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  1. You need to try accutane at this point in my opinion. Like you really do sound like you're incredibly depressed both from acne and from life in general. This is totally understandable and normal. There have been hundreds of thousands of people on isotretinoin and only a few people have bad reactions or not have it work for them. They are just very vocal is all. Most people get cured and move on with their lives! And some folks like me at least get an improvement, at least for a while, which is better than nothing. I feel you don't have much to lose and you can always stop taking it if you hate it. I had no bad side effects except some chapped skin. Please give it some thought before despairing totally. (The other thing that is helping me at the moment is b5 (not megadosing, just 1.5 grams) and completely eliminating sugar. I mean completely. Not "cutting out" or trying to avoid it. Be religiously devoted to NO SUGAR. Some sugar from fruit is ok but keep it at a minimum. And eat low glycemic. Basically eat like a diabetic vegan. It sounds hard but it's not. I just ate a big fantastic miso soup and I'm totally full. Please give these things a try.)
  2. Good Things For The Many Factors That Lead To Acne

    My old hyperpigmentation is clearing. I get a tiny little bump once in awhile in random locations, but they aren't really whiteheads, more like a clogged pore. They go away quickly. Redness from rosacea is down a bunch. I'm only taking 1.5 grams of b5 a day, still eating the same way. I "cheated" yesterday with some vegan creamer that has sugar in it. I had a slight darkening of red spots but it's gone now so I really think sugar is a problem for me. I haven't been this clear since I was at the end of my courses of Accutane. This shit is CRAY ya'll.
  3. 17 years of acne, nothings working and fed up! (pics included)

    Hey OP, I was on accutane twice and I did NOT have any major problems with it, besides some dry skin. So a lot of people tolerate it really well. However, my acne did come back, although not as bad. That's not to say it will with you, but it is a possibility. I would personally try it anyway just in case you do get permanent or at least long term relief from acne. I think it's definitely worth it. On a side note, when you said you reduced sugar intake, by how much did you mean? I have long reduced my sugar intake, but it actually took COMPLETELY ELIMINATING any processed sugar PLUS eating "low GI" to have a great effect on my skin. (And adding plant fats like chia or flax with each meal to further slow down glucose spikes.) I just thought it might be worth it for you to try this. I was born with hypoglycemia problems but I never put two and two together until recently. If you have trouble with blood sugars, this may be helpful.
  4. The diet & lifestyle to cure acne!

    Humans have been eating grains for .. well, since paleolithic times. They've found grains in the teeth of neandertal skulls. So I don't think grains (especially "older" grains like barley, teff, oats, quinoa, chia, amaranth, and buckwheat, wild rice, ect) are a problem for most people. I mean, we don't exactly have photographs, but based on what we know, acne is a pretty modern problem. If grains caused problems historically, people would have been avoiding them and there would be legends and tales about how they damage complexions. (I know enough of mythology and history to know that bread eating societies didn't talk much about acne.) I think people should start out by avoiding things that are the more typical cause of problems, like processed sugar.
  5. Carbs - Insulin - Acne link??

