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To take tane, or not to take the tane? End of water only

smiles23

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Writing this I have a heavy heart. I wanted so bad for this to work, knowing I believe in holistic = health = happiness but I have ended this water only regimen at around day 62. So 2.5 ish months. Although my facial redness and facial oiliness decreased significantly doing this regimen, I can say with confidence that, for myself, it did not prevent acne. After my infection cleared, I realized I still had some bumps that had not disappeared and had been around since the start of the infection so I ran to the clinic and the doctor reassured me that the infection was gone but that I am now dealing with mod severe cystic acne on my face... I never really had a cystic issue before the oil cleansing ordeal. He suggested accutane. this has really been a struggle for me and I have tried almost everything so I am finally at a point where yes, I am in fact considering accutane. I have such an inner conflict about this medication, and have put it off for several years until now. 

I'm mad at my body because I gave it every chance at healing itself holistically and on its own without having to come to a point of using the tane. The long term effects of accutane scare the heck out of me but my acne has also held me back from so much in life and changed my personality from an outgoing social butterfly to someone who would rather chill alone all the time watching Netflix. So I really need to weigh the pros and cons. I do not feel that my face exudes how I feel inside- inside, I'm confident with who I am, I love myself, I'm happy, yet I look in the mirror and I remember that I have acne and it brings me down. I'm really over it all, I want to look outside with the same confidence of how I feel inside for once in my 9 years of struggling with this disease. I wanted to know what the heck caused my acne but I just can't figure it out. I see the derm in 2 weeks to get the blood work rolling for the tane... In the meantime the doc gave me Epiduo, which surprisingly had deceased a lot of the active cystic bumps, but my face is really red tight and hurts... Very dry so right back to where we started prior to the water only.  

The only thing left is to check my hormones out I guess, or get an allergy test done prior to going on accutane. A person only has so much energy to put into one thing and I am so sick of having this control my thoughts daily and affect me from doing what I want to do and what I would normally do. I deserve, and you guys deserve... All of us with skin diseases, deserve to look in the mirror and be proud and happy with how we look. I fought it off emotionally for many years but this year it's really coming to a head. Haha excuse the pun. My bf did accutane about 4 years ago and his skin is so soft and clear and I can't see a pore on his face. He doesn't seem to be dealing with any adverse long term side effects (yet anyways). From the research I've done it seems accutane has some mild side effects on the t then people report 5,10 years later some severe side effects pop up (Erectile dysfunction, lack of libido, constant hair thinning, IBS, premature aging and crazier stuff like personality changes, psychotic episodes and permanent mood disorders). Sounds fan-freaking-lovely don't it. but again correlation does not equal causation... There's always a lot of factors that play into someone developing a condition later in life. 

I don't want to promote this medication because it is very very serious and really needs a lot of thought put into it before you choose to go this route.If anyone is following this blog and has tried accutane please comment below and let me know if it was worth it or what long term side effects if any you are dealing with. I've read a lot of horror stories and I'm scared to poison my body... Thank to all for following this blog. Hope the water only is working better at clearing your acne

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TBH, most drugs have weird short and long term side effects...it blows my mind how much accutane's SEs are emphasized whereas doctors hand out Spiro and BCPs like candy and fail to mention the seriousness of the damage they can do to your kidneys, heart, etc. A medication that causes blood clots and strokes, sometimes resulting in death, is taken less seriously than accutane...how does that make sense? 

For many people who take accutane, acne is almost completely or totally eradicated and derms lose business as a result. Of course they'll go through the rigamarole of handing out expensive topicals, washes and antibiotics before they give in and let you take accutane. They want to make money, like any other aesthetic or cosmetological doctor. I've become very disillusioned and bitter about the system because this is exactly what happened to me, and as a result of listening to doctors urging me to avoid accutane as a last resort, I ended up with scarring and more emotional trauma to deal with. 

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23 hours ago, cloudydreamer said:

TBH, most drugs have weird short and long term side effects...it blows my mind how much accutane's SEs are emphasized whereas doctors hand out Spiro and BCPs like candy and fail to mention the seriousness of the damage they can do to your kidneys, heart, etc. A medication that causes blood clots and strokes, sometimes resulting in death, is taken less seriously than accutane...how does that make sense? 

For many people who take accutane, acne is almost completely or totally eradicated and derms lose business as a result. Of course they'll go through the rigamarole of handing out expensive topicals, washes and antibiotics before they give in and let you take accutane. They want to make money, like any other aesthetic or cosmetological doctor. I've become very disillusioned and bitter about the system because this is exactly what happened to me, and as a result of listening to doctors urging me to avoid accutane as a last resort, I ended up with scarring and more emotional trauma to deal with. 


