1. If you read most of my posts you will notice I only refer to significant and deep scarring. I in no way compare myself to those with mild to moderate scarring. In fact, most people who post pictures up here and complain about scars really get me down because they obviously dont have anything to worry about and they just want that extra pat on the back. I'm just here to provide objective evaluations on the efficacy of these treatments. Alot of these doctors I've been to promise more than they can deliver. And I have posted my pictures on here before, but even since then my scarring has gotten deeper and more severe. My scars are similar to Ernestoria's; however, still worse in some areas. I also have a ruddy, death white, redhead, freckled complexion, so my challenges are still more steep than his. I have had dermabrasion, Fraxel, fillers, punch excisions, so yes I have had invasive invasive procedures and spent lots of money. I have spoken with several doctors recently, including a dermatlogist I shared a flight with who remarked about how severe my scarring was, and I felt like ending my life it was so depressing to hear that. It's one thing to look at yourself in the mirror and to judge yourself harshly, but to hear it confirmed by others confirms just how severe it really is. This all happened recently, and the negative comments about my scars coming from objective professionals hurts far more than having it come from my younger sister trying to be cruel or my grandmother trying to pity me. I don't want to post photos of myself, or even look at my face anymore. Imean just look at how long ive been posting on this board. I'm about to be 30 and have realized I lost all of my 20s to depression over severe acne scarring. Im not married. I have no children. My shrink who's been trying for years and bounced me around from clinic to clinic can't help me. I just want to wear a mask.
  2. I agree with the first part and disagree with the second. This collagen build up after three months isn't really always true. I've had multiple so called 'non-invasive' lasers that were supposed to do just that 3 months out. Of course, they did not and I ended up wasting more money.
  3. After I had my dermabrasion, my scars looked better for like 2 to 3 months out, but they came back soon after that. It really is tricky to know when the actual swelling subsides because if you're skin is really sensitive like mine and you're still raw, when you rub your face it swells slightly every time until you heal completely.
  4. Any pic updates? I want to see how your scarring looks. Usually, fo some stange reason, after a couple months all the scarring comes back for me after invasive procedures. This happens to alot of other people on here too and it really is a kick in the stomach. I want to see your pics in a couple months again, please! Good luck.
  5. Scarless Healing

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    oh well, we will see. Ive heard about a lot of things nearing hitting market until last minute problems come up and you never see of hear about it again. We really can't be sure here. My doctor is a dermatologic surgeon, so I am sure he knows a thing or two more about it than I would. I would think these doctors would need to keep abreast on this kind of thing. It was just disheartening to hear.
  6. Scarless Healing

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    I spoke with my doctor about the stem cells. HE SAID POINT BLANK IT IS A LONG WAY OFF. hE ALSO SAID THAT THEY've been regenerating limbs and fingers, etc.. with the stem cell techniques for years and none of it has hit market yet. He was not all impressed and not promising at all for it ever hitting market and making any significant difference in acne scars. So, now I have no more hope and have stopped thinking about this.
  7. We are barely into the clinical trials phase with Recell!! That means wait another 10 years for this to hit market. I had a feeling i'd have to go to London for this.
  8. Recell has a corporate office in MA, so there must be doctors I can find that can do this 3-way combo in CO. I really want to see what he looks like in several months. This combo is probably very powerful, two of the reputed most effective treatments and a new cutting-edge regenerative finishing touch. If he gets 70% improvement for only 15 days of downtime there will definitely be hope for all of us. I haven't heard about the bumpy fibrotic tissue theory, but I do know swelling can be a real bitch, too. I know I can be a killjoy sometimes, but that's just because I am obsessing at the thought of this actually working now lol. London seems to be more on the ball with the latest acne scar treatments though. They even get stem cells.
  9. Lets all keep our fingers crossed that improvement stays. You still have swelling that will go down. A 50% improvement may be possible afterwards though if what they say is tru and collagen formation continues after the swelling subsides. Just give us your thoughts in a few months. Out of everything I've researched, I definitely want to try this combo, especially because of the down time. My forehead is REALLY bad!! Can you get this RECELL in the states?
  10. Hold the phone everyone!! I am not going to judge results yet until we see good before and afters 2 months out at least. Lets all judge these results objectively without jumping to conclusions. ERNESTORIA please remember to post pictures and give us your thoughts on improvement a couple months from now. Regardless of what you have done to reduce swelling it is still there, trust me! I've had many invasive procedures before.
  11. Treatments that work - My experience

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    After reading his post, I realize he leaves us with no options for depressed scars. The treatments you list that you say don't work are pretty much all the major treatments that are available currently.
  12. Forehead scarring

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    I have severe forehead scarring. From my expereince this scarring is just as difficult to treat as scarring on the cheeks and temples. All scarring is impossible to remove.
  13. Scarless Healing

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    Ok, so I have not been on this board in quite some time and am wondering how this will help depressed acne scars. Like most, after spending lots of $$ on dermabrasion, fraxel, excisions, silicone microdroplet, etc.. I have given up. The good news about having given up is that I have finally been able to get my credit card balances down, which were horrendous when I was at the height of my depression over this. Unfortunately, after all of the procedures, my scars still look pretty much the same. If there is anything worth pursuing that is more effective, then please let me know. FYI...there is an interesting story about a male model who was able to go from 5'10 to 6'2 with leg lengthening surgery, and come out of it functioning compleletly normal in only 6 months time. Yes, folks, you heard it from me, you can buy a pair of long legs, but cannot buy scarless skin. If they can grow bones, then why can't we take care of such a nothing little problem like depressed acne scars??!!
  14. saw plastic surgeon today

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    1000 bucks seems like a reasonable price for that. This is one of the few treatments I actually have not tried and would kill to have it.
  15. Do we all have similar personalities?