    Whoa, I think you have a point there, I never thought about. For a lot of people post-accutane, maybe even myself included, that could be true! Before accutane, my acne was "moderate", but my rocasea was severe, which made my moderate acne look WAY WORSE than it might have otherwise. But Accutane cured both 100% while I was on it and a few months after. My acne did come back, but for the most part not as bad. My bacne went away completely for years. It's only now, like 5 or 6 years later, that it's all come back, plus some. So for others who haven't been off so long, natural methods may be "sealing the deal" so to speak. For me right now, my regimen (of diet and supps) is actually working, but maybe it wouldn't be as effective had I not previously been on Accutane! BTW I know exactly what you mean about feeling oils under the skin. I can actually feel this prickly inflammation feeling when I'm getting oily and it almost always presages a breakout. D:
  6. The OP said, and I quote: " But I'm not writing to find out which of these theories, if any, is true. I want to see if anyone can actually give good advice on supplements/diet, or whatever else, to repair damage from this poison. " "In my opinion" were the first three words of my post, so it's pretty obvious I was sharing anecdotal information? I gave him the best advice I could give, and if you don't like the advice, feel free to skip my post instead of being passive agressive, my pal. (Furthermore, there is plenty of data that supports my claims on processed oils and on treatment of both IBS and ED), which you are totally free to research in your own free time, if you wish. Although my stories are personal, the healing that occured via specific dietary changes is by no means unique.) I had high cholesterol and it took a while but it's at a good place right now according to my last visit with my endo. Most people I've heard from have been able to lower theirs with a plant based diet, which excludes processed oils (and believe me, olive and coconut oils are very processed.) If you have the time, check out Nutritionfacts.org, a non-profit site run by Dr Michael Gregor. He basically gathers all the scientific literature on various health and diet subjects and tackles them by category. He does not have an "agenda" and is pretty unbiased. His site has a search function so that you can look up topics that interest you. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/olive-oil-and-artery-function/
  7. Why am I only on 10mg Accutane?

    Okay, I think your doctor actually has a point. I was on 20mg a day and it cleared me (for a while). Actually I started spacing them out so that it was every other day and I still maintained clear skin. For me, Accutane works extremely quickly. My skin gets worse the first 4 days and then starts to resolve itself. Within 3 weeks I am almost clear. Unfortunately it doesn't LAST long for me once I'm off it. It's true that the old mega doses are outdated and possible dangerous and unnecessary for most people. The lowest effective dose is the safest. It may take a long time for you to see results but the plus side is less intense side effects.
  8. I personally do not believe that Accutane is necessarily at fault for any of the diseases listed above, because these diseases/illnessesare typical of the western population in general, and it is probably impossible to separate out which cases are possibly caused by the drug and which are just the end result of poor diet and lifestyle choices (or genetics.) I don't believe there is any evidence that it shortens telomeres, and if so I'd like to see the studies on that. I have been on Accutane twice myself, and while my acne came back, I was clear for a while. I did not suffer any long term adverse effects except temporary dry skin. I used to have IBS (before Accutane, had it for years) and this was completely cured by going on a whole foods plant based diet. In other words a strict vegan diet with no processed foods except tofu and the like. I had a bad case that medication was NOT helping and yet after years of this, going plant based within 3 weeks cured me completely. So if you have problems with that, I cannot recommend this way of eating enough. (Veganism itself did not cure my skin issues, though.) As far as ED goes, it is almost always caused by cholesterol blockages "down yonder". In fact ED is the first symptom of heart disease. Best cure for that is again going on a plant based, high fiber, zero processed (especially no oils) diet. My partner had issues before going plant based and he is more than great now. I really think you should look up Dr Mcdougall for this. He has very good advice for this problem on Youtube! I am really sorry that you started having problems after Accutane. Dry skin, eyes and trouble with sebum is indeed a side effect of Accutane but hopefully with time you will see some healing take place.
  9. I know how you feel!! Sometimes it can also be annoying to hear people say "just live your life" because if it were that easy we wouldn't all be here in this group! I understand feeling like I'm the only one with bad skin .. like out of all my friends I think only a couple besides me have troubled skin and they are really good at makeup so I can't even tell. And I've spent untold amounts on skincare and products, have a regimen I follow religiously, but they don't have to do ANYTHING and yet theirs is so clear and nice?? How fair is that? (and they can eat pizza and everything too! Uhg!) But hey friend don't worry. 22 is still really young. When I was 20 I met my now-husband and my skin was actually worse than it has been recently. I would call off dates and stay home bc my skin felt so bad. I would cover it up but it was so dry and flaky I'd want to cry. And I'd wear makeup at night if I spent the night at his place, bc I was so scared of him seeing my skin. (Of course this made it worse) Yet he was still totally in love with me and didn't care about my skin at all. So even though we feel this way about ourselves, doesn't mean that others do. You're definitely not an ugly monster at all!! People can and will love you no regardless of some spots that will come and go. Heck, my partner has always stayed with me even though I came out as trans. So when you find the right person they will love you for what's on the inside, as corny as that sounds! Please have hope! <3
  10. My feeling on the matter

