- Last Week
30 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:
Yep me too!!
any wound healing is just horrendous
got a mosquito bite 3 months ago that I scratched a bit.....the red is still there, I get out of the shower and see it each morning - bloody crazy!!
The dryness - that’s a whole other story....
No moisture at all in face or hair
The more and more i read, the more it does sound like my body isn't getting enough Vitamin A to complete this process and that all these years I shouldn't have avoided it.
For about a year after accutane I was taking a strong multivitamin and whilst my skin was a little dry, I had periods of it being oily and it wasn't like it is now at all, nowhere close, everything seemed to heal quicker back then rather than slower, I think I had a really high skin cell turnover rate. Now it just seems as though it doesn't turnover at all. Every time I get a spot or whitehead now, the red mark doesn't heal over and just stays, so every time I get one it's devastating to me. It shouldn't be like this at all. Hopefully supplementing BC for 2 weeks shows some difference and I can pinpoint that being the issue. I'll keep you posted.
22 hours ago, TrueJustice said:
Yeah I’m reconsidering my options with Vit A too
I have recently pointed out though that when having Kinesiology, Vit A did stress my body out when tested with the vile
Having done some work over last few weeks I am now responding better to it - both A and Beta Carotene aren’t stressing me out - this could only be the result of Tane messing things up!!
I’m now curious on how I’d respond supplementing BC but I’m trying to avoid self diagnosing which up till recently has been out of control for me, definitely something I’m trying to avoid. I’d run it by practitioner and get their thoughts firstly
Currently I’m responding well to both B12 & ALA which I’ll continue.
I’m also curious about this Forskolin product but will see what others have to say before I look into it more. This cAMP is a new area of inquiry that’s for sure!!
Slow wound healing, improper keratinisation and skin scaling, bumps on the backs of arms, dry skin (severe).
I don't have any vision issues and although my vision isn't the best at night, I wouldn't classify it as night blindness, although it has got worse in the past few years.
I just don't have normal skin anymore, I wouldn't even care about the scarring and redness if it just acted like normal skin and it wasn't wafer thin, painful and dry and affecting every aspect of my day. The only time im comfortable in my skin is at night, lathered in cream, looking like absolute crap when nobody can see me. It wasn't like this on accutane or for years after so i'm inclined to think avoiding vitamin A has just made it worse as the years have rolled on.
On 10/7/2018 at 6:20 AM, Fchawk said:My main point is don't avoid it and vitamin A, because Isotretinoin is not vitamin A, and infact can cause vitamin A deficiency.
Isotretinoin-Induced Night Blindness
Oral isotretinoin, neuropathy and hypovitaminosis A
The second link has case studies which suggests between Vitamin A deficiency pre treatment and suffering depression due to accutane, and by supplementing vitamin A mid treatment helped.
Beta-carotene is safer than straight vitamin A supplementation, so while I used vitamin A myself, BC is probs safer because it is only converted if your body recognises a need for vitamin A (though it is possible isotretinoin reduces conversion because it fucks with the body in mysterious ways, in that case Beta Carotene would just act as an antioxidant)
I've avoided Vitamin A for the most part since accutane (i even supplemented vitamin A for a bit shortly after) and my dry skin has gotten worse and worse over the years. I may start supplementing beta carotene to see how i get on. Most of my symptoms are that of vitamin A deficiency, down to the bumps on the backs of my arms (they appeared whilst on accutane and have been there for nearly a decade since).
- More Than a Month
10 hours ago, TrueJustice said:
Yep, aside from the fatigue and mental issues I’d love nothing more than finding moisture again for both my skin and my hair, I’m just so dry and can’t find a cure.
My hair is thin and wiry and greying prematurely and my face is as dry as a bone.
Dont know what to do
9 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:
I’m at a loss, I’m doing the whole kinesiology thing which I’m happy to continue with but a couple of other things that concern me:
There’s two schools of thought - those that say avoid all Vit A and there’s that YouTube video that says take liquid Vit A as part of the reversing Accutane side effects. As per usual no one really knows do they!!?
