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    2 hours ago, Anish004 said:

    is it true that the scars and skin component are same but only difference is scar  have a densely packed collagen and hapazardly arranged????

    To answer your question, scar tissue is composed of the same material as heathly skin which is collagen. Collagen in uninjured skin has a basket wave weave like pattern. In scars, collagen is aligned in one parallel direction. Too much collagen gets you raised scars. Too little collagen gets you pits or depressions in the skin. 
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    16 hours ago, Anish004 said:
    17 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:
    I wonder where I can get Pirfenidone. 
    you can get it online a gel form of pirfenidone is also available named as kitoscell researches have shown it prevent scarring if applied at very early stage of wound healing
    I'm guessing it does nothing on existing scars!!
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    3 hours ago, Anish004 said:

    MyBeautifulscars no.9 is totally wrong the Glue created to close wound was made from Decorin (already proved to provide scarless healing..but its hard to synthesise) not tropoelastin
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    no 10 ..those two drugs which reduces scar formation to much extent are 
    Topiramate and Pirfenidone (also known as kitoscell) come with some side effects which is topiramate pirfenidone doesnt have side effects

    i thought sunogel may be our saviour but he is so slow..maybe our childrens when they will be in their 20s thankful to sunogel

    I wonder where I can get Pirfenidone. 
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    36 minutes ago, Delto said:

    Does anyone know of a place to get updates on scarless healing that is more focused on the topic? 

    The amount of people in this thread that try to derail the topic with their sob stories is annoying and unproductive.

    36 minutes ago, Delto said:

    Does anyone know of a place to get updates on scarless healing that is more focused on the topic? 

    The amount of people in this thread that try to derail the topic with their sob stories is annoying and unproductive.

    There's not much to report. 

    We have many startups who claim to have achieved scarless healing. Information and peer reviewed articles are very limited. 

    1) SkinTE seems to be forerunner right now. They have the funds. They are using their product on individuals with ulcerations and burns. Patients seem to be healing quite nicely from limited info shown on their website and press conferences. Pics shown do not seem to indicate 100% scarless healing as they claim however. Data is very limited at this point. Results are impressive six months in of using SkinTE on fresh wounds. They claim to be working on a derivative to help individuals with smaller scars so the procedure won't be as invasive. 

    2) Sunogel claims to achieve scarless healing as well but they have nothing to show at this stage. They seem to be lacking the funds to continue with their product. 

    3) FS2 from BirchBiomed is at phase 2 of clinical trials. It can take anywhere from 2 to 10 years before all clinical trials are finished. The drug can fail at any stage. Important to note, they claim the drug breaks down existing scar tissue so it does not give us 100% scarless healing. 

    4) A team headed by Dr. Cotsarelis found a way to eliminate scarring on fresh wounds. They published a paper in Jan. 2017 but there's no updates ever since.

    5) There is another french start up who seems to be using 3D bioprinting to possibly excise existing scars and replace them with skin created in a lab. This would be skin grafting so once again not scarless healing. Many companies are already using this technology as we speak. Pharrell Williams tried to cover his tattoos using this technology. 

    6) Stratamark seems to have developed a product that eliminates stretchmarks but Internet reviews are poor about the product. 

    7) Many plastic surgeons are finding to new techniques to make scars less visible. Once again not scarless. There are more startups out there but they are so many, it is hard to enumerate them all. There's was a company using tropoelastin or elastagen to achieve scarless healing. They were bought out by the makers of Botox but there's not much to report. 

    8) Scientiests have also developed a skin gun using stem cells from Renova. Once again, we do not know if this is 100% scarless healing. 

    9) There is also a new skin glue developed by scientists which closes wounds within seconds. We don't know if this scarless. It uses tropoelsstin. 

    10) There are 2 drugs that reduce scar formation significantly. I forget the names. These drugs come with a wide range of life threatening side effects and are not prescribed at all. They are used to treat other diseases instead. 

    This is where we currently sit. In a few years, someone will crack it. 