Hey CloudyDreamer,

Thanks a lot for commenting. I completely agree with you. Our entire system here in the west is mainly based around medications that don't really treat the root cause, and even if they do, its all a money grab anyways. They still end up doing more harm than good IMO though. Eastern medicine (Chinese, aryreuvedic) has been around for thousands of years, naturally based, yet western medicine runs a blind eye to it and chooses to look past the fact that the mind has a huge influence on whats happening in the body.

I'm guessing you went on accutane? I am on my first week. I have scarring from the damage acne has done over 9 years time. It's so sad, hence why I am SO at my wits end. I just finished my first week but do not think I will continue, solely for the fact that I am having digestive issues on it which is nothing to gamble with.

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1 hour ago, smiles23 said:

Hey CloudyDreamer,

Thanks a lot for commenting. I completely agree with you. Our entire system here in the west is mainly based around medications that don't really treat the root cause, and even if they do, its all a money grab anyways. They still end up doing more harm than good IMO though. Eastern medicine (Chinese, aryreuvedic) has been around for thousands of years, naturally based, yet western medicine runs a blind eye to it and chooses to look past the fact that the mind has a huge influence on whats happening in the body.

I'm guessing you went on accutane? I am on my first week. I have scarring from the damage acne has done over 9 years time. It's so sad, hence why I am SO at my wits end. I just finished my first week but do not think I will continue, solely for the fact that I am having digestive issues on it which is nothing to gamble with.

Sure thing. I'm going to see a TCM practitioner and ND as soon as I can afford it again. I have Hashi's and I believe the chronic inflammation that's gone untreated by our crappy medical system has caused inflammatory/adrenal PCOS, which has led to the acne. I get how you're feeling, since I have some surface scarring and PIE from just 5 months of acne...I'm sure years of this has taken an immense toll on your psyche. That's why I'm a bit curious as to why you're deciding to quit accutane so early on. What dosage are you on, and have you already experienced some less than pleasant side effects? If it helps at all, these SE's can disappear or minimize themselves over time. Making sure you in take tumeric, fiber, bitters and herbs for digestion can mitigate digestive-related SE's caused by any type of medication. I would say don't jump the gun...stick to a low dose [20] and see what happens. It sounds like the acne is ruining your life, and I doubt the accutane will cause a worsened digestive system for you. As I mentioned in my original post, so many of the SE's of this drug are overblown. There has never even been a single study proving a conclusive cause/effect link between accutane and stomach issues. 
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I agree, every drug will have its side effects. If i can find something natural though, I truly believe its the healthiest way. I think the gassiness was actually due to an almond milk allergy I just found out about (how funny, I thought I was doing myself a favour by cutting out milk!) but I notice hair loss. Not sure if it can start that fast (first 2 weeks of accutane) but I decided to stop the medication for now and keep trying natural stuff. I think I'm too much of a hypochondriac to take accutane at the moment. Every day I was constantly over analyzing my body's reactions. No doubt it works well for some, and i think people are lucky if they can get away scott free without any damage. I avant completely overwritten it yet, cause like you said scarring lasts forever and constant acne plus longterm scarring - aint fair! I think what bothers me most is lots of ppl say their acne comes back a year later or less after the tane... id hate to risk serious effects when theres not even a guarantee to be clear for a few years! thanks for the tips on the bitter and agreed on turmeric, will def take those if I decide to continue. Im going to post shortly about something Ive discovered (natural) for PCOS and hormonal issues... check it out it sounds super promising. It's called estroblock or something

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22 hours ago, smiles23 said:

I agree, every drug will have its side effects. If i can find something natural though, I truly believe its the healthiest way. I think the gassiness was actually due to an almond milk allergy I just found out about (how funny, I thought I was doing myself a favour by cutting out milk!) but I notice hair loss. Not sure if it can start that fast (first 2 weeks of accutane) but I decided to stop the medication for now and keep trying natural stuff. I think I'm too much of a hypochondriac to take accutane at the moment. Every day I was constantly over analyzing my body's reactions. No doubt it works well for some, and i think people are lucky if they can get away scott free without any damage. I avant completely overwritten it yet, cause like you said scarring lasts forever and constant acne plus longterm scarring - aint fair! I think what bothers me most is lots of ppl say their acne comes back a year later or less after the tane... id hate to risk serious effects when theres not even a guarantee to be clear for a few years! thanks for the tips on the bitter and agreed on turmeric, will def take those if I decide to continue. Im going to post shortly about something Ive discovered (natural) for PCOS and hormonal issues... check it out it sounds super promising. It's called estroblock or something


Allergies can definitely cause stomach issues - I had the same problem with wheat and gluten. I also get that way but from regular milk. I agree, taking a holistic approach is also important - I'm going to see a PCOS specialist soon so I can determine exactly what herbs, teas and foods I need to be eating for my thyroid and insulin resistance. Have you been diagnosed with PCOS? 