Also, where is everyone who once posted on here? People coming on forum all guns blazing and then they just disappear....
Have they all just gone off to work on the anti Vit A diet.....,reporting back in 10 years time or something.
As I said, I've tried both methods (off vitamin A for years) and don't notice an ounce of difference either way. I really don't think it matters. Most of the Vit A we get in our diet is from veg, which is beta carotene anyway, which has a really low vit A conversion rate. 3% i think i read once.
I've spent so much time over the last few years obsessing over my diet and what i should and shouldn't eat because of my skin. I'm tired, I just want to be able to get on with life without stressing about my facial skin every day.
On 9/14/2018 at 12:00 PM, hillcountry said:
Hi True Justice - my summary of Grant Genereux’s theory wasn’t clear enough. Much of his research into the rising epidemics of so-called auto-immune diseases identifies the simultaneous rise in Vit A intake that may be the underlying cause. Modern supplementation in food (milk and cereal for example) and vitamin pills, plus the non-linear rise in fish oil consumption, plus the “healthy eating” craze of overconsumption of Vit A vegetables, combines to overwhelm the liver’s capacity to store this potential toxin safely, which it releases in a non-destructive, transportable form under normal circumstances.
When capacity is breached, the retinol and its more toxic sibling, Retinoic Acid, are stashed away in fat cells and endothelial tissue, and as I understand the theory so far, we get to the point where there’s quite a bit of “free floating” A and RA causing stem cell disturbances that trigger immune responses, inflammation and tissue damage.
Reaching liver capacity used to take decades, but now these diseases are hitting younger people who are growing up consuming much more Vit A than those of us in our 60’s and 70’s did. The Accutane discussions over at his blog (thanks Admin for doing the link edit) are in this context above. I’m still sorting and self-referencing the information but am convinced enough to get as close to Zero A intake as possible, due to a couple of “auto-immune” conditions that have given me a bunch of grief over the years.
Do any of you still have the bumps/red spots on the backs of your arms since accutane? They started with accutane and are apparently a symptom of vitamin A deficiency. I'm about 8 years post accutane and they're still there most of the time, though some days/weeks they almost disappear.
Just wondering if that could have something to do with how much i increase or decrease my vitamin A intake around that time.
I wasn't well informed after accutane and was taking a multi vitamin that contained vitamin A for a while afterwords until i realized I may be causing harm. Since that time i spent years avoiding all forms of vitamin A, didn't have dairy, veg, sweet potato, nothing.
The past year I started eating those things again and it really hasn't made a difference either way, still have painfully dry skin and impaired wound healing. Although, my skin is the only issue so the years off of vitamin A may have saved me other side effects.
3 hours ago, macleod said:
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On 7/25/2018 at 12:58 PM, TrueJustice said:
I gather you’ve tried products like Baxyl but they haven’t increased the moisture?
I had no real issues with dryness whilst on Accutane 20 years ago, my overall dryness now though especially with the face is horrendous!!
I’ve got no sebaceous glands, I sweat like no ones business, in summer it just pours out of me I hate to say....
I've actually been using a barrier repair cream day and night for 4 or 5 months now and it keeps it well hydrated and you wouldn't really know it's still dry unless you're me and live in it, however, the damage the extreme dryness has left behind isn't healing at all which is why i'd love the stem cell treatment.
Lines, redness, large pores, all caused by leaving it so dry for so many years.
I've just ordered some 10% glycolic acid to test for a few months to see if the constant exfoliation can help with this. From my research it sounds like something that would really help me in the long term. I definitely won't be trying anything above 10% or having a peel done, I think that would do more harm to my skin than good.
On 7/21/2018 at 5:18 PM, Devolution said:
That could be useful for me and anyone else whos lost, or who's hair has thinned from this, we do need to fix the underlying issue but if it doesn't grow back naturally, stem cells definitely look promising.
At this point I feel like it would be the only thing that could possibly heal my skin.