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    I know I am not a perfectionist. I could definitely stand some shallow scarring. Unfortunately, My scars are bad enough to disturb anyone. I don't know how that happened to this day!! How did my skin get so so bad, just by squeezing!! It is especially hard when I stand in front of a public bathroom mirror at work next to someone with no scars and I can see how horribly pockmarked and uneven my skin looks next to theirs. I can't help but feel like I should put myself down like a sick dog at that point. What a horrible sinking feeling I get when that happens!
  16. :(

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    ughh, Im gonna go throw myself out the window.
  17. I know, seriously. But, I guess for girls it is different, but if you were a guy I would be worried.
  18. BACK ACNE SCARS HELP!!!!!!!

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    I didn't even break out as much as you and yet my back still looks worse than yours- full of these horrible saucers that catch bad lighting easily.
  19. Fraxel Be4 and Afters

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    http://www.doctorskin.com.au/FraxelLaserTreatment.html
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    I popped mine and it started to look like that. Popping defintely gets your scars like that! Luckliy I learned in time, but my scarring is still quite severe, too. Honestly, superwoofer, I'd hate to sugarcoat it for you, but you will go through a lot of pain in life if you start to fixate on those. Those are there for a lifetime, and unfortunately there's not much in the way of treatments you can do. Just try not to look in the mirros, car windows, or any other types of refelctions, ESPECIALLY the backs of CD's while in your car. Mine are really severe too and you just have to try and pick yourself up by your bootstraps and keep going. I wouldn't waste your money on anything right now, as these treatments are designed for people with way better skin than we have.
  21. Fraxel Be4 and Afters

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    Well the Asian girl seems to be in harsher lighting in the after. But, the reason I think that one is shitty is because they are catching her on her microswelling. You can see she's all red in the after. It's obvious they took it too soon-like a few days after at most. I would know because I've had two already and know how long that type of redness usually lasts. And her cheeks look puffy. Infact, there's another one further down that looks like they did the same deal. She's noticeably redder in the after, too. Nope, sorry but don't expect me to be impressed by that!
  22. Scarless Healing

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    As negative as Rupert may be about this whole thing, I have been inclined to agree with him from the beginning. What he says I have always believed to be true for many years now. It's just that not much true research is being done solely on depressed scars, and if it is, it's not conclusive or compelling enough to effect a siginifacnt step. I really don't know of many if any people having ever had dramatic improvement with moderate to severe scarring since I joined almost 5 years ago.
  23. Scarless Healing

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    I'm terribly sorry to hear of your experience Ylem, so all of your excisions didn't work? Were any slightly better or were they all for the worst. Did you discuss this with your various PS? I was reccomended excision and the PS seemed confident which shocks me if he knew that a poor result was likely. Nothing I have done has ever made me worse. IT just hasn't had any notcieable cosmetic effect. Ylem, i'm sure you have also stated hundreds of times before that you believe you do not produce collegen at the same rate as most people? I think the way in which we react to scar treatment depends on our ability to heal, i know that i gained all of my scars on accutane when my healing was very poor. All of my scars are very shallow as well, so i hold out hope that mine will be treated effectively. Although i know i will never rid of them... One thing that just pisses me off is that I truly have the absolute WORST scarring. It's not fair and I feel so cheated out of life when I see people post their pics and complain on here. It's so distressing to have to bear having people always wander their eyes across my face whe n I speak to them because of the extreme severity of the scarring./ And the worst part is I keep trying everything and it has all failed. I can't help but obsess over it because It continues to gradually look wrose.
  24. Scarless Healing

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    I'm terribly sorry to hear of your experience Ylem, so all of your excisions didn't work? Were any slightly better or were they all for the worst. Did you discuss this with your various PS? I was reccomended excision and the PS seemed confident which shocks me if he knew that a poor result was likely. Nothing I have done has ever made me worse. IT just hasn't had any notcieable cosmetic effect.
  25. Scarless Healing

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    While it seems logical Juvista would work this way for depressed scars, we don't know that for a fact, and I don't see any evidence of clinical trials to support this whatsoever. Remember, and I have learned this hard-to-accept fact over the years, often what we perceive to be the outcome on DEPRESSED scars is never like the true result. This product may be more effective in preventing SURGICAL SCARS. And many realize ATROPHIC scars function quite differently. There are other reasons for pitting, and these reasons have not been determined conclusively yet. I do not feel confident at all this drug would counteract the pitting in any way. To me it seems like it would be more effective for hypertrophic or keloid scars, where excess tissue is layed down during wound healing. It probably has a mechanism to inhibit that biological process, but PITTING is different. The term scar is too blanketed because all scars are different. Bottom-line, I am not at all excited about this until I see evidence of clinical trials on treating atrophic acne scars. Too many products, including Fraxel, are touted as being effective for acne scarring when in fact there are no clinical trials done to support these claims. Fraxel is FDA cleared for Melasma and photodamage, NOT acne pitting. I would agree it will probably be a waste of my money, even though it is all I can cling to at this point. It is my last resort. So, NECA, did you try Fraxel 2 and at what settings?