    I know when life has been hard it is very easy to slip into a cynical and self-centered viewpoint. I don't mean to say you are being selfish or that how you feel is wrong at all, by the way. It is simply how you feel and it is neither right nor wrong. From what I understand, you want to feel positive again, like you used to, right? And right now you feel like the world is terrible and you don't want to involve yourself in it. But what I think could be an underlying issue you MAY have (and no I'm not a doctor, I just have decades of experience with it myself) .. is a possible case of severe clinical depression. Everything you said might as well have giant red arrows all over it. Believe me, having had it nearly my whole life, I've learned to notice the signs in other people. So depression is a big, complicated issue, made even worse when you have physical disabilities and illnesses (this includes chronic severe acne in my book.) It is extremely hard to feel positive about life when you have injuries on your face that cause physical and mental trauma! But I don't want you to feel like getting better is impossible. If it is at all possible for you, I think you should look into counseling or therapy. I don't know how you feel about those things but they can be really helpful. The other things that helped me were improving my diet, opening up spiritually (this does not mean you have to be religious), and practicing empathy. It takes time but I hope you have success if you go this route.
  11. Dealing with worsening acne

    When you go out into the woods and you look at trees, you see all these different trees. And some of them are bent, and some of them are straight, and some of them are evergreens, and some of them are whatever. And you look at the tree and you allow it. You appreciate it. You see why it is the way it is. You sort of understand that it didn’t get enough light, and so it turned that way. And you don’t get all emotional about it. You just allow it. You appreciate the tree. The minute you get near humans, you lose all that. And you are constantly saying ‘You’re too this, or I’m too this.’ That judging mind comes in. And so I practice turning people into trees. Which means appreciating them just the way they are. -Ram Dass I know it's really corny, but by the gods this has helped me more than anything on my worst days. We're all just trees.
  12. Good Things For The Many Factors That Lead To Acne

