guinea pig for a training session and pretty stoked I got to do this with my doc at no cost! It's been about ten hours and my face is pretty swollen so I can't see any of my old scarring but I'll update this as the swelling subsides. I'm in my early 30s with VERY fair and sensitive skin (redheads and blondes). I had two vials of blood taken and then many nerve blocks done via lidocaine with epinephrine all over the face and a couple dental blocks from inside the mouth. Once I was numb and my plasma had been separated from my blood, in one section at a time a syringe was used to topically apply the plasma followed by the dermapen. Once my entire face had gone through this, I had the rest of the plasma injected into the face around the eyes, the forehead, cheeks, chin, lips etc and extra care and attention on the sides of my chin where deep acne had left quite a few ice pick scars and rolling scars as well as the smaller scars that just give that 'orange peel' texture. After the treatment a collagen stimulating/growth factor cream was applied and massaged all over topically and left to dry. I kept it on a solid 9 hours after I got home and very gently used a damp warm washcloth to remove it followed by tiny dab of jojoba oil to clean up any residue and just my fingers for rinsing and air drying. As I said above, I have a lot of swelling (I actually dig it because I look 15!). It's by no means bee-sting type though. I am not scaley and I was told I wouldn't end up scabbing, just red. I look like I have a really bad sunburn basically. Under each of my eyes near my zygomatic arch I have slight bruising, but they jumped on it immediately and massaged it so it's not bad. I'll be picking up some arnica to chow down tomorrow but was told NOT to take it before the procedure (should have had it ready at home). Really hoping the redness goes away more tomorrow; I'll be throwing a chilly washcloth on tonight to try and chill out the situation. Lots of tingling going on in my face and a tiny bit of feeling like I got into a fight lol. Anyway, I'll update tomorrow so there will be a 'downtime' reference for anyone looking into it!
  24. Mr Matt And Rob X W/pics

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    Hope to hear from you mr matt. From rob x, from panos, from aquasea, or anyone out there who had success treating their scars especially deep ones from the nose. I have one and is really deep. If not massaging with rose hip oil, what then shoul i do? I cant go to plastoc surgeons, I dont have enough money and i am more on natural methods. Anything else i could do? Any help out there? I am about to lose hope.
  25. Does anyone on the forums have prior experience or research about derma-rolling/stamping/needling's effects on skin that's already been treated with punch floats and punch grafts? As in, will this negatively affect the repairs made to ice pick scars treated with punch techniques? I have had several courses of punch floats and grafts, and am looking to treat some linear and rolling scars on my left cheek, as well as some indented areas. Recently, I've been looking into derma-rolling and stamping, but I don't know if it's worth trying out due to prior scar treatments. Any advice or input would be appreciated. Thanks so much.