     
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    1 hour ago, SimpleMutton said:

    I actually re-listened to the presentation SkinTE did last week and I actually changed my mind a little bit. It looks promising, they said 2019 for complete commercial rollout and I hope it's true. 
    I don't care about scarless healing, an 80% improvement would be considered a totale cure (miracle) for me, compared to the actual 10% improvement current treatments offer (FOR BACK, NOT FACE). 

    SkinTE really is our only hope to cure our problem without waiting years. 

    As for the "white flat spots" I have no idea if it's acne, scars or some allergic reaction.
    The explanations I read online (follicular macular atrophy ecc) don't seem convincing to me and dermatologists couldn't exactly tell me what they are and consequently couldn't tell me how to get rid of them. 

    They keep appearing on my upper arms and shoulders (and a bit on the chest) and if they don't go away immediately they stay there forever. 
    Ironically they started to appear when acne (the common type of acne) stopped to torment me. I wonder if it's just another "version" of acne.....acne that appear after a certain age, It seems that teenagers don't get these white flat spots but they appear on individuals that suffered from acne for years and are a bit older now (early/mid 20's and up).

    They seem to appear much more with hot weather and they don't appear that much with cold weather (but the ones already there keep staying there even with cold weather). 

    They are very ugly and the only thing to camouflage them is to tattoo over them since they all are on the upper arms/shoulders....a well placed tattoo would make them invisible

    I have thousands of these too. They appear once acne heals. They go by many names like follicular macular atrophy, perifollicular elastolysis, papular acne scars or mid dermal elastolysis. They look awful because they are closely grouped together. That's why I came on here to find a way to rid myself of these. It seems that the elastic fibers in the skin get damaged leaving behind these lesions. They are related to another skin condition known as anetoderma. Anetoderma happens spontaneously in some individuals. You might have a form of anetoderma together with cystic acne. 

    Getting a tattoo will not help because once you reach your forties your skin will start to sag and the white spots will become more prominent. They will become even more prominent with a tattoo. It's hard to get a tattoo on scar tissue nonetheless. 
     
    Teenagers don't have these scars because they probably have a few pimples on their back that heal fast with no permanent damage. However some individuals seem to be breaking out on their back, shoulders and upper arms for years. This is cystic acne or even the more severe acne conglobata which leave behind these scars as a permanent reminder. The damage to the skin is deep. Not much can be done for them now unless SkinTE finds a derivative to inject them with and make the skin regenerate. 
     
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    3 hours ago, damnBOY said:
    4 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:
    Then don't comment on my posts and just ignore me. How about you go out a little and enjoy life instead of complaining about your scars, that might change your life dramatically.  I never took hope away from anyone. I have read about all these new scar reducing methods and foundations on this forum for a long time. Months, years pass. Nothing has ever come to fruition. SkinTE seems to be the only candidate with some potential. People contemplating suicide have serious mental health issues that need to be resolved. 

    Not every cut or wound heals in scar formation. Most minor cuts do not scar. The moment you cut deep in the dermis, it will result in a scar. Same goes inside the mouth. 

    We need to accept our bodies and our scars. When someone finds something to eliminate scarring than we comment on here about this great discovery. For now, we should try to make the best of our situation. We are not getting any younger. Let's be happy and look at our scars as battles we won. Let's be patient and make our lives better. 
    who said I don't enjoy life fixing my scars is nothing to do with enjoying life it has to do with something else and I don't hurry up I can wait  5-6 years its ok  this thread is for scarless healing we don't care about your opinions for life we care if you come here and post something about scarless healing that's it 
    Re-read my post. Don't comment on my posts if you don't like my opinions. That is all. I'll ignore you from now on. Personal attacks and threats will not be tolerated. You will be reported. Have a great day. 
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    1 hour ago, damnBOY said:
    so what you want everybody here to do??? all your post is about that we will not have scarless healing please just go away we don't care about your opinion we care about scientific progress I am tiried to listen always the same thing 
    Then don't comment on my posts and just ignore me. How about you go out a little and enjoy life instead of complaining about your scars, that might change your life dramatically. 
    1 hour ago, agelessfrost said:

    I'm sorry but I think you're wrong. This is something they'd be interested in because there are billions to be made. Don't take hope away from people, it is dangerous. Have hope! 