    Please do update me. :-) I wish I had pictures! My phone is actually a little TOO good, and automatically makes my skin look better than it is, lol .. So it's only been 6 days, a bit premature maybe, but I'll just give an update, which turned out to be rather wordy, sorry!: From what it was at the worst of the recent breakout I think I have improved about 85%. That's a big deal for me!! I still have some inflammation going on .. right now about 4 or five whiteheads in random locations of my face, and other red spots gathered on my lower cheeks that are just hyperpigmentation or clogged pores (these areas were the worst and are gonna take some time to heal. The folliculitis on my forehead is MUCH better, although one area close to the hairline is still bumpy and reddish. Before, I had some cystic stuff starting, and every single pore on my face was inflamed or a whitehead. So I can deal with this, lol! When it was really bad (about 2.5 weeks ago) my chest and back were starting to break out heinously. And my rocasea was VERY bad. I have been on accutane before, which cleared my back for years, so to see that PLUS chest acne suddenly? Pretty mortifying. Chest/bacne is about 70% better. Still somewhat itchy and inflamed but only 2-3 obvious whiteheads as opposed to 10-15. D: And the rocasea is better too, although people say ask me if I've gotten sun recently. Clearing as much as I have like this simply does NOT happen for me unless I'm on Accutane. So I may have stumbled upon something here? I really hope it's not just a placebo or short term thing. Or just dumb luck which will reverse itself when I finally relax. Here's what I'm doing that have helped: -Eating a vegan, LOW GI, near-zero sugar diet with a good amount of plant fats (but no processed oils, and actually no processed anything except tofu) -taking b5 (only 2 grams a day, not a megadose really, but a good amount) - vitamin c (500mg twice daily), magnesium (can't remember dose, a standard amount I think), and a multi. Lysine for skin healing and also bc I get cold sores -vit d 10,000 IU a day (seems like a lot, but it's just 2 500ui pills a day, and is completely safe for most people) -calming teas like chamomile help inflammation somewhat for me I haven't changed anything else much at all. I still have terrible sleep habits and rarely get into the sun (I sleep during the day due to work and also being a vampire) so for me to clear a bit despite these bad habits is pretty neat! (By the way, when I say plant fats, I'm talking about things like avocados, chia, flax, coconut, and unprocessed unsalted nuts. I think the fats have helped my skin be less dry/eczema-ish and also slow down digestion and blood sugar spikes.) I am lowering the dose of b5 to 1.5 grams a day bc what I'm taking seems effective and it's expensive stuff. The most important angles that I believe are helping are removing processed sugar completely from the diet (that includes things like agave, honey, or any kind of syrup), eating low GI, and b5. I am vegan for ethical and spiritual reasons, and have been for a while, but it has never helped my skin. In fact, the last two years I've eaten a very low fat somewhat high GI diet. It's kept me thin (healed my IBS) and lowered my cholesterol but I could never figure out why my skin was still crap! It's not like I've always eaten tons of sugar, but it seems like my indulgences in vegan junk food (cough oreos cough) might have been causing some issues. Plus I've always eaten a ton of white rice and white potatoes. Both of which are healthy, for normal people anyway. But I was born with a predisposition to hypoglycemia, and suddenly everything is starting to make sense! I obviously have trouble with insulin insensitivity! Sorry this was a long update. I had thai food tonight, veggies/tofu and brown rice, which I haven't had in a while. I also wore makeup, which I don't usually do. Hopefully these activities won't bother my skin. By the way, if this is not a fluke and I keep having progress, I will make my own thread with very detailed advice, just in case it helps others.)
  13. I'm so sorry you had this bad experience!! Isn't it crazy how we hide away bc we lack confidence in meeting people, yet it's the hiding away part that causes us to not meet people? I hope you get another opportunity to hang out with friends and maybe see that person again. I'll bet they really wouldn't notice your skin, and if they judge you based on temporary skin blemishes, they aren't worth your time anyway, don't you think? I know it's really hard. I feel the same way depending on the worsening of my skin. I stop wanting to even go to work, much less go out with friends. I think most of us here feel like that.
  14. I wouldn't have a single problem dating anyone with acne, even severe acne as long as they had a good personality. I really wish there was a dating site like that though, it would make things so much easier.
  15. Probiotics???

    Hey there, glad you're trying veganism, I've been vegan for almost 3 years now and it's great. So, a lot of people go vegan to clear their skin and then complain that it doesn't help it very much. The thing is, just going vegan might not change much unless you have a sensitivity to dairy (which to be honest is most people, especially if you're not white.) There are a lot of factors at play. For one thing, everyone eats differently, so we are all bound to be more or less deficient in certain nutrients than other people. We are all one human species and in my opinion there is one optimal diet for the human race, just like there is an optimal diet for all the other animals on earth. Veganism is extremely helpful for many reasons: the environment, animals themselves, and your physical health. But you have to look closely at what you're actually eating to get any benefit. Also you broke out after two months, which makes me wonder if you haven't recently added something new to your vegan diet? Being clear and then suddenly having a break out seems not to be the fault of the overall diet but probably a particular trigger. For example, you can still have a terrible diet while being vegan. Oreos, potato chips, and faux cheeses can all be vegan, but they are really bad for you. What you want to do is focus on a whole plant based diet. One that has a lot of fiber and nutrients with minimal processing. You want to stay away from oils (even coconut or olive oil, they are fads and definitely not health foods, please look up doctors Esselstyn and McDougall for more info!). Get your fats from whole sources like seeds, nuts and avocados. The biggest thing is to avoid sugar. That's what I'm working on now. Removing sugar from my diet almost completely and sticking with a low GI diet is helping a lot and I've read many other accounts of it helping others. There are a lot of online charts showing low GI foods. Don't be afraid of moderate GI foods and even high GI foods can be paired with fats and fiber (like from greens) to lower the overall GI load. So you can eat white rice in small amounts, just add some kind of fat to it or lots of greens! So, to probiotics. I haven't ever taken them, as I am trying other things before I go that route. The thing is, eating a ton of fiber and nutrient rich foods like I mentioned will help your stomach biome SO MUCH, and may heal it enough so that you don't even need to go on them. I would try this way of eating for at least a few months before you go on probiotics. Probiotics can actually break some people out, so I would try fixing your gut naturally before you go there. Good luck!
  16. Curing the uncurable!!!