No problem. :) There are lots of herbs for PCOS and hormonal acne to try as well, like Licorice, Peony, red clover, black cohosh, etc. My DHEA-S was really high [like sky high lol] and Licorice+Peony brought it down to a clinically normal range. Still working on my free T, though - it's elevated. I'm on Metformin for insulin resistance and it's already helping with other symptoms of androgen dominance, like hair growth, so I think it will keep my skin better as well, even when I stop accutane. Most PCOS'ers have some degree of IR, even if they're skinny, and that's me.

Estroblock and DIM and Myomin and all the other estrogen metabolizers work well in theory if you're estrogen dominant. I am, so I'm hoping to try it soon and see how any of those work. But if you don't have excess estrogen, there's no reason to be taking them, and it might make your androgen dominance worse. (Seems PCOS'ers fall into two camps: those with estrogen dominance and elevated androgens, and those with lower than normal estrogen and very high testosterone.) I'd definitely get a blood test on cycle day 3 of estradiol, progesterone, MTFHR, vitamin D, ACTH, cortisol, Lh:FSH:, DHEA-S, DHT, free t, total t and a full thyroid panel to see if Estroblock would work and what else is going on.  Edited by cloudydreamer
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On 3/22/2017 at 9:11 AM, cloudydreamer said:

Allergies can definitely cause stomach issues - I had the same problem with wheat and gluten. I also get that way but from regular milk. I agree, taking a holistic approach is also important - I'm going to see a PCOS specialist soon so I can determine exactly what herbs, teas and foods I need to be eating for my thyroid and insulin resistance. Have you been diagnosed with PCOS? 

No problem. :) There are lots of herbs for PCOS and hormonal acne to try as well, like Licorice, Peony, red clover, black cohosh, etc. My DHEA-S was really high [like sky high lol] and Licorice+Peony brought it down to a clinically normal range. Still working on my free T, though - it's elevated. I'm on Metformin for insulin resistance and it's already helping with other symptoms of androgen dominance, like hair growth, so I think it will keep my skin better as well, even when I stop accutane. Most PCOS'ers have some degree of IR, even if they're skinny, and that's me.

Estroblock and DIM and Myomin and all the other estrogen metabolizers work well in theory if you're estrogen dominant. I am, so I'm hoping to try it soon and see how any of those work. But if you don't have excess estrogen, there's no reason to be taking them, and it might make your androgen dominance worse. (Seems PCOS'ers fall into two camps: those with estrogen dominance and elevated androgens, and those with lower than normal estrogen and very high testosterone.) I'd definitely get a blood test on cycle day 3 of estradiol, progesterone, MTFHR, vitamin D, ACTH, cortisol, Lh:FSH:, DHEA-S, DHT, free t, total t and a full thyroid panel to see if Estroblock would work and what else is going on. 


That is so interesting thanks so much for all the info- you sound like you know your stuff in this area its awesome!! Yes I absolutely believe I have PCOS now because I have a lot of symptoms of it, but the doctor has never diagnosed me. Do you know if PCOS is linked with thyroid issues? they run in my family but my thyroid panel comes up as normal (I've had blood checks for this as well as hormones several times, always normal). Im really skeptical though cause I have always been underweight for my age (doc is quick to dismiss thyroid issues because of this due to thyroids linked more often with overweight), I have horrible circulation... I am always cold, all the time, my whole life its been an issue. This has got me super intrigued. Yes i know what you mean, I was wary of taking estroblock cause the only weird thing that came up hormone wise was low progesterone, but this to me indicates some sort of estro/andro dominance happening. I would not be surprised if androgens are out of whack cause as I mentioned i really have some textbook PCOS symptoms popping up. I know i shouldn't self diagnose but apparently the blood test is actually super inaccurate at detecting hormonal issues in people. Also, the company mentions too that in our environment, almost everyone is getting at least a little estro dominant with the added estrogens in foods and other areas of the enviro... so crazy... human race is extinction itself slowly but surely without realizing the damage we are doing :/ thanks for mention the two types of PCOS... never knew. I ordered DHT blocker with the estrosmart which essentially when taken together, is a natural way to kick the high estros and andros in the butt :P lol. How is your accutane going?? and yeah, i mean i def recommend continuing with some holisitic research, the acne has to be a symptom of something going on!! frustrating not to know... PCOS sure sounds about right though!

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