    Adult humans already have the potential to heal without scars - in our oral mucosa. Link: http://orca.cf.ac.uk/15843/. The mechanism is there, it just has to be unlocked.

    Additionally, there are many foundations set up with the aim to heal scars. An example is this: https://hrhcountessofwessex.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-scar-free-foundation-formerly.html

    Or perhaps combining current treatments with new ones such as Elastagen: http://biotech-365.com/elastagen-to-feature-breakthrough-tissue-repair-and-aesthetic-platform-at-upcoming-dermatology-summit-and-biotech-showcase-conferences-in-san-francisco-ca/ with subcision. 

    Also this sounds interesting as well: http://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C409509%2Cis-scarless-wound-healing-possible-in-humans-scientists-from-olsztyn-are-working-on-a-solution.html
    I never took hope away from anyone. I have read about all these new scar reducing methods and foundations on this forum for a long time. Months, years pass. Nothing has ever come to fruition. SkinTE seems to be the only candidate with some potential. People contemplating suicide have serious mental health issues that need to be resolved. 

    Not every cut or wound heals in scar formation. Most minor cuts do not scar. The moment you cut deep in the dermis, it will result in a scar. Same goes inside the mouth. 

    We need to accept our bodies and our scars. When someone finds something to eliminate scarring than we comment on here about this great discovery. For now, we should try to make the best of our situation. We are not getting any younger. Let's be happy and look at our scars as battles we won. Let's be patient and make our lives better. 
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    3 minutes ago, agelessfrost said:

    This is also hopeful. Bioprinting skin for cosmetic testing - but I believe the skin will be full thickness and have minimal scarring and can be used for scar remodeling. 

    Link: https://www.poietis.com/fr/poieskin/welcome.php#poieskin1

     

    There's a lot of research going on right now to find a way to eliminate scarring. The timing is great because body culture is at it's peak. Everyone wants to have flawless skin and nicely shaped figures. But we are still in the beginning stages of all this research. The research has been going on since the early 90s. Nothing concrete has come of it as of yet. 

    I would also like to point out that scarring is not a disease but rather a cosmetic problem. Big pharma is more focused into finding cures to diseases not fixing common cosmetic flaws like scarring or baldness. 
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    Some posters here talk about suicide and I believe they need serious help. Don't let your scars ruin your life. Everybody has scars. Unfortunately, many of us have ugly ones. 

    SkinTE looks to good to be true. Those pics are not scarless but it is a better alternative to skin grafts. Scarless healing is far away. Big pharma still doesn't have a cure for many diseases, how can we expect scarless healing so soon? As someone stated, a new drug can take 5 to 15 years to get approved. 

    We just need to learn to make the best of it. 

    I can't imagine what someone who lost a leg or an arm would say to someone with scars contemplating suicide. 

    There are worse things out there than acne scars but acne scarring sucks. Also, all people have stretchmarks. I rather have those which are quite common than acne and it's leftovers. 

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    9 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:
    15 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:
    My scars are slightly raised above the skin's surface. They are small but quite extensive. They look like goosebumps or whiteheads that didn't develop fully giving me a chicken skin like appearance. Many people have them after suffering from years of extensive body acne but existing treatments do
     
    Really weird reading this becauas3 i had a bad acne flare last year and after it resolved i could feel all these grain like bumps sticking out of my back and my mum said they look like little pin prick white heads and my skin was dry. I noticed these same little grains growing out the lower half of my face and again my skin was dry. I stopped using face wash and tap water and the dryness stopped and so did these little bumps. I have got loads of tiny hypo scars thoigh in that area which i hope heal over and fade.
    I have hyperpigmentation and hypopigmentation. The hyperpigmentation fades with time but those white scars you have are for life. Imagine having these covering half your back and shoulders. Mine are slightly raised too. It looks awful. We can't do much. I wear my scars with pride. If someone asks, I say these are the ravages of acne. My skin pores are about 2 or 3 mm wider than the average person. This means that my pores are highly prone to skin infections. I often get pimples on my lower arms and legs. I have very visible pores which makes my pockmarks on my face blend in. 