    Can you provide any details on your regimen with tinactin? Did a doctor give it to you or did you discover it yourself? And how do you apply it, how often, and how serious was your acne? What kind of acne did you have? Sorry about all the questions but I'm interested in this because my forehead acne seems more like folliculitis and I wonder if something like this would help it.
  17. Pleasssse help!

    When you say you avoid dairy, do you mean you just don't consume it often, or like .. ever? Some people are very sensitive to dairy and even the tiniest amount could break you out. Make sure to check ingredients in foods you wouldn't normally assume have dairy in it, because you'd be surprised! Also I would stop soda completely, 100%, it is filled with sugar and no fiber obviously it's going to be very detrimental to your blood sugar levels which can hurt your skin. In general I'd try to lower sugar intake as much as humanly possible and eat very low GI foods. Especially focus on veggies (make them the biggest portion on your plate). And keep going with your derm! It might just take some time for the meds to work. Or they can start you on something else that might help once they see this isn't working. Are you against trying accutane? It helped me A LOT, even though my acne came back it was never as bad as it was before Accutane.
  18. Carbs - Insulin - Acne link??

    And believe me I KNOW it's hard staying away from those kinds of things, especially if people around you are eating them. And it's kind of hard to fit in and be seen as a regular person when you have specific dietary needs. But have hope! Even if we have to abstain from sugary goodness for a while, they are developing an acne vaccine .. and that keeps me going on my worst days! I we can just hang on a little longer, there is light at the end of the tunnel!
  19. Can/ Does coconut oil taken internally = breakouts?

    I think it can, for some people at least. Nina and Randa (of youtube fame) can't eat any kind of oil or excess fat because it breaks them out horribly. I have tried eating their way (very low fat) and it didn't help. So I think in this instance people might have different tolerances. It doesn't seem to break me out if applied topically though.
  20. Carbs - Insulin - Acne link??

    Pasta, pizza, bread, beer and cake aren't the healthiest of foods and will be detrimental to your health in the long term anyway, so maybe it's a good thing that you break out in response to eating them. It's like your body is trying to say "hey, stop it! I can't do this forever!" In my opinion you might never be able to eat the way you used to again, but why does that have to be a bad thing? Eating junk might be easy or tasty, but if you think about it, a tasty food only gives you a moment of pleasure, whereas acne and other physical ailments are chronic and might cause years of suffering. Maybe it's just best for you to accept it and make your new diet YOUR new normal. (I'm sorry if this is not the answer you wanted. I'm in the same shoes as you.)
  21. Good Things For The Many Factors That Lead To Acne

    Thank you so much! I am noticing an improvement in my forehead acne (which actually looks more like folliculitis (sp?) to me) but I am also very superstitious and don't want to make any bold claims yet, because my skin is apparently sentient and loves to have a zit party as soon as I think it's chilled out. I will come back either way with an update in a couple more weeks time.
  22. Good Things For The Many Factors That Lead To Acne

    Hey there, I am so glad you were able to clear your skin. I've been trying to fix mine for almost as long as you but nothing has ever worked except Accutane, and even that was not permanent. I'm trying no sugar now, but may I ask how long it took for you to see any change on this kind of regimen?