    People suffer from all kinds of diseases. For me, it's my skin. One day, our quest for blemish free skin will be a reality but I would be an old by then. Sometimes, I come here to read about the latest research towards scar free wound healing. It would be fantastic if someone would find an answer to this problem as it would help many people to regain their confidence back. 
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    3 hours ago, agelessfrost said:
    Oh dear....are your scars raised or depressed? I think recell helps with pigmentation (hypo - white). 
     
    My scars are slightly raised above the skin's surface. They are small but quite extensive. They look like goosebumps or whiteheads that didn't develop fully giving me a chicken skin like appearance. Many people have them after suffering from years of extensive body acne but existing treatments do very little.

    Sometimes hair grows out from the center of the tiny scar. Some are as small as 1 mm while others can be as big as up to 5 mm. I believe we can call the bigger ones hypertrophic scarring. Point is my upper arms, back and shoulders are covered by these things. I have also a few on my jawline, thighs and buttocks. 

    They are the remnants of the cysts and boils I used to get as a teenager. The smaller ones go by many names like perifollicular elastolysis, mid dermal elastolysis or papular acne scars and seem to have a connection to another skin condition known as anetoderma. Some say they disappear after a few months or years but mine have been liggering around forever. 

    That's acne for you. 
     
     
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    1 hour ago, Anish004 said:

    Actually the problem we dont recieve scarless healing till now is the problem with researchers

    every dumbass researchee start his own new approach and take different pathway to scarless healing some take TGF B , Some take WNT pathway some take LGR 
    cells some takr amniotic fluid..everybody starts a new approach if they concetrated on one thing from past and continue researching on it they would had acheieved this 10 years ago

    now u see if any new company joins this research he start a new strategy he says altering of ABC ALPHA GAMA gene will result in scarless healing we proved that in rats ...lol even some rats achieved scarless healing during experiments and we are still waiting it would be better that if we start doing different things to small wounds created in our legs and experimenting with different things ..maybe we find something which heal it without scars and also than our experiment we do it on ourselves no FDA approval needed

    somebody posted that dextran hydrogel composition way back in this thread ..should we create it with help of a chemistry knowlegable person ???

    Believe me, if big pharma discovered a way to eliminate scarring, they would jump on the opportunity right away. Nobody can crack the code. Some reserachers say they have but there is not much out there to support their claim.

    Big pharma doesn't seem to think scarring is a problem. Thus, they don't care and rather use existing scar revision methods which often do little for profit. 

    I am still not convinced about SkinTE but let's see where it goes. I would love to get my skin back and eliminate the scars from this unnecessary skin disease. 

    Applying weird things on your scars would cause more problems I believe and make them worse. 
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    12 hours ago, agelessfrost said:

    Maybe skin regeneration and scarless healing will be in a distant future (x 10 years from now). For now, I think we can do a medley of treatments to camouflage our scars. 

    For Stretch Marks

    Step 1. Microneedling and dermastamping (or single needling) for about 1 year or 1 and a 1/2 years. 


    Maybe combine with peels (tca cross) or topical iodine - which may regenerate the skin further. 

    Step 2. Camouflage softened scars with skin colored tattoos. By now the stretch mark/linear scar should be 70 - 80% improved.  (This result is without microneedling). 

    For Acne Scars

    Step 1. Microneedling and dermastamping (or single needling) for about 1 year or 1 and a 1/2 years. 


    Again combine with peels (tca cross) or topical iodine. 

    Step 2. Fillers for depressed acne scarring. Some good results:  to help. 

    Step 3. Consistent dermarolling or stamping to improve scars. 

    Thoughts? It won't be perfect but I'm so depressed and right now I think its better to give this a try than nothing. Maybe when I'm in my mid 30's, I'll regenerate my scars and live life normally. 

    My issue is not so much my face but the sides of my back, upper arms and shoulders. My face has some small pockmarks but it's not a big issue per say. My back is covered with small white marks from horrendous bacne that is still lingering around. I don't think any existing treatments help with my condition. 
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    The pictures of the leg healing wound remind me of someone who had a bad scrape that is healing. For most people, this is how wounds heal. A healed wound leaves a white mark behind, what is known as scar tissue. Over time, the scar tissue softens and becomes less noticeable. This is normal and how the body repairs itself. Hyperpigmentation tends to linger long for many people but eventually goes away. 

    There are exceptions however. People with acne scars tend to have deep pits. Others tend to develop raised scars known as hypertrophic scarring or keloids. 

    SkinTE's claim of scarless healing are not true judging from those pics. 

    Will it help people with severe scarring or will it be a better alternative to skin grafts, I truly believe so. However, it is not scarless. 

    There is still a lot of progress to be made. 

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    Hi there, 

    I'm new to this forum. Let me start by saying that I am a young guy in his early thirties still struggling with this common skin affliction known as acne. The condition has destroyed my confidence over the years but hasn't held me back from achieving my goals. I accepted my sad state of skin as a young adult and realized I will never grow out of it. 

    Dermatologists were not that helpful often prescribing harmful antibiotics which did little. I used all kinds of soaps but saw no improvement. I tried different diets and saw no change. I stopped worrying about it some point, my breakouts now are less common. I never tried Accutane since I was worried about all those crazy side effects.

    I have found that strong acids like vinegar, benzoyl peroxide and rubbing alcohol as well as some minutes of daily sun exposure seem to help with drying up pimples and preventing new ones. 
      
    Here is my story. As a teenager, I developped severe cystic acne all over my upper arms, shoulders, most of my back, thighs, buttocks and most of my face. I had a few around my neck and stomach as well but fairly none on my chest. I also believe that I was afflicted with folliculitis in combination with acne that went undiagnosed. The worst boils I ever got were on my back close to my spine. Those were quite painful and large.  

    The condition has left me with slightly small raised white scars all over my back, shoulders, jawline, thighs, buttocks and upper arms. I still breakout with fairly new cysts on these areas every week or so although it is not as severe as 15 years ago. I have researched extensively on the subject and learned that these scars can be classed as anything from hypertrophic scarring or perifollicular elastolysis. They go by other names such as mid dermal elastolysis or popular acne scars and may be related to another skin disease known as anetoderma. I have a combination of different acne scars on my body. 

    My face has several scars mostly dents from previous cysts but their appearance seems to have gotten better with time. The holes have filled up a little over the years and most people won't notice unless under certain lights. I still get occasional pimples on my face but they heal fast and don't leave scars no more. As you guys know, these dents go by many names : atrophic scars, ice pic scars or boxcar scars. I don't have any rolling scars which is a blessing. I believe rolling scars are the worst type of acne scarring to have. 
     
    I am very conscious about my acne scars and often won't take off my shirt in public. I avoid swimming pools. I avoid shaving because I get pimples aka folliculitis right after. I often travel and like beaches, but I find most people don't realize my scars are there. It's mostly in my head. 
     
    I believe everyone has a scar that they would love to get rid of. I have many scars from injuries and unexpected accidents as well but I don't mind these. 
     
    Reading about SkinTE, Sunogel, BioMED Birch, Cotsarelis' research, Neofam, Renova, etc, gives me hope about eliminating the left overs of my cysts. 

    There are many teenagers and young adults out there that are emotionally crippled by severe acne. I don't believe any teenager or young adult should be scarred for life by boils or cysts. 

    I am very hopeful that a researcher will crack the code one day and provide relief to many out there who suffer from severe disfigurement or missing limbs. I believe that humans can regenerate but mother nature has stopped us from doing so because somehow she knew we would be unstoppable. For now, we are not there yet. We need to realize many of these startups may fail to deliver. 

    We should learn to accept our scars and enjoy life starting now. These years will not come back. The scars do improve with time and people do understand our ordeal. There are many people out there with acne scars with succesful careers and nobody ever says a word about their scars spare few shallow narrow minded individuals. 

    I hope I made some of you feel better about your